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Re: LNB water drops fade!

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Kind of you to offer David. I find if I give it a good "blow" it will clear
much of it and mother nature does the rest. After a good blow it takes me
longer to recover than the LNB !!!!!!

I am not sure how you would spray your LNB at the top of your house --- a
long ladder needed ?

By the way David further to my mail a couple of days ago, it looks like my
computer failure is down to my graphics card packing up.

Regards
Ian.
===============================================

Ian,

I think that where the dish was at the time it might just have been reachable, at least for a spray adding some extra length to my arm. We also talked about putting the can on a long pole with a string to operate, but I don't think it ever came to that. I don't know how long the spray would be expected to last - would a yearly spray be enough? Same time of year as the 'flu jab?

Oh, that's better news about the computer. I do tend to keep cards from old computers so there's an odd graphics card floating around - although the VESA bus cards I did throw away. What use for Technisat SkyStar cards now? Even PCI ones?

Cheers,
David
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Re: LNB water drops fade!

Ian Deans
 

-----Original Message-----
From: 'David J Taylor' gm8arv@yahoo.co.uk [MSG-1]
Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2015 11:52 AM
To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] LNB water drops fade!

John,
I have seen the same problem with a new LNB ( SMART Titanium ) that I got
with my 1 metre dish about 3 months ago. I haven't seen such as drastic
drop as yours but I have been down about 9.5 in clear conditions when I
would expect about 11.4/5 --- the best I can get about 7 miles north of
Dundee. I suspect as the LNB "weathers" it will become less prone to
water droplets. My 8 year old LNB on my previous dish did not suffer from
this problem.

Douglas suggested to me a can of compressed air to avoid losses when wiping.
A pound or two from Amazon and probably �5 delivery !!!!

Regards
Ian.
===================================

Ian,

Arne suggested some TF2 spray when I had snow problems. I bought two 450 ml
cans, and both are virtually unused. Maybe it would do the job? You're
welcome to one should you wish.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=tf2+spray&tag=googhydr-21&index=aps&hvadid=34250231636&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9074640667838640986&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_44unfra75u_b

David
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Kind of you to offer David. I find if I give it a good "blow" it will clear much of it and mother nature does the rest. After a good blow it takes me longer to recover than the LNB !!!!!!

I am not sure how you would spray your LNB at the top of your house --- a long ladder needed ?

By the way David further to my mail a couple of days ago, it looks like my computer failure is down to my graphics card packing up.

Regards
Ian.


Re: LNB water drops fade!

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

John,
I have seen the same problem with a new LNB ( SMART Titanium ) that I got
with my 1 metre dish about 3 months ago. I haven't seen such as drastic
drop as yours but I have been down about 9.5 in clear conditions when I
would expect about 11.4/5 --- the best I can get about 7 miles north of
Dundee. I suspect as the LNB "weathers" it will become less prone to
water droplets. My 8 year old LNB on my previous dish did not suffer from
this problem.

Douglas suggested to me a can of compressed air to avoid losses when wiping.
A pound or two from Amazon and probably �5 delivery !!!!

Regards
Ian.
===================================

Ian,

Arne suggested some TF2 spray when I had snow problems. I bought two 450 ml cans, and both are virtually unused. Maybe it would do the job? You're welcome to one should you wish.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=tf2+spray&tag=googhydr-21&index=aps&hvadid=34250231636&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9074640667838640986&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_44unfra75u_b

David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk


Re: LNB water drops fade!

Ian Deans
 

John,
I have seen the same problem with a new LNB ( SMART Titanium ) that I got with my 1 metre dish about 3 months ago. I haven't seen such as drastic drop as yours but I have been down about 9.5 in clear conditions when I would expect about 11.4/5 --- the best I can get about 7 miles north of Dundee. I suspect as the LNB "weathers" it will become less prone to water droplets. My 8 year old LNB on my previous dish did not suffer from this problem.

Douglas suggested to me a can of compressed air to avoid losses when wiping. A pound or two from Amazon and probably �5 delivery !!!!

Regards
Ian.

-----Original Message-----
From: geojohnt@aol.com [MSG-1]
Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2015 11:21 AM
To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MSG-1] LNB water drops fade!

All,

We've had on and off rain - not heavy, here in west London this morning
with dark cloudy skies and I've watched my Es/No value slowly falling to
ridiculous levels with no rain falling.

With a 1 m dish my clear sky Es is normally 13.2 dB but the level has
recently dropped (with no rain falling) to 8.3 dB.
This is crazy!

Looking at the front of the LNB I noticed lots of large drops of rain had
accumulated - on this dish the LNB appears to be far more 'pointing upwards'
than on my old 85 cm dish.
Gently wiping away the water drops with kitchen towel immediately restored
my Es to 12.6 dB - which is what I would expect from dark rain clouds but
no rain falling.

So, my LNB obviously requires an umbrella.

Regards,
John Tellick.


Re: LNB water drops fade!

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

All,
[]
So, my LNB obviously requires an umbrella.

Regards,
John Tellick.
========================================

John, something like:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Protection-LNB-snow-blocking-Regen-rain-umbrella-for-dish-SAT-fur-den-spiegel-/261210664063

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk


LNB water drops fade!

geojohnt@...
 

All,

We've had on and off rain - not heavy, here in west London this morning
with dark cloudy skies and I've watched my Es/No value slowly falling to
ridiculous levels with no rain falling.

With a 1 m dish my clear sky Es is normally 13.2 dB but the level has
recently dropped (with no rain falling) to 8.3 dB.
This is crazy!

Looking at the front of the LNB I noticed lots of large drops of rain had
accumulated - on this dish the LNB appears to be far more 'pointing upwards'
than on my old 85 cm dish.
Gently wiping away the water drops with kitchen towel immediately restored
my Es to 12.6 dB - which is what I would expect from dark rain clouds but
no rain falling.

So, my LNB obviously requires an umbrella.

Regards,
John Tellick.


R: Ayecka SR1: Where can I get it?

Vincenzo Mone
 

Nello Nikos.GEO SHOP.http://www.geo-web.org.uk/shop.phpGo here and down the page you find it.Enzo


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Happy new year!!





I encounter a problem. I got a TBS 6925/6983 PCI card, but when I plug it in the motherboard the card maybe was burned. So now I am in the start point searching for another solution. I am very close to buy the Ayecha SR1, as I think a LAN device is better and more stable than a PCI or USB card.





I really appreciate it if somebody of you could suggest me an on-line shop to buy it as soon as possible because, as you know Eumetsat changed the date from 5th January to 31th December and now I continuously loose data.





Best regards,

Nikos Mazarakis


























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Re: Ayecka SR1: Where can I get it?

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Ayecka SR1: Where can I get it?

Nikos Mazarakis
 

Happy new year!!


I encounter a problem. I got a TBS 6925/6983 PCI card, but when I plug it in the motherboard the card maybe was burned. So now I am in the start point searching for another solution. I am very close to buy the Ayecha SR1, as I think a LAN device is better and more stable than a PCI or USB card.


I really appreciate it if somebody of you could suggest me an on-line shop to buy it as soon as possible because, as you know Eumetsat changed the date from 5th January to 31th December and now I continuously loose data.


Best regards,
Nikos Mazarakis


Re: TBS 5925: IP tools

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Hi,

what is now better for the TBS 5925 box: BDADataEx or TBS_IP_TOOL_V3.0.4.5 ?

Thanks in advance,
Werner.
===================================

Werner,

In my Windows-7 installation, the TBS software would crash repeatedly after running for periods of 3 minutes to 20 hours, and others have found the same issue. TBS have not been able to resolve the problem.

The BDADataEx program is third-party software, but it seems to work reliably and offers more monitoring facilities than the TBS software.

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk


TBS 5925: IP tools

wguenzl@...
 

Hi,

what is now better for the TBS 5925 box: BDADataEx or TBS_IP_TOOL_V3.0.4.5 ?

Thanks in advance,
Werner.


Re: DVB-S2 finals

Chris Charles
 

Hi John


Dish size is 950mm and I have slewed the dish but not altered the tilt. I found the skew angle on the LNB made a difference but 'focus' in and out had little or no effect.


Have just changed the Link Margin thresholds on the SR1 as per Arne van Belles notes but the signal and power figs remain the same for now. Did notice that yesterday with blue skies the signal was a steady 12.0 but today with cloud it is 11.7-11.9


If I can attempt to be of any further help, (but no expert bear in mind !) please come back


best regards - chris


Re: SR1, no lock, margins?

Ulrich G. Kliegis
 

Von: "'Ulrich G. Kliegis' Ulrich.Kliegis@kliegis.de [MSG-1]"
<MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Datum: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 09:33:29 +0100


Thanks to all you people who made this possible, in the fore-
and background, including the mates who provide the essential
background to make this hobby feasible.
Sorry for my imperfect english: This should read "spouses and mates" - and
whoever else matches that support group.

Now,

cheers,
U.


End of EUMETCast DVB-S

geojohnt@...
 

All,

Well it seems to have happened.
I've been monitoring the 9 E service over the last few days (only MDM and
AVHRR mangers running) and HRIT data appears to have stopped halfway through
the 10:15 cycle.

Now, at 10:55 I still have a pink T and the transponder is still on at
normal strength.
So that seems to be it?

If you haven't moved your dish yet to 10 E, I would suggest leaving it
where it is - for now - as, unless you are using a 1.8 M dish or larger, you
can received 10 E DVB-S2 EUMETCast [albeit at a lower level] whilst your
dish is still pointing at 9 E.
Having then got your new receiver (whatever it is) working and receiving
data on the 10 E DVB-S2 signal, you can nudge your dish over slightly to the
east and then tweak it and the LNB for maximum signal.

Best wishes for 2015.

Regards,
John Tellick.


Re: SR1, no lock, margins?

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Hello again, Arne,

just tried to run that update tool, but it says it demands .net 4.*. Working on an XP
machine there, the flag pole ends at the 3.5 mark.

Is it necessary to get a WIN7-PC closer to the receiver to get this done or is there a
workaround?

TIA,
cheers,
U.
==================================

Interesting, Ulrich. According to the EUMETSAT guide only .NET 3.5 is required, although it uses the term ".NET 3.5+". However, here are the instructions for installing 4.0 on XP from a Microsoft blog:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/p/dotnet4xp.aspx

.NET 4.5 is what is not supported, though, on XP.

Glad to hear you are enjoying yourself!

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk


Re: SR1, no lock, margins?

Ulrich G. Kliegis
 

An: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Von: "a.van.belle@hccnet.nl [MSG-1]"
<MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Datum: 30 Dec 2014 16:12:37 -0800
Betreff: Re: [MSG-1] SR1, no lock, margins?
Antwort an: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>

About thresholds, please read David's site
Hello, Arne,

thanks for that pointer. It confirms: Nearly everything is written down somewhere
already, but sometimes something else blocks the view to the obvious.

And: Entering the parameters manually helps me intrinsically to learn more about
the (literal) black box in front of me. I mentioned to David already the nostalgic
feelings when I fine-tuned my first completely homebuilt Meteosat-receiver (also
with that little help from some friends, two of them are also members of this list,
hello Klaus, hello Per :) !
At least the nightly trip to the dish out in the rainy dark resembled the old times -
sheesh, is it already 30 years ago?

Here is my latest SR1 status:


===============================================================
=================
SR1c Serial No. 111338 30AAC Run Time: 0:02:36
Software Version 1.05b250 Hardware Version 2.10 Firmware Version 2.02b922

RX1: Active, Locked
EUMETCast DVB-S2 1513.000 MHz, DVB-S2 16APSK 2/3, 32.994 Msps, ACM,
10.4 dB


===============================================================
=================

A very happy and successful and healthy new year to everybody!

And again: Thanks to all you people who made this possible, in the fore- and
background, including the mates who provide the essential background to make
this hobby feasible. And of course also to all the friendly people at Eumetsat who
enable us to do all that! Let's take it from here!

Cheers,
U.


Re: SR1, no lock, margins?

a_van_belle
 

Good news Ulrich,

Yes you can always set the required parameters for DVB-S2 manually. All info is on the Eumetsat site.

dotnet 4.0 should be possible on XP according to this link:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/p/dotnet4xp.aspx http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/p/dotnet4xp.aspx

About thresholds, please read David's site
http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/dvb-s2/ http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/dvb-s2/

"Update - Ayecka threshold settings for best performance: With the recent solar outage in October 2014 there was a chance to evaluate the best settings for link margin to get the best from this receiver. If the receiver is set for Basic Service reception alone, EUMETSAT are recommending that the link margin be set to Lower: -0.6 dB, upper -0.3 dB, i.e. a 0.3 dB difference. These allow the maximum amount of data through based on EUMETSAT's own measurements. As there may be some variation in receiver performance, and as I like to allow a little margin, I have now set my receivers to -0.5/-0.3 dB. Use the System Menu (option 4), RX Link Margin Thresholds (option G) to check or set these items.
If you are using the High Volume Service as well, EUMETSAT currently recommend the thresholds be set to +0.5/+0.6 dB, i.e. a 0.1 dB difference, although this will also apply to the Basic Service as well thus causing it to stop at a higher margin than is optimum. Selection of different thresholds for the two service types is planned a future release of the SR1 software. "


Greetings,
Arne van Belle


Re: SR1, no lock, margins?

Ulrich G. Kliegis
 

An: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Priorität: normal
Von: "'Ulrich G. Kliegis' Ulrich.Kliegis@kliegis.de [MSG-1]"
<MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Datum: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 22:53:10 +0100
Betreff: Re: [MSG-1] SR1, no lock, margins?
Antwort an: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>

Is it necessary to get a WIN7-PC closer to the receiver to get this
done or is there a workaround?
Yabbadabbabbadeebibbbeeedeeebbeeedooooo!

Just entered the few parameters manually according to the Eumetsat manual, and
whooosh - zero errors over some minutes - without adjusting the LNB yet correctly.
That will be done next.

Cheering cheers,

U.


Re: SR1, no lock, margins?

Ulrich G. Kliegis
 

Von: "a.van.belle@hccnet.nl [MSG-1]"
<MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Datum: 30 Dec 2014 13:26:09 -0800

http://www.geo-web.org.uk/SR1_Support_files/SR1CFG_DVBS2_ACTIVE_only-u
pdat es-DVBS2-radio-cfg_allversions.zip This config file does not
change any of your network settings that you amy ahev adapted to your
situation.
Hello again, Arne,

just tried to run that update tool, but it says it demands .net 4.*. Working on an XP
machine there, the flag pole ends at the 3.5 mark.

Is it necessary to get a WIN7-PC closer to the receiver to get this done or is there a
workaround?

TIA,
cheers,
U.


Re: SR1, no lock, margins?

Ulrich G. Kliegis
 

An: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Von: "a.van.belle@hccnet.nl [MSG-1]"
<MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Datum: 30 Dec 2014 13:26:09 -0800
Betreff: Re: [MSG-1] SR1, no lock, margins?
Antwort an: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>

Good luck,
Arne,

thanks for this bright spot cast on the obvious! I relied totally on the term
"preconfigured", but don't have to blame anybody. At least, for DVB-S. the box
came really optimally preconfigured.

I'll let you know shortly about the outcome.

Cheers, totsien, bedankt!

U.

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