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Re: Signal Loss

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Can anyone help please? I lost my MSG reception totally. I need to know 1) Should the e-Token light be permanently on? 2) Would it stop the signal if faulty? When I put my sat meter on the lnb there were no power lights on, I'm wondering if it's the EKU or card that has gone down. Many Thanks Rob.
========================

Sorry to hear of your problems, Rob.

1 - The eToken should normally be lit, with intermittent dark flashes (several times a minute).

2 - Not necessarily, but check the TelliCast log files.

3 - If the satellite meter shows nothing, it sounds more like the receiver. Check for power to the USB box, if that's what you have.

Cheers,
David
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Re: Signal Loss

David Pykett
 

 

 

Hi Rob

 

I can’t answer some of the questions

 

If you right click the Setup4Pc  icon  the status should be green, is it showing Eurobird 9

 

To check the eToken  go into ‘All Programs> eToken> eToken properties’ it should look obvious if its failed I don’t think there will be all the info in the centre box.

 

Hopefully I have all my info correct that I am giving you, I don’t think a faulty eToken will stop you get a green status on Setup4PC but if the satellite dish has moved, the LNB has failed or the card has failed it would be red.

 

Dave

 

 

 

 

Can anyone help please? I lost my MSG reception totally. I need to know 1) Should the e-Token light be permanently on? 2) Would it stop the signal if faulty? When I put my sat meter on the lnb there were no power lights on, I'm wondering if it's the EKU or card that has gone down. Many Thanks Rob.


Signal Loss

Robert Denton
 

Can anyone help please? I lost my MSG reception totally. I need to know 1) Should the e-Token light be permanently on? 2) Would it stop the signal if faulty? When I put my sat meter on the lnb there were no power lights on, I'm wondering if it's the EKU or card that has gone down. Many Thanks Rob.


Re: Windows 8.1 upgrades

Douglas Deans
 

Maybe I beat the American rush? My updates were started at 08:15 and 09:15
UK time, and downloaded reasonably quickly (2 x ~3 GB). Spikes on the
router throughput graph:

http://www.satsignal.eu/mrtg/performance_cable-modem.php

Both 32-bit and 64-bit PCs were updated from 8.0 to 8.1 over the Internet.
I would have preferred an upgrade DVD, to be honest. The peculiar laptop I
have would not update from 8.0 to 8.1 (nor from 7 to 7 SP1), so that was a
fresh install with the 8.1 RTM DVD.

Cheers,
David
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Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
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=============================================================================

Presumably as it is not coming via auto windows updates but only through
Windows app store, it is in that sense optional and Windows 8 will continue
to be supported.
Perhaps explains why Microsoft are getting hot under the collar if it is
referred to as an update rather than an upgrade.

I always prefer auto updates where the computer is properly checked and the
appropriate update relevant to your installation is done.
Think I will leave this well alone as Windows 8 works extremely well.

Regards,
Douglas.


Re: Windows 8.1 upgrades

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

From: Ian Deans

I have been running Windows 8.1 preview for some time now on my SSD system
and as a dedicated desktop user I rather like it. However the preview
version will "die" in January 2014 so I need to consider options.

The update to 8.1 can only be actioned through Windows Store and apparently
that is having serious problems at the moment, so you must have been lucky
David to get updated. I have been unable to get into Windows Store all day
( like many people ) with a continual server error.
I do want to update my back-up HD from Windows 8/64 but I shall wait a few
weeks until the rush is over.

Many thanks for your report.

Regards
Ian.
=============================

Maybe I beat the American rush? My updates were started at 08:15 and 09:15 UK time, and downloaded reasonably quickly (2 x ~3 GB). Spikes on the router throughput graph:

http://www.satsignal.eu/mrtg/performance_cable-modem.php

Both 32-bit and 64-bit PCs were updated from 8.0 to 8.1 over the Internet. I would have preferred an upgrade DVD, to be honest. The peculiar laptop I have would not update from 8.0 to 8.1 (nor from 7 to 7 SP1), so that was a fresh install with the 8.1 RTM DVD.

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk


Re: Windows 8.1 upgrades

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

From: Nigel Heasman

Gosh - you're a glutton for punishment, David!
Well done,
regards
Nigel
===============================

You could well be right, Nigel! I've spent most of the afternoon trying to get the monitoring I have with MRTG working. On the 64-bit PC, the network number have changed, so edits to the MRTG configuration file. Then the memory and CPU use wasn't working on the upgraded PCs, but was fine on the 8.1 fresh install PC. Eventually found that removing SNMP Informant and re-installing it fixed that, and equally a full remove and re-install of SpeedFan and it's SNMP add-on fixed the temperature and disk usage recording. Finally, a reboot of my cable modem was required to restore level and SNR recording - somehow the cable modem was refusing to talk to the rest of the world through its Web interface.

Let's hope the 8.2 update is easier!

Cheers,
David
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Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk


Re: Windows 8.1 upgrades

Ian Deans
 

-----Original Message-----
From: David J Taylor
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 12:22 PM
To: Plane Plotter ; MSG-1@yahoogroups.com ; shipplotter@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MSG-1] Windows 8.1 upgrades

Folks,

I've just upgraded a couple of PCs to Windows 8.1 - one is 32-bit and the
other 64-bit. So as to keep all the information in one place, here is a
combined report.

Plane Plotter:
The download-only 32-bit PC was fine, but the 64-bit PC required obtaining
a new licence code and authentication code. The 64-bit talks to a Raspberry
Pi over TCP/IP.

Ship Plotter:
The 32-bit is download only. The 64-bit up & download system required
re-installation of the MarineGadgets Radar receiver drivers in the special
"Install unsigned drivers" reboot mode. Once rebooted, using the Device
Manager, a simple update drivers, with searching my own PC was enough (I
keep all mu installs in a C:\Install\ tree.

DVB World:
64-bit system only, required driver reinstallation in the "Install
unsigned drivers" reboot mode.

DataRAM RAMdisk and TelliCast:
Would not start, stopping TelliCast working, so I installed the latest
version but it would not start. It suggested a reboot may be required, and
it started OK after a reboot. Noted that the "Start automatically with
Windows" box was not checked, so checked it after the successful reboot.

Phew! What a morning!

Hope that's of some use to someone.

Cheers,
David
===================================================================

I have been running Windows 8.1 preview for some time now on my SSD system and as a dedicated desktop user I rather like it. However the preview version will "die" in January 2014 so I need to consider options.

The update to 8.1 can only be actioned through Windows Store and apparently that is having serious problems at the moment, so you must have been lucky David to get updated. I have been unable to get into Windows Store all day ( like many people ) with a continual server error.
I do want to update my back-up HD from Windows 8/64 but I shall wait a few weeks until the rush is over.

Many thanks for your report.

Regards
Ian.


Re: Windows 8.1 upgrades

nigel
 

On 18/10/13 14:22, David J Taylor wrote:
Folks,

I've just upgraded a couple of PCs to Windows 8.1 - one is 32-bit and the
other 64-bit. So as to keep all the information in one place, here is a
combined report.

Plane Plotter:
The download-only 32-bit PC was fine, but the 64-bit PC required obtaining
a new licence code and authentication code. The 64-bit talks to a Raspberry
Pi over TCP/IP.

Ship Plotter:
The 32-bit is download only. The 64-bit up & download system required
re-installation of the MarineGadgets Radar receiver drivers in the special
"Install unsigned drivers" reboot mode. Once rebooted, using the Device
Manager, a simple update drivers, with searching my own PC was enough (I
keep all mu installs in a C:\Install\ tree.

DVB World:
64-bit system only, required driver reinstallation in the "Install
unsigned drivers" reboot mode.

DataRAM RAMdisk and TelliCast:
Would not start, stopping TelliCast working, so I installed the latest
version but it would not start. It suggested a reboot may be required, and
it started OK after a reboot. Noted that the "Start automatically with
Windows" box was not checked, so checked it after the successful reboot.

Phew! What a morning!

Hope that's of some use to someone.

Cheers,
David
Gosh - you're a glutton for punishment, David!
Well done,
regards
Nigel


Windows 8.1 upgrades

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Folks,

I've just upgraded a couple of PCs to Windows 8.1 - one is 32-bit and the other 64-bit. So as to keep all the information in one place, here is a combined report.

Plane Plotter:
The download-only 32-bit PC was fine, but the 64-bit PC required obtaining a new licence code and authentication code. The 64-bit talks to a Raspberry Pi over TCP/IP.

Ship Plotter:
The 32-bit is download only. The 64-bit up & download system required re-installation of the MarineGadgets Radar receiver drivers in the special "Install unsigned drivers" reboot mode. Once rebooted, using the Device Manager, a simple update drivers, with searching my own PC was enough (I keep all mu installs in a C:\Install\ tree.

DVB World:
64-bit system only, required driver reinstallation in the "Install unsigned drivers" reboot mode.

DataRAM RAMdisk and TelliCast:
Would not start, stopping TelliCast working, so I installed the latest version but it would not start. It suggested a reboot may be required, and it started OK after a reboot. Noted that the "Start automatically with Windows" box was not checked, so checked it after the successful reboot.

Phew! What a morning!

Hope that's of some use to someone.

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk


Re: Move to DVB-S2

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Alan,

I wasn't thinking of the changeover just from the viewpoint of
hobbyists, who I agree should not count for much in these sorts of
considerations. My comment was intended to be inclusive of all who rely
on Eumetcast. I have had some experience of satellite communications,
and when I see a major change of the sort proposed with so much of the
important technical questions unanswered only months before the start of
the service, pessimism is the only emotion possible! For example, no
receiver front-end has been identified as being suitable for the
service. When it is identified, tested, and approved, software will have
to be written and also tested, etc. under representative conditions.
This all takes time if it is to be done properly. I'm just glad I'm not
the Program Manager!

Best regards - Alan S
====================================

Alan,

I think you are being overly pessimistic, at least, I hope you are! EUMETSAT will only change once the new service can completely replace the existing one. They are fully aware of the importance of the EUMETCast data stream.

EUMETSAT have already identified three receivers which will work with the new service, and the TelliCast software will continue (although I don't know if a new version is required). See their Web page. It /may/ be that the present USB 2.0 interface and driver software is a little limiting for the bandwidths required, and we will move to an Ethernet rather than a USB interface, but this is by no means certain as yet. This takes a lot of load off the "receiver" PC, and could make the two-PC system obsolete.

GEO hope to be involved in the testing of the new service, and there is a changeover period of several months between August and December next year. That's more that 12 months away.

Cheers,
David
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Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
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Re: Move to DVB-S2

Alan Sewards
 

Alan,

I wasn't thinking of the changeover just from the viewpoint of hobbyists, who I agree should not count for much in these sorts of considerations. My comment was intended to be inclusive of all who rely on Eumetcast. I have had some experience of satellite communications, and when I see a major change of the sort proposed with so much of the important technical questions unanswered only months before the start of the service, pessimism is the only emotion possible! For example, no receiver front-end has been identified as being suitable for the service. When it is identified, tested, and approved, software will have to be written and also tested, etc. under representative conditions. This all takes time if it is to be done properly. I'm just glad I'm not the Program Manager!

Best regards - Alan S

On 15/09/2013 6:16 PM, Alan Banks wrote:
On 15/09/2013 15:54, Alan Sewards wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I am building up a strong feeling that this forthcoming changeover is
> going to be an unmitigated shambles.
Hi Alan
That may be!
However, we look at it from the cash strapped hobbyist perspective.
EUMETSAT has to provide more and more info for the
professional/commercial sector. That at present we get such easy access
is our bonus. I'm sure we are down in the pecking order when it comes to
provision of information.
Here's hoping you are being pessimistic! :-/

Alan

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web site: http://asewards.free.fr


Re: New station

Yahoo Groups <robertbaleja@...>
 

David, 
Thanks for advice. My station working without missing packets. 
Robert

Wysłane z iPada

Dnia 20 wrz 2013 o godz. 20:35 "David J Taylor" <gm8arv@...> napisał(a):

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Yahoo Groups
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 5:45 PM
To: Yahoo Groups
Subject: [MSG-1] New station

Hallo
I have two PC :
Receiving PC configuration :
Motherbroad - Intel D 2500HN( Atom D2500) 1.86GHz
RAM DDR3 1066 MHz - 4GB
SkyStar 2
Hard disk - 500GB SATA 2
Soft
Windows XP SP 3
Tellicast soft
Key soft
Server 4PC all from Eumetcast CD
RAM disk - 300MB
In windows XP turn off all Vistula effect
Microsoft Security Essential - No scan folder T- System and RAM disk

Tellicast satistic:
Missed packed before FEC -209
FEC Recovered Packed - 4

Antenna Wavefrontier T90
LNB Golden interStar
S/N 12,5 dB

Robert
===================================

Robert,

The other thing to try is to cut down the amount of data you receive to the
minimum. Typically, the recv-channels.ini comes set up for all data, with a
wildcard [*] entry. Replace that with one entry for each channel you need -
start with the minimum and build up. Use sub-directories as appropriate.
For example, replace:

___________________________________________________
[*]
target_directory=received
___________________________________________________

with:

___________________________________________________
[EUMETSAT Data Channel 2]
target_directory=received\Data Channel 2

[EUMETSAT Data Channel 3]
target_directory=received\Data Channel 3
___________________________________________________

See:
http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/atovs/hints+tips.html

Cheers,
David
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Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...


Re: FY 2E data

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Hello,
I wonder if at present FY-2E sends images via the MSG D.M.
Are there some problems affecting this satellite ?
Thanks in advance and regards.
Roland

======================================================

My last image was the 07.00 this morning from FY-2E.
No reports of any problems.
Maybe a comm. issue with Eumetsat.

Regards,
Douglas.
========================================

Folks,

Please know that FY-2D and FY-2E are "best effort" services from EUMETSAT, not "guaranteed" services like the full-scan and rapid-scan services. You may find that if the xx00 data isn't available, xx30 data may be sent in its place.

Having said that, if FY-2 data is missing for more than a few hours, I'm sure that Ops at EUMETSAT would appreciate knowing about the problem. They might then need to contact China to clear the problem. As Douglas says, it's most likely issues at one end or other of the communications link rather than the satellite itself.

Cheers,
David
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Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk


Re: FY 2E data

Ian Deans
 

Further to my recent mail I have just noticed that since early morning all the CMA data from FY-2D and FY-2E has been sent and saved with 0 kb. ( ie no data included ).

Ian.


Re: FY 2E data

Ian Deans
 

Image data has stopped from both FY-2E and FY-2D since early this morning. However the Meteorology data from both these satellites is still being received ( saves under CMA ) and opens in CMADataViewer.

Hope that helps.
Ian.

-----Original Message-----
From: Roland Fechter
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:21 PM
To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MSG-1] FY 2E data

Hello,
I wonder if at present FY-2E sends images via the MSG D.M.
Are there some problems affecting this satellite ?
Thanks in advance and regards.
Roland


Re: FY 2E data

Douglas Deans
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Roland Fechter Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:21 PM To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com Subject: [MSG-1] FY 2E data

Hello,
I wonder if at present FY-2E sends images via the MSG D.M.
Are there some problems affecting this satellite ?
Thanks in advance and regards.
Roland

======================================================

My last image was the 07.00 this morning from FY-2E.
No reports of any problems.
Maybe a comm. issue with Eumetsat.

Regards,
Douglas.


FY 2E data

Roland Fechter
 

Hello,
I wonder if at present FY-2E sends images via the MSG D.M.
Are there some problems affecting this satellite ?
Thanks in advance and regards.
Roland


Re: error

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

hello,
I have been running the current 26121088 version and get from time to time error processing messages. Could you advise what to do please ?
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Roland
==================================

Roland,

I assume you mean the MSG Data Manager version 2.6.12.1088.

As I am not seeing errors here, nor have other people reported similar errors, it sounds like something unique to your configuration which is corrupting data being seen by the MSG Data Manager.

Suggestions: if you are using two PCs, check the permissions on the network share and the shared directories. If you are using a single PC, check that you have the tmp_directory location correctly set in in recv.ini, and that your FSY files are correctly located on your RAMdisk.

Cheers,
David
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error

Roland Fechter
 

hello,
I have been running the current 26121088 version and get from time to time error processing messages. Could you advise what to do please ?
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Roland


Re: New station

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Yahoo Groups
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 5:45 PM
To: Yahoo Groups
Subject: [MSG-1] New station

Hallo
I have two PC :
Receiving PC configuration :
Motherbroad - Intel D 2500HN( Atom D2500) 1.86GHz
RAM DDR3 1066 MHz - 4GB
SkyStar 2
Hard disk - 500GB SATA 2
Soft
Windows XP SP 3
Tellicast soft
Key soft
Server 4PC all from Eumetcast CD
RAM disk - 300MB
In windows XP turn off all Vistula effect
Microsoft Security Essential - No scan folder T- System and RAM disk

Tellicast satistic:
Missed packed before FEC -209
FEC Recovered Packed - 4

Antenna Wavefrontier T90
LNB Golden interStar
S/N 12,5 dB

Robert
===================================

Robert,

The other thing to try is to cut down the amount of data you receive to the minimum. Typically, the recv-channels.ini comes set up for all data, with a wildcard [*] entry. Replace that with one entry for each channel you need - start with the minimum and build up. Use sub-directories as appropriate. For example, replace:

___________________________________________________
[*]
target_directory=received
___________________________________________________


with:

___________________________________________________
[EUMETSAT Data Channel 2]
target_directory=received&#92;Data Channel 2

[EUMETSAT Data Channel 3]
target_directory=received&#92;Data Channel 3
___________________________________________________


See:
http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/atovs/hints+tips.html

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk

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