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Re: FY 2E data

Ian Deans
 

Further to my recent mail I have just noticed that since early morning all the CMA data from FY-2D and FY-2E has been sent and saved with 0 kb. ( ie no data included ).

Ian.


Re: FY 2E data

Ian Deans
 

Image data has stopped from both FY-2E and FY-2D since early this morning. However the Meteorology data from both these satellites is still being received ( saves under CMA ) and opens in CMADataViewer.

Hope that helps.
Ian.

-----Original Message-----
From: Roland Fechter
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:21 PM
To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MSG-1] FY 2E data

Hello,
I wonder if at present FY-2E sends images via the MSG D.M.
Are there some problems affecting this satellite ?
Thanks in advance and regards.
Roland


Re: FY 2E data

Douglas Deans
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Roland Fechter Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:21 PM To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com Subject: [MSG-1] FY 2E data

Hello,
I wonder if at present FY-2E sends images via the MSG D.M.
Are there some problems affecting this satellite ?
Thanks in advance and regards.
Roland

======================================================

My last image was the 07.00 this morning from FY-2E.
No reports of any problems.
Maybe a comm. issue with Eumetsat.

Regards,
Douglas.


FY 2E data

Roland Fechter
 

Hello,
I wonder if at present FY-2E sends images via the MSG D.M.
Are there some problems affecting this satellite ?
Thanks in advance and regards.
Roland


Re: error

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

hello,
I have been running the current 26121088 version and get from time to time error processing messages. Could you advise what to do please ?
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Roland
==================================

Roland,

I assume you mean the MSG Data Manager version 2.6.12.1088.

As I am not seeing errors here, nor have other people reported similar errors, it sounds like something unique to your configuration which is corrupting data being seen by the MSG Data Manager.

Suggestions: if you are using two PCs, check the permissions on the network share and the shared directories. If you are using a single PC, check that you have the tmp_directory location correctly set in in recv.ini, and that your FSY files are correctly located on your RAMdisk.

Cheers,
David
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Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
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error

Roland Fechter
 

hello,
I have been running the current 26121088 version and get from time to time error processing messages. Could you advise what to do please ?
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Roland


Re: New station

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Yahoo Groups
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 5:45 PM
To: Yahoo Groups
Subject: [MSG-1] New station

Hallo
I have two PC :
Receiving PC configuration :
Motherbroad - Intel D 2500HN( Atom D2500) 1.86GHz
RAM DDR3 1066 MHz - 4GB
SkyStar 2
Hard disk - 500GB SATA 2
Soft
Windows XP SP 3
Tellicast soft
Key soft
Server 4PC all from Eumetcast CD
RAM disk - 300MB
In windows XP turn off all Vistula effect
Microsoft Security Essential - No scan folder T- System and RAM disk

Tellicast satistic:
Missed packed before FEC -209
FEC Recovered Packed - 4

Antenna Wavefrontier T90
LNB Golden interStar
S/N 12,5 dB

Robert
===================================

Robert,

The other thing to try is to cut down the amount of data you receive to the minimum. Typically, the recv-channels.ini comes set up for all data, with a wildcard [*] entry. Replace that with one entry for each channel you need - start with the minimum and build up. Use sub-directories as appropriate. For example, replace:

___________________________________________________
[*]
target_directory=received
___________________________________________________


with:

___________________________________________________
[EUMETSAT Data Channel 2]
target_directory=received\Data Channel 2

[EUMETSAT Data Channel 3]
target_directory=received\Data Channel 3
___________________________________________________


See:
http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/atovs/hints+tips.html

Cheers,
David
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Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk


New station

Yahoo Groups <robertbaleja@...>
 

Hallo
I have two PC :
Receiving PC configuration :
Motherbroad - Intel D 2500HN( Atom D2500) 1.86GHz
RAM DDR3 1066 MHz - 4GB
SkyStar 2
Hard disk - 500GB SATA 2
Soft
Windows XP SP 3
Tellicast soft
Key soft
Server 4PC all from Eumetcast CD
RAM disk - 300MB
In windows XP turn off all Vistula effect
Microsoft Security Essential - No scan folder T- System and RAM disk

Tellicast satistic:
Missed packed before FEC -209
FEC Recovered Packed - 4

Antenna Wavefrontier T90
LNB Golden interStar
S/N 12,5 dB

Robert

Wysłane z iPhone'a


Re: New stadion

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Hallo everybody.
I'm new eumetcast user from Poland. I have a question. How many lost segment is normal in 24 h? I have 2 or 3 lost receive session in one day.
Robert
Wysłane z iPhone'a
========================================

Robert,

Welcome to the group!

With a correctly set up system, no segments will be lost. Using a RAMdisk is the first step to ensuring minimum loss.

http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/Dexatek/RAMdisk.html

You may find, when looking at the TelliCast statistics, that there are some missed packets, but mostly there should be the same number of recovered packets as there are missed ones. Optimising a system for minimum loss can be a bit of an art! Using two PCs can make the problem easier to solve.

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk


New stadion

Yahoo <robertbaleja@...>
 

Hallo everybody.
I'm new eumetcast user from Poland. I have a question. How many lost segment is normal in 24 h? I have 2 or 3 lost receive session in one day.
Robert
Wysłane z iPhone'a


Rapid-scan reminder

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

A reminder that Europe Rapid-Scan has been handled by MSG-1 since 09:00 UTC this morning, and will again be handled by MSG-2 from 09:00 UTC on Thursday, Sep 19. There is no MPEF data in the MSG-1 stream.

For those using the MSG Data Manager, should you want continuous coverage without the need to switch satellites, simply set up a third instance of the program, direct it at the same locations as the MSG-2 RSS instance, tell it to work on MSG-1, and set all retention times to zero (the main full-scan MSG Data Manager will handle that).

Cheers,
David
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SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk


Re: Move to DVB-S2

geojohnt@...
 

In a message dated 16/09/2013 16:35:32 GMT Daylight Time, alan@... writes:
    I am building up a strong feeling that this forthcoming changeover is
going to be an unmitigated shambles. From a well-used, well-tested
commercial TV reception system we are moving to a new, complex system,
and one that will not have been well tested and of which few examples
are in the wild. 
If ever there is a time to think
of the indispensable engineer's motto (if it ain't broke, don't fix it),
it is now!
Alan,
 
As Alan Banks suggested we have had the good fortune of being able to access professional EUMETSAT data.
[For a long time and via cost effective domestic electronics.]
 
We should not forget that it could have been oh so different when MSG-1 was launched.
Having battled the UK Met Office (as secretary of an/other amateur group) for many months with the support of EUMETSAT I finally obtained an agreement from the Met Office for access by amateurs to direct dissemination MSG data. All we had been allowed was access to data via the Internet.
[This case was not unique to the UK Met Office, several other countries [EUMETSAT Council] had barred access to direct readout data by amateurs. I'm pleased to say they all eventually permitted access and we were granted 3 year reception licences] 
 
However, there were no viable receivers for MSG LRIT - never mind HRIT data.
Unless you had several thousand pounds in the bank and a large dish.
 
It was to our great advantage that MSG-1's power amplifiers failed and EUMETSAT had to find another means of data distribution - EUMETCast.
The rest is history as they say.
 
But DVB-S has really come to the end of its usefulness/capacity.
More and more data is added to the stream every year and we still have (hopefully) NPP imaging to be added to the stream.
And MTG is not far away requiring even more bandwidth.
Yes, things look a bit 'unclear' at the moment and I guess it's safe to say the receiver is going to cost more. 
 
EUMETSAT's job (really) is to provide data for professionals though they do appreciate there are a lot of amateur users.
With DVB-S2 there are two streams - the High Volume Service professional stream and a Basic Service similar to what we have now.
I don't think you can't mix DVB-S and DVB-S2 on one transponder and it would not be cost effective to rent two transponders.
 
At the moment it looks a little like 'watch this space?'
 
Regards,
John Tellick.
 
 
 
 
 
 


Re: Eumetsat

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

-----Original Message-----
From: roland francois
[]
I have well a reception, which is interrupted by moment, but I have no update of the images,
With the last modifications for MSG DATA MANAGER ( V2.6.8.1069) and RSS on which MSG ( 1.2.3.4 )
Is it necessary to settle ?
Another detail than I find strange, on MSG DATED MANAGER, HISTORIC menu, I have a heap of files

which scroll and which repeat of 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29 / 02/2012!!!!

And only some day lines, on the other hand for RSS there are only the day data …

The compartment: DAY DATUM IS MARKED,

Thank you

F5JPK
==================================

Roland,

The current MSG Data Manager is V2.6.12.1088, so I recommend that you update. It is a free update.

http://www.satsignal.eu/software/updates.html

To get e--mail notification of updates, please complete the form at the bottom of that page. I also recommend that you set a non-zero value for Auto-clean minutes, such as 1440 to remove files more than 1 day old from the &#92;received&#92; directory tree. You will find the setting on Setup, Options, File controls, RX disk space control. 0 means no automatic delete. 1440 means delete files more than 1440 minute old, every 1440 minutes.

Currently, full-scan is on MSG-3, and that is continuous. Rapid-scan (RSS) is normally on MSG-2, but will switch to MSG-1 for 48 hours at 0900 UTC tomorrow.

I am not clear what menu is producing the list of old files. If these are no longer wanted, I suggest you delete the files by hand. If the problem remains, please switch to the English language menu so that I can find the problem more easily.

Finally, problems with my software are best sent to the SatSignal Yahoo group:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SatSignal/

73,
David GM8ARV
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Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk


Re: Eumetsat

roland francois
 

Hello to all,

Thank you for your answers,
I verified the satellite dish, taking advantage of a beautiful sun in the noon, I used the software
On the site SAT.DROSSEL-SERVICES .DE to verify the alignment
Everything is OK
On the other hand I noticed that a tree (THUYA) grew faster than planned well that distant from the antenna

I shortened it of 2 meters
Now I have:
QUALITY OF the SIGNAL > vari from 50 to 65 % but by moment passes for a moment in the red
STRENGTH OF the SIGNAL > 100 %

T: Pink but by moment passes in the red
I think that I am again going to cut a part of the summit of the tree
I have well a reception, which is interrupted by moment, but I have no update of the images,
With the last modifications for MSG DATA MANAGER ( V2.6.8.1069) and RSS on which MSG ( 1.2.3.4 )
Is it necessary to settle ?
Another detail than I find strange, on MSG DATED MANAGER, HISTORIC menu, I have a heap of files

which scroll  and which repeat of 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29 / 02/2012!!!!

And only some day lines, on the other hand for RSS there are only the day data …

The compartment: DAY DATUM IS MARKED,

Thank you

F5JPK

 

De : MSG-1@... [mailto:MSG-1@...] De la part de David J Taylor
Envoyé : dimanche 15 septembre 2013 15:14
À : MSG-1@...
Objet : Re: [MSG-1] Eumetsat

 

 

Hello,

Since a few weeks I also have a problem of reception EUMETSAT
Without having modified the installation,

I have 1 meter satellite dish
I have a card PCI TECHNISAT

>>>> QUALITY OF the SIGNAL : 0 % (red)
>>>> STRENGTH OF the SIGNAL : 100 % (GREEN)
>>>> And obviously "T" yellow

Has anybody an explanation ?
Thank you

F5JPK
============================================

Roland,

Do your frequencies look like these?

http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/atovs/index.html#CheckingTheSignalLevel

The "NETWORK NAME" may be different - it changes from time to time according
to who owns it!
Then check you are pointing at the correct satellite - that
your dish hasn't moved. Do you have a spare LNB you can try? It does seem
strange to have good strength but no quality.

73,
David GM8ARV
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web:
http://www.satsignal.eu
Email:
david-taylor@...


Re: ANN: Software updates

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Hi David,

Have you made some changes in the set of LUTs available in this new
version of Animator (2,6,12)? I have found that my animations have
changed drastically for the times after I installed the new version, and
I have noticed that the funny ones show 'none' for the palette. I don't
recall what palettes I was using but have tried all those available with
no success.
Apart from this, the updates to MSGDM, MetopMgr and AVHRRMgr all seem
to have gone well. I had a little trouble with MSGDM through the update
being installed in folder MsgDataManager instead of the earlier folder
Msg Data Manager...

Best regards - Alan S
=======================================

Alan,

Thanks for reporting back.

On the MSG Animator, nothing related to palettes should have changed between 2.6.10 and 2.6.12. Of course, if you have added your own palettes they won't have been in the Zip file you downloaded, and if you copied the Zip contents into a fresh directory you would also need to copy any customised palettes from your previous working directory. The files in the upgrade are intended to be copied into a working directory, /if/ you have added to the originally installed files, and they will also form a complete, working set for a new user.

The MSG Data Manager install program should honour the directory you most recently installed to. The default path for a fresh install is:

C:&#92;Tools&#92;SatSignal&#92;MsgDataManager&#92;

I asked that follow-ups be in the SatSignal Yahoo group. Could I ask that you post further comments there, please?

Thanks,
David
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SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk


Re: Move to DVB-S2

Alan Banks <alan@...>
 

On 15/09/2013 15:54, Alan Sewards wrote:
Hi folks,

I am building up a strong feeling that this forthcoming changeover is
going to be an unmitigated shambles.
Hi Alan
That may be!
However, we look at it from the cash strapped hobbyist perspective. EUMETSAT has to provide more and more info for the professional/commercial sector. That at present we get such easy access is our bonus. I'm sure we are down in the pecking order when it comes to provision of information.
Here's hoping you are being pessimistic! :-/

Alan


Re: Move to DVB-S2

Alan Sewards
 

Hi folks,

I am building up a strong feeling that this forthcoming changeover is going to be an unmitigated shambles. From a well-used, well-tested commercial TV reception system we are moving to a new, complex system, and one that will not have been well tested and of which few examples are in the wild. I expect a lot of changes will have to be made to the (now well tested) Tellicast software, so it will be 'all change', added to which the dish will need to be recalibrated for a new satellite only one degree away from the current one. If ever there is a time to think of the indispensable engineer's motto (if it ain't broke, don't fix it), it is now!

Best regards - Alan S

On 15/09/2013 11:19 AM, Ian Deans wrote:


-----Original Message-----
From: David J Taylor
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 10:04 AM
To: MSG-1
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Move to DVB-S2

I see that Eumetsat have updated their site re the move to DVB-S2 next
summer and both the TBS USB box and PCIE card have been removed from their
list of recommended receivers.

Not good news as it leaves the more expensive options as all that is
available at the moment.

Regards
Ian.
=============================================

Last time I looked all recommendations had been removed. Oh, I see what you
mean. Yes, those boxes are more expensive than the low-cost DVB boxes we
are using today, but €300 is still not too high for a one-off purchase.
They do have the important advantage of separating the reception function
from the PC, thus eliminating one source of missed data. You run just the
TelliCast software on the PC, no DVB World or SkyStar software. The
TelliCast software simply needs the IP address of your box on the LAN.
Could well be more robust.

I'm sure we'll continue to press EUMETSAT for a lower-cost solution, but the
saving in a TBS box versus a €300 Ayecka box may not be a lot. Perhaps GEO
will be able to investigate bulk prices.

Cheers,
David
==============================================

That is interesting David and I can see the advantages of the Router/LAN
option.
I wonder if new Tellicast software will be required as the 2.5.17 was never
released and 2.4.4a is still the official latest.

Interesting times ahead !!

Regards
Ian.
SNIP >
--
Alan Sewards
émail: alan@asewards.net
web site: http://asewards.free.fr


Re: ANN: Software updates

Alan Sewards
 

Hi David,

Have you made some changes in the set of LUTs available in this new version of Animator (2,6,12)? I have found that my animations have changed drastically for the times after I installed the new version, and I have noticed that the funny ones show 'none' for the palette. I don't recall what palettes I was using but have tried all those available with no success.
Apart from this, the updates to MSGDM, MetopMgr and AVHRRMgr all seem to have gone well. I had a little trouble with MSGDM through the update being installed in folder MsgDataManager instead of the earlier folder Msg Data Manager...

Best regards - Alan S

On 15/09/2013 9:56 AM, David J Taylor wrote:
Folks,

There are new versions available of my AVHRR Manager (handles EUMETCast
EARS
data), MSG Animator (real-time animations) and MSG Data Manager (handles
EUMETCast geostationary data streams) programs - details here:

http://www.satsignal.eu/software/updates.html

As new data is being added to the EUMETCast stream all the time, you may be
in danger of running out of disk space or having performance issues due to
unprocessed data accumulating if you don't update.

The two MSG updates mentioned are free updates. Other recent upgrades
(which may need purchase of a licence upgrade if you are not on the current
version) include the Metop Manager (V2 licence required for full function)
and AVHRR Manager (V3 licence required for full function), both of which
handle the new Metop-B data.

Any questions to the SatSignal Yahoo group, please:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SatSignal/

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk

--
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�mail: alan@asewards.net
web site: http://asewards.free.fr


Re: poor MSG data

cyril3775
 

I lost all data from on 1 Sept and Yellow T, last night and this morning it was looking better , this afternoon I have instant Pink T and receiving all data.

 

My QTH is 50.33N 4.33W Cornwall and I am assuming that it was due to Solar activity/geomagnetic storms.  Those who have reported problems have been in the South.

 

SpaceWeather sent  an email yesterday stating that Solar flair has been low and with:

 

A medium-speed (~450 km/s) stream of solar wind is gently buffeting Earth's magnetic field. The action of the solar wind has not sparked a geomagnetic storm, but it has been enough to ignite naked-eye auroras around the Arctic Circle. Pilot Brian Whittaker was flying 35,000 feet over Greenland last night when he saw this display out the cockpit window

 

http://spaceweather.com/

 

 

Perhaps someone can explain.

 

Regards

 

Peter Burden.

 

 

 

 

From: MSG-1@... [mailto:MSG-1@...] On Behalf Of Lawrence
Sent: 14 September 2013 20:08
To: msg-1@...
Subject: [MSG-1] poor MSG data

 

 

Please excuse if this post is duplicated but my original has not appeared.

Today I have been receiving many missing segments despite good
signal/quality. Is this just me?

regards

Lawrence Harris


Re: Eumetsat

Alan Sewards
 

Hi,
You get good strength but zero quality when you are pointing at the wrong satellite. That would be my diagnosis. We have had some good winds recently!

Best regards - Alan S

On 15/09/2013 3:14 PM, David J Taylor wrote:
Hello,

Since a few weeks I also have a problem of reception EUMETSAT
Without having modified the installation,

I have 1 meter satellite dish
I have a card PCI TECHNISAT

>>>> QUALITY OF the SIGNAL : 0 % (red)
>>>> STRENGTH OF the SIGNAL : 100 % (GREEN)
>>>> And obviously "T" yellow

Has anybody an explanation ?
Thank you

F5JPK
============================================

Roland,

Do your frequencies look like these?

http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/atovs/index.html#CheckingTheSignalLevel

The "NETWORK NAME" may be different - it changes from time to time
according
to who owns it! Then check you are pointing at the correct satellite - that
your dish hasn't moved. Do you have a spare LNB you can try? It does seem
strange to have good strength but no quality.

73,
David GM8ARV
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk

--
Alan Sewards
�mail: alan@asewards.net
web site: http://asewards.free.fr

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