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Re: Problems with SkyStar card

johnrigsec@...
 

In a message dated 16-09-03 10:10:06 GMT Daylight Time,
Information@... writes:

OK understood. I know people have problems, but I and some others haven't.
As the major distributor of the cards I did not recommend the so called
"upgrade" !
Dave,

I believe you did, posting an e-mail on 03-09-03 which read -

http://www.technisat.com/en/service/download.php
and http://www.t-data.lu/ are more accurate links.  The USB version is
particularly worthwhile.
Dave.



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Re: Data Loss

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

FSD is coming through at the moment so it must be an MSG-1 issue.

Douglas.
Data now flowing - at least HRIT is...and now LRIT MSG-1 as well.

David


Re: Data Loss

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

FSD is coming through at the moment so it must be an MSG-1 issue.

Douglas.
Agreed. David


Data Loss

Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
 

FSD is coming through at the moment so it must be an MSG-1 issue.

Douglas.


Re: Data loss?

Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Taylor" <david-taylor@...>
To: <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:44 PM
Subject: [MSG-1] Data loss?


Is it just me, or did the data stop at around 13:55 UTC today? The
Admin messages which used to be sent every 15/30 minutes don't seem
to be arriving either.

(I am getting GTS messages, but I know not everyone gets those. So
the satellite data link seems OK, and there's nothing out of the
ordinary in the Tellique log).

Thanks,
David

Not been at the computer (out cutting grass) but you are right. It has
stopped half way through the 13.45 scan.

Douglas.


Data loss?

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Is it just me, or did the data stop at around 13:55 UTC today? The
Admin messages which used to be sent every 15/30 minutes don't seem
to be arriving either.

(I am getting GTS messages, but I know not everyone gets those. So
the satellite data link seems OK, and there's nothing out of the
ordinary in the Tellique log).

Thanks,
David


Re: Problems with SkyStar card

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Folks, this is all good stuff, but the topic is drifting away from
the MSG-1 remit of the group. Please keep it MSG-1 specific and not
general computer chit-chat.

Thanks,
David


Re: Skystar 2 V. 4.2.8 problems.

a_van_belle
 

Just some quick notes on this discussion (have to work!):

Don't think there are many faulty cards, most problems are caused by
address conflicts with other cards. Although you might think that PCI
slots and XP solved the IRQ/address conflicts, this is totally not
true. All IRQ's are shared with the many onboard features of modern
mobo's.
Have installed 3 cards in 5 different PC's, had only minor problems
with one combination.
In Modern PC's IRQ's are shared up to 6 times and might not be
present on every PCI slot !
My advice:

1 If your OS/PC does not recognise the newly inserted Skystar at
first boot, you have to move the card to another slot !

2 Don't move the card to another slot once drivers are installed, or
de-install drivers first. This will prevent the "changed IP address"
problem as Windows just installs it as a second Skystar on a
different address!

3 The older Skystar rev. 2.3 does generate more heat that the new
version 2.6B, but both work fine for me (I have the rev 2.3 running
24 hours a day from March 22, even with the heatwave on my attic)

4 Additional cooling: Modern PC's do run very hot themselves. Most
case-manufacturers pay a lot attention to the frontpanel-design with
fancy buttons and lights but totally neglect that sufficient airflow
is mandatory. The addition of low-noise power supplies makes this
even worse !
Monitor your inside case temp, it should not reach 10 degrees over
room temp. If it does, you need an additional Case-fan (or two!).
Bear in mind that all parts that run hot (not warm) have a decreased
life !
If space allows, keep the slot below the Skystar empty and remove the
slot-coverplate, so cool air sweeps along the Skystar.
And finally: some members reported using the PC with open cover. In
some cases this could assist cooling, but in other cases it can
disrupt the designed airflow, making things worse ! Better place a
Case-fan to expel the warm air inside. Two or three fans in your PC,
running at low speed generate less noise compared to 1 fan running at
high speed.


Greetings,
Arne van Belle


Re: Problems with SkyStar card

Guy Martin <agm@...>
 

Even if you un-install a program correctly using the control panel/add remove programs applet there is often a wealth of information left in the registry and I have known this to interfere on numerous occasions with a subsequent re-install. The only safe way is to edit the registry and find and remove all references to the program in question.

Regards, Guy

----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Mawhinney
To: MSG-1@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:36 PM
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [MSG-1] Re: Problems with SkyStar card


I had a series of problems - even got Dave to replace / repair the Skystar
card! When returned by Dave it worked immediately - however when I decide
to reinstall (with Tellique's software) it would only receive the
Announcement Channel. Douglas Dean's suggestion about adding the extra PIDs
for HRIT and LRIT sorted it out and it now seems to work fine. Probably
some Windows Registry screw up on the re-install routines.

Summary, there are faulty cards about, but don't rely on SkyStar /
Tellique's software either, especially if you have tried to re-install a
number of times. I fully endorse the view on a FAQ - collective experience
may well help the unfortunate "Timestep 3".
RogerM


|
|-----Original Message-----
|From: Guy Martin [mailto:agm@...]
|Sent: 16 September 2003 19:26
|To: MSG-1@...
|
|Then again I'm using an Abit KT7 and a Duron 800 with no
|problems since installation about mid May. I'm convinced there
|are some duff cards around. Wrong type of glue as per Fujitsu drives ?
|
|Regards, Guy
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: Hugh Marnoch
| To: MSG-1@...
| Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 6:32 PM
| Subject: Re: Re[2]: [MSG-1] Re: Problems with SkyStar card
|
|
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Re: Skystar 2 V. 4.2.8 problems.

Timestep <Information@...>
 

From: Dave Cawley
Timestep Dartmouth England
e-mail Information@...
Web site http://www.Time-step.com
Tel. +44 (0)1803 833366
Fax. +44 (0)1803 839498

John

As the major importer of the SkyStar card into the UK, this is what I have
been saying all along !!!!

Dave


Re: Problems with SkyStar card

Roger Mawhinney <roger@...>
 

I had a series of problems - even got Dave to replace / repair the Skystar
card! When returned by Dave it worked immediately - however when I decide
to reinstall (with Tellique's software) it would only receive the
Announcement Channel. Douglas Dean's suggestion about adding the extra PIDs
for HRIT and LRIT sorted it out and it now seems to work fine. Probably
some Windows Registry screw up on the re-install routines.

Summary, there are faulty cards about, but don't rely on SkyStar /
Tellique's software either, especially if you have tried to re-install a
number of times. I fully endorse the view on a FAQ - collective experience
may well help the unfortunate "Timestep 3".
RogerM


|

|-----Original Message-----
|From: Guy Martin [mailto:agm@...]
|Sent: 16 September 2003 19:26
|To: MSG-1@...
|
|Then again I'm using an Abit KT7 and a Duron 800 with no
|problems since installation about mid May. I'm convinced there
|are some duff cards around. Wrong type of glue as per Fujitsu drives ?
|
|Regards, Guy
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: Hugh Marnoch
| To: MSG-1@...
| Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 6:32 PM
| Subject: Re: Re[2]: [MSG-1] Re: Problems with SkyStar card
|
|
Snipped....


Skystar 2 V. 4.2.8 problems.

johnrigsec@...
 

All,

I've been in touch with EUMETSAT regarding the problems some users of the
EUMETCast service have experienced following upgrading their SkyStar 2
software to the updated version.

They say users should use the old version of software for the time being.
In the meantime they are to carry out some investigation into the problems
encountered by users and will advise back with their findings.

So, as said previously by several users stick to the original version.

Regards,
John Tellick.
RIG.


Re: Problems with SkyStar card

Guy Martin <agm@...>
 

Then again I'm using an Abit KT7 and a Duron 800 with no problems since installation about mid May. I'm convinced there are some duff cards around. Wrong type of glue as per Fujitsu drives ?

Regards, Guy

----- Original Message -----
From: Hugh Marnoch
To: MSG-1@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [MSG-1] Re: Problems with SkyStar card


Is it possible that the problems with the card are linked to the mobo/chipset?
I think the card requires a lot of power from the mobo and if the chipset can't deliver then there are problems. I have no basis in fact for this except that I had an adsl modem (usb) that just would not work with my then abit kt7 mobo as the via chipset could not deliver enough power.
For myself the skystar card has been flawless in my original machine and in the upgraded machine it is in now. My only problem was man (me) made and was sorted quickly.

Hugh

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On 16/09/2003 at 17:50 John Parkins wrote:

>Hello Dave,
>
>You have to remember Dave just because you have only sold 100 that
>doesn't represent the total world wide sale of these cards. There are
>far more people than you suggest who are having problems with this
>card, not only on various Yahoo list but also on usenet and other
>forums there have been complaint after complaint. Remember this card
>is not only used for the purpose we want it for.
>
>You have to admit a slightly bias view of things, after all you are
>trying to sell them but then I'm a professional computer engineer and
>so far, admittedly with the same card, I score 2 out of 4 for semi
>successful installations.
>
>Even the manufacturer admits to there being problems with some
>chipsets. So yes it might be as easy as following a few easy
>instructions, but then again it might not be.
>
>Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 5:17:08 PM, you wrote:
>
>
>T> From: Dave Cawley
>T> Timestep Dartmouth England
>T> e-mail Information@...
>T> Web site http://www.Time-step.com
>T> Tel. +44 (0)1803 833366
>T> Fax. +44 (0)1803 839498
>
>T> There are about 3 people on all lists who cannot get their system
>working,
>T> this leaves about 97 who have ! You must follow the instructions.
>
>T> In common with a lot of plug and play devices, if you move the card you
>will
>T> have problems.
>
>T> David, any idea of the total number of downloads of your software ?
>
>T> Regards
>
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Re: Problems with SkyStar card

Hugh Marnoch <marnoch@...>
 

Is it possible that the problems with the card are linked to the mobo/chipset?
I think the card requires a lot of power from the mobo and if the chipset can't deliver then there are problems. I have no basis in fact for this except that I had an adsl modem (usb) that just would not work with my then abit kt7 mobo as the via chipset could not deliver enough power.
For myself the skystar card has been flawless in my original machine and in the upgraded machine it is in now. My only problem was man (me) made and was sorted quickly.

Hugh

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

On 16/09/2003 at 17:50 John Parkins wrote:

Hello Dave,

You have to remember Dave just because you have only sold 100 that
doesn't represent the total world wide sale of these cards. There are
far more people than you suggest who are having problems with this
card, not only on various Yahoo list but also on usenet and other
forums there have been complaint after complaint. Remember this card
is not only used for the purpose we want it for.

You have to admit a slightly bias view of things, after all you are
trying to sell them but then I'm a professional computer engineer and
so far, admittedly with the same card, I score 2 out of 4 for semi
successful installations.

Even the manufacturer admits to there being problems with some
chipsets. So yes it might be as easy as following a few easy
instructions, but then again it might not be.

Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 5:17:08 PM, you wrote:


T> From: Dave Cawley
T> Timestep Dartmouth England
T> e-mail Information@...
T> Web site http://www.Time-step.com
T> Tel. +44 (0)1803 833366
T> Fax. +44 (0)1803 839498

T> There are about 3 people on all lists who cannot get their system
working,
T> this leaves about 97 who have ! You must follow the instructions.

T> In common with a lot of plug and play devices, if you move the card you
will
T> have problems.

T> David, any idea of the total number of downloads of your software ?

T> Regards

T> Dave



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Re: Problems with SkyStar card

John Parkins <john@...>
 

Hello Dave,

You have to remember Dave just because you have only sold 100 that
doesn't represent the total world wide sale of these cards. There are
far more people than you suggest who are having problems with this
card, not only on various Yahoo list but also on usenet and other
forums there have been complaint after complaint. Remember this card
is not only used for the purpose we want it for.

You have to admit a slightly bias view of things, after all you are
trying to sell them but then I'm a professional computer engineer and
so far, admittedly with the same card, I score 2 out of 4 for semi
successful installations.

Even the manufacturer admits to there being problems with some
chipsets. So yes it might be as easy as following a few easy
instructions, but then again it might not be.

Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 5:17:08 PM, you wrote:


T> From: Dave Cawley
T> Timestep Dartmouth England
T> e-mail Information@...
T> Web site http://www.Time-step.com
T> Tel. +44 (0)1803 833366
T> Fax. +44 (0)1803 839498

T> There are about 3 people on all lists who cannot get their system working,
T> this leaves about 97 who have ! You must follow the instructions.

T> In common with a lot of plug and play devices, if you move the card you will
T> have problems.

T> David, any idea of the total number of downloads of your software ?

T> Regards

T> Dave



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Re: Problems with SkyStar card

Lawrence <lawrence@...>
 

USB units ?? My favourite, but I suspect if they were only 10 pounds more,
that we would not sell any; at 3 times the price, wonderful although they
are, and with a 45cm dish and a laptop you can have mobile MSG, we have only
sold a handful.

Regards

Dave
Have you thought about having the USB unit reviewed? ;-)

regards

Lawrence


Re: Problems with SkyStar card

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

There are about 3 people on all lists who cannot get their system
working,
this leaves about 97 who have ! You must follow the instructions.

In common with a lot of plug and play devices, if you move the
card you will
have problems.

David, any idea of the total number of downloads of your software ?

Regards

Dave
Your numbers are pretty close, Dave, there are over 100 happy users.

Cheers,
David


Re: Problems with SkyStar card

Timestep <Information@...>
 

From: Dave Cawley
Timestep Dartmouth England
e-mail Information@...
Web site http://www.Time-step.com
Tel. +44 (0)1803 833366
Fax. +44 (0)1803 839498

There are about 3 people on all lists who cannot get their system working,
this leaves about 97 who have ! You must follow the instructions.

In common with a lot of plug and play devices, if you move the card you will
have problems.

David, any idea of the total number of downloads of your software ?

Regards

Dave


Re: Problems with SkyStar card

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

T> If you follow all the instructions to the letter, everything
will work first time. I just did another installation yesterday,
simple...................

Sorry but that is just NOT the case.
Folks, I think that some people have definitely had more problems
than others. I was lucky on my first install and everything worked
OK. However, when I moved the card to improve the cooling, I needed
some messing about to restore functionality. It's a case for
following the instructions to the letter and not attempting to take
any short-cuts.

There is an obvious need for a comprehensive set of FAQs to help in
fault finding and interpreting log files and all the other
diagnostics. Setting up the eToken will only complicate the set of
things that can go wrong!

Cheers,
David


Re: Problems with SkyStar card

John Parkins <john@...>
 

Hello Dave,

Sorry but that is just NOT the case.

Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 4:24:32 PM, you wrote:


T> From: Dave Cawley
T> Timestep Dartmouth England
T> e-mail Information@...
T> Web site http://www.Time-step.com
T> Tel. +44 (0)1803 833366
T> Fax. +44 (0)1803 839498

T> If you follow all the instructions to the letter, everything will work first
T> time. I just did another installation yesterday, simple...................

T> Dave

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