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Re: EKU replacement

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Hi,
Thanks for that, and the etoken looks to be working correctly. Unfortunately I need to find my password now for the etoken. I cant seem to find it anywhere. Is there any way you can find it.
Unfortunately my computer crashed and I am having to set everything up again..

Philip
====================================

Philip/Dave?

There is no password for the eToken. Just cancel the request. This /is/ covered on the EUMETSAT install CD tutorial.

Cheers,
David
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Black T on red

Dave
 

Hi,
As a continuation of the lost password for etoken problem. I reinstalled eumetsat from the CD and put what I believe was my user name and password during the procedure, and had a list of hotkeys after, so I presume that must have been the correct password I entered.
I continued with the setup, but I am still at my original problem of a black T in red with tc-rcv connect failed. I double click on the black T and I have information
Status:Config error
in Active Channels : TSL announcement channel shows state Error.

I wonder if the user name and password are incorrect. If so I cant understand during setup with the eumetsat CD, the user name and password seemed to be accepted and allowed me to continue with the setup.

I am really struggling to get my setup going again.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Philip


Re: EKU replacement

Dave
 

Hi,
Thanks for that, and the etoken looks to be working correctly. Unfortunately I need to find my password now for the etoken. I cant seem to find it anywhere. Is there any way you can find it.
Unfortunately my computer crashed and I am having to set everything up again..

Philip

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "David J Taylor" wrote:

I think I may have damaged my EKU.When pulling out of the USB slot. the
bottom section came away. I seemed to put it back together ok and it lights
up when reinserted in to the usb slot, the EKU lit ok.
However the Red T does not change now to yellow T.
Does anyone know how I can get a new eku.

Thanks
Philip
=====================================

Philip,

Try, Programs, eToken, eToken properties, and click on the View eToken Info
button. See if you get a page of eToken information display (like the
sample below). If the page looks OK, your eToken is working.

Sample: http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/Dexatek/125-d.png

From my Web page: http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/Dexatek/eToken.html

Order a replacement from EUMETSAT as Alan mentioned. There are other
trouble-shooting steps mentioned in those pages and here:

http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/atovs/EUMETCast-trouble-shooting-guide.html

Cheers,
David
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Re: EKU replacement

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

I think I may have damaged my EKU.When pulling out of the USB slot. the bottom section came away. I seemed to put it back together ok and it lights up when reinserted in to the usb slot, the EKU lit ok.
However the Red T does not change now to yellow T.
Does anyone know how I can get a new eku.

Thanks
Philip
=====================================

Philip,

Try, Programs, eToken, eToken properties, and click on the View eToken Info button. See if you get a page of eToken information display (like the sample below). If the page looks OK, your eToken is working.

Sample: http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/Dexatek/125-d.png

From my Web page: http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/Dexatek/eToken.html

Order a replacement from EUMETSAT as Alan mentioned. There are other trouble-shooting steps mentioned in those pages and here:

http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/atovs/EUMETCast-trouble-shooting-guide.html

Cheers,
David
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Re: EKU replacement

Alan Banks <alan@...>
 

On 26/01/2013 18:21, Dave wrote:
I think I may have damaged my EKU.When pulling out of the USB slot. the bottom section came away. I seemed to put it back together ok and it lights up when reinserted in to the usb slot, the EKU lit ok.
However the Red T does not change now to yellow T.
Does anyone know how I can get a new eku.

Thanks
Philip

To get a replacement EKU.
Goto your EO Portal login
Edit/View subscription
Click on edit/view
scroll down to EUMETCast
click on modify
order new EKU and you will be invoiced for a new one. They now accept credit cards online to pay for the invoice once received.

Alan


Re: EKU replacement

R. Alblas
 

Philip,

The EKU doesn't change the colour of your T. Something else must be wrong; Tellicast receives PID100 (yellow T) but it doesn't recognize it's from Eumetcast.

See:

http://www.alblas.demon.nl/wsat/msg_info.html#tshoot


Rob.

Dave schreef op 2013-01-26 19:21:

I think I may have damaged my EKU.When pulling out of the USB slot.
the bottom section came away. I seemed to put it back together ok and
it lights up when reinserted in to the usb slot, the EKU lit ok.
However the Red T does not change now to yellow T.
Does anyone know how I can get a new eku.
Thanks
Philip
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EKU replacement

Dave
 

I think I may have damaged my EKU.When pulling out of the USB slot. the bottom section came away. I seemed to put it back together ok and it lights up when reinserted in to the usb slot, the EKU lit ok.
However the Red T does not change now to yellow T.
Does anyone know how I can get a new eku.

Thanks
Philip


Re: DVBWorld problems

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

From: Paul-NTL
[]
Brilliant :) Cheers David

System back up and working fine now, it was the driver issue.

Best regards

Paul
===========================================

Good to hear, Paul. We'll try and get more of this information up on the GEO Web site for members.

Cheers,
David
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Re: DVBWorld problems

Paul-NTL <phqfh1@...>
 

Paul,

There's a download link on the Web page I mentioned. It's:

http://home.hccnet.nl/a.van.belle/GEO/V2.0%20DVB%20World-20080415+Ecast+guid
e.zip

Cheers,
David
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==============================================================

Brilliant :) Cheers David

System back up and working fine now, it was the driver issue.

Best regards

Paul


Re: DVBWorld problems

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Yes it does help although I am not 100% happy with my present set-up given
that I am only running a 32 bit operating system and with 8 GB of ram not
necessary very sensible. Ok I have used some of it on a 800 Mb RAMdisk but
a lot still not being used.

Just letting things settle down after losing Windows 8/64 trying to install
2007 DVBWorld drivers for my Dexatek box.

Being near the sea does help although I am probably 800 feet or so above sea
level and have had some snow -- but not as much as Douglas.

Regards
Ian.
==========================================

Unless you've moved since 2007, Ian, I make your altitude more like 45 m or 147 feet. That's from both my GPS reading and a UK contour map.

BTW: Arne van Belle pointed out a RAMdisk which could use memory above 4 GB on a 32bit system IIRC. Gavotte RAMdisk? Yes:

http://www.jensscheffler.de/using-gavotte-ramdisk-in-windows-7

But I wouldn't try it without having a good backup first, just in case....

Cheers,
David
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Re: DVBWorld problems

Ian Deans
 

Yes it does help although I am not 100% happy with my present set-up given
that I am only running a 32 bit operating system and with 8 GB of ram not
necessary very sensible. Ok I have used some of it on a 800 Mb RAMdisk but
a lot still not being used.

Just letting things settle down after losing Windows 8/64 trying to install
2007 DVBWorld drivers for my Dexatek box.

Being near the sea does help although I am probably 800 feet or so above sea
level and have had some snow -- but not as much as Douglas.

Regards
Ian.

-----Original Message-----
From: David J Taylor
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 7:45 AM
To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] DVBWorld problems

I have a full Eumetcast system ( receive and process ) on both my Windows
7/64 and Windows 8/32 so that I have a full back-up. They are both in the
same computer but only one is powered on at any one time.

I am using my Windows 8/32 on a HD as my main computer with the Windows 7/64
on an SSD available as a back-up.

Regards
Ian.
====================================

Thanks, Ian. Nice to have an (almost) hot standby. Hope the weather has
not been too unkind to you up there - being near the Tay estuary must help
you like being near the Forth estuary does here. You're even nearer the
water than I am.

Cheers,
David
--


Re: DVBWorld problems

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

I have a full Eumetcast system ( receive and process ) on both my Windows
7/64 and Windows 8/32 so that I have a full back-up. They are both in the
same computer but only one is powered on at any one time.

I am using my Windows 8/32 on a HD as my main computer with the Windows 7/64
on an SSD available as a back-up.

Regards
Ian.
====================================

Thanks, Ian. Nice to have an (almost) hot standby. Hope the weather has not been too unkind to you up there - being near the Tay estuary must help you like being near the Forth estuary does here. You're even nearer the water than I am.

Cheers,
David
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Re: DVBWorld problems

Ian Deans
 

I have a full Eumetcast system ( receive and process ) on both my Windows 7/64 and Windows 8/32 so that I have a full back-up. They are both in the same computer but only one is powered on at any one time.

I am using my Windows 8/32 on a HD as my main computer with the Windows 7/64 on an SSD available as a back-up.

Regards
Ian.

-----Original Message-----
From: David J Taylor
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 7:53 PM
To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] DVBWorld problems



Do I understand that you have a separate PC for EUMETCast running Win-7/64,
or is EUMETCast on the Win-8/32 system?

Cheers,
David
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Re: DVBWorld problems

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Many thanks David for your detailed reply.

I must admit it just annoys me that the company knows their is a bug in
their 2008/2010 drivers on 64-bit but because it does not affect the boxes
TV use ( which is probably 90%+ of sales ) they are doing nothing about it.

My Windows 8 64-bit download used my Windows 7 key so the operating system
cannot be recovered.

Interesting to hear of your experience with the Technisat Box. I have used
and tested a Technisat HD USB box on both Windows 8 32 and 64 bit and found
no problems using the Windows 7 4.6.0 drivers / software. I would say that
my Technisat HD box is not as good as the Dexatek box as the
missed/recovered packets are higher, but to be fair losses are rare.

I am surprised that Technisat are not releasing Windows 8 drivers.

I am now running Windows 8 32 bit on my HD as my main computer and Windows 7
64 bit on my SSD is my back-up.

Regards
Ian.
=========================================

Ian,

Yes, it's annoying, but at least we do have a driver/program pair which work for the Dexatek/DVBWorld box, unlike the situation for the TechniSat USB 2 box. Your HD USB box must be just recent enough to work, or at least, to work without causing unexpected reboots. I was seeing zero packet loss until the snow came and covered up the antenna!

Have you tried contacting Microsoft? They may be able to help.

Do I understand that you have a separate PC for EUMETCast running Win-7/64, or is EUMETCast on the Win-8/32 system?

Cheers,
David
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Re: DVBWorld problems

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

David

Dependable as always :) thanks for your quick response.

After going over your info and your your excellent guides it's looking as
you say like a driver issue.

The only driver George has came from Eumetsat which shows up as:
DVB ETCorp
Driver 5/07/2009
Version 6.3.0.1

Do you think this maybe the problem? if so can we obtain the correct driver
online?

Best regards

Paul
=================================

Paul,

There's a download link on the Web page I mentioned. It's:

http://home.hccnet.nl/a.van.belle/GEO/V2.0%20DVB%20World-20080415+Ecast+guide.zip

Cheers,
David
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Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk


Re: DVBWorld problems

Ian Deans
 

Many thanks David for your detailed reply.

I must admit it just annoys me that the company knows their is a bug in their 2008/2010 drivers on 64-bit but because it does not affect the boxes TV use ( which is probably 90%+ of sales ) they are doing nothing about it.

My Windows 8 64-bit download used my Windows 7 key so the operating system cannot be recovered.

Interesting to hear of your experience with the Technisat Box. I have used and tested a Technisat HD USB box on both Windows 8 32 and 64 bit and found no problems using the Windows 7 4.6.0 drivers / software. I would say that my Technisat HD box is not as good as the Dexatek box as the missed/recovered packets are higher, but to be fair losses are rare.

I am surprised that Technisat are not releasing Windows 8 drivers.

I am now running Windows 8 32 bit on my HD as my main computer and Windows 7 64 bit on my SSD is my back-up.

Regards
Ian.

-----Original Message-----
From: David J Taylor
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 4:11 PM
To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] DVBWorld problems

Just to clarify my position re Windows 8 and the Dexatek/DVBWorld drivers
and software, I only have them working on my backup 32 bit Windows 8 system.

Attempting to run Dexatek/DVBWorld drivers on Windows 8 64-bit not only
proved impossible but seriously corrupted my Windows 8 start up and as I had
downloaded the operating system from the internet ( for �24 ) without a
back-up disc I lost the whole operating system.

I am now running Windows 7 64-bit on that computer and would not recommend
you even try using Dexatek/DVBWorld boxes on Windows 8 64-bit as there are
serious risks. Lets get a reality check with these boxes, you need 5/6 year
old drivers to get them to work on Windows 7 64-bit and there has been no
updated drivers /software since Vista !!!

Regards
Ian.
===================================================

Ian,

Many thanks for that clarification. I understand that Win-8 now requires
signing for both 64-bit /and/ 32-bit drivers, but I am not 100% sure about
that. If you have a licence key for Windows-8, you can get the distribution
media from various places should you wish to experiment again. You may be
able to get a replacement key by contacting Microsoft. It's a reminder to
take a copy of anything downloaded for security. I have seen problems with
Windows start-up, but only on a Compaq system which had an EFI BIOS and
couldn't boot from CDs or DVDs I had made recovery DVDs but had no way of
using them. I think it managed with a USB stick containing Win-8/64
bootable. That system went back to Currys for a refund.

By contrast. my new Novatech system works a treat, although there are rather
more BIOS options than I am used to. Fast delivery and a vey knowledgeable
pre-sales service. Ordered on the Tuesday, arrived on the Wednesday.
Delivery charge included in the quoted price.

Sorry to hear about the problems with the Win-8/64 system and the DVB World
drivers - I followed the published steps for installing unsigned drivers and
they worked as expected. An add-on USB 3.0 port didn't work properly, but
the box appears OK on a USB 2.0 port. I had also been testing with a 32-bit
Win-8 PC until the power supply for the Dexatek failed, and that worked
correctly as well. It does seem that you have been unlucky. In fact the
only device which /has/ caused problems on Win-8 has been the TechniSat USB
2 box, where, although the drivers installed, the PC would randomly reboot.
It now appears that TechniSat aren't supporting Windows-8 for some products.
Bear in mind that at least some of the Microsoft drivers for Windows-8 are
also 5-6 years old, so don't be put off simply by the driver age.

Cheers,
David
--


Re: DVBWorld problems

Paul-NTL <phqfh1@...>
 

David

Dependable as always :) thanks for your quick response.

After going over your info and your your excellent guides it's looking as
you say like a driver issue.

The only driver George has came from Eumetsat which shows up as:
DVB ETCorp
Driver 5/07/2009
Version 6.3.0.1

Do you think this maybe the problem? if so can we obtain the correct driver
online?

Best regards

Paul
=========================================

Paul,

Nice to hear from you!

I spoke with George this morning and suggest he follow my guide:

http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/Dexatek/

Win-7 and Win-8 64-bit have certain driver issues, which are discussed
here:

http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/Dexatek/Dexatek.html#64-bit

so you need the correct combination of driver and DVB World program as
found
on the GEO CD. From Device Manager and Windows Explorer:

Driver:
Device: DVB NET ETAdapter
Driver: DVB ETCorp 24/07/2007 6.1.0.2, not digitally signed
DVBNet.sys, 1.0.2.0 built by WinDDK, Copyright 2005-2006 DVB Provider

DVB World program:
Program DVB World 3.0 B01, (c) 2004-2008, ver: 12-05-2008

I can vouch that these combinations do work on both Win-7/64 and Win-8/64,
although you may need to set Win-8/64 so that unsigned drivers can be
installed, and the Dexatek (and likely DVB World) box may not work
correctly
in a USB 3.0 port (I only discovered this today).

You should also ensure that the ROUTE ADD command has been run, It's
mentioned on the EUMETSAT installation CD. The output from the ROUTE PRINT
command should include the lines:

Persistent Routes:
Network Address Netmask Gateway Address Metric
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 192.168.238.238 1

Oh, and TechniSat aren't supplying Windows-8 drivers for at least some of
their boxes and cards, and the Win-7 4.0.6a drivers may cause intermittent
crashes on a Win-8 system. I've only had the Win-8/DVB World software
running for a few hours so far, so perhaps there are some surprises in
store! But they have worked for at least two others (Graham Woolf and Ian
Deans).

Cheers,
David
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Re: DVBWorld problems

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Just to clarify my position re Windows 8 and the Dexatek/DVBWorld drivers
and software, I only have them working on my backup 32 bit Windows 8 system.

Attempting to run Dexatek/DVBWorld drivers on Windows 8 64-bit not only
proved impossible but seriously corrupted my Windows 8 start up and as I had
downloaded the operating system from the internet ( for �24 ) without a
back-up disc I lost the whole operating system.

I am now running Windows 7 64-bit on that computer and would not recommend
you even try using Dexatek/DVBWorld boxes on Windows 8 64-bit as there are
serious risks. Lets get a reality check with these boxes, you need 5/6 year
old drivers to get them to work on Windows 7 64-bit and there has been no
updated drivers /software since Vista !!!

Regards
Ian.
===================================================

Ian,

Many thanks for that clarification. I understand that Win-8 now requires signing for both 64-bit /and/ 32-bit drivers, but I am not 100% sure about that. If you have a licence key for Windows-8, you can get the distribution media from various places should you wish to experiment again. You may be able to get a replacement key by contacting Microsoft. It's a reminder to take a copy of anything downloaded for security. I have seen problems with Windows start-up, but only on a Compaq system which had an EFI BIOS and couldn't boot from CDs or DVDs I had made recovery DVDs but had no way of using them. I think it managed with a USB stick containing Win-8/64 bootable. That system went back to Currys for a refund.

By contrast. my new Novatech system works a treat, although there are rather more BIOS options than I am used to. Fast delivery and a vey knowledgeable pre-sales service. Ordered on the Tuesday, arrived on the Wednesday. Delivery charge included in the quoted price.

Sorry to hear about the problems with the Win-8/64 system and the DVB World drivers - I followed the published steps for installing unsigned drivers and they worked as expected. An add-on USB 3.0 port didn't work properly, but the box appears OK on a USB 2.0 port. I had also been testing with a 32-bit Win-8 PC until the power supply for the Dexatek failed, and that worked correctly as well. It does seem that you have been unlucky. In fact the only device which /has/ caused problems on Win-8 has been the TechniSat USB 2 box, where, although the drivers installed, the PC would randomly reboot. It now appears that TechniSat aren't supporting Windows-8 for some products. Bear in mind that at least some of the Microsoft drivers for Windows-8 are also 5-6 years old, so don't be put off simply by the driver age.

Cheers,
David
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Re: DVBWorld problems

woolfg <graham@...>
 

Hi Ian

That's certainly not my experience. I have been running Windows 8 64bit now for about three months and have had no issues whatsoever . I am running DVBWorld software with an external USB receiver but once I found the correct drivers I have not had one second of downtime

Regards

Graham

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "Ian Deans" wrote:

Just to clarify my position re Windows 8 and the Dexatek/DVBWorld drivers
and software, I only have them working on my backup 32 bit Windows 8 system.

Attempting to run Dexatek/DVBWorld drivers on Windows 8 64-bit not only
proved impossible but seriously corrupted my Windows 8 start up and as I had
downloaded the operating system from the internet ( for £24 ) without a
back-up disc I lost the whole operating system.

I am now running Windows 7 64-bit on that computer and would not recommend
you even try using Dexatek/DVBWorld boxes on Windows 8 64-bit as there are
serious risks. Lets get a reality check with these boxes, you need 5/6 year
old drivers to get them to work on Windows 7 64-bit and there has been no
updated drivers /software since Vista !!!

Regards
Ian.


-----Original Message-----
From: David J Taylor
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 2:48 PM
To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] DVBWorld problems




Oh, and TechniSat aren't supplying Windows-8 drivers for at least some of
their boxes and cards, and the Win-7 4.0.6a drivers may cause intermittent
crashes on a Win-8 system. I've only had the Win-8/DVB World software
running for a few hours so far, so perhaps there are some surprises in
store! But they have worked for at least two others (Graham Woolf and Ian
Deans).

Cheers,
David
--


Re: DVBWorld problems

Ian Deans
 

Just to clarify my position re Windows 8 and the Dexatek/DVBWorld drivers and software, I only have them working on my backup 32 bit Windows 8 system.

Attempting to run Dexatek/DVBWorld drivers on Windows 8 64-bit not only proved impossible but seriously corrupted my Windows 8 start up and as I had downloaded the operating system from the internet ( for �24 ) without a back-up disc I lost the whole operating system.

I am now running Windows 7 64-bit on that computer and would not recommend you even try using Dexatek/DVBWorld boxes on Windows 8 64-bit as there are serious risks. Lets get a reality check with these boxes, you need 5/6 year old drivers to get them to work on Windows 7 64-bit and there has been no updated drivers /software since Vista !!!

Regards
Ian.

-----Original Message-----
From: David J Taylor
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 2:48 PM
To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] DVBWorld problems




Oh, and TechniSat aren't supplying Windows-8 drivers for at least some of
their boxes and cards, and the Win-7 4.0.6a drivers may cause intermittent
crashes on a Win-8 system. I've only had the Win-8/DVB World software
running for a few hours so far, so perhaps there are some surprises in
store! But they have worked for at least two others (Graham Woolf and Ian
Deans).

Cheers,
David
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