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Re: Some help please - before I go mad !

Alan Sewards
 

Brian:
Sorry to hear of your troubles. I would suspect that you have not got your dish aligned properly on Eurobird 9E. It is quite difficult to find this signal, it is weaker than one has been used to on Hotbird and a satellite finder is pretty well essential. Even tightening the bolts is enough to lose the signal. BTW, your figures for signal strength and quality sound low to me - what size is your dish? I am in the south of France and, using a 80 cm dish, I get 70% quality and S/N of 10.7 dB on Eurobird 9. In the UK you should do better than this. My SkyStar 2 PCI card is now 9 years old!

Best regards - Alan S

On 09/12/2012 11:42 PM, m0rnr@btinternet.com wrote:
Hi Everyone,

Having finally got around to moving my dish following the switch from
Hotbird 13E to 9E I have a problem.

Prior to moving my dish my technisat sky star 2 pci card was working
fine, receiving TV channels really well.

Moved the dish to a new location where I get sight of 9E (house blocking
it previously) I originally used dish pointer to point to 13E and my
plan was to get the system up and working at 13E then move the dish to
9E, piece of cake.....so I thought. My problem is since the move, I just
get no signal lock. I have 45 - 50% signal strength, but no signal
quality at all, just out of lock.

Currently using v4.6.0 of technisat software as provided by EUMETSAT on
their latest software disc when I asked for an updated software set.

Here is a list of things I've tried:-

- Rolled back to v4.3.0 of technisat and back again

- moved desktop pc and tested it on my sky tv dish and proved the card
has no fault. All working fine

- replaced the coax run and both f connectors - no joy

- checked both f connectors for shorts - all OK

- replaced the LNB with a GEO shop bought LNB - no better

- switched back to old LNB, just in case. Still nothing

- Moved the PC downstairs and tested on a shorter length of coax - no
signal, slight 1 or 2% improvement in signal (coax run is about 30m but
using webro wf100 cable so should be OK.

- tried moving the dish to a slightly higher location (on my amateur
radio mast) so now approx 5m above ground and has a clear shot of 13E

- tried pointing at different satellites - Astra 19e for example - not a
sniff of a signal.

- Azimuth and elevation plus LNB skew checked with dishpointer and about
half a dozen ipad apps

I'm just at a loss as to what to do next. Other than replacing the dish
(which I don't want to do if I can avoid it) and employing a
professional installer (again rather not on point of principle :-) or
moving house, which is a bit excessive) I'm baffled, the old hotbird 13E
signal strength was only about 40 - 45% on a good day so I'm fairly
confident I haven't made the signal any worse but can't get out of the
blocks on 13E without swinging the dish to 9E.

Any thoughts??? surely it can't be hardware if it is what haven't I
done? is it software related???? I was so looking forward to getting set
back up again, rejoined GEO and this has really put the mockers on the
event.

Any help much appreciated

Thanks

Brian
M0RNR

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Alan Sewards
�mail: alan@asewards.net
web site: http://asewards.free.fr


Some help please - before I go mad !

m0rnr@btinternet.com
 

Hi Everyone,

Having finally got around to moving my dish following the switch from Hotbird 13E to 9E I have a problem.

Prior to moving my dish my technisat sky star 2 pci card was working fine, receiving TV channels really well.

Moved the dish to a new location where I get sight of 9E (house blocking it previously) I originally used dish pointer to point to 13E and my plan was to get the system up and working at 13E then move the dish to 9E, piece of cake.....so I thought. My problem is since the move, I just get no signal lock. I have 45 - 50% signal strength, but no signal quality at all, just out of lock.

Currently using v4.6.0 of technisat software as provided by EUMETSAT on their latest software disc when I asked for an updated software set.

Here is a list of things I've tried:-

- Rolled back to v4.3.0 of technisat and back again

- moved desktop pc and tested it on my sky tv dish and proved the card has no fault. All working fine

- replaced the coax run and both f connectors - no joy

- checked both f connectors for shorts - all OK

- replaced the LNB with a GEO shop bought LNB - no better

- switched back to old LNB, just in case. Still nothing

- Moved the PC downstairs and tested on a shorter length of coax - no signal, slight 1 or 2% improvement in signal (coax run is about 30m but using webro wf100 cable so should be OK.

- tried moving the dish to a slightly higher location (on my amateur radio mast) so now approx 5m above ground and has a clear shot of 13E

- tried pointing at different satellites - Astra 19e for example - not a sniff of a signal.

- Azimuth and elevation plus LNB skew checked with dishpointer and about half a dozen ipad apps

I'm just at a loss as to what to do next. Other than replacing the dish (which I don't want to do if I can avoid it) and employing a professional installer (again rather not on point of principle :-) or moving house, which is a bit excessive) I'm baffled, the old hotbird 13E signal strength was only about 40 - 45% on a good day so I'm fairly confident I haven't made the signal any worse but can't get out of the blocks on 13E without swinging the dish to 9E.

Any thoughts??? surely it can't be hardware if it is what haven't I done? is it software related???? I was so looking forward to getting set back up again, rejoined GEO and this has really put the mockers on the event.

Any help much appreciated

Thanks

Brian
M0RNR


Re: VIRUS???

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

David,

Thanks.

Or remember to switch off AVG (and ZoneAlarm) when I've finished accessing
the Internet?

I get very few 'missed data' except when my RAMDisk is nearly full - or
'empty' - if you know what I mean.

Mind you, I'm taking the full amount of EUMETCast data.
Don't seem to have had much time and/or inclination to 'update' this year.

Regards,
John.
=======================================

John,

My recommendation would be that unless you /need/ to switch off the anti-virus and firewall to reduce missed data, I would leave it running whether Internet connected or not. This then avoids the "Oh, I forgot to switch it on again" when reconnecting to the Internet. But telling the AV to leave the very "busy" directories alone will help minimise data loss (so that's the \received\ directory tree, and wherever your .FSY files are located.

There's normally no need for a EUMETCast PC to be connected to the Internet, providing that the software (and Kepler data) are kept up to date. Whilst a memory stick will suffice for the occasional program update, Kepler updates for the AVHRR Manager, WXtrack and HRPT Reader are best managed with a permanent Internet connection.

You will find quite a few updates required soon - either configuration changes or program updates. Full-scan data will switch from MSG-2 to MSG-3, and rapid-scan from MSG-1 to MSG-2. No upgrade is required, just configuration changes. Prime polar orbiter data switches from Metop-A to Metop-B, which needs a program upgrade for my software. You'll find the details on my Web site and under active discussion in the SatSignal Yahoo group:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SatSignal/

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk


Re: VIRUS???

geojohnt@...
 

In a message dated 07/12/2012 12:07:55 GMT Standard Time,
gm8arv@yahoo.co.uk writes:

It will just be some random combination of bit patterns which has fooled
the
anti-virus software. For minimum missed data, I would exclude the
\received\ directory tree from virus-scanning.


David,

Thanks.

Or remember to switch off AVG (and ZoneAlarm) when I've finished accessing
the Internet?

I get very few 'missed data' except when my RAMDisk is nearly full - or
'empty' - if you know what I mean.

Mind you, I'm taking the full amount of EUMETCast data.
Don't seem to have had much time and/or inclination to 'update' this year.

Regards,
John.


Re: VIRUS???

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

All,

It would appear, since nobody else has 'screamed' - that my virus alert on
EUMETCast data this morning was a 'blip.'
[]
AVG reported 'Accessed file is infected.'
File name: C\Program Files\T - Systems\Business
TV-IP\received\\H-000-MSG2__MSG2_____-IR_016___-000007__-201212070815-C_
[]
I seem to remember something similar happened last year - or the year
before.
Obviously some sort of an 'anomaly' as we know the EUMETCast data stream is
quite safe.

Regards,
John Tellick.
=============================================================

John,

It will just be some random combination of bit patterns which has fooled the anti-virus software. For minimum missed data, I would exclude the \received\ directory tree from virus-scanning.

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk


VIRUS???

geojohnt@...
 

All,

It would appear, since nobody else has 'screamed' - that my virus alert on
EUMETCast data this morning was a 'blip.'

I'd checked the images at around 08:05 and all was OK.
After breakfast, had another look for impending rain and my AVG had a
warning up on 'Threat detected.'

This computer is only used for EUMETCast - and updating keps and
downloading David's software updates.
I'd not closed AVG and ZoneAlarm having recently updated my keps.

AVG reported 'Accessed file is infected.'
File name: C\Program Files\T - Systems\Business
TV-IP\received\\H-000-MSG2__MSG2_____-IR_016___-000007__-201212070815-C_

Threat name: Trojan horse Generic16ADUV

Process name: C\Tools\SatSignal\MSGDataManager.exe

Clicking the AVG 'Heal' tab gives: "Some files cannot be healed."
And: "Specified files could not be found."

Click "Move to vault." closes EVG.

I seem to remember something similar happened last year - or the year
before.
Obviously some sort of an 'anomaly' as we know the EUMETCast data stream is
quite safe.

Regards,
John Tellick.


monitoring

Ulrich G. Kliegis
 

Just a short note that my eumetmon.rummelecke.de page is back in business, showing my
reception parameters near Kiel.

If you happen to migrate a web server to the latest plesk version, make sure that the folder that
is designated for the subdomain user is entered correctly. Here, the automatic migration went
fine - except that the mrtg data were written by the sync program to the root directory of that
server. No survivors.

Cheers,
U.


Re: MSG-3 (Meteosat 10) into service - Timetable for the Meteosat-8 and Meteosat-9 changes

Robert Moore
 

That's interesting Ian. I keep rapid scan running most of the time and have found the periods of shaking sufficiently infrequent not to interfere with my use of the service. Perhaps I don't watch it enough?

Robert

The change over to Met-9 for the Rapid Scan Service should improve things
although not until March. The existing Met-8 service is now poor with the
"shake" making AVI's of dubious benefit. I personally have stopped RSS for
the time being -- just occasionally checking for improvement.

Regards
Ian.


Re: MSG-3 (Meteosat 10) into service - Timetable for the Meteosat-8 and Meteosat-9 changes

Ian Deans
 

Thanks for the details -- most interesting.

The change over to Met-9 for the Rapid Scan Service should improve things although not until March. The existing Met-8 service is now poor with the "shake" making AVI's of dubious benefit. I personally have stopped RSS for the time being -- just occasionally checking for improvement.

Regards
Ian.

-----Original Message-----
From: David J Taylor
Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2012 12:07 PM
To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Cc: GEO-Subscribers ; SSL mailing list
Subject: [MSG-1] MSG-3 (Meteosat 10) into service - Timetable for the Meteosat-8 and Meteosat-9 changes

The start of MSG-3 parallel dissemination (EUMETCast-Europe users only) has
been announced for 18 December 2012. In addition, EUMETSAT has finalized
its planning for the forthcoming satellite relocations and service swaps.
In January 2013 MSG-3 will take over the 0� service and be renamed
Meteosat-10. To do this several spacecraft manoeuvres must be performed
during January and February 2013. See:

http://www.eumetsat.int/Home/Main/Satellites/SP_2012113011418367?l=en

You may also like to keep an eye on the Weather Satellites Reports group for
any changes or updates:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/weather-satellite-reports/

My own software is already handling live pre-release versions of the new
data, both here and at a couple of other sites. Please direct any questions
about my software to the SatSignal Yahoo group:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SatSignal/

All this in addition to the extra data coming from the new polar orbiting
satellite - Metop-B!

Cheers,
David
--


MSG-3 (Meteosat 10) into service - Timetable for the Meteosat-8 and Meteosat-9 changes

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

The start of MSG-3 parallel dissemination (EUMETCast-Europe users only) has been announced for 18 December 2012. In addition, EUMETSAT has finalized its planning for the forthcoming satellite relocations and service swaps. In January 2013 MSG-3 will take over the 0� service and be renamed Meteosat-10. To do this several spacecraft manoeuvres must be performed during January and February 2013. See:

http://www.eumetsat.int/Home/Main/Satellites/SP_2012113011418367?l=en

You may also like to keep an eye on the Weather Satellites Reports group for any changes or updates:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/weather-satellite-reports/

My own software is already handling live pre-release versions of the new data, both here and at a couple of other sites. Please direct any questions about my software to the SatSignal Yahoo group:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SatSignal/

All this in addition to the extra data coming from the new polar orbiting satellite - Metop-B!

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk


Re: Using the same EKU for decoding data from Europe Ku-Band and America C-Band ?

ep3sat <ep3sat@...>
 

Thanks David. I will contact Eumetsat for update on my licene.
Thanks Josh.

73

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "David J Taylor" <gm8arv@...> wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: ep3sat

Hello everybody,
I'm currently using EumetCast Europe Ku-Band downlink via Eurobird 9a
satellite but I'll soon moving to America region and I have to use C-band
downlink via NSS-806. I wonder if I have to order a new EKU or the one I
already have will do the work for me?
Anybody has a clue?
Thanks in advance

==========================================

As far as I know, your existing eToken will work as before, but you will
have access to a more limited range of services. In any case, you should
contact the EUMETSAT Help Desk to advise them of your move, as you may
require licencing from a different authority.

73,
David GM8ARV
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...


Re: Using the same EKU for decoding data from Europe Ku-Band and America C-Band ?

josh_kk1d <josh.rovero@...>
 

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "ep3sat" <ep3sat@...> wrote:

Hello everybody,
I'm currently using EumetCast Europe Ku-Band downlink via Eurobird 9a satellite but I'll soon moving to America region and I have to use C-band downlink via NSS-806. I wonder if I have to order a new EKU or the one I already have will do the work for me?
Anybody has a clue?
Don't know if the EKUs are different, but will say
that we recently switched from one of the recommended
receivers to the Prof Revolution DVB-S2 7500 USB, and
it works much better... we're on Atlantic Bird 3,
but know users on the other North America service
satellite as well.

Good luck with the move...


Re: Yellow T?

ihninger
 

Ian,
now it is running without troubles.
Thanks
Gerald

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "Ian Deans" <iandeans142@...> wrote:

Gerald,

This may be a problem that is known to arise with Windows Vista and Windows
7 ( and now Windows 8 !! ) and is well documented on David's site.

I have pasted the relative part below which will give you details and the
action required.

Hope it is of help.

http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/Dexatek/ip-address.html#route

Regards
Ian.

-----Original Message-----
From: ihninger
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 6:34 PM
To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MSG-1] Yellow T?

Hello
I have moved my Eumetcast system to Win7.
- DVB world is running and I can see data coming in (IP green).
- e-Token is running.
- Tellicast ist running but with yellow T. TSL announcement channel has
state "connecting" and no data are coming in (server address: not yet
received)

Any idea?
Gerald



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http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/glossary.htm
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No virus found in this message.
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Version: 2013.0.2793 / Virus Database: 2629/5899 - Release Date: 11/16/12


Re: Using the same EKU for decoding data from Europe Ku-Band and America C-Band ?

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

-----Original Message-----
From: ep3sat

Hello everybody,
I'm currently using EumetCast Europe Ku-Band downlink via Eurobird 9a satellite but I'll soon moving to America region and I have to use C-band downlink via NSS-806. I wonder if I have to order a new EKU or the one I already have will do the work for me?
Anybody has a clue?
Thanks in advance

==========================================

As far as I know, your existing eToken will work as before, but you will have access to a more limited range of services. In any case, you should contact the EUMETSAT Help Desk to advise them of your move, as you may require licencing from a different authority.

73,
David GM8ARV
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk


Using the same EKU for decoding data from Europe Ku-Band and America C-Band ?

ep3sat <ep3sat@...>
 

Hello everybody,
I'm currently using EumetCast Europe Ku-Band downlink via Eurobird 9a satellite but I'll soon moving to America region and I have to use C-band downlink via NSS-806. I wonder if I have to order a new EKU or the one I already have will do the work for me?
Anybody has a clue?
Thanks in advance


Re: Yellow T?

Ian Deans
 

Gerald, I should have mentioned in my last mail that you need to reboot after the command has been entered. That caught me out the first time I used it.

Regards
Ian.


Re: Yellow T?

Ian Deans
 

Gerald,

This may be a problem that is known to arise with Windows Vista and Windows 7 ( and now Windows 8 !! ) and is well documented on David's site.

I have pasted the relative part below which will give you details and the action required.

Hope it is of help.

http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/Dexatek/ip-address.html#route

Regards
Ian.

-----Original Message-----
From: ihninger
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 6:34 PM
To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MSG-1] Yellow T?

Hello
I have moved my Eumetcast system to Win7.
- DVB world is running and I can see data coming in (IP green).
- e-Token is running.
- Tellicast ist running but with yellow T. TSL announcement channel has state "connecting" and no data are coming in (server address: not yet received)

Any idea?
Gerald



------------------------------------

Unsure what a term means? Check the Glossary at:
http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/glossary.htm
Yahoo! Groups Links





-----
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2013.0.2793 / Virus Database: 2629/5899 - Release Date: 11/16/12


Yellow T?

ihninger
 

Hello
I have moved my Eumetcast system to Win7.
- DVB world is running and I can see data coming in (IP green).
- e-Token is running.
- Tellicast ist running but with yellow T. TSL announcement channel has state "connecting" and no data are coming in (server address: not yet received)

Any idea?
Gerald


Re: Eclipse

James Brown
 

On 17/11/2012 12:15, Geoffrey Gee wrote:
Hello James

How very kind of you to pick up my message and to send me your good wishes at this difficult time.

With regard to internet access I have my old line and wireless router It was only my Dish that I had to leave behind and so loose my direct contact with EUMETSAT


Very best wishes..................Geoffrey
Geoffrey - have a look at:

http://www.eumetsat.int/Home/Main/DataAccess/Internet/index.htm?l=en

Hope this might encourage you,

James


Re: Eclipse

Geoffrey Gee <geoffrey@...>
 

Hello James

How very kind of you to pick up my message and to send me your good wishes at this difficult time.

With regard to internet access I have my old line and wireless router It was only my Dish that I had to leave behind and so loose my direct contact with EUMETSAT


Very best wishes..................Geoffrey

From: James Brown
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 4:21 PM
To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Eclipse


On 16/11/2012 15:56, Geoffrey Gee wrote:
Alan

You may recognise me from the past. I was looking forward to looking at your images taken from an area I know well and which I have been able to cover regularly until; recently. Any ideas as to how I can get them to open The current link fails.

Unfortunately I have had recently to move from my flat to a care home and have had to leave my Dish MSG & METOP installation behind but have one of my computers with me . I am now reduced to being an old ordinary weather watcher !!!!! Any hints on useful sites to fill the hole left by my loss of my EUMETSAT data would be much appreciated

Cheers .......................Geoffrey
Hello Geoffrey,
My thoughts are with you at this difficult transition. Alan will no
doubt be along to support, but in the mean time can I also offer the
thought of you getting ftp access to some data files from Eumetsat - IF
your care home supports a broadband connection. Otherwise there are a
sites which would allow a browser access to some images if e.g. you had
a laptop with a dongle. Could perhaps you could let the group know what
amount of data you might be able to get via land-line connection at your
new address?

All the very best

James





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