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Re: New version of BUFRdisplay for NPP data, including Linux

Ian Deans
 

The previous mail I sent should of course read ---- The new NPP sounder data is displaying perfectly etc. Telephone call interrupted preparation.

Thanks
Ian.


Re: New version of BUFRdisplay for NPP data, including Linux

Ian Deans
 

Francis,

Many thanks for the update. The new NPP is displaying perfectly, but as it is coming in at times out of order, it is better to leave it for a few hours and then display it without gaps.
I shall be checking other data as well, but at the moment I cannot spend much time on my hobby due to caring duties.

Regards
Ian.

----- Original Message -----
From: "fbreame" <vf0123@btinternet.com>
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 9:47 AM
Subject: [MSG-1] New version of BUFRdisplay for NPP data, including Linux


For any BUFR enthusiasts, I now have a new version of BUFRdisplay available on my www site at www.elnath.org.uk (version 0.4.0).

The main changes allow it to handle the new ATMS and CrIS NPP files from EUMETCast. They includes extensive updates to the BUFR tables, which hopefully will also allow it to handle a greater range of BUFR data.

For the first time, I also have put up versions of it for Linux. I have developed it under Ubuntu 12.04, but I have not been able to test it under any other versions of Linux. I would therefore be very interested to lean if it will run on other Linux systems, and would be grateful for any feedback. There are 32- and 64-bit versions - the 32-bit version will not run under a 64-bit Linux, so you will need to use the correct one.

If this is successful, I will shortly issue Linux versions of BUFEextract.

Francis Breame


New version of BUFRdisplay for NPP data, including Linux

fbreame
 

For any BUFR enthusiasts, I now have a new version of BUFRdisplay available on my www site at www.elnath.org.uk (version 0.4.0).

The main changes allow it to handle the new ATMS and CrIS NPP files from EUMETCast. They includes extensive updates to the BUFR tables, which hopefully will also allow it to handle a greater range of BUFR data.

For the first time, I also have put up versions of it for Linux. I have developed it under Ubuntu 12.04, but I have not been able to test it under any other versions of Linux. I would therefore be very interested to lean if it will run on other Linux systems, and would be grateful for any feedback. There are 32- and 64-bit versions – the 32-bit version will not run under a 64-bit Linux, so you will need to use the correct one.

If this is successful, I will shortly issue Linux versions of BUFEextract.

Francis Breame


R: Yellow "T"

Vincenzo Mone
 

Hi Ian,

yes it was the Firewall.

Disabled it and it went pink.

Thanks for your help



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Da: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MSG-1@yahoogroups.com] Per conto di Ian
Deans
Inviato: sabato 29 settembre 2012 21:02
A: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Oggetto: Re: [MSG-1] Yellow "T"





Vincenzo, reading your mail I am assuming you are using the Technisat PCI
card. The most likely cause for a yellow "T" is a firewall issue.
Disable the firewall ( Windows or third party ) and see if that resolves the

problem.

If that works remember to enable the firewall again with the appropriate
exception.

Regards
Ian.

-----Original Message-----
From: Vincenzo Mone
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 7:12 PM
To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MSG-1%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [MSG-1] Yellow "T"

Hi Folks,
I am trying to setup my new Windows 7 64 Bit PC.
Installed the Drivers Card.
Installed and set the Setup4C to receive EuroBird 9.
I get the icon Green.
Installed then the EKU Software and the Tellicast software but when I run it
I get the Icon Stucked on Yellow.
Have made all the settings as described on David's website about
The Network configuration.
Please what am I missing?
Thanks in advance.


Re: Yellow "T"

Ian Deans
 

Vincenzo, reading your mail I am assuming you are using the Technisat PCI card. The most likely cause for a yellow "T" is a firewall issue. Disable the firewall ( Windows or third party ) and see if that resolves the problem.

If that works remember to enable the firewall again with the appropriate exception.

Regards
Ian.

-----Original Message-----
From: Vincenzo Mone
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 7:12 PM
To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MSG-1] Yellow "T"

Hi Folks,
I am trying to setup my new Windows 7 64 Bit PC.
Installed the Drivers Card.
Installed and set the Setup4C to receive EuroBird 9.
I get the icon Green.
Installed then the EKU Software and the Tellicast software but when I run it
I get the Icon Stucked on Yellow.
Have made all the settings as described on David's website about
The Network configuration.
Please what am I missing?
Thanks in advance.


Re: Yellow "T"

Chris Hughes <chughes@...>
 

Disable the comm port until you have the
Pink T, then when you have the pink
T re- enable comm port/s
Hope it helps

Regards

Chris.
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On 29 Sep 2012, at 19:12, "Vincenzo Mone" <vimone@alice.it<mailto:vimone@alice.it>> wrote:



Hi Folks,
I am trying to setup my new Windows 7 64 Bit PC.
Installed the Drivers Card.
Installed and set the Setup4C to receive EuroBird 9.
I get the icon Green.
Installed then the EKU Software and the Tellicast software but when I run it
I get the Icon Stucked on Yellow.
Have made all the settings as described on David's website about
The Network configuration.
Please what am I missing?
Thanks in advance.

73 de Enzo IK8OZV
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EasyLog PDA BetaTester
WinBollet BetaTester
D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
Skype: ik8ozv8520

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Yellow "T"

Vincenzo Mone
 

Hi Folks,
I am trying to setup my new Windows 7 64 Bit PC.
Installed the Drivers Card.
Installed and set the Setup4C to receive EuroBird 9.
I get the icon Green.
Installed then the EKU Software and the Tellicast software but when I run it
I get the Icon Stucked on Yellow.
Have made all the settings as described on David's website about
The Network configuration.
Please what am I missing?
Thanks in advance.




73 de Enzo IK8OZV
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WinBollet BetaTester
D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
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Re: Cold anomaly in NE Portugal

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Are you converting the data into an imprecise data type (such as 8bit int)?
Depending on the scaling you apply it could be that the values in that
region (~350K) are too high for the data type and so 'roll over' into a
very low value. This happens to us occasionally when calculating
reflectance in the twilight region.

/random guess

Cheers,
Simon
=====================================

Simon,

Likely the guys are using the images from the MSG Data Manager software. The thermal scaling applied to the images avoids wrap-around artefacts such as you mention.

Cheers,
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Re: Cold anomaly in NE Portugal

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Nick,

Unless you are using an inverted palette, black on a IR image
translates into hot, not cold. It looks to me as a small hot spot,
probably a fire as suggested by Terence, but it is odd that it shows up
best in Ch4 and much less so in Ch9.

Best regards - Alan S
================================

It's not really "odd". Channel 4 is most sensitive in the 3-5 um waveband, corresponding to temperatures around 600K (~327C) as found in fires. Channel 10 is optimised for radiation at 300K (~27C), that of the natural ground around us. See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-body_radiation

Note that one issue with channel 4 is that there is also significant reflected solar radiation from the Earth in that waveband, so that the image differs between day and night. Black hot is often used for thermal images, as that makes the colder clouds show up in white. Channel 4 is used for fire detection, perhaps using channel 10 as a reference to the expected background temperature so that hotspots can be detected.

I hope no-one has been injured in the fires.

Cheers,
David
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Re: Cold anomaly in NE Portugal

Simon Proud <simon.proud@...>
 

Are you converting the data into an imprecise data type (such as 8bit int)?
Depending on the scaling you apply it could be that the values in that
region (~350K) are too high for the data type and so 'roll over' into a
very low value. This happens to us occasionally when calculating
reflectance in the twilight region.

/random guess

Cheers,
Simon

On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 11:07 AM, nick <dctower@nildram.co.uk> wrote:

On 23/09/2012 08:34, Alan Sewards wrote:
Nick,

Unless you are using an inverted palette, black on a IR image
translates into hot, not cold. It looks to me as a small hot spot,
probably a fire as suggested by Terence, but it is odd that it shows up
best in Ch4 and much less so in Ch9.

Best regards - Alan S

On 22/09/2012 9:59 PM, nick wrote:
Evening all,

Any one else see the _very_ cold (black) area in NE Portugal in the last
few IR images? Very obvious in Channel 4 from about 18:30 to 19:15?

Also on several other wave-lengths but not so obvious.

Any ideas as to what/why?

Regards

Nick

Yes, not sure how I got hot/cold inverted :-)

Regards

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Re: Cold anomaly in NE Portugal

nick <dctower@...>
 

On 23/09/2012 08:34, Alan Sewards wrote:
Nick,

Unless you are using an inverted palette, black on a IR image
translates into hot, not cold. It looks to me as a small hot spot,
probably a fire as suggested by Terence, but it is odd that it shows up
best in Ch4 and much less so in Ch9.

Best regards - Alan S

On 22/09/2012 9:59 PM, nick wrote:
Evening all,

Any one else see the _very_ cold (black) area in NE Portugal in the last
few IR images? Very obvious in Channel 4 from about 18:30 to 19:15?

Also on several other wave-lengths but not so obvious.

Any ideas as to what/why?

Regards

Nick

Yes, not sure how I got hot/cold inverted :-)

Regards

Nick


Re: Cold anomaly in NE Portugal

Alan Sewards
 

Nick,

Unless you are using an inverted palette, black on a IR image translates into hot, not cold. It looks to me as a small hot spot, probably a fire as suggested by Terence, but it is odd that it shows up best in Ch4 and much less so in Ch9.

Best regards - Alan S

On 22/09/2012 9:59 PM, nick wrote:
Evening all,

Any one else see the _very_ cold (black) area in NE Portugal in the last
few IR images? Very obvious in Channel 4 from about 18:30 to 19:15?

Also on several other wave-lengths but not so obvious.

Any ideas as to what/why?

Regards

Nick

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Re: Cold anomaly in NE Portugal

Terence O'Hanlon Smith
 

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, nick <dctower@...> wrote:

Evening all,

Any one else see the _very_ cold (black) area in NE Portugal in the last
few IR images? Very obvious in Channel 4 from about 18:30 to 19:15?

Also on several other wave-lengths but not so obvious.

Any ideas as to what/why?

Regards

Nick
Nick,
it looks rather as though it's a quite serious fire near the border. It shows up very well on the fire-monitoring animation.
Regards,
Terence


Cold anomaly in NE Portugal

nick <dctower@...>
 

Evening all,

Any one else see the _very_ cold (black) area in NE Portugal in the last few IR images? Very obvious in Channel 4 from about 18:30 to 19:15?

Also on several other wave-lengths but not so obvious.

Any ideas as to what/why?

Regards

Nick


Re: No network

Tony EI8JK
 

Thanks Rob,
Yes I did know that, it's just that I think I'm on Hotbird but I can't find any sign of a signal just to the west of it but there is another strong signal to the east of it (Astra 19 deg?)
I have video now so I should find out tomorrow (no time to play tonight)
Tony.

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, rob <sat@...> wrote:

Tony,
You mentioned Hotbird a few times. Please note that you need Eurobird,
at 9 degrees east, not Hotbird! (Changed some years ago.
Rob.


Re: No network

R. Alblas
 

Tony,
You mentioned Hotbird a few times. Please note that you need Eurobird, at 9 degrees east, not Hotbird! (Changed some years ago.
Rob.


tony_ei8jk schreef op 2012-09-11 17:45:

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "David J Taylor" <gm8arv@...> wrote:

Hi David.

No I'm not sure I have the dish correctly pointed, that was the gist my
question ... is it possible to get an on screen signal strength with those
parameters from Hotbird ?

If you can, then I'm probably on Hotbird and need to play with the dish some
more.
If you can't then I can lock the dish and look for the problem indoors.

73, Tony.
=======================================

With an 85 cm dish here in Scotland, and one I suspect isn't 100% correctly
aligned, I get 65% quality and 8.5 dB (varying) SNR. That's on a SkyStar
2.6D card on a Windows XP PC, 4.4.1 drivers. Signal strength graph here:

http://www.satsignal.eu/mrtg/performance_eumetcast-snr.php

You may be nearer the edge of the footprint, and/or have a poorer alignment,
and your figures don't then seem unreasonable. In southern England I would
expect higher. Sometimes the network name does come up blank, so that's no
indication. If you are using a DVB World USB box with 64-bit drivers, there
are other issues which appear to allow video through but not data, hence my
question about which receiver and operating system you have.

73,
David
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Sorry David, I didn't pose my question very well. I wondered if the
signal strength/quality is derived from the digital stream as I note
that the Hotbird digital stream on 11977 MHz is a different symbol
rate & FEC.

I have an 80cm dish to a Skystar 2 internal card and Eumetcast V4 software.
PC is a 2.6 GHz Celeron running XP SP3 and I'm in IO51dn

I haven't tried video as I didn't load the TV software, but I suppose
that would immediately tell me which satellite I'm on. I'll maybe try
that later.

73, Tony





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Re: No network

Tony EI8JK
 

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "David J Taylor" <gm8arv@...> wrote:

Hi David.

No I'm not sure I have the dish correctly pointed, that was the gist my
question ... is it possible to get an on screen signal strength with those
parameters from Hotbird ?

If you can, then I'm probably on Hotbird and need to play with the dish some
more.
If you can't then I can lock the dish and look for the problem indoors.

73, Tony.
=======================================

With an 85 cm dish here in Scotland, and one I suspect isn't 100% correctly
aligned, I get 65% quality and 8.5 dB (varying) SNR. That's on a SkyStar
2.6D card on a Windows XP PC, 4.4.1 drivers. Signal strength graph here:

http://www.satsignal.eu/mrtg/performance_eumetcast-snr.php

You may be nearer the edge of the footprint, and/or have a poorer alignment,
and your figures don't then seem unreasonable. In southern England I would
expect higher. Sometimes the network name does come up blank, so that's no
indication. If you are using a DVB World USB box with 64-bit drivers, there
are other issues which appear to allow video through but not data, hence my
question about which receiver and operating system you have.

73,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...
Sorry David, I didn't pose my question very well. I wondered if the signal strength/quality is derived from the digital stream as I note that the Hotbird digital stream on 11977 MHz is a different symbol rate & FEC.

I have an 80cm dish to a Skystar 2 internal card and Eumetcast V4 software.
PC is a 2.6 GHz Celeron running XP SP3 and I'm in IO51dn

I haven't tried video as I didn't load the TV software, but I suppose that would immediately tell me which satellite I'm on. I'll maybe try that later.

73, Tony


Re: No network

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Hi David.

No I'm not sure I have the dish correctly pointed, that was the gist my question ... is it possible to get an on screen signal strength with those parameters from Hotbird ?

If you can, then I'm probably on Hotbird and need to play with the dish some more.
If you can't then I can lock the dish and look for the problem indoors.

73, Tony.
=======================================

With an 85 cm dish here in Scotland, and one I suspect isn't 100% correctly aligned, I get 65% quality and 8.5 dB (varying) SNR. That's on a SkyStar 2.6D card on a Windows XP PC, 4.4.1 drivers. Signal strength graph here:

http://www.satsignal.eu/mrtg/performance_eumetcast-snr.php

You may be nearer the edge of the footprint, and/or have a poorer alignment, and your figures don't then seem unreasonable. In southern England I would expect higher. Sometimes the network name does come up blank, so that's no indication. If you are using a DVB World USB box with 64-bit drivers, there are other issues which appear to allow video through but not data, hence my question about which receiver and operating system you have.

73,
David
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Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk


Re: No network

Tony EI8JK
 

Hi David.

No I'm not sure I have the dish correctly pointed, that was the gist my question ... is it possible to get an on screen signal strength with those parameters from Hotbird ?

If you can, then I'm probably on Hotbird and need to play with the dish some more.
If you can't then I can lock the dish and look for the problem indoors.

73, Tony.

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "David J Taylor" <gm8arv@...> wrote:

============================================

Tony,

The parameters look correct, but are you sure the dish is correctly pointed?
Have you set up the required PIDs? What receiver are you using? What
operating system?

Cheers,
David
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Re: No network

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Hi the group
After an absence of several years I am trying to get my system up and running again.
So far without success I hasten to add and was wondering if I am on the wrong satellite.
I have loaded the new software and on "Transponder Status" I have Eurobird 9 with transponder 11977 MHz, symbol rate 27500, FEC 3/4 and horizontal pol.
Without a final tweak I have sig quality of 50% and a SNR of 6.0
My problem is that the Network box says "Acquiring" for a few seconds and then says "No Information" and no data and a yellow T

Is it possible to get a signal on Hotbird using those parameters ?
Or am I doing something wrong ?
============================================

Tony,

The parameters look correct, but are you sure the dish is correctly pointed? Have you set up the required PIDs? What receiver are you using? What operating system?

Cheers,
David
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Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk

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