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Re: No network

Tony EI8JK
 

Just updating.
Debbie at Eumetsat read about my woes on this forum and realised I was using old software, so she sent me the latest version (without being asked, I was most impressed .. thanks Debbie)
Anyway, the updated software allowed me to get a mediocre intermittent signal from Eurobird 9 and noting that I am right on the edge of the footprint, I bought 110 cm dish to replace my 80 cm
I now have 65% signal and quality and my hard drive is filling up nicely.
As I want to run it over my network, tomorrow's job is to get Tellicast to save all the data in an accessible directory away from c:/program files.

Things have changed a lot since I was last active on Eumetcast hopefully my brain will soon catch up.

Tony, EI8JK

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "David J Taylor" <gm8arv@...> wrote:

Hi David.

No I'm not sure I have the dish correctly pointed, that was the gist my
question ... is it possible to get an on screen signal strength with those
parameters from Hotbird ?

If you can, then I'm probably on Hotbird and need to play with the dish some
more.
If you can't then I can lock the dish and look for the problem indoors.

73, Tony.
=======================================

With an 85 cm dish here in Scotland, and one I suspect isn't 100% correctly
aligned, I get 65% quality and 8.5 dB (varying) SNR. That's on a SkyStar
2.6D card on a Windows XP PC, 4.4.1 drivers. Signal strength graph here:

http://www.satsignal.eu/mrtg/performance_eumetcast-snr.php

You may be nearer the edge of the footprint, and/or have a poorer alignment,
and your figures don't then seem unreasonable. In southern England I would
expect higher. Sometimes the network name does come up blank, so that's no
indication. If you are using a DVB World USB box with 64-bit drivers, there
are other issues which appear to allow video through but not data, hence my
question about which receiver and operating system you have.

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Re: New version of BUFRdisplay for NPP data, including Linux

Simon Proud <simon.proud@...>
 

No worries, happy to help - linux compatibility is a major headache.
Today I tried the windows version (with -l) and it works great! Loads with
no problems and it works with the majority of BUFR files we produce, aside
from the NWC-SAF files that we talked about before.
FYI I list below the NWC-SAF files that work and don't work. Don't think
this is me asking for more stuff (!) but I thought you'd like to know, in
case anyone else asks about them:
AMA T-ridge: Works, displays data nicely.
AMA WV strip: displays message 'not supported BUFR format'
RDT: Program hangs on opening the file.
ASII IRAMV and WVAMV: Both load but simply show a lat/lon grid of points on
map generation. I think this is because it is 'location' data (lots of data
fields, one for each point) but each point is also a vector (with U + V
components). Saving to csv file works perfectly, though.

Thanks again for the work you've put in - we all really appreciate it here
in Copenhagen!
Hope you've enjoyed the weekend,
Simon

On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:09 PM, fbreame <vf0123@btinternet.com> wrote:

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--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, Simon Proud <simon.proud@...> wrote:

Hello Francis,
I just tested this on one of our linux systems (Ubuntu 11.10, 64bit) and
unfortunately it does not run.I get an error stating that GLIBC_2.14 was
not found. A quick google shows that this is because Ubuntu 12.04 uses an
updated GLIBC that is not compatible with older distributions.
Is there any way to remove or down-version that depedancy?

Cheers,
Simon
Thanks for the feedback, Simon - it's just what I was after, as I was
afraid something like this would happen. I would like to try and work
around this business of incompatible system libraries, having been bitten
by it already. I've a few other jobs to finish first, but will have a look
at it asap.

By the way, if you are using the Windows version and wondered what
happened to the 'Locations' button I put in for you earlier this year, it's
now activated by a -l (ell) command line option. I felt that it might not
be generally useful and might confuse things.

Francis



Space sickness

Alan Banks <alan@...>
 

Following receipt of this from EUMETSAT
News information:
***Meteosat-8 RSS Service only***
From 11:00 RSS repeat cycles were disseminated with non-nominal
quality until further notice.

I viewed my animations. There's quite a north south wobble of the image.
Wonder whether Met 8 has been clouted or just some motors/thrusters gone awry.

Alan


Re: New version of BUFRdisplay for NPP data, including Linux

fbreame
 

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, Simon Proud <simon.proud@...> wrote:

Hello Francis,
I just tested this on one of our linux systems (Ubuntu 11.10, 64bit) and
unfortunately it does not run.I get an error stating that GLIBC_2.14 was
not found. A quick google shows that this is because Ubuntu 12.04 uses an
updated GLIBC that is not compatible with older distributions.
Is there any way to remove or down-version that depedancy?

Cheers,
Simon
Thanks for the feedback, Simon - it's just what I was after, as I was afraid something like this would happen. I would like to try and work around this business of incompatible system libraries, having been bitten by it already. I've a few other jobs to finish first, but will have a look at it asap.

By the way, if you are using the Windows version and wondered what happened to the 'Locations' button I put in for you earlier this year, it's now activated by a -l (ell) command line option. I felt that it might not be generally useful and might confuse things.

Francis


Re: New version of BUFRdisplay for NPP data, including Linux

Simon Proud <simon.proud@...>
 

Hello Francis,
I just tested this on one of our linux systems (Ubuntu 11.10, 64bit) and
unfortunately it does not run.I get an error stating that GLIBC_2.14 was
not found. A quick google shows that this is because Ubuntu 12.04 uses an
updated GLIBC that is not compatible with older distributions.
Is there any way to remove or down-version that depedancy?

Cheers,
Simon

On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:47 AM, fbreame <vf0123@btinternet.com> wrote:

**


For any BUFR enthusiasts, I now have a new version of BUFRdisplay
available on my www site at www.elnath.org.uk (version 0.4.0).

The main changes allow it to handle the new ATMS and CrIS NPP files from
EUMETCast. They includes extensive updates to the BUFR tables, which
hopefully will also allow it to handle a greater range of BUFR data.

For the first time, I also have put up versions of it for Linux. I have
developed it under Ubuntu 12.04, but I have not been able to test it under
any other versions of Linux. I would therefore be very interested to lean
if it will run on other Linux systems, and would be grateful for any
feedback. There are 32- and 64-bit versions – the 32-bit version will not
run under a 64-bit Linux, so you will need to use the correct one.

If this is successful, I will shortly issue Linux versions of BUFEextract.

Francis Breame



Re: New version of BUFRdisplay for NPP data, including Linux

fbreame
 

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "Ian Deans" <iandeans142@...> wrote:

Francis,

Many thanks for the update. The new NPP is displaying perfectly, but as it
is coming in at times out of order, it is better to leave it for a few hours
and then display it without gaps.
I shall be checking other data as well, but at the moment I cannot spend
much time on my hobby due to caring duties.

Regards
Ian.
Glad to hear that it's working, Ian. I apologise for the delay, but it's been a busy summer!

Francis


Re: New version of BUFRdisplay for NPP data, including Linux

Ian Deans
 

The previous mail I sent should of course read ---- The new NPP sounder data is displaying perfectly etc. Telephone call interrupted preparation.

Thanks
Ian.


Re: New version of BUFRdisplay for NPP data, including Linux

Ian Deans
 

Francis,

Many thanks for the update. The new NPP is displaying perfectly, but as it is coming in at times out of order, it is better to leave it for a few hours and then display it without gaps.
I shall be checking other data as well, but at the moment I cannot spend much time on my hobby due to caring duties.

Regards
Ian.

----- Original Message -----
From: "fbreame" <vf0123@btinternet.com>
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 9:47 AM
Subject: [MSG-1] New version of BUFRdisplay for NPP data, including Linux


For any BUFR enthusiasts, I now have a new version of BUFRdisplay available on my www site at www.elnath.org.uk (version 0.4.0).

The main changes allow it to handle the new ATMS and CrIS NPP files from EUMETCast. They includes extensive updates to the BUFR tables, which hopefully will also allow it to handle a greater range of BUFR data.

For the first time, I also have put up versions of it for Linux. I have developed it under Ubuntu 12.04, but I have not been able to test it under any other versions of Linux. I would therefore be very interested to lean if it will run on other Linux systems, and would be grateful for any feedback. There are 32- and 64-bit versions - the 32-bit version will not run under a 64-bit Linux, so you will need to use the correct one.

If this is successful, I will shortly issue Linux versions of BUFEextract.

Francis Breame


New version of BUFRdisplay for NPP data, including Linux

fbreame
 

For any BUFR enthusiasts, I now have a new version of BUFRdisplay available on my www site at www.elnath.org.uk (version 0.4.0).

The main changes allow it to handle the new ATMS and CrIS NPP files from EUMETCast. They includes extensive updates to the BUFR tables, which hopefully will also allow it to handle a greater range of BUFR data.

For the first time, I also have put up versions of it for Linux. I have developed it under Ubuntu 12.04, but I have not been able to test it under any other versions of Linux. I would therefore be very interested to lean if it will run on other Linux systems, and would be grateful for any feedback. There are 32- and 64-bit versions – the 32-bit version will not run under a 64-bit Linux, so you will need to use the correct one.

If this is successful, I will shortly issue Linux versions of BUFEextract.

Francis Breame


R: Yellow "T"

Vincenzo Mone
 

Hi Ian,

yes it was the Firewall.

Disabled it and it went pink.

Thanks for your help



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Da: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MSG-1@yahoogroups.com] Per conto di Ian
Deans
Inviato: sabato 29 settembre 2012 21:02
A: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Oggetto: Re: [MSG-1] Yellow "T"





Vincenzo, reading your mail I am assuming you are using the Technisat PCI
card. The most likely cause for a yellow "T" is a firewall issue.
Disable the firewall ( Windows or third party ) and see if that resolves the

problem.

If that works remember to enable the firewall again with the appropriate
exception.

Regards
Ian.

-----Original Message-----
From: Vincenzo Mone
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 7:12 PM
To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MSG-1%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [MSG-1] Yellow "T"

Hi Folks,
I am trying to setup my new Windows 7 64 Bit PC.
Installed the Drivers Card.
Installed and set the Setup4C to receive EuroBird 9.
I get the icon Green.
Installed then the EKU Software and the Tellicast software but when I run it
I get the Icon Stucked on Yellow.
Have made all the settings as described on David's website about
The Network configuration.
Please what am I missing?
Thanks in advance.


Re: Yellow "T"

Ian Deans
 

Vincenzo, reading your mail I am assuming you are using the Technisat PCI card. The most likely cause for a yellow "T" is a firewall issue. Disable the firewall ( Windows or third party ) and see if that resolves the problem.

If that works remember to enable the firewall again with the appropriate exception.

Regards
Ian.

-----Original Message-----
From: Vincenzo Mone
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 7:12 PM
To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MSG-1] Yellow "T"

Hi Folks,
I am trying to setup my new Windows 7 64 Bit PC.
Installed the Drivers Card.
Installed and set the Setup4C to receive EuroBird 9.
I get the icon Green.
Installed then the EKU Software and the Tellicast software but when I run it
I get the Icon Stucked on Yellow.
Have made all the settings as described on David's website about
The Network configuration.
Please what am I missing?
Thanks in advance.


Re: Yellow "T"

Chris Hughes <chughes@...>
 

Disable the comm port until you have the
Pink T, then when you have the pink
T re- enable comm port/s
Hope it helps

Regards

Chris.
Visit my weather site
www.gw0dqw-wales.co.uk<http://www.gw0dqw-wales.co.uk>

On 29 Sep 2012, at 19:12, "Vincenzo Mone" <vimone@alice.it<mailto:vimone@alice.it>> wrote:



Hi Folks,
I am trying to setup my new Windows 7 64 Bit PC.
Installed the Drivers Card.
Installed and set the Setup4C to receive EuroBird 9.
I get the icon Green.
Installed then the EKU Software and the Tellicast software but when I run it
I get the Icon Stucked on Yellow.
Have made all the settings as described on David's website about
The Network configuration.
Please what am I missing?
Thanks in advance.

73 de Enzo IK8OZV
EasyLog 5 BetaTester
EasyLog PDA BetaTester
WinBollet BetaTester
D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
Skype: ik8ozv8520

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Yellow "T"

Vincenzo Mone
 

Hi Folks,
I am trying to setup my new Windows 7 64 Bit PC.
Installed the Drivers Card.
Installed and set the Setup4C to receive EuroBird 9.
I get the icon Green.
Installed then the EKU Software and the Tellicast software but when I run it
I get the Icon Stucked on Yellow.
Have made all the settings as described on David's website about
The Network configuration.
Please what am I missing?
Thanks in advance.




73 de Enzo IK8OZV
EasyLog 5 BetaTester
EasyLog PDA BetaTester
WinBollet BetaTester
D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
Skype: ik8ozv8520




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Re: Cold anomaly in NE Portugal

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Are you converting the data into an imprecise data type (such as 8bit int)?
Depending on the scaling you apply it could be that the values in that
region (~350K) are too high for the data type and so 'roll over' into a
very low value. This happens to us occasionally when calculating
reflectance in the twilight region.

/random guess

Cheers,
Simon
=====================================

Simon,

Likely the guys are using the images from the MSG Data Manager software. The thermal scaling applied to the images avoids wrap-around artefacts such as you mention.

Cheers,
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Re: Cold anomaly in NE Portugal

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Nick,

Unless you are using an inverted palette, black on a IR image
translates into hot, not cold. It looks to me as a small hot spot,
probably a fire as suggested by Terence, but it is odd that it shows up
best in Ch4 and much less so in Ch9.

Best regards - Alan S
================================

It's not really "odd". Channel 4 is most sensitive in the 3-5 um waveband, corresponding to temperatures around 600K (~327C) as found in fires. Channel 10 is optimised for radiation at 300K (~27C), that of the natural ground around us. See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-body_radiation

Note that one issue with channel 4 is that there is also significant reflected solar radiation from the Earth in that waveband, so that the image differs between day and night. Black hot is often used for thermal images, as that makes the colder clouds show up in white. Channel 4 is used for fire detection, perhaps using channel 10 as a reference to the expected background temperature so that hotspots can be detected.

I hope no-one has been injured in the fires.

Cheers,
David
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Re: Cold anomaly in NE Portugal

Simon Proud <simon.proud@...>
 

Are you converting the data into an imprecise data type (such as 8bit int)?
Depending on the scaling you apply it could be that the values in that
region (~350K) are too high for the data type and so 'roll over' into a
very low value. This happens to us occasionally when calculating
reflectance in the twilight region.

/random guess

Cheers,
Simon

On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 11:07 AM, nick <dctower@nildram.co.uk> wrote:

On 23/09/2012 08:34, Alan Sewards wrote:
Nick,

Unless you are using an inverted palette, black on a IR image
translates into hot, not cold. It looks to me as a small hot spot,
probably a fire as suggested by Terence, but it is odd that it shows up
best in Ch4 and much less so in Ch9.

Best regards - Alan S

On 22/09/2012 9:59 PM, nick wrote:
Evening all,

Any one else see the _very_ cold (black) area in NE Portugal in the last
few IR images? Very obvious in Channel 4 from about 18:30 to 19:15?

Also on several other wave-lengths but not so obvious.

Any ideas as to what/why?

Regards

Nick

Yes, not sure how I got hot/cold inverted :-)

Regards

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Re: Cold anomaly in NE Portugal

nick <dctower@...>
 

On 23/09/2012 08:34, Alan Sewards wrote:
Nick,

Unless you are using an inverted palette, black on a IR image
translates into hot, not cold. It looks to me as a small hot spot,
probably a fire as suggested by Terence, but it is odd that it shows up
best in Ch4 and much less so in Ch9.

Best regards - Alan S

On 22/09/2012 9:59 PM, nick wrote:
Evening all,

Any one else see the _very_ cold (black) area in NE Portugal in the last
few IR images? Very obvious in Channel 4 from about 18:30 to 19:15?

Also on several other wave-lengths but not so obvious.

Any ideas as to what/why?

Regards

Nick

Yes, not sure how I got hot/cold inverted :-)

Regards

Nick


Re: Cold anomaly in NE Portugal

Alan Sewards
 

Nick,

Unless you are using an inverted palette, black on a IR image translates into hot, not cold. It looks to me as a small hot spot, probably a fire as suggested by Terence, but it is odd that it shows up best in Ch4 and much less so in Ch9.

Best regards - Alan S

On 22/09/2012 9:59 PM, nick wrote:
Evening all,

Any one else see the _very_ cold (black) area in NE Portugal in the last
few IR images? Very obvious in Channel 4 from about 18:30 to 19:15?

Also on several other wave-lengths but not so obvious.

Any ideas as to what/why?

Regards

Nick

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Re: Cold anomaly in NE Portugal

Terence O'Hanlon Smith
 

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, nick <dctower@...> wrote:

Evening all,

Any one else see the _very_ cold (black) area in NE Portugal in the last
few IR images? Very obvious in Channel 4 from about 18:30 to 19:15?

Also on several other wave-lengths but not so obvious.

Any ideas as to what/why?

Regards

Nick
Nick,
it looks rather as though it's a quite serious fire near the border. It shows up very well on the fire-monitoring animation.
Regards,
Terence


Cold anomaly in NE Portugal

nick <dctower@...>
 

Evening all,

Any one else see the _very_ cold (black) area in NE Portugal in the last few IR images? Very obvious in Channel 4 from about 18:30 to 19:15?

Also on several other wave-lengths but not so obvious.

Any ideas as to what/why?

Regards

Nick

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