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Re: FSD Hourly

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Hello Alan

I take your point re the target_directory line and you may be correct about
that ( I must test that ) but the [ EUMETSAT DATA Channel 1] and [EUMETSAT
DATA Channel 4] are case sensitive and in both cases the word DATA should
read "Data"

To double check I have just changed my [EUMETCAST Data Channel 2] to
[EUMETCAST DATA channel 2] and as expected the data flow stopped.

Regards
Ian.
Thanks for testing that, Ian. I hope that I had advised using copy and paste rather than guessed transcriptions! Don't forget that this program also has a UNIX version, so best to be letter-perfect on names and cases.

Cheers,
David
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Re: missing key - complete data stall :(

Ulrich G. Kliegis
 

Today I got a question from a Eumetcast user "suffering" from yellow
T. The cause: The wind did blow his disc to SKY at 13 east. Etoken can
not change the colour of your T, but the wind can...
Rob,
your guess - or advice - was right. I have this monstrous toroidal mirror on
the balcony, exposed to our favourite strong wind side of the house. It is
mounted on two very massive concrete slabs, each weighing more than
hundred kilogramms, and they surely did not move a millimeter despite the
~60 knots of SW wind we had in some gusts here.

The signal appeared and disappeared in a tidal time pattern over two days -
characteristic for a just slight displacement from the desired direction. Now it
was clear, the air had been to fast.

The mirror is mounted on a sort of tripod, with a massive foreleg and some
less convincingly looking hind-legs. These are connected with bolts, also
bolted to the concrete slabs. Well, nothing had really moved from its place,
but when I pushed the mirror moderately from NE, against the direction from
where the wind had worked, the whole setup jumped back a centimeter or
two at its outer diameter, like if some tension in the tripod had been
released. Now, it sits in a stable position again, but I will alter the column on
which it sits to a massive pole(stainless steel tube), welded to a plate that
will be bolted to the concrete slabs, and stabilized with some angles
minimizing any lateral motion.

I'll have to think again about installing this utility to record the signal strength
over time. Adding another step of complexity kept me off so far, but ...

Thanks again, and stay tuned!

Cheers,
U.

Re: FSD Hourly

Ian Deans
 

Hello Alan

I take your point re the target_directory line and you may be correct about
that ( I must test that ) but the [ EUMETSAT DATA Channel 1] and [EUMETSAT
DATA Channel 4] are case sensitive and in both cases the word DATA should
read "Data"

To double check I have just changed my [EUMETCAST Data Channel 2] to
[EUMETCAST DATA channel 2] and as expected the data flow stopped.



Regards
Ian.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Sewards
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 8:59 PM
To: MSG-1@...
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] FSD Hourly

Hi all,
Ian, I had always understood that filenames in Windows and DOS were
case insensitive, so your explanation might not be correct.

I offer an alternative with a question. MSG DM only has one box for the
location of received files. Usually it points to the \T-Systems\Business
TV-IP\received folder, but if you have followed David's advice and used
separate received filenames for the four channels, how do you tell the
Manager of the four filenames? In my system, I used \received for
Channels 1, 2 and 3, and when I wanted to get Channel 4, I followed the
then current advice and called it\received\Channel 4. But I cannot find
anywhere where I have pointed the MSG DM to this folder. I have used
separate received folders for the METOP, AHVRR and RSS channels as the
data for these is handled by separate programs with separate Setup
boxes. I am successfully receiving the 1 hour data so somehow it is
finding its way into MSG DM!

Best regards - Alan S

On 10/02/2011 9:08 PM, Ian Deans wrote:
Geoffrey, the first two items listed in your recv-channels.ini have a
small
"d" in the word data and I suspect that you will therefore not be getting
any data from channel one and four.

The word Data should have a capital "D" as shown in your channel 2 and 3.
If you amend this I suspect that you will start to receive the hourly FSD.

Hope that helps.

Regards
Ian.

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoffrey Gee
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:33 PM
To: MSG-1@... <mailto:MSG-1%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [MSG-1] FSD Hourly

David up

Thanks again for help, I regret that I can still not get the hourly FSD.
I have rechecked again including the PID. 0x01F4 appears in the Techni Sat
active PID list and in MSGM set up.

Copy of my rec-channels.ini below...............................what next
?.................Regards.......Geoffrey

# recv-channels.ini - TelliCast+TelliVision Client channel configuration
file
#
# 2-4-3 10-10-2005
#

[EUMETSAT DATA Channel 1]
target_directory=C:&#92;received&#92;data Channel 1

[EUMETSAT DATA Channel 4]
target_directory=C:&#92;received&#92;data Channel 4

[EUMETSAT Data Channel 2]
target_directory=C:&#92;received&#92;Data Channel 2

[EUMETSAT Data Channel 3]
target_directory=C:&#92;received&#92;Data Channel 3

Re: FSD Hourly

Alan Sewards
 

Hi all,
Ian, I had always understood that filenames in Windows and DOS were case insensitive, so your explanation might not be correct.

I offer an alternative with a question. MSG DM only has one box for the location of received files. Usually it points to the &#92;T-Systems&#92;Business TV-IP&#92;received folder, but if you have followed David's advice and used separate received filenames for the four channels, how do you tell the Manager of the four filenames? In my system, I used &#92;received for Channels 1, 2 and 3, and when I wanted to get Channel 4, I followed the then current advice and called it&#92;received&#92;Channel 4. But I cannot find anywhere where I have pointed the MSG DM to this folder. I have used separate received folders for the METOP, AHVRR and RSS channels as the data for these is handled by separate programs with separate Setup boxes. I am successfully receiving the 1 hour data so somehow it is finding its way into MSG DM!

Best regards - Alan S

On 10/02/2011 9:08 PM, Ian Deans wrote:
Geoffrey, the first two items listed in your recv-channels.ini have a small
"d" in the word data and I suspect that you will therefore not be getting
any data from channel one and four.

The word Data should have a capital "D" as shown in your channel 2 and 3.
If you amend this I suspect that you will start to receive the hourly FSD.

Hope that helps.

Regards
Ian.

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoffrey Gee
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:33 PM
To: MSG-1@... <mailto:MSG-1%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [MSG-1] FSD Hourly

David up

Thanks again for help, I regret that I can still not get the hourly FSD.
I have rechecked again including the PID. 0x01F4 appears in the Techni Sat
active PID list and in MSGM set up.

Copy of my rec-channels.ini below...............................what next
?.................Regards.......Geoffrey

# recv-channels.ini - TelliCast+TelliVision Client channel configuration
file
#
# 2-4-3 10-10-2005
#

[EUMETSAT DATA Channel 1]
target_directory=C:&#92;received&#92;data Channel 1

[EUMETSAT DATA Channel 4]
target_directory=C:&#92;received&#92;data Channel 4

[EUMETSAT Data Channel 2]
target_directory=C:&#92;received&#92;Data Channel 2

[EUMETSAT Data Channel 3]
target_directory=C:&#92;received&#92;Data Channel 3

--
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email: alan@...
web site: http://asewards.free.fr

Re: FSD Hourly

Ian Deans
 

Geoffrey, the first two items listed in your recv-channels.ini have a small "d" in the word data and I suspect that you will therefore not be getting any data from channel one and four.

The word Data should have a capital "D" as shown in your channel 2 and 3. If you amend this I suspect that you will start to receive the hourly FSD.

Hope that helps.

Regards
Ian.

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoffrey Gee
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:33 PM
To: MSG-1@...
Subject: [MSG-1] FSD Hourly

David up

Thanks again for help, I regret that I can still not get the hourly FSD.
I have rechecked again including the PID. 0x01F4 appears in the Techni Sat active PID list and in MSGM set up.

Copy of my rec-channels.ini below...............................what next ?.................Regards.......Geoffrey

# recv-channels.ini - TelliCast+TelliVision Client channel configuration file
#
# 2-4-3 10-10-2005
#

[EUMETSAT DATA Channel 1]
target_directory=C:&#92;received&#92;data Channel 1

[EUMETSAT DATA Channel 4]
target_directory=C:&#92;received&#92;data Channel 4



[EUMETSAT Data Channel 2]
target_directory=C:&#92;received&#92;Data Channel 2

[EUMETSAT Data Channel 3]
target_directory=C:&#92;received&#92;Data Channel 3

Re: FSD Hourly

Douglas Deans
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoffrey Gee
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 5:37 PM
To: MSG-1@...
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] FSD Hourly

Hello Douglas

Many thanks for your assistance. I have already checked with Eumaetsat that
I am registered for the 1 huorly service. See below.

Regards.............Geoffrey


OK many thanks Geoffrey. I have tried to follow back all the mails in this
thread to see what has been recommended.
I don't see any reference to checking the setting in MSG DM for Hourly FSD.
So just to be sure. In MSG DM select 'Setup', then 'Channel Selection' then
'FSD' and make sure that the 'Hourly FSD' box is ticked at the bottom.
My apologies if that is already done but I don't see any mails asking you
to check it.

Regards
Douglas.

Re: FSD Hourly

geoffreygee90
 

Hello Douglas

Many thanks for your assistance. I have already checked with Eumaetsat that I am registered for the 1 huorly service. See below.

Regards.............Geoffrey



Dear Geoffrey,

I'm afraid that you are already receiving the most frequent GOES & MT-SAT data which we disseminate (i.e. 1-hourly).

Please have a look at your EO Portal account to check which data you are receiving (https://eoportal.eumetsat.int/userMgmt/login.faces, your userID is "GEOGEE").
You can request additional data via your EO Portal account.

More details on our products can also be found in the Product Navigator:
http://www.eumetsat.int/Home/Main/DataProducts/ProductNavigator/index.htm

Please let me know if you have further questions.

Kind regards,


Inse Warich

EUMETSAT User Service Helpdesk
Eumetsat-Allee 1
64295 Darmstadt
GERMANY

Tel. +49 6151 807 377
Fax. +49 6151 807 379
www.eumetsat.int

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoffrey Gee [mailto:no-reply@...]
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 5:46 PM
To: e-mail OPS
Subject: Subject: Web Feedback (OPS)


As a regular user I obtain both MSG and FSD data I would like to obtain the latter at more frequent hourly intervals. Is this possible and how do I procede.

Thank you............Geoffrey

Title : Mr.
Family Name : Gee
First Name : Geoffrey
Company :
Street : 34 Andrews Lodge Tylers Close
Post code : SO41 9AX
City : Lymingtin
Country : UK
Telephone : +1590674803
Fax :
Email : geogee@...

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Re: FSD Hourly

Douglas Deans
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoffrey Gee
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:33 PM
To: MSG-1@...
Subject: [MSG-1] FSD Hourly

David up

Thanks again for help, I regret that I can still not get the hourly FSD.
I have rechecked again including the PID. 0x01F4 appears in the Techni Sat
active PID list and in MSGM set up.

Copy of my rec-channels.ini below...............................what next
?.................Regards.......Geoffrey



Hello Geoffrey,

I assume you have actually applied for the data.
The additional FSD data to add to the 3 hourly is on a different channel and
you need to request it from Eumetsat (can be done on-line).

Regards
Douglas.

FSD Hourly

geoffreygee90
 

David up

Thanks again for help, I regret that I can still not get the hourly FSD.
I have rechecked again including the PID. 0x01F4 appears in the Techni Sat active PID list and in MSGM set up.

Copy of my rec-channels.ini below...............................what next ?.................Regards.......Geoffrey

# recv-channels.ini - TelliCast+TelliVision Client channel configuration file
#
# 2-4-3 10-10-2005
#

[EUMETSAT DATA Channel 1]
target_directory=C:&#92;received&#92;data Channel 1

[EUMETSAT DATA Channel 4]
target_directory=C:&#92;received&#92;data Channel 4



[EUMETSAT Data Channel 2]
target_directory=C:&#92;received&#92;Data Channel 2

[EUMETSAT Data Channel 3]
target_directory=C:&#92;received&#92;Data Channel 3


# target_directory: Directory for received files. The target_directory name
# is relative to the current working directory.
# syntax: target_directory=<directory>
# default: received

tmp_directory=receiving/tmp/files
# tmp_directory: If this parameter is given tc-recv will internally
# store/compose all received files within the given directory and
# later move them to the target directory.
# While this option requires an additional move operation it
# guarantees that all files appearing in the target directory are
# fully written to the file system.
# syntax: tmp_directory=<directory>
# default: undefined=off, but default value may be redefined in
# recv.ini




# Section per channel or channel group identified by channel name (wildcard
# "*" allowed at end of name)

#activate_ftp_forwarding=1
# activate_ftp_forwarding: Will activate FTP forwarding for the correctly
# received files according to the recv.ini [ftp_forwarding]
# parameters.
# syntax: activate_ftp_forwarding=<value of range>
# range: 0/1
# default: 0=off

#tmp_directory=receiving/tmp/files
# tmp_directory: If this parameter is given tc-recv will internally
# store/compose all received files within the given directory and
# later move them to the target directory.
# While this option requires an additional move operation it
# guarantees that all files appearing in the target directory are
# fully written to the file system.
# syntax: tmp_directory=<directory>
# default: undefined=off, but default value may be redefined in
# recv.ini

#tmp_prefix=.
# tmp_prefix: Like tmp_directory, but files are composed within the final
# target directories but stored with the given prefix in front of
# the normal filenames until the files are fully written.
# syntax: tmp_prefix=<file name start>
# default: undefined=off, but default value may be redefined in
# recv.ini

#tmp_suffix=.tmp
# tmp_suffix: Like tmp_prefix, but adding a suffix to the normal filenames
# until the files are fully written.
# syntax: tmp_suffix=<file suffix>
# default: undefined=off, but default value may be redefined in
# recv.ini

Re: Lost Images

Terence O'Hanlon Smith
 

Or perhaps, if you have only been receiving RSS, the monthly maintenance offline period may be the cause?

Re: Lost Images

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Hi.

I have been using the MGS data manager for about 5 weeks and have just noticed i no longer have any new images being sent to the MSG1/images folder, iv only realised this as i have just started using the MSG animator and this is where it gets the images from to animate, i have checked in MSG data manager set up, and all looks fine there sending data to image folder, but the folder is empty, i think it is creating a new folder each day but remaines empty.

Eric.
Eric,

I can only guess that you are, perhaps, looking at the LRIT directory rather than the HRIT directory. LRIT MSG-2 image data over EUMETCast has now stopped, and only HRIT is sent.

Cheers,
David
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Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...

Lost Images

e.macgurk@...
 

Hi.

I have been using the MGS data manager for about 5 weeks and have just noticed i no longer have any new images being sent to the MSG1/images folder, iv only realised this as i have just started using the MSG animator and this is where it gets the images from to animate, i have checked in MSG data manager set up, and all looks fine there sending data to image folder, but the folder is empty, i think it is creating a new folder each day but remaines empty.

Eric.

Re: Hourly FSD

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

These lines:

[EUMETSAT DATA Channel 1 ]
target_directory=received&#92;Data Channel 1

[EUMETSAT DATA Channel 4 ]
target_directory=received&#92;Data Channel 4 ]
Oh, and I now see that you have added extra spaces before the "]" in the first lines of the pair, and and extra "]" in the second line of the second pair. What I suggested was:

______________________________________________________
[EUMETSAT Data Channel 1]
target_directory=received&#92;Data Channel 1

[EUMETSAT Data Channel 2]
target_directory=received&#92;Data Channel 2

[EUMETSAT Data Channel 3]
target_directory=received&#92;Data Channel 3

[EUMETSAT Data Channel 4]
target_directory=received&#92;Data Channel 4
______________________________________________________


Perhaps the lines you reported had typing errors, but please check carefully.

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...

Re: Hourly FSD

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

David

Many thanks for you quick reply. I have carried out your instructions, including checking the MSG Manager Set Up and still do not receive the hourly FSD................. 3 hourly coming in as usual

I attach a copy of my received.ini file which I have never edited before and is as loaded when I first started ussing the programme years ago.

There seem to be a lot of lines I do not understand. Is there a conflict somewhere ?

Further help requested.

Regards...............Geoffrey

Geoffrey,

These lines:

[EUMETSAT DATA Channel 1 ]
target_directory=received&#92;Data Channel 1

[EUMETSAT DATA Channel 4 ]
target_directory=received&#92;Data Channel 4 ]

need to be in the recv-channels.ini file, not the recv.ini file. Obviously, you should match any directory specifications with those you already have for the other channels.

One other point - you need PID 500 decimal, 0x01F4 hex, enabled in your DVB World or SkyStar setup.

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...

Hourly FSD

geoffreygee90
 

David

Many thanks for you quick reply. I have carried out your instructions, including checking the MSG Manager Set Up and still do not receive the hourly FSD................. 3 hourly coming in as usual

I attach a copy of my received.ini file which I have never edited before and is as loaded when I first started ussing the programme years ago.

There seem to be a lot of lines I do not understand. Is there a conflict somewhere ?

Further help requested.

Regards...............Geoffrey

`# recv.ini - TelliNet+TelliCast+TelliVision: central Receiver Configuration File


# additional files: see license.ini, recv-channels.ini (optional)
# for more information on file format use help menu in Tellicast shell
#
# 2-4-3 10-10-2005
#

[EUMETSAT DATA Channel 1 ]
target_directory=received&#92;Data Channel 1

[EUMETSAT DATA Channel 4 ]
target_directory=received&#92;Data Channel 4 ]


[recipient]
user_name=GeoffreyGee
user_key_crypt=a20m-nwn7-p66p-a0db


[shell]
login=none
port=2517
refresh=3

[watchdog]
#error_script=none./error.sh
#error_script_cause_announcement=30

[logging]
log_file_size=1000000
log_file_number=30
log_level=normal

[locations]
#file_database_directory=receiving/tmp
log_file=>>recv.log
license_file=C:&#92;Program Files&#92;T-Systems&#92;BusinessTV-IP&#92;license.ini
channels_file=C:&#92;Program Files&#92;T-Systems&#92;BusinessTV-IP&#92;recv-channels.ini

[announcement_channel]
address=224.223.222.223:4711
name=TSL Announcement Channel

[parameters]
interface_address=192.168.238.238
#file_database_size=262144000
#file_delivery_counter=50
file_delivery_speed=20000000

Re: Alps

James Brown
 

In message <4D5261B5.40001@...>, Alan Banks <alan@...> writes
Hi All,
Very clear over the alps this morning. Should be good for some of the
Polar orbiters later.
For the first time I note some Von Karman Vortices south of Elba ans an
interesting little circulation east of Menorca.
See
http://www.alanbanks.org.uk/imageofmonth.html
Cheers

Alan
That's excellent Alan - I haven't seen the Von Karman vortices in that area before - now disintegrating a little.

Many thanks for sharing
James
--
James Brown

Alps

Alan Banks <alan@...>
 

Hi All,
Very clear over the alps this morning. Should be good for some of the Polar orbiters later.
For the first time I note some Von Karman Vortices south of Elba ans an interesting little circulation east of Menorca.
See
http://www.alanbanks.org.uk/imageofmonth.html
Cheers

Alan

Re: Hourly FSD

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

David.
I have checked with Eumetsat that I should be receiving these transmissions
but I am still only getting the 6 hr ones . Where have I gone wrong as I
can see nothing in "set up " that refers to this. and I am running the
latest versions of the programmes.

Regards...........Geoffrey

Geoffrey,

The hourly FSD is sent on a different data stream - "EUMETSAT Data Channel 4", so you will need to ensure that your recv-channels.ini includes that data as well as any other data you take. In the example below, the two lines including "Channel 4" were added to get the hourly FSD:

______________________________________________
[EUMETSAT Data Channel 1]
target_directory=received&#92;Data Channel 1

[EUMETSAT Data Channel 2]
target_directory=received&#92;Data Channel 2

[EUMETSAT Data Channel 3]
target_directory=received&#92;Data Channel 3

[EUMETSAT Data Channel 4]
target_directory=received&#92;Data Channel 4
______________________________________________


In the MSG Data Manager itself, you would need to visit: Setup, Channel Selection, FSD, and ensure that the "Hourly FSD" box is checked. I would also suggest checking the "Generic naming" box. In any case, the FSD should be three hourly, not six hourly.

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...

Hourly FSD

geoffreygee90
 

David.
I have checked with Eumetsat that I should be receiving these transmissions
but I am still only getting the 6 hr ones . Where have I gone wrong as I
can see nothing in "set up " that refers to this. and I am running the
latest versions of the programmes.

Regards...........Geoffrey

New file uploaded to MSG-1

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