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MSG-1 SEVIRI image data...

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁒󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί
 

MSG-1 SEVIRI image data is now back to all 12 channels as of the
14:15 cycle. Please note that the calibration may not be correct
until Tuesday, Jan 13th.

Cheers,
David


Re: msg-1 reception with linux

Luca Bertagnolio <lucaberta@...>
 

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "msg1photos" <msg1photos@y...> wrote:
Dear Luca
I have I have downloaded 8.0 version but I have
NEVER SEEN RedHat 8.2 distribution. Are you sure ??
can you give me the link from where to download RH 8.2 ??
my mistake probably, it must be RH 8. That PC is the only one I ever
installed RH on, since I normally use Debian, hence the confusion in
the RH version, apologize.

I have tryed to install LinuxTV 1.0.1 on RH 9.0 but it does not
compile due to a great number of compilation errors.............

what do you suggest to me ??
oh well, it really depends on your familiarity with recompiling Linux
kernels and loadable modules. If you are not too comfortable in
doing that, I am afraid this will be a pretty complicated job for you.

Make sure that the kernel you are running on your RH is the correct
version, and likewise for the gcc compiler. I did not have to
recompile the kernel when I did my tests.

thanks again
Edward
Bye, Luca


Re: msg-1 reception with linux

msg1photos
 

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "Luca Bertagnolio" <lucaberta@y...>
wrote:
Edward,

a few months ago I did successful tests under Linux, running
Tellique
with a WinTV Nova DVB card, and the sharing the "received"
directory
under Samba, so I could decode the files with David's software.

I sure can help you in your tests, but bear in mind that I am not
sure about how the Linux version of Tellique supports the eToken
Pro
USB token. So this all might be a temporary solution, but it's
definitely worth trying.

In order to set up the DVB data reception, you have to follow the
instructions found on http://www.linuxtv.org/

The LinuxTV 1.0.1 driver supports the SkyStar2 PCI card, but not
the
USB version. Please read all the docs included with the driver and
load the different modules in order to have Linux recognize the
card.

You might not need to recompile the kernel, I didn't have to under
RedHat 8.2 at least.
Dear Luca
I have I have downloaded 8.0 version but I have
NEVER SEEN RedHat 8.2 distribution. Are you sure ??
can you give me the link from where to download RH 8.2 ??

I have tryed to install LinuxTV 1.0.1 on RH 9.0 but it does not
compile due to a great number of compilation errors.............

what do you suggest to me ??

thanks again
Edward

You will need a few modules for the LinuxTV
driver, all is well documented in the driver docs.

After that, I will share with you the tricks I had to do in order
to
have Tellique work properly under Linux. But I will need to reboot
the PC to browse my config files, so I will do it another time.

Meanwhile, let me know when you'll be OK with the LinuxTV driver.

Best regards,

Luca Bertagnolio
Brussels, Belgium

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "msg1photos" <msg1photos@y...> wrote:
hi all
I am a linux entusiast so I decided to make a linux based
receiving station. I have got tellique software from eumetsat
(linux version, obviously) and I have installed it on my
red hat 9.0 workstation.
the problem is that I have not found instructions and
documentation
about linux version of software.
for example I don't know if I have to recompile the kernel or
if there is a loadable module for it, I dont't know how to
configure
it, and so on ..........................

Is there someone that has a working linux system ???
Can you give me a link of a site that describes all steps
to configure correctly the system ??


Re: Data

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁒󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί
 

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "Douglas Deans" <douglas@d...> wrote:
I assume that I am a not the only one seeing no data coming in
since switching on about 07.45 UTC.
Small lack of confidence after my problems of the 6th !
Douglas, No MSG-1 data here since 06:30. You should still be
getting Admin messages every 15 minutes, though, and FSD.

David


Data

Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
 

I assume that I am a not the only one seeing no data coming in since
switching on about 07.45 UTC.
Small lack of confidence after my problems of the 6th !

Thanks
Douglas.


Re: Sailing Channel gone?

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁒󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί
 

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, SAT 2000 <sat2000@e...> wrote:
Sailing Channel has left 11096 H,
moved to 11200 V. 27.500 3/4
Joris
Dubai
More room for that extra Eumetcast data, then!

David


Re: Sailing Channel gone?

SAT 2000 <sat2000@...>
 

Sailing Channel has left 11096 H,
moved to 11200 V. 27.500 3/4
Joris
Dubai



> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 00:44:11 -0000
From: "DAVE BLAND" <twocv@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Sailing Channel gone?

Hi Luca No problems watching the sailing channel this morning about
10:00am GMT ----Dave-----
----- Original Message -----
From: Luca Bertagnolio
To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 8:06 PM
Subject: [MSG-1] Sailing Channel gone?


Am I the only one not able to lock onto the Sailing Channel on the
same Deutsche Telekom transponder as EUMETCast?

My receiver now shows "service unknown" instead of the channel
name... too bad if the got rid of it, it was a nice way to check if
the whole transponder stream was working OK.

Bye, Luca
Brussels, Belgium



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Re: Eumetcast update - you may want to restart your Tellique client software

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁒󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί
 

Thanks for a very informative update and well spotted on the
channel 3 bandwidth. Perhaps that is the most important upgrade of
all.

I didn't spot it, to be honest, I was told....

I am noticing already with the new Tellique that the .fsy seems to
be staying much smaller. With the older software I regularly had 2
large files despite never having a problem with segment loss...still
that's history now!

Due to the Eumetsat changes, rather than the upgrade of the Tellique
client.

I have just received your original advice direct from Eumetsat
OPS. in a mail. I really must repeat that the service from Eumetsat
OPS is superb.

It was the result of some discussions I had with Eumetsat about a
specific missing segment - just occasionally I dig into the log
files and if one PC gets the segment OK, and the other failed, I try
to understand why. Eumetsat have a very detailed understanding of
the operation of the Tellique system resulting in the tip which I
suggested passing on to this list.

Superb service from Eumetsat, as you say.

Cheers,
David


Re: Eumetcast update - you may want to restart your Tellique client software

Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
 

Douglas,

The bandwidth on Data Channel 3 was increased as well, so there may
be a greater net flow of data into your PC for the Tellique client
to sort out. Unfortunately my own graphs only show net traffic, and
not per channel.

Yes I realised after I wrote the advice that there was perhaps
a "delete regularly" implication, which wasn't really intended.

It seems that: if you don't have a high error rate, the .FSY will
stay as a single file, and something round up to 50MB is OK. If
lots of fragments start to get cached (and the expiration time
before was 7 days), and the FYS files approach 100 + 100 + 50MB
(i.e. three files), then there is a chance that accessing these
files may cause a timeout in the Tellique software perhaps resulting
in missing segments. Reducing the expiration time should reduce the
amount of caching.

I back Arne van Belle's recommendation to delete any .FSY files
prior to starting the Tellique client. Doing this as part of the
shutdown process would be ideal!

In addition, if you get a bad segment spell, due to high wind or
whatever, and the .FSY file is more than 50MB or there is more than
one file, restart the Tellique client as described.

Cheers,
David
Thanks for a very informative update and well spotted on the channel 3
bandwidth. Perhaps that is the most important upgrade of all. Of course
the real benefit of that won't be fully appreciated until all SEVIRI
products are back....but excellent news. With all my troubles yesterday I
did not notice this.
I am almost certain that is what brought about the chaotic computer
behaviour, but why this time, when such operations have been carried out
many times before without incident to me. Still it was a good excuse to
update the very old software.
I am noticing already with the new Tellique that the .fsy seems to be
staying much smaller. With the older software I regularly had 2 large files
despite never having a problem with segment loss...still that's history now!
I have just received your original advice direct from Eumetsat OPS. in a
mail. I really must repeat that the service from Eumetsat OPS is superb.

Thanks David

Douglas.


Re: Eumetcast update - you may want to restart your Tellique client software

David Strickland <david@...>
 

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "David Taylor" <david-taylor@b...>
wrote:
Folks,

Following changes in the Eumetcast system tuning on January 6th to
optimise the file expiration time, you may find it beneficial to
restart your Tellique client if it normally runs continuously and
Just restarted my system, has been switched off for a couple of
weeks. So far no missing segments!! Perhaps it is because there is
less data but I would like to think that the changes have reduced my
missing segment problem. Let you know next Tuesday if the improvement
is permanent. (No other changes to system, did delete 0.fsy file as
recommended.)

Regards David S.


Re: Eumetcast update - you may want to restart your Tellique client software

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁒󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί
 

David, following our various direct mail chats yesterday, it does
seem an awful coincidence that the 6th was the day that my disasters
struck.
All continues to go well so far with the new software.
The above advice is not implying that there is benefit in deleting
the .fsy files every night.....small batch file ?

Douglas,

The bandwidth on Data Channel 3 was increased as well, so there may
be a greater net flow of data into your PC for the Tellique client
to sort out. Unfortunately my own graphs only show net traffic, and
not per channel.

Yes I realised after I wrote the advice that there was perhaps
a "delete regularly" implication, which wasn't really intended.

It seems that: if you don't have a high error rate, the .FSY will
stay as a single file, and something round up to 50MB is OK. If
lots of fragments start to get cached (and the expiration time
before was 7 days), and the FYS files approach 100 + 100 + 50MB
(i.e. three files), then there is a chance that accessing these
files may cause a timeout in the Tellique software perhaps resulting
in missing segments. Reducing the expiration time should reduce the
amount of caching.

I back Arne van Belle's recommendation to delete any .FSY files
prior to starting the Tellique client. Doing this as part of the
shutdown process would be ideal!

In addition, if you get a bad segment spell, due to high wind or
whatever, and the .FSY file is more than 50MB or there is more than
one file, restart the Tellique client as described.

Cheers,
David


Re: Meteosat data

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁒󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί
 

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, Lawrence <lawrence@a...> wrote:
What a pity that the MSG-1 EumetCast system is not yet able to
provide Meteosat-7 infra-red data during this MSG-1 decontamination
period.

Lawrence, that is coming later this year to cover another MSG-1
decontamination, I understand. Yes, it is a pity, but you can get
digital Met-6 (Rapid Scanning Service) and Met-7 (Archive Direct)
off the Internet if you are registered. 24-hours delayed
for "standard" users.

Cheers,
David


Re: Eumetcast update - you may want to restart your Tellique client software

Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Taylor" <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 2:07 PM
Subject: [MSG-1] Eumetcast update - you may want to restart your Tellique
client software


Folks,

Following changes in the Eumetcast system tuning on January 6th to
optimise the file expiration time, you may find it beneficial to
restart your Tellique client if it normally runs continuously and
you have a good signal level, but still experience some missing
segments. This is what to do:

- in Explorer, locate the Tellique &#92;receiving&#92;tmp folder
- there should be one or more .FSY files
- if the files exceed 10MB in total
- stop the Tellique client
- delete the .FSY files in &#92;receiving&#92;tmp
- restart the Tellique client

If you restart your receiver system every day, then delete the .FSY
files prior to starting the Tellique client. There is no need to do
this immediately if you are not seeing problems, but when you do
need to next restart the Tellique software, remember to delete
the .FSY files as described above.

Cheers,
David
David, following our various direct mail chats yesterday, it does seem an
awful coincidence that the 6th was the day that my disasters struck.
All continues to go well so far with the new software.
The above advice is not implying that there is benefit in deleting the .fsy
files every night.....small batch file ?

Regards
Douglas.


Meteosat data

Lawrence <lawrence@...>
 

What a pity that the MSG-1 EumetCast system is not yet able to provide
Meteosat-7 infra-red data during this MSG-1 decontamination period.

At least while it continues, I have not suffered a single missing
segment from the received channels.

Lawrence Harris


Eumetcast update - you may want to restart your Tellique client software

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁒󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί
 

Folks,

Following changes in the Eumetcast system tuning on January 6th to
optimise the file expiration time, you may find it beneficial to
restart your Tellique client if it normally runs continuously and
you have a good signal level, but still experience some missing
segments. This is what to do:

- in Explorer, locate the Tellique &#92;receiving&#92;tmp folder
- there should be one or more .FSY files
- if the files exceed 50MB in total
--- stop the Tellique client
--- delete the .FSY files in &#92;receiving&#92;tmp
--- restart the Tellique client

If you restart your receiver system every day, then delete the .FSY
files prior to starting the Tellique client. There is no need to do
this immediately if you are not seeing problems, but when you do
need to next restart the Tellique software, remember to delete
the .FSY files as described above.

N.B. with the addition of more data to Eumetcast the expected cache
size will grow accordingly.

(Resposted - updated threshold from 10MB to 50MB).

Cheers,
David


Re: msg-1 reception with linux

Luca Bertagnolio <lucaberta@...>
 

Edward,

a few months ago I did successful tests under Linux, running Tellique
with a WinTV Nova DVB card, and the sharing the "received" directory
under Samba, so I could decode the files with David's software.

I sure can help you in your tests, but bear in mind that I am not
sure about how the Linux version of Tellique supports the eToken Pro
USB token. So this all might be a temporary solution, but it's
definitely worth trying.

In order to set up the DVB data reception, you have to follow the
instructions found on http://www.linuxtv.org/

The LinuxTV 1.0.1 driver supports the SkyStar2 PCI card, but not the
USB version. Please read all the docs included with the driver and
load the different modules in order to have Linux recognize the card.

You might not need to recompile the kernel, I didn't have to under
RedHat 8.2 at least. You will need a few modules for the LinuxTV
driver, all is well documented in the driver docs.

After that, I will share with you the tricks I had to do in order to
have Tellique work properly under Linux. But I will need to reboot
the PC to browse my config files, so I will do it another time.

Meanwhile, let me know when you'll be OK with the LinuxTV driver.

Best regards,

Luca Bertagnolio
Brussels, Belgium

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "msg1photos" <msg1photos@y...> wrote:
hi all
I am a linux entusiast so I decided to make a linux based
receiving station. I have got tellique software from eumetsat
(linux version, obviously) and I have installed it on my
red hat 9.0 workstation.
the problem is that I have not found instructions and documentation
about linux version of software.
for example I don't know if I have to recompile the kernel or
if there is a loadable module for it, I dont't know how to configure
it, and so on ..........................

Is there someone that has a working linux system ???
Can you give me a link of a site that describes all steps
to configure correctly the system ??


Re: No more IR data?

maxrpunkt
 

ups... i forgot - now that u say it... sorry, but thanks!
___________________________________________________________________________________________

Maximilian Reuter
___________________________________________________________________________________________


Re: No more IR data?

Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Maximilian Reuter" <reuterm@loz.de>
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:21 PM
Subject: [MSG-1] No more IR data?


is anyone receiving any MSG IR data anymore. since 8:30 i only receive
VIS006, VIS008, NIR016 and the HRVIS cahnnel. anyone else the same?
regards, max
____________________________________________________________________________
_______________

Maximilian Reuter

No today was the start of decontamination of the satellite....so no IR until
Friday.
May I respectfully suggest you read the admin messages which have been
advising of this in great detail since last year.

Regards
Douglas.


No more IR data?

maxrpunkt
 

is anyone receiving any MSG IR data anymore. since 8:30 i only receive VIS006, VIS008, NIR016 and the HRVIS cahnnel. anyone else the same?
regards, max
___________________________________________________________________________________________

Maximilian Reuter
___________________________________________________________________________________________


msg-1 reception with linux

msg1photos
 

hi all
I am a linux entusiast so I decided to make a linux based
receiving station. I have got tellique software from eumetsat
(linux version, obviously) and I have installed it on my
red hat 9.0 workstation.
the problem is that I have not found instructions and documentation
about linux version of software.
for example I don't know if I have to recompile the kernel or
if there is a loadable module for it, I dont't know how to configure
it, and so on ..........................

Is there someone that has a working linux system ???
Can you give me a link of a site that describes all steps
to configure correctly the system ??

thanks in advance for your help
edward