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Re: DVBWorld

geojohnt@...
 

In a message dated 20/05/2009 11:13:59 GMT Daylight Time, rsmoore@liv.ac.uk
writes:

BTW I have TP14_12034_V_27500 and TP11_11977_H_27500 so I am receiving on
TP11 at present.


Robert,

Now I'm really confused.

Regards,
John.


Re: DVBWorld

Robert Moore
 

Thanks John, I think I'll settle for your last point 'sequence of software installation' and have a go at this later today.

BTW I have TP14_12034_V_27500 and TP11_11977_H_27500 so I am receiving on TP11 at present.

Robert

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, geojohnt@... wrote:

Hello Robert,

Just to say sorry for leaving you high and dry yesterday following my
'you've got problems' posting I had to go out.
I was though sure you had been receiving EUMETCast via a SkyStar card
previously so your dish must have been on 9 E.

Thanks to Ian and David for taking over.
Just to confirm and for those configuring the DVBWorld software manually
you first have to select 'Eurobird-9 at 9 E' in the left hand side slots of
the Sat Config page [having clicked the spanner on the opening page]then
select TP14_11977_H_27500 in the top slot list on the right hand side page -
which will fill in the other boxes automatically.
By then clicking on Scan TP on the right hand side it will download the
channels on this transponder only - one of which will be Testbild - and fill
the window on the left-hand side of the opening page.
Double clicking Testbild will show media broadcast colour bars and test
tone - which can be rather reassuring.

You should now have green signal level graphs.

As David said, you now need to set the IP reception on the IP Config page.
Again you have selection on the left and right hand sides.
Select Eurobird 9 at 9 E (if not already selected)
Scroll down the list in the box below and select TP14 11977 27500 H34 and
you will be able 'send' this to the right-hand box and click 'Apply'

However, doing all this manually instead of via EUMETSAT's CD configuration
you would then need to manually enter the required PID's - which is a bit
time consuming as they have to entered one by one.
But it's not difficult.

That's the end of my knowledge - your problem appears to be IP addresses
'within' your computer which confuses me (and made even more complex with
Vista! (grin)) though Ian and David are obviously (and others) are dab hands
at this.

Or, perhaps, just a case of correct sequence of software installation?

Regards,
John.





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Re: New Metop SAF LST/DSLF Data.

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

I got this from EUMETSAT:

"We just received information that Landsaf are currently doing an archive upgrade. The problem should be fixed today."

Cheers,
David
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Re: New Metop SAF LST/DSLF Data.

Ian Deans <isdeans1.-_@...>
 

I perhaps should have mentioned that the MSG LSA-SAF products have problems as well. There has been many gaps in the LST /DSLF and DSSF data recently and as was mentioned yesterday some 0 Kb files are coming through, although very often the correct one is received as well.

It may be relevant that since switching on this morning well over an hour ago, no MSG LSA-SAF data has been received.

Regards
Ian.



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From: "David J Taylor" <gm8arv@yahoo.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:49 AM
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] New Metop SAF LST/DSLF Data.

Folks,

I noticed that the Metop LSA-SAF products stopped with the 16:52 data on
May 16. Just me, or did anyone else see this as well?

Thanks,
David


Re: New Metop SAF LST/DSLF Data.

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Ian Deans wrote:
Yes as I mentioned in a HDFviewer mail yesterday, I too have noticed
that the data has stopped. Since it started it has been very
unreliable and not only has there been days with no data, but also
many days with big gaps in the data.

I did send a mail to LSA SAF but did not get a reply. However it is
worth mentioning that this data is shown as " pre-operational " on
the LSA SAF site so that really excludes any follow up.

Regards
Ian.
Thanks, Ian and John.

I've e-mailed both the LSA-SAF and EUMETSAT (knowing that EUMETSAT would contact the LSA-SAF in any case), but if it's pre-operational, then anything could happen, as you say. It didn't say pre-operational in their message: Operations_Weekly_Schedule_20090326143533.txt, so perhaps that's how I missed it.

Perhaps the team have decanted from Portugal to Monaco, to watch the race! <G>

Cheers,
David
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Re: New Metop SAF LST/DSLF Data.

karel van den ende
 

David,

I saw the data flow stopped as well on May 16.


Karel van den Ende



Folks,

I noticed that the Metop LSA-SAF products stopped with the 16:52 data on
May 16. Just me, or did anyone else see this as well?

Thanks,
David
--
SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements
Web: www.satsignal.eu
Email: davidtaylor@writeme.com <mailto:davidtaylor%40writeme.com>



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Re: New Metop SAF LST/DSLF Data.

Ian Deans <isdeans1.-_@...>
 

Yes as I mentioned in a HDFviewer mail yesterday, I too have noticed that
the data has stopped. Since it started it has been very unreliable and not
only has there been days with no data, but also many days with big gaps in
the data.

I did send a mail to LSA SAF but did not get a reply. However it is worth
mentioning that this data is shown as " pre-operational " on the LSA SAF
site so that really excludes any follow up.

Regards
Ian.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "David J Taylor" <gm8arv@yahoo.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:49 AM
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] New Metop SAF LST/DSLF Data.

Folks,

I noticed that the Metop LSA-SAF products stopped with the 16:52 data on
May 16. Just me, or did anyone else see this as well?

Thanks,
David


Re: [SPAM] Re: New Metop SAF LST/DSLF Data.

seggins2000
 

----- Original Message -----
From: David J Taylor
To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 7:49 AM
Subject: [SPAM] Re: [MSG-1] New Metop SAF LST/DSLF Data.





Folks,

I noticed that the Metop LSA-SAF products stopped with the 16:52 data on
May 16. Just me, or did anyone else see this as well?

Thanks,
David

David,
My records only go back 3 days, but I am certainly not receiving these at
the moment.
Cheers
John


Re: New Metop SAF LST/DSLF Data.

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Folks,

I noticed that the Metop LSA-SAF products stopped with the 16:52 data on May 16. Just me, or did anyone else see this as well?

Thanks,
David
--
SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements
Web: www.satsignal.eu
Email: davidtaylor@writeme.com


Re: DVBWorld

geojohnt@...
 

Hello Robert,

Just to say sorry for leaving you high and dry yesterday following my
'you've got problems' posting I had to go out.
I was though sure you had been receiving EUMETCast via a SkyStar card
previously so your dish must have been on 9 E.

Thanks to Ian and David for taking over.
Just to confirm and for those configuring the DVBWorld software manually
you first have to select 'Eurobird-9 at 9 E' in the left hand side slots of
the Sat Config page [having clicked the spanner on the opening page]then
select TP14_11977_H_27500 in the top slot list on the right hand side page -
which will fill in the other boxes automatically.
By then clicking on Scan TP on the right hand side it will download the
channels on this transponder only - one of which will be Testbild - and fill
the window on the left-hand side of the opening page.
Double clicking Testbild will show media broadcast colour bars and test
tone - which can be rather reassuring.

You should now have green signal level graphs.

As David said, you now need to set the IP reception on the IP Config page.
Again you have selection on the left and right hand sides.
Select Eurobird 9 at 9 E (if not already selected)
Scroll down the list in the box below and select TP14 11977 27500 H34 and
you will be able 'send' this to the right-hand box and click 'Apply'

However, doing all this manually instead of via EUMETSAT's CD configuration
you would then need to manually enter the required PID's - which is a bit
time consuming as they have to entered one by one.
But it's not difficult.

That's the end of my knowledge - your problem appears to be IP addresses
'within' your computer which confuses me (and made even more complex with
Vista! (grin)) though Ian and David are obviously (and others) are dab hands
at this.

Or, perhaps, just a case of correct sequence of software installation?

Regards,
John.


Re: DVBWorld - nearly there?

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Ian Deans wrote:
Robert, Windows XP should be OK

One minor point. When you changed from your SkyStar card to your
DVBWorld box was Tellique and your EKU software already loaded during
the change or did you load both these programs after setting up the
DVBWorld box.

Eumetsat strongly recommend that Tellique should not be loaded until
your DVB hardware is installed and that will apply also to the EKU
software as that needs to be loaded last ( with the EKU NOT installed
).

Regards
Ian.
Ian,

Although that is EUMETSAT's recommendation, and one I agree with for a "clean" install, on my Windows-7 test PC I found that I could add the SkyStar drivers after the DVB World box had been installed (with the DVB World box USB connection unplugged), without a problem. I have since found that I can simply disable the SkyStar card in the Device Manager and plug in the DVB World box USB again.

The only change required to the TelliCast software might be any automatic restart script associated with the SkyStar card.

So to add a DVB World USB box to an existing system, I would expect that you simply disable (or physically remove) the SkyStar card, and ensure that the network settings for the USB box are correct. I recall having to fiddle with the MAC address settings for one install, but not when adding a DVB World box to the text PC.

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements
Web: www.satsignal.eu
Email: davidtaylor@writeme.com


Re: DVBWorld - nearly there?

Ian Deans <isdeans1.-_@...>
 

Robert it is certainly worth trying as you have just about covered all other
possibilities.

Your DVB hardware should be installed first then Tellique and finally the
EKU software which should be installed before the EKU is fitted ( load EKU
software / close down / fit the EKU and reboot )

You should uninstall Tellique and the EKU software ( either the PKIClient or
RTE whichever you are using ) through uninstall programs in Control Panel.
There is no need to uninstall the DVBWorld Box. Then reinstall Tellique and
EKU software in the above order.

Hopefully it might be the answer, but if not at least another possibility is
eliminated.

Good luck.

Ian.

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From: "Robert Moore" <rsmoore@liv.ac.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 10:34 PM
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [MSG-1] Re: DVBWorld - nearly there?

Eumetsat strongly recommend that Tellique should not be loaded until your
DVB hardware is installed and that will apply also to the EKU software as
that needs to be loaded last ( with the EKU NOT installed ).

- that's probably it, Ian. I'll try uninstalling and reinstalling the EKU
tomorrow (if I can remember which program does it!) Will that do, or
should I uninstall everything and start all over again?

Robert


Re: DVBWorld - nearly there?

Robert Moore
 

Eumetsat strongly recommend that Tellique should not be loaded until your DVB hardware is installed and that will apply also to the EKU software as that needs to be loaded last ( with the EKU NOT installed ).

- that's probably it, Ian. I'll try uninstalling and reinstalling the EKU tomorrow (if I can remember which program does it!) Will that do, or should I uninstall everything and start all over again?

Robert


Re: DVBWorld - nearly there?

Ian Deans <isdeans1.-_@...>
 

Robert, Windows XP should be OK

One minor point. When you changed from your SkyStar card to your DVBWorld
box was Tellique and your EKU software already loaded during the change or
did you load both these programs after setting up the DVBWorld box.

Eumetsat strongly recommend that Tellique should not be loaded until your
DVB hardware is installed and that will apply also to the EKU software as
that needs to be loaded last ( with the EKU NOT installed ).

Regards
Ian.

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From: "Robert Moore" <rsmoore@liv.ac.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 8:09 PM
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [MSG-1] Re: DVBWorld - nearly there?

Thanks Ian, yes I'm clearly very close. Frustrating to be so near and yet
so far. I checked the IP address of the box and it has remained unchanged.
I'm using Windows XP Professional still - do you think there's something I
might have to upgrade for this OS?

Robert


Re: DVBWorld - nearly there?

Robert Moore
 

Thanks Ian, yes I'm clearly very close. Frustrating to be so near and yet so far. I checked the IP address of the box and it has remained unchanged. I'm using Windows XP Professional still - do you think there's something I might have to upgrade for this OS?

Robert

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "Ian Deans" <isdeans1.-_@...> wrote:

Robert it is important though to check the IP address of the DVB device. It
may well be that IPV4 has been reset to automatic and that you need to
change it to 192.168.238.238.

If that is OK which operating system are you using as Vista ( and Windows
7 ) may need the Vista route command upgrade. That was the final piece in
the jigsaw for me when I moved to Windows 7

Hope that helps and good luck -- you are clearly very close.

Regards
Ian.

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From: "Robert Moore" <rsmoore@...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 6:43 PM
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [MSG-1] Re: DVBWorld - nearly there?

No problems with this David - I followed your advice right at the
beginning and disabled the old TechniSat card.

Robert


Re: DVBWorld - nearly there?

Ian Deans <isdeans1.-_@...>
 

Robert it is important though to check the IP address of the DVB device. It may well be that IPV4 has been reset to automatic and that you need to change it to 192.168.238.238.

If that is OK which operating system are you using as Vista ( and Windows 7 ) may need the Vista route command upgrade. That was the final piece in the jigsaw for me when I moved to Windows 7

Hope that helps and good luck -- you are clearly very close.

Regards
Ian.

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From: "Robert Moore" <rsmoore@liv.ac.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 6:43 PM
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [MSG-1] Re: DVBWorld - nearly there?

No problems with this David - I followed your advice right at the beginning and disabled the old TechniSat card.

Robert


Re: DVBWorld - nearly there?

Robert Moore
 

No problems with this David - I followed your advice right at the beginning and disabled the old TechniSat card.

Robert

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "David J Taylor" <gm8arv@...> wrote:

Robert Moore wrote:
I must be nearly there. I still have the test card on screen but
'Data statistic' says that the data are flowing and I have a black T
on yellow. Signal strength 94% and quality 59%

There must be just one more step .....

Robert
Robert,

IP address of the DVB device? You may get a warning that 192.168.238.238
is already assigned to another device. Ignore the warning (assuming you
did disable or remove the SkyStar card).

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements
Web: www.satsignal.eu
Email: davidtaylor@...


Re: DVBWorld - nearly there?

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Robert Moore wrote:
I must be nearly there. I still have the test card on screen but
'Data statistic' says that the data are flowing and I have a black T
on yellow. Signal strength 94% and quality 59%

There must be just one more step .....

Robert
Robert,

IP address of the DVB device? You may get a warning that 192.168.238.238 is already assigned to another device. Ignore the warning (assuming you did disable or remove the SkyStar card).

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements
Web: www.satsignal.eu
Email: davidtaylor@writeme.com


DVBWorld - nearly there?

Robert Moore
 

I must be nearly there. I still have the test card on screen but 'Data statistic' says that the data are flowing and I have a black T on yellow.
Signal strength 94% and quality 59%

There must be just one more step .....

Robert

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "David J Taylor" <gm8arv@...> wrote:

Robert Moore wrote:
Thanks Ian - I did spot the address error but it hardly seemed worth
another email to correct it. Thanks also for the earlier message.
Some real problems here then; suspect something wrong with my
configuration. The only channel I have at 11977H is TP11.
Setting this give me Testbild and 12 other channels.
Robert
Robert,

If you have the Testbild OK, then you should be able to start the IP. The
IP should be shown as being on the same transponder (11977MHz H), but on
the Dexatek software at least, the numbering is separate (in the
right-hand box) and starts from TP1 as you add in IP transponders. If you
can't start the IP, I would check that you have the right IP transponder
configured.

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements
Web: www.satsignal.eu
Email: davidtaylor@...


Re: DVBWorld

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Robert Moore wrote:
Thanks Ian - I did spot the address error but it hardly seemed worth
another email to correct it. Thanks also for the earlier message.
Some real problems here then; suspect something wrong with my
configuration. The only channel I have at 11977H is TP11.
Setting this give me Testbild and 12 other channels.
Robert
Robert,

If you have the Testbild OK, then you should be able to start the IP. The IP should be shown as being on the same transponder (11977MHz H), but on the Dexatek software at least, the numbering is separate (in the right-hand box) and starts from TP1 as you add in IP transponders. If you can't start the IP, I would check that you have the right IP transponder configured.

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements
Web: www.satsignal.eu
Email: davidtaylor@writeme.com

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