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Re: HRV Channel 12
The strange anomaly is in fact present on all the 14.30 images andcan be seen between approx. 16° - 20° S latitude. A small blip in the SEVIRI or probably software. Yes, same here, Scanner or scan position sensor. Is this the region that was hammered by the mini-scans the other day? The FSD data is not coming in timeously at the moment."timeously" - Scottish? Meaning on-time (I am told). One wonders if eventually channel 3 may need a bandwidth tweak.I think you are correct - perticularly when all the other goodies are added like 30-minute Met-5 and Met-7 data next year. Changing the bandwidth would not have been possible if direct dissemination from MSG-1 were in use, so again many thanks to the SSPA designer! Cheers, David
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Re: [rig-l] A nice surprise.
Guy Martin <agm@...>
40Euros if you already have the Tellique software.
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From: James Brown To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:49 AM Subject: [MSG-1] Re: [rig-l] A nice surprise. In message <4f.388cde1f.2d180bbd@aol.com>, johnrigsec@aol.com writes >All, > >I hope that MSG users in the UK had the same surprise as me this morning when >picking up the morning post? >There amongst the Christmas cards was my Met. Office License Agreement for >the >use of MSG Data. > >I hope that you all received yours - or will do so in a couple of days. > >What an end to the year? > >Regards, >John Tellick. > Yes myself as well. Does this mean you'll be getting an MSG system now John? ;-)) To answer Douglas's question: We need to return a signed copy to the Met office and they will inform EUMETSAT and then they in turn will issue the decryption hardware and software at the cost of 100 EUR inclusive. Payment is to be by a cheque drawn in EUR to EUMETSAT, and then they will activate the e-token. Cheers, James -- James Brown To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: MSG-1-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MSG-1/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: MSG-1-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---------- http://www.gordano.com - Messaging for educators.
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Re: [rig-l] A nice surprise.
James Brown
In message <bs6j5g+i4r8@eGroups.com>, David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk> writes
David, just to let you and others know I have mailed my acceptance off today and have asked Colin if he would be so kind as to clarify the position with regards to users who have already purchased the Tellique sofware.Does this mean you'll be getting an MSG system now John? ;-))Must be the one person who _should_ have one!To answer Douglas's question:inform EUMETSAT and then they in turn will issue the decryption The letter indicated that on his passing on our details to EUMETSAT they would issue us with the decryption dongle for 40 EUR and the software for 60 EUR. What I am not clear on is whether the software specifically relates to the dongle or to the Tellique package - which many of us already have. I would hope that EUMETSAT have a record of our previous purchase, but as in my case this went directly to Tellique I'm not sure, although they did issue me with the free upgrade. Cheers, James -- James Brown
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Re: HRV Channel 12
--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "Ian S Deans" <ian@i...> wrote:
Did anyone else see a strange anomaly on HRIT channel 12 at 14.30.over Africa or was this just part of my on going problem with segment loss. What do you mean, Ian. What pixel location or lat and lon? "Africa" covers a fair number of pixels! The only thing I can see is that the switch from lower window to upper window seems a little less "clean" than usual. However, the 1415 and 1445 images look similar. Segment loss would cause a break of 464 lines in the image. If you have the Clear images box checked, that 464 lines should show as a black area, with precisely horizontal edges, and exactly 464 lines high. I mention this in detail because sometimes there are gaps in the Foreign Satellite Data which do _not_ have exactly horizontal edges, and these gaps are caused by gaps in the unrectified source data. The gap in the source has edges in the plane of the scan, but the scan plane may not be parallel to the equator because of the inclination of the orbit. When the rectified image is viewed, the scan gaps are no longer horizontal. I expect you already knew this, but others may not. Cheers, David
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Re: HRV Channel 12
Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
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From: "Ian S Deans" <ian@isdeans.freeserve.co.uk> To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 3:33 PM Subject: [MSG-1] HRV Channel 12 Did anyone else see a strange anomaly on HRIT channel 12 at 14.30. overthe 12.00 Met 5 images were terrible with segments 5-10 missing on the visibleproblem. The strange anomaly is in fact present on all the 14.30 images and can be seen between approx. 16� - 20� S latitude. A small blip in the SEVIRI or probably software. By now you will have seen that the majority of the Met 5 segments for 12.00 came in after 15.00 ! Not surprised you assumed it to be associated with your current segment issue. The FSD data is not coming in timeously at the moment. One wonders if eventually channel 3 may need a bandwidth tweak. Regards Douglas.
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Re: HRV Channel 12
Strangely enough segment loss on LRIT has been extremely rare, buttoday the 12.00 Met 5 images were terrible with segments 5-10 missing on the visible and segment 5 missing on both IR and WV, presumably all part of my problem. No, same here. I see the Met-5 12:00 segments coming in since 15:00...... Can't comment on HRV right now. David
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HRV Channel 12
Ian S Deans <ian@...>
Did anyone else see a strange anomaly on HRIT channel 12 at 14.30. over
Africa or was this just part of my on going problem with segment loss. Strangely enough segment loss on LRIT has been extremely rare, but today the 12.00 Met 5 images were terrible with segments 5-10 missing on the visible and segment 5 missing on both IR and WV, presumably all part of my problem. Regards Ian
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Re: Address Change
M5WJF <m5wjf.qthr@...>
Hi All,
Colin Cuthbert, Met Office, rang me and explained that if anyone changes their address during the MSG Licence period, they should let him know in the first instance. He would then update the details with EUMETSAT & the Met Office, and a new Licence would then be issued free of charge. I'm impressed that he rang me back so quickly. 73 de Wayne M5WJF
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Address Change
M5WJF <m5wjf.qthr@...>
Hi All,
Yes, it was a nice surprise this morning. I've left a voice mail message with Colin Cuthbert, Met Office, requesting details of whether an address change within the free three year MSG Licence Period will attract any cost/difficulty. I'm likely to be moving house early next year and decided to ask. I'll let everyone know what I find out. 73 de Wayne M5WJF
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Re: [rig-l] A nice surprise.
John Thexton <john@...>
Yes you are correct David 40 euros for the e token 60 for tellique software.
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From: David Taylor To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:05 AM Subject: [MSG-1] Re: [rig-l] A nice surprise. > Does this mean you'll be getting an MSG system now John? ;-)) Must be the one person who _should_ have one! > To answer Douglas's question: > > We need to return a signed copy to the Met office and they will inform EUMETSAT and then they in turn will issue the decryption hardware and software at the cost of 100 EUR inclusive. This confuses me - the cost, as I understaood it, was 60 Euros for the Tellique software and 40 Euros for the eToken and it's runtime environment. You may want to check just what you get for the 100 Euros - perhaps it includes the Tellique software you already have. BTW: if you are running the V4.2.8 drivers - watch out. Perhaps it was just me, but I had awful problems with the eToken and the V4.2.8 drivers - the system would randomly stop working after 3 - 72 hours. We went through a lot of pain to discover just what the problem was, upgrades of the Tellique software, upgrades and debug versions of the eToken runtime environment, putting the eToken on a USB extender cable in case it wasn't seating properly. This on a 550MHz Pentium III. In the end, I got a second eToken, and built a second 1GHz Pentium III PC with a new SkyStar card. No problems with the rebuilt configuration. I then put the original SkyStar card and USB eToken into another PC (2.8GHz Pentium 4), got a splitter to feed both, and have no problems with that configuration. Go figure! No such mail here as yet, just the Tax bill for last year and half of next year.... David To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: MSG-1-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MSG-1/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: MSG-1-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Re: [rig-l] A nice surprise.
Does this mean you'll be getting an MSG system now John? ;-))Must be the one person who _should_ have one! To answer Douglas's question:inform EUMETSAT and then they in turn will issue the decryption hardware and software at the cost of 100 EUR inclusive. This confuses me - the cost, as I understaood it, was 60 Euros for the Tellique software and 40 Euros for the eToken and it's runtime environment. You may want to check just what you get for the 100 Euros - perhaps it includes the Tellique software you already have. BTW: if you are running the V4.2.8 drivers - watch out. Perhaps it was just me, but I had awful problems with the eToken and the V4.2.8 drivers - the system would randomly stop working after 3 - 72 hours. We went through a lot of pain to discover just what the problem was, upgrades of the Tellique software, upgrades and debug versions of the eToken runtime environment, putting the eToken on a USB extender cable in case it wasn't seating properly. This on a 550MHz Pentium III. In the end, I got a second eToken, and built a second 1GHz Pentium III PC with a new SkyStar card. No problems with the rebuilt configuration. I then put the original SkyStar card and USB eToken into another PC (2.8GHz Pentium 4), got a splitter to feed both, and have no problems with that configuration. Go figure! No such mail here as yet, just the Tax bill for last year and half of next year.... David
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Re: [rig-l] A nice surprise.
Trevor David <tdavid@...>
I note that Eumetsat have stated that a credit card system will be available early 2004 for payment up to E1,500. Further details will be on the web in due course.
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From: James Brown To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:49 AM Subject: [MSG-1] Re: [rig-l] A nice surprise. In message <4f.388cde1f.2d180bbd@aol.com>, johnrigsec@aol.com writes >All, > >I hope that MSG users in the UK had the same surprise as me this morning when >picking up the morning post? >There amongst the Christmas cards was my Met. Office License Agreement for >the >use of MSG Data. > >I hope that you all received yours - or will do so in a couple of days. > >What an end to the year? > >Regards, >John Tellick. > Yes myself as well. Does this mean you'll be getting an MSG system now John? ;-)) To answer Douglas's question: We need to return a signed copy to the Met office and they will inform EUMETSAT and then they in turn will issue the decryption hardware and software at the cost of 100 EUR inclusive. Payment is to be by a cheque drawn in EUR to EUMETSAT, and then they will activate the e-token. Cheers, James -- James Brown To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: MSG-1-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MSG-1/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: MSG-1-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Re: [rig-l] A nice surprise.
James Brown
In message <4f.388cde1f.2d180bbd@aol.com>, johnrigsec@aol.com writes
All,Yes myself as well. Does this mean you'll be getting an MSG system now John? ;-)) To answer Douglas's question: We need to return a signed copy to the Met office and they will inform EUMETSAT and then they in turn will issue the decryption hardware and software at the cost of 100 EUR inclusive. Payment is to be by a cheque drawn in EUR to EUMETSAT, and then they will activate the e-token. Cheers, James -- James Brown
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Firewalls and MSG DM
Lawrence <lawrence@...>
Well - its solved! On every occasion in the past, I have not been able
to get the home network computers to talk to each other when the XP firewall is enabled. I had spent hours trying to crack the problem. All settings were correct and the names etc were fine; just didn't work. I decided to have one more try - after reading the responses - and guess what! Yes, it now works without the slightest hitch. Thanks for comments. Lawrence
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Re: A nice surprise.
Trevor Davies <g0jix@...>
All,
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SNAP!
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From: johnrigsec@aol.com To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com ; rig-l@yahoogroups.com ; WXSAT-L@huey.met.fsu.edu Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 8:56 AM Subject: [MSG-1] A nice surprise. All, I hope that MSG users in the UK had the same surprise as me this morning when picking up the morning post? There amongst the Christmas cards was my Met. Office License Agreement for the use of MSG Data. I hope that you all received yours - or will do so in a couple of days. What an end to the year? Regards, John Tellick. 73 de Trevor G0JIX All mail scanned with Norton.
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Re: A nice surprise.
Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
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From: <johnrigsec@aol.com> To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>; <rig-l@yahoogroups.com>; <WXSAT-L@huey.met.fsu.edu> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 8:56 AM Subject: [MSG-1] A nice surprise. All,when picking up the morning post? Excellent news John. Mine hasn't arrived but at least we know the process is under way. What happens when you get it ? Presumably you sign a second copy and send it back to them as confirmation. Do you then apply to Eumetsat for the e-dongle and if so do they need evidence of your licence ? Regards Douglas.
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A nice surprise.
johnrigsec@...
All,
I hope that MSG users in the UK had the same surprise as me this morning when picking up the morning post? There amongst the Christmas cards was my Met. Office License Agreement for the use of MSG Data. I hope that you all received yours - or will do so in a couple of days. What an end to the year? Regards, John Tellick.
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Re: Firewalls and MSG-1
Alan Sewards <alan.sewards@...>
Lawrence,
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Use the free Zone Alarm firewall. It is configurable and seems to work well. Best regards - Alan
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From: "Lawrence" <lawrence@astronomer.plus.com> To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 3:09 PM Subject: [MSG-1] Firewalls and MSG-1 In order to use MSG DM across a home network, I have had to disable the
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Re: Firewalls and MSG-1
--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, Lawrence <lawrence@a...> wrote:
In order to use MSG DM across a home network, I have had todisable the XP Pro firewall. When it is enabled, the other computers on the network cannot see the main (processing) computer. Does anyone know whether the MS firewall can be taught that the internal network is OK? I have not found any reference to this in MS help files. I've seen no problems with this. I run a router, which could provide DHCP addresses, although I have actually made the PCs have static addresses. All the PCs run Zone Alarm, and the only setting required is to say "trust the local network", which it sets by default in any case. Each PC has the appropriate entry in \system32 \drivers\etc\hosts to enable it to find the other PCs. I run a workgroup, and not a domain. You should be aware that the XP Firewall only works to block incoming requests, if a virus gets on your system it can do what it wants. IMHO, it's better to use Zone Alarm which allows you to specifically control which programs have access to the local network and which have access to the Internet. On my Receiver PC I have allowed access for Setup4PC, Server4PC and TQrecv. There was no need to enable special access for the MSG Data Manager on the Processing PC. Cheers, David
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Re: Firewalls and MSG-1
James Brown
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Exactly the same here James. I have 2 computers on a simple (cross over)LOL Douglas! Yes indeed - I now consider myself to be a network expert because of all the problems I have had at one point or another!! The only thing is, I haven't a clue as to how they work, but if your problem happens to have matched mine - then of course I am an expert at that point!! My network regularly goes down, I've had to re-install drivers for the access points, rename connections that for some strange reason become connection 3, followed by connection 4 etc. Discover that I hadn't logged all the computers in the same workgroup, unplug devices which have inexplicably locked up - usually on the wife's computer - , mains blips which have hung up the router, and in terms of re-booting - I am the King!! Cheers, James -- James Brown
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