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Re: animation back-steps
Robert Moore
David did you notice that at around 0730 today the animations all took a
little back-step with the clouds reversing direction? I presume this is some little glitch at the EUMETSAT end. Robert Yes, there seemed to be one of the steps in the image that we sometimes observe. As if the scan mirror or its position sensor gets a few lines out. Cheers, David ------------------------------ Robert Moore tel and fax: 44 (0) 1352 714456
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MSG PAYMENT PROBLEMS SORTED
BARRY DAY <barryday@...>
I got an E-mail from John M0ADS, He sugested sending the euro CASH via the
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royal mail, so I went to the PO and was told that what I want is " SIGNEDFOR " the cash is insured and must be signed for at the other end, you can send anything of value useing this service, it cost me �3.68 all incl and should be there tomorrow, I can also track it on the internet.. Thanks John. Hope this is of great interest to others with this problem 73's Barry (G3WIS)
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From: "BARRY DAY" <barryday@tiscali.co.uk> To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Re: MSG PAYMENT PROBLEM HELP Ok David thank for clearing that point up I been into town today and as athe dearest at �15.00, TSB �10, Abbey National �10.00, Halifax �10.00, 1sthttp://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: MSG PAYMENT PROBLEM HELP
BARRY DAY <barryday@...>
Thanks again Douglas for clearing that point up I'll go and pay my bit, hi.
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Barry
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From: "Douglas Deans" <douglas@dsdeans.freeserve.co.uk> To: "MSG-1" <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:04 AM Subject: Re: [MSG-1] MSG PAYMENT PROBLEM HELP I fromnot ask for the KEY on the same transaction ie 100e. your country's licensing authority which for us will be the UK Met.Office. That will be issued in accordance with what you have applied for in yourthe authority (once you have completed your application/payment).be free for those in the UK (thanks to RIG).
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Re: MSG PAYMENT PROBLEM HELP
BARRY DAY <barryday@...>
Ok David thank for clearing that point up I been into town today and as a
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point of interest Natwest charges are the cheapest at �8.00, Thomas Cook the dearest at �15.00, TSB �10, Abbey National �10.00, Halifax �10.00, 1st Direct �10.00.. Chears Barry
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From: "David Taylor" <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:12 AM Subject: [MSG-1] Re: MSG PAYMENT PROBLEM HELP Barry, you cannot get your e-token until you have the necessarylicence from your country's licensing authority which for us will be
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Re: MSG PAYMENT PROBLEM HELP
Barry, you cannot get your e-token until you have the necessarylicence from your country's licensing authority which for us will be the UK Met. Office. So therefore you will need to pay twice to Eumetsat, once for the software today and once for the eToken later, so there will be two lots of bank charges. This is unfortunate, but it's the way it is right now. You will be able get data until March without the eToken, so there's plenty of time to save up! Compared to the cost of receiving the data directly from Meteosat 7, with a large dish for high-resolution PDUS reception, and the key unit, and the receiver, a few pounds for bank charges is quite insignificant, although I agree that any extra cost should be minimised. Cheers, David
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Re: MSG PAYMENT PROBLEM HELP
Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
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From: "BARRY DAY" <barryday@tiscali.co.uk> To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [MSG-1] MSG PAYMENT PROBLEM HELP Thanks Robert I'll do that and go to see Lloyds Barry, you cannot get your e-token until you have the necessary licence from your country's licensing authority which for us will be the UK Met. Office. That will be issued in accordance with what you have applied for in your application to Eumetsat. Eumetsat will forward your application data to the authority (once you have completed your application/payment). If you have applied for full data on an amateur basis that licence should be free for those in the UK (thanks to RIG). The trial continues until the end of January 2004 so you still have plenty of time. Regards Douglas.
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Re: MSG PAYMENT PROBLEM HELP
BARRY DAY <barryday@...>
Thanks Robert I'll do that and go to see Lloyds
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Eumetsat have only asked for 60e, I assume thats just for the S/W should I not ask for the KEY on the same transaction ie 100e. Barry Day
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From: "Robert Moore" <rsmoore@liverpool.ac.uk> To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [MSG-1] MSG PAYMENT PROBLEM HELP Barry - go and speak to your local branch. They should have a cheapermethod of transferring the money. I got a good deal through Lloyds, but forget thethe http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/bank �8.00 for a bank draft??
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DVB dish etc
Robert Moore
I ran a three day infra red animation 12th to 15th, western Europe. Not only did
this give a spectacular view of the storm forming but it enabled me to identify which part of the storn caused segment loss through dish-wobble. Centre of storm passed through Ireland and then across IOM. I had no segment loss on the leading edge of the storm as the fronts went through, but from the storm's closest point and along its trailing edge, as the wind went around to the NW, the segment losses occurred. A nice confirmation that it is NW winds that are my problem. Robert ------------------------------ Robert Moore tel and fax: 44 (0) 1352 714456
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Re: DVB Dishes
--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "Douglas Deans" <douglas@d...> wrote:
All those in the UK looking for dish wind tests should not bedisappointed in the next few days....assuming you can find them afterwards !! Looks particularly nasty for the west.I count myself lucky in having nothing to report from Edinburgh - it seemed to have died out by the time it got here. Sounds as if Robert's dish survived - that's good! Cheers, David
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Re: DVB Dishes
Robert Moore
I was away for the high winds here in N. Wales, so don't know exactly how it hit
my house. From my hospital bed (I'm fine folks!) it seemed to be south westerly gusting to force 8. I left MSG data Manager running and on my return noted some HRIT segment lossed from 1415 on 14th until 0200 today 15th, losses concentrated in the earlier part of the period. From then on, perfect reception. Robert Quoting Douglas Deans <douglas@dsdeans.freeserve.co.uk>: All those in the UK looking for dish wind tests should not be disappointed ------------------------------ Professor Robert Moore Department of Sociology, Social Policy and Social Work Studies The University of Liverpool Eleanor Rathbone Building Bedford Street South Liverpool L69 7ZA tel and fax: 44 (0) 1352 714456
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Re: MSG PAYMENT PROBLEM HELP
Robert Moore
Barry - go and speak to your local branch. They should have a cheaper method of
transferring the money. I got a good deal through Lloyds, but forget the details now. They did a direct transfer from my a/c to the EUMETSAT a/c. Robert Quoting BARRY DAY <barryday@tiscali.co.uk>: HI ALL, dose anyone know how to pay EUMETSAT with out haveing to pay the ------------------------------ Professor Robert Moore Department of Sociology, Social Policy and Social Work Studies The University of Liverpool Eleanor Rathbone Building Bedford Street South Liverpool L69 7ZA tel and fax: 44 (0) 1352 714456
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IODC data
Thanks for the update David. I imagine there are a few folk inEastern England who can receive Meteosat 5 directly, but it adds for the rest of us a further dimension to the global network. The possibilities of doing a Mercator mosaic using HRIT data is I guess getting nearer ;-)) Don't forget that you can already get the full resolution IODC binary data via FTP at 30 minute intervals, albeit 24 hours delayed (unless you have a Met Office licence, then near real-time perhaps?). The data will be LRIT, of course, but I guess you mean digital rather than WEFAX. Cheers, David
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Re: Latest e-mail from ops
James Brown
In message <bp5vci+74ai@eGroups.com>, David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk> writes
--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, James Brown <satellite@m...> wrote:Thanks for the update David. I imagine there are a few folk in Eastern England who can receive Meteosat 5 directly, but it adds for the rest of us a further dimension to the global network. The possibilities of doing a Mercator mosaic using HRIT data is I guess getting nearer ;-))Interesting stuff from OPS. A new format for you to wrestle withDavid for the IODC (MET 5) relay! Cheers, James -- James Brown
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Re: Latest e-mail from ops
--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, James Brown <satellite@m...> wrote:
Interesting stuff from OPS. A new format for you to wrestle withDavid for the IODC (MET 5) relay! Well, it seems that there may have been something lost in the translation, and it's the normal image segments we will be getting, derived from OpenMTP data. Should make it a little easier to get you data near to day one! Cheers, David
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Re: Latest e-mail from ops
--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "BARRY DAY" <barryday@t...> wrote:
Thanks David do you think they would take a travellers cheque?Barry, Traveller's cheques require a physical presence, I believe, so would involve you in a trip to Darmstadt! The majority opinion is that you should do what the rest of us have done - get a draft or cheque from your bank in Euros. The fact that you have to pay extra is something that you need to take up with the politicians who have kept us outside the Euro system. I believe that this topic is now closed. Cheers, David
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Re: Latest e-mail from ops
BARRY DAY <barryday@...>
Thanks David do you think they would take a travellers cheque?
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Re: Sky2PC USB
I have not encountered any problems so far. The only thing I havenoticed is the difference in Quality and SNR which as you say appear meaningless although more in line with those on my Digital STB. I found that the USB dongle was very unreliable on the one system I tested with the V2.4.8 drivers. For no apparent reason, the light on the dongle would go out and no data would be received. The system could be revived simply by unplugging and re-inserting the dongle (if you happened to be near the PC at the time), but the lost data was gone for ever. OK, it is uncertain what the exact problem was - on that system I am now running a 1m USB extension cable (having the dongle visible at the front of the PC it's much easier to check the status, but was there an issue before with bad contact?), and I am running a replacement dongle. However, the first dongle now seems to be running OK on a backup PC (also with the V4.2.2 drivers). That, coupled with the odd CPU utilisation pattern, says to me steer clear of V4.2.8. Cheers, David
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Re: Latest e-mail from ops
--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, James Brown <satellite@m...> wrote:
Interesting stuff from OPS. A new format for you to wrestle withDavid for the IODC (MET 5) relay! And hopefully we are going to find the UK Met office willing to supply us with a licence for the dongles. James, This announcement puzzles me. I am in touch with Eumetsat and have just received a data sample of Meteosat 5 data prepared for MSG-1 from July (unfortunately just a single segment). This is in segmented image format, just like all the other satellite data, and could easily be added to the program. However, the OPEN_MTP format is not compressed, or segemented, and the data files are huge. Even with BZ2 compression (as used on the FTP services) a single visible-channel file occupies over 8MB (for the 5000 x 5000 image). So receiving these files will be more difficult, and require that the OPEN-MTP file be stored on disk (probably being built up from chunks of files), and then read back in, be calibrated, and converted to an image. I hope that Eumetsat reconsider this format, and allow Meteosat 5 data to be sent in the segmented image format used for all other satellites. Cheers, David
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Re: Sky2PC USB
Peter Benney <tugboat@...>
Changing the drivers may not have been a wise move. With the PCII have not encountered any problems so far. The only thing I have noticed is the difference in Quality and SNR which as you say appear meaningless although more in line with those on my Digital STB. Peter
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Re: Sky2PC USB
Peter Benney <tugboat@...>
Eliminate the IPQ quandary???? Not really. The USB passes its data to theMy quandry was the B2C2 sharing IRQ18 with the onboard NIC, this is no longer the case with the USB Host Controller with IRQ21. Peter
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