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Re: TBS 5927 setup

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

On 25/09/2021 19:52, Terence O'Hanlon Smith via groups.io wrote:
Good evening all,
having replaced my suspect SR1 Rx with a
USB TBS-5927, I have carefully followed the Eumetsat setup guide for
that receiver, and with all settings exactly as on page 12, I have
obtained a signal strength of 75-80%, but at zero quality. I am
reasonably sure all the associated Modcom and PID settings are correct,
but obviously have no lock.
Has anyone any idea or experience of this, and of what may be amiss?
(I believe I have the dish correctly pointed, but cannot be absolutely
certain).

Thanks in anticipation,
Terence
Terence,

In case it helps, I have screenshots here:

https://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/dvb-s2/BDADataEx.html

and some background here:

https://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/dvb-s2/T1-T2.html#full-t2

The most common problem with the SR1 is bad power supply (Chinese), and
replacements are available from e.g. Amazon. Perhaps you've already been down
that route!

Most common reception issue is dish pointing.

Cheers,
David
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TBS 5927 setup

Terence O'Hanlon Smith
 

Good evening all,
having replaced my suspect SR1 Rx with a USB TBS-5927, I have carefully followed the Eumetsat setup guide for that receiver, and with all settings exactly as on page 12, I have obtained a signal strength of 75-80%, but at zero quality. I am reasonably sure all the associated Modcom and PID settings are correct, but obviously have no lock.
Has anyone any idea or experience of this, and of what may be amiss? (I believe I have the dish correctly pointed, but cannot be absolutely certain).

Thanks in anticipation,
Terence


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Re: LaPalma eruption animation using EUMETCast data from EUMETSAT.

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

On 25/09/2021 13:42, Ernst Lobsiger via groups.io wrote:
David,

yes it works. I noticed that depending on the Windows Region Settings you have
to use the right decimal delimiter.
German Germany:  -0,0055555555 will give an offset of -8 minutes (as used in my
RSS image generation scripts)
German Switzerland: -0.005555555 as we use a decimal point "." in floating
point numbers (not the comma ",")
If you use the wrong decimal delimiter with floating point numbers as above, no
time offset is added to the output.

As far as PowerShell is concerned: Don't waste your time with it. It's
overcomplex and rather dangerous as well.
I played with it one afternoon and can only say: This will *NEVER* replace CMD
for the kind of scripting some of
us use for EUMETCast reception. My use of a PowerShell Get-Date within a CMD
script will remain an exception.
As I use Get-Date for my PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit 3.0  I can expect users to
run Windows 10 64Bit (except for
Graham that certainly already plays with Windows 11, which must still have CMD,
as we heard no cry for help :-).

Regards,
Ernst
Many thanks for checking, Ernst. I would expect it to work with the settings
in the Windows software, but when needed I have sometimes used:

swap "." for country delimiter
swap "," for country delimiter
decode string to floating with the country delimiter

Sometimes external data (TLEs for example) have to be swapped internally when
reading.

Agreed on PowerShell, although there are some system things you can do with the
PowerShell (uninstall, for example) and some command script examples are now
given that way. "CMD" is now a little hidden (when right-clicking a directory,
for example) but at least in Win-10 they can easily be restored.

Cheers,
David
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Re: LaPalma eruption animation using EUMETCast data from EUMETSAT.

Ernst Lobsiger
 

On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 03:00 AM, David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺 wrote:
I would appreciate if you would check that the version I uploaded works without
my runtime libraries present - this will help other users. I have no systems
here which are without my runtimes!
David,

yes it works. I noticed that depending on the Windows Region Settings you have to use the right decimal delimiter.
German Germany:  -0,0055555555 will give an offset of -8 minutes (as used in my RSS image generation scripts)
German Switzerland: -0.005555555 as we use a decimal point "." in floating point numbers (not the comma ",")
If you use the wrong decimal delimiter with floating point numbers as above, no time offset is added to the output.

As far as PowerShell is concerned: Don't waste your time with it. It's overcomplex and rather dangerous as well.
I played with it one afternoon and can only say: This will *NEVER* replace CMD for the kind of scripting some of
us use for EUMETCast reception. My use of a PowerShell Get-Date within a CMD script will remain an exception.
As I use Get-Date for my PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit 3.0  I can expect users to run Windows 10 64Bit (except for
Graham that certainly already plays with Windows 11, which must still have CMD, as we heard no cry for help :-).

Regards,
Ernst


Re: LaPalma eruption animation using EUMETCast data from EUMETSAT.

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

On 25/09/2021 09:24, Ernst Lobsiger via groups.io wrote:
David,

that's kind of you. But as I said before I have already solved the problem by
using a PowerShell cmdlet in my CMD script.

for /f  %%G in ('"PowerShell Get-Date (Get-Date).AddMinutes(-8) -uFormat
+%%Y%%m%%d%%H%%M"') do set t=%%G

And this also works with other kind of +/- time offsets like .AddHours,
.AddDays, .AddYears, -uFormat is the UNIX format.
With this I can schedule on the fly RSS image production in Windows and produce
videos pretty much like with GNU/Linux.

Cheers,
Ernst
Ernst,

I will look at PowerShell one day, but my software will work on any version of
Windows, likely as far back as XP. You can add hours etc. simply using a
decimal fraction of a day with my program.

I would appreciate if you would check that the version I uploaded works without
my runtime libraries present - this will help other users. I have no systems
here which are without my runtimes!

Thanks,
David
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Re: LaPalma eruption animation using EUMETCast data from EUMETSAT.

Ernst Lobsiger
 

On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 12:26 AM, David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺 wrote:
Back in 2016 I did compile a version without VCL50.bpl requirements. I've
added it to the version on the Web:
David,

that's kind of you. But as I said before I have already solved the problem by using a PowerShell cmdlet in my CMD script.

for /f  %%G in ('"PowerShell Get-Date (Get-Date).AddMinutes(-8) -uFormat +%%Y%%m%%d%%H%%M"') do set t=%%G

And this also works with other kind of +/- time offsets like .AddHours, .AddDays, .AddYears, -uFormat is the UNIX format.
With this I can schedule on the fly RSS image production in Windows and produce videos pretty much like with GNU/Linux.

Cheers,
Ernst


Re: LaPalma eruption animation using EUMETCast data from EUMETSAT.

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

On 24/09/2021 10:12, Ernst Lobsiger via groups.io wrote:
Graham,

the error message says that "Vcl50.bpl" is not found. This sounds like a Delphi
(Borland Pascal Language) kind of DLL.
Do you have Delphi 5.0 installed that it works for you?? If the above is true
GetUTCDateTimeString should be compiled
with "Vcl50.bpl" statically linked. In any case I do not like to install
additional stuff to get such a simple program working.

Regards,
Ernst
Back in 2016 I did compile a version without VCL50.bpl requirements. I've
added it to the version on the Web:

https://www.satsignal.eu/software/disk.html#GetUtcDateTimeString

I trust this will work for you.

Cheers,
David
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Re: LaPalma eruption animation using EUMETCast data from EUMETSAT.

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

On 24/09/2021 10:12, Ernst Lobsiger via groups.io wrote:
Graham,

the error message says that "Vcl50.bpl" is not found. This sounds like a Delphi
(Borland Pascal Language) kind of DLL.
Do you have Delphi 5.0 installed that it works for you?? If the above is true
GetUTCDateTimeString should be compiled
with "Vcl50.bpl" statically linked. In any case I do not like to install
additional stuff to get such a simple program working.

Regards,
Ernst
Ernst,

Most of my software requires my runtime library package, installed by thousands
of users. When I first started publishing software there was a desire to keep
the programs and downloads small, hence the packages. Sorry if this wasn't in
the read-me.

https://www.satsignal.eu/software/runtime.html

There is no need to install Delphi, just the runtime Library Bundle:

The program already accepts floating point values, so -0.5 is 12 hours ago and
so forth.

Cheers,
David
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Re: LaPalma eruption animation using EUMETCast data from EUMETSAT.

Ernst Lobsiger
 

David and Graham,

I just tested in a black CMD window:

C:\Users\immpac>for /f  %G in ('"PowerShell Get-Date ((Get-Date).AddMinutes(-8)) -uformat +%Y%m%d%H%M"') do set gaga=%G

C:\Users\immpac>set gaga=202109241214

C:\Users\immpac>echo %gaga%
202109241214

C:\Users\immpac>for /f  "tokens=*" %G in ('"PowerShell Get-Date ((Get-Date).AddDays(-8)) -uformat +%Y%m%d%H%M"') do set gaga=%G

C:\Users\immpac>set gaga=202109161224

C:\Users\immpac>echo %gaga%
202109161224

Works as usual. Inside a batch script use %%G instead of %G. Now I have all the possibilities of the PowerShell Get-Date cmdlet inside CMD.
@David: Forget my request for a statically linked version of your GetUTCDateTimeString.exe. My problem is solved. This feels like CMD++  :-).

Kind regards,
Ernst


Re: LaPalma eruption animation using EUMETCast data from EUMETSAT.

Ernst Lobsiger
 

Graham,

I will certainly not install a runtime package to get that working. PowerShell itself seems to be *VERY* complicated and rather dangerous too.
But I just found out that the PowerShell date function seems to work inside CMD. So I can just use in a CMD script a one line command like:

PowerShell Get-Date ((Get-Date).AddMinutes(-8)) -uformat +%Y%m%d%H%M

If I can get the output of the above into a CMD variable or use it as a command line parameter for one of my scripts, the problem is solved,

Cheers,
Ernst


Re: LaPalma eruption animation using EUMETCast data from EUMETSAT.

Graham Woolf
 

Hi Ernst

No I dont have Delphi installed as a package but because I am running other software from David I did have to install his runtime packages

If you go to this page and look at question 2 I think you will see why I dont get the error

http://www.satsignal.eu/software/faq.htm

Kind Regards

Graham


Re: LaPalma eruption animation using EUMETCast data from EUMETSAT.

Ernst Lobsiger
 

Graham,

the error message says that "Vcl50.bpl" is not found. This sounds like a Delphi (Borland Pascal Language) kind of DLL.
Do you have Delphi 5.0 installed that it works for you?? If the above is true GetUTCDateTimeString should be compiled
with "Vcl50.bpl" statically linked. In any case I do not like to install additional stuff to get such a simple program working.

Regards,
Ernst

P.S. I have two Windows 10 PRO 64 latest version PCs. Both show the same error when starting GetUTCDateTimeString.
The error message (when closed by click) is repeated for every output string item like "Year" "Month" "Day" "Hour" ...


Re: LaPalma eruption animation using EUMETCast data from EUMETSAT.

Graham Woolf
 

Hi Ernst

I have been using Davids GetUTCDateTimeString right from day one when you started me off on the python route

I run it a bat file with Windows scheduler to process all my python scripts and havent had a moments problems

Works on Windows 11 64bit too

Kind Regards

Graham


Re: LaPalma eruption animation using EUMETCast data from EUMETSAT.

Ernst Lobsiger
 

On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 10:49 PM, David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺 wrote:
Your UTC for yesterday issue - back in 2005 I wrote a very simple program to do
that (GetUTCDateTimeString <offset>). It sets environment variables so you can
request the components you need.
David,

I know your GetUTCDateTimeString <offset> program:

https://www.satsignal.eu/software/disk.html#GetUtcDateTimeString

It never worked on my Windows 10 Pro 64 install.  It seems Windows 10 has some backward compatibility issues as well ;-)  !?
If you could update that and if it works with offsets in minutes e.g. like -8/1440=-0.0055555 for -8 minutes this would really help.

Regards,
Ernst




Re: LaPalma eruption animation using EUMETCast data from EUMETSAT.

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

On 23/09/2021 22:02, Ernst Lobsiger via groups.io wrote:
But there are probably less than 5 amateur Windows users on MSG-1 that are
interested
in scheduling stuff the way I just explained. Not exactly a new feeling for a
retired teacher.

I think to bring UNIX shells to Windows 10 is kind of similar to use Wine on
GNU/Linux.
For me those are bad ideas and I only used CygWin once recently to compile the xrit
decompressor for my PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit. EUMETSAT wasn't able or didn't want
to provide an XRITDecompress.exe for Windows 10 (I asked OPS long before to no
avail).


Cheers,
Ernst
I must admit to using scheduling all the time - admittedly mostly for overnight
and startup tasks, but yes, most amateur users want plug-and-go software. I
describe some of my software as "toolkit" meaning that some assembly is
required. Of course, that's also reflected in the low price. It's not a €1000
do-it-all single program - I see too many of those in the SDR area (some where
users expect support on free software!).

Your UTC for yesterday issue - back in 2005 I wrote a very simple program to do
that (GetUTCDateTimeString <offset>). It sets environment variables so you can
request the components you need.

I also wrote a shell around the wavelet decompressor - in my case it was for a
DLL which my software uses - likely it would be easy to modify for your needs,
but I gather that's already done!

With an easy-to-use programming language (for me it's Delphi) limitations of
the shell are easy to overcome. Readability is very important as whatever one
does will later need to be modified.

Cheers,
David
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Re: LaPalma eruption animation using EUMETCast data from EUMETSAT.

Ernst Lobsiger
 

On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 08:27 AM, David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺 wrote:
Your contributions are very much appreciated - I use your scripting work every
day on all my EUMETCast PCs.

The default for scripting in the future will be the Power Shell. I've not used
it myself. I also recall that support for at least some Linux scripting
commands is built into the basic command language.
David,

I know you are using TCLogSummary on your receivers. But tell me the names of a
dozen EUMETCast users that scheduled TCLogSummary. Arne and maybe Graham
come to my mind. More than 35 years of DOS *.bat batch files and most users never
had an idea of what a script is (or simply forgot about everything the ever knew).
So how long will it take until a couple of TC users apply Windows OOP PowerShell?

Here is a simple problem that I had to solve in TCLogSummary with a lot of CMD
code more than 10 years ago: What is the UCT date of yesterday? The CMD date is
a botch to say the least. To automate PyTROLL/SatPy image generation of RSS slots
leads to the same problem. Unless you can wait for the corresponding EPIlogue file
and then trigger image processing you have to rely on timeliness. If you find out
that every 5 minutes RSS slot is received with EUMETCast 7 minutes after start,
then you can setup a simple schedule. Start with minute 3 in steps of 5 minutes.
So you trigger image generation at minutes 3, 8, 13, ... 53, 58 every hour 24/7.

At these times you simply subtract 8 minutes and format the slot time to run one
of my SatPy scripts. But how to subtract 8 minutes with CMD: Mission impossible!
If you use a capable shell like BASH (or lean and faster DASH) and the UTC time is
exactly 2021 September 23th 21:03 then its a short one-liner to get the slot time:

BASH (or DASH):
date -d "-8 min" +%Y%m%d%H%M
202109232055

I just found out that this is now also possible in PowerShell (took me one hour):

PowerShell (PS):
Get-Date ((Get-Date).AddMinutes(-8)) -uformat +%Y%m%d%H%M
202109232055

But there are probably less than 5 amateur Windows users on MSG-1 that are interested
in scheduling stuff the way I just explained. Not exactly a new feeling for a retired teacher.

I think to bring UNIX shells to Windows 10 is kind of similar to use Wine on GNU/Linux.
For me those are bad ideas and I only used CygWin once recently to compile the xrit
decompressor for my PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit. EUMETSAT wasn't able or didn't want
to provide an XRITDecompress.exe for Windows 10 (I asked OPS long before to no avail).


Cheers,
Ernst

P.S.
I'm not counting users like you, Ferdinand, Rob, Arne, Hugo, Graham and Douglas as
amateurs :-). So this discussion and maybe the PS line above might still be useful.


Re: LaPalma eruption animation using EUMETCast data from EUMETSAT.

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

On 23/09/2021 15:57, Ernst Lobsiger via groups.io wrote:
David,

yes and that's certainly what most Windows 10 users want because they never did
much more than click.
My Windows 10 contributions are for those few users that want more and the
freedom to add their own ideas.
Users of PyTROLL/SatPy will be ready when MTG1 and Metop second generation data
becomes available.

That's why I publish a final and heavily commented version of my script. The
last two days showed me again
how limited CMD scripting is. Compared with any GNU/Linux shell the CMD
possibilities are close to ridiculous.

Cheers,
Ernst
Ernst,

Your contributions are very much appreciated - I use your scripting work every
day on all my EUMETCast PCs.

The default for scripting in the future will be the Power Shell. I've not used
it myself. I also recall that support for at least some Linux scripting
commands is built into the basic command language. This should be available on
many Windows-10 PCs. One Google result I found:

https://itsfoss.com/install-bash-on-windows/

Cheers,
David
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Re: LaPalma eruption animation using EUMETCast data from EUMETSAT.

Ernst Lobsiger
 

On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 11:00 PM, David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺 wrote:
Just to remind Windows (or Linux/Wine users?) that animating in GeoSatSignal is
just a button click!
David,

yes and that's certainly what most Windows 10 users want because they never did much more than click.
My Windows 10 contributions are for those few users that want more and the freedom to add their own ideas.
Users of PyTROLL/SatPy will be ready when MTG1 and Metop second generation data becomes available.

That's why I publish a final and heavily commented version of my script. The last two days showed me again
how limited CMD scripting is. Compared with any GNU/Linux shell the CMD possibilities are close to ridiculous.

Cheers,
Ernst


Re: EUMETCastView v1.5.2 for Windows

Hugo
 

Hi Franz,

Thanks for the heads up... I did some experiments with the textures and forgot to change the code again ....
I will try to upload a new version as soon as possible.

Grts,
Hugo


Re: EUMETCastView v1.5.2 for Windows

Franz Berens
 

 
good morning hugo, your new version has an error in the transfer of the texture to the 3dglobe himawari and others are not or only partially put on. greetings franz
 
 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. Mai 2021 um 17:25 Uhr
Von: "Hugo" <hvanruys@...>
An: MSG-1@groups.io
Betreff: [MSG-1] EUMETCastView v1.5.2 for Windows
Hello,

I compiled the new version for Windows and uploaded it to github.
Some bugs in the display buttons are solved and you can set the image size for the Oblique Mercator projection.
This release can be downloaded from https://github.com/hvanruys/EUMETCastView/releases/tag/v1.5.2 

Cheers,
Hugo

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