590SG, Winkeyer3 and MMTTY
Danny Bush
Good Afternoon All,
Have any of you 590SG users been able to interface the K1EL WKUSB Winkeyer3 with MMTTY for stand alone Use with True FSK RTTY? Now before this opens Pandora's box with FSK / AFSK being the center point, I am just trying to find out if what I am trying to do has or can be done...without all of the discussion of FSK vs AFSK. I have been able to integrate N1MM/MMTTY with the above combination for Contest configuration, but I am being told that the transmitted signal is garbled..so I am not sure if the configuration is actually working or if something is still amiss. I know that what I am trying to do can be done with a Navigator, but I don't want to give up on the Winkeyer3's just yet...and I still have a MORTTY to try configuring as well with a TS480SAT. I would be Most Appreciative if someone would be willing to share their success of integrating a 590SG, Winkeyer3 and MMTTY as a stand alone, RTTY rag-chew type setup...Preferably with True FSK. I'm not too concerned with a contest type configuration. Thanks and 73, Danny NF4J
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MMTTY not keying radio
Jay Laferriere
I had everything on MMTTY setup on my computer to key my IC7300. I followed steps from YouTube videos. It was working just fine. Then I jumped off for a little bit and got back on. The program would not key my radio. Yes I changed bands from 20m to 40m but it would not key. Then I switched back to 20m and it seemed to work, but was glitchy. I reset my radio, reset my computer and nothing changed. It just stopped keying the radio. Help please? Radio :IC7300
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setup MMSSTV & icom 756 pro 2
cqdx2666@...
hey ya'll so this is my setup i have a home-built PC running win 10 and a Icom IC-756 Pro 2 connect to the PC via a USB cable and a audio cable going into a USB sound card with the sound out patched into a mix board i con not for the life of me figure out how to rx into my rig any help would rock
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Re: Yaesu FT-891---->SingnaLink USB---->MMTTY RTTY
The FT-891 does do true FSK as well as AFSK RTTY, and of course PSK, FT8, SSTV, FAX or other data modes. Its just a matter of having the correct interface and the radio menu settings correct. The difference between the FT891 and the FT-991/A. FTdx3K , FTdx1200 and the FTdx101D is that those models also include a built in USB sound card that the FT-891 doesn't have. All these models with a USB socket in the back have at least a dual USB serial port chip inside. This provides two separate COM ports (usually consecutively numbered) and identified as Enhanced and Standard. The Enhanced COM port is the radio CAT port using RXD/TXD with hardware flow control using RTS and DTR. Note X-ON/X-OFF software flow control is not supported. The Standard COM port RTS and DTR lines are used for Keying and PTT. Keying can be either CW or FSK depending on the mode. The RXD and TXD lines on this port are not used or connected in the FT-891. If you only want to do RTTY using FSK and not PSK or FT8 using MMTTY then you only need a single cable from the Data out pin of the DATA/PSK socket to the sound card input of your PC and a USB lead between the FT-891 and your PC for CAT, PTT and FSK TX Data like this diagram from the Advanced User Manual for the FT-891. If you want to use the FT-891 for PSK or FT8 then you will need to include TX AFSK capability with either another cable to connect the PC Sound Card output to the Data In connection in the DATA/PSK socket or use an external sound card adaptor like the Signallink USB to provide the connections. These are the menu settings that need to be set for RTTY FSK keying and PTT using MMTTY. Mode to RTTY Whether you use LSB or USB (R-L or R-U ) and High or Low tones will depend on your preferences, but note that you may need to reverse either decode or encode to match RTTY received. See below * PC Keying and FSK using Menu 07-12 as below But note that whether RTS or DTR controls FSK or PTT depends on how PC keying is set vis: With MMTTY FSK keying you use the Virtual Comport driver (EXTFSK64 if 64bit or EXTFSK if 32Bit Windows) to link the FSK out of MMTTY to the FSK connection on the standard comport of the radio. Here is a capture from my setup You can see that the two Com ports in my case are COM3 and COM4. COM3 is the CAT port set at 4800Baud. The TX keying page shows that I am using the EXTFSK64.exe for FSK and PTT and the screen for that is at the bottom left showing that COM4 is being used for FSK and PTT with FSK on DTR and PTT on RTS to match the Menu 07-12 setting above. Note also that the frequency of the FT-891 shows correctly on the MMTTY screen because I am using V1.70e or later, which fixed the CAT frequency error which occurred when the FT-991 was introduced that added the 100's of MHz to the CAT Frequency setup. Hope this helps. it does work and the TX signal is much cleaner from using the internal FSK generator in the radio. 73 de Paul G3WYW * Tones and Shift in RTTY: Convention is that the HIGHEST RF frequency is the MARK tone and also by convention LSB ( Lower Side Band ) is used for RTTY even above 7MHz. This means that the Lowest Audio frequency is the Mark one. See in the MMTTY screen capture above, my MARK frequency is 1275Hz. I am using LO tones ( I'm in Europe) and with 170Hz shift my SPACE tone is 1445Hz. Using Lower Side Band you can see that the MARK tone (1275Hz) will generate the highest RF frequency and the SPACE tone (1445Hz ) will generate a lower RF frequency. e.g. Carrier 14090.00KHz , MARK tone is 1275Hz so MARK RF frequency is 14090.00 - 1.275 = 14088.725KHz and the SPACE RF frequency is thus 14088.555KHz which is lower than the MARK frequency by the 170Hz Shift. It is important to recognize that using USB with Lower or Higher Tones will mean that your signal could be inverted compared to someone using LSB resulting in decoding gibberish and/or transmitting it as well. A Google search will provide more information on this topic.
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Re: Yaesu FT-891---->SingnaLink USB---->MMTTY RTTY
Sam
MMTTY doesn't really use CAT (or CI-V ICOM) commands. And as far as I can tell the FT891 doesn't do true FSK. It's predecessor, the 857 didn't either. Plenty of radios from the 1980s and 90s do. Looks like the USB port on the 891 replaces the CAT jack on the 857. Too bad Yeasu didn't do the same thing that ICOM did when they added the USB port on the IC7100 (and other models) by adding a sound card chip in the radio. So in your case, the best way to use MMTTY is through the DATA jack. And don't bother to buy the optional cable for it. It's a PS/2 jack. Cut the cable off a PS/2 mouse and wire it into an RJ45 jack for your Signal Link. Once you have this cable made and your Signal Link jumpered for it, you'll find it will work with a slew of other radios without reconfiguring the Signal Link. That jack is a Packet Standard and every manufacturer that uses it wires them EXACTLY the same way. I use my Signal link that way on my IC7000, IC7100 and my friend's FT857 without the need of swapping jumpers. Works the same way on my RigBlaster after I modified it to use the DATA OUT pin for pass through of the radio's audio rather than using the external speaker jack. And once you get it working with MMTTY, it will work with DigiPan, MMSSTV, HRD, MixW and a bunch of other Digi programs...
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Re: Yaesu FT-891---->SingnaLink USB---->MMTTY RTTY
Hi Paul, my email is joe.dempster@gmail. I could send you some screen shots of my MMTTY setup if needed. MMTY Profile is MMTY default
FT-891: MTTY TX does key the 891. AFC is on, but at this time no CAT connect to the 891. Can I add a USB link from my PC to the 891 to do this in addition to my SignaLink USB cable to the 8 pin round RTTY/DATA port to add CAT control? It looks like MMTY can send FSK or AFSK. I am not sure how I set up one or another, or if that is even necessary. Here are the settings I have: 891 RTTY on in MODE SELECT (which causes my A frequency to display R-L). My RTTY settings on the 891 are 11-05 MIC SELECT REAR, 11-07 AUTO, RTTY menu 10-0x: 10-01 LCUT FREQ 500Hz, 10-02 LCUT SLOPE 16dB/OCt, 10-03 HCUT FREQ 3000Hz, 10-04 HCUT SLOP 16dB/OCt, 10-05 SHIFT PORT SHIFT, 10-06 POLARITY-R NOR, 10-07 POLARITY-T NOR, 10-08 OUT LEVEL 50, 10-09 SHIFT FREQ 170Hz, 10-10 MARK FREQ 2125Hz, 10-11 BFO LSB 73 Joe K2EVK
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Re: Yaesu FT-891---->SingnaLink USB---->MMTTY RTTY
Hi Joe,
I've been away from this reflector for a bit, so may have missed any earlier posts about the FT-891 and MMTTY. I have used my FT-891 with a SCU-17 and also a home brew cable. Can you provide more information on the setup you have and what settings you may have changed in the FT-891 and also what you have setup on MMTTY. 73 Paul G3WYW
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Yaesu FT-891---->SingnaLink USB---->MMTTY RTTY
I can copy FSK31 on another Windows 10 control app. I have been working off and on for a couple of days and have not made any progress.
RX of random characters MMTTY will key the FT-891 Has anyone used the FT-891 with MMTTY?
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Re: Help:
Adrian Fewster
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Re: No models listed - is this normal?
Thanks Joe, that was fast. I'll carry on then, can't wait to get back on RTTY.
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Re: No models listed - is this normal?
Joe Subich, W4TV
Entirely normal. If your 7300 is set to the default settings for
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CI-V Transceive (ON), simply select Icom CI-V (no inquiry). If you have set CI-V Transceive to OFF (for working with another logging program), use Icom CI-V. 73, ... Joe, W4TV
On 2020-05-30 9:30 AM, GW4XCA-Bob wrote:
Just installing MMTTY for the first time and got as far as setting up the radio (IC-7300).
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No models listed - is this normal?
Just installing MMTTY for the first time and got as far as setting up the radio (IC-7300).
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Re: 7610
Tony Chamberlain
Thanks Jamie
I’ve resolved the issue by changing the alignment frequency for MMTTY in N1MM+ digital mode settings to 1500 Hz rather than the 2125 that it had defaulted to.
I understood the need to tune off the carrier frequency but hadn’t got as far as checking the alignment frequencies.
I guess there’s a similar setting in standalone MMTTY which I will look for.
I didn’t get the same issue with the IC 7300
Hopefully it will help anyone else with the same issue.
73 Tony G0AKC
From: Jamie WW3S
Sent: 14 May 2020 20:29 To: MMTTY-SB-RTTY@groups.io; MMTTY-SB-RTTY@groups.io Subject: Re: [MMTTY-SB-RTTY] 7610
I dont use AFSK, but if its working in FSK and not AFSK, I'm guessing the offset is set incorrectly or differently. with AFSK you need to tune off the carrier freq to properly decode, depending on the software setting, typically 2125 Kc....
------ Original Message ------ From: "Tony Chamberlain" <g0akc@...> Sent: 5/14/2020 12:52:24 PM Subject: Re: [MMTTY-SB-RTTY] 7610
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Re: 7610
Jamie WW3S
I dont use AFSK, but if its working in FSK and not AFSK, I'm guessing the offset is set incorrectly or differently. with AFSK you need to tune off the carrier freq to properly decode, depending on the software setting, typically 2125 Kc....
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From: "Tony Chamberlain" <g0akc@...>
Sent: 5/14/2020 12:52:24 PM
Subject: Re: [MMTTY-SB-RTTY] 7610
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Re: 7610
Tony Chamberlain
Things have moved on since I sent the earlier email
Anyone else had this – unable to receive in MMTTY with ‘LSB D’ and narrow filter with the IC7610?
Thanks and 73 de Tony G0AKC
From: MMTTY-SB-RTTY@groups.io <MMTTY-SB-RTTY@groups.io> on behalf of Tony Chamberlain <g0akc@...>
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 5:40:41 PM To: MMTTY-SB-RTTY@groups.io <MMTTY-SB-RTTY@groups.io> Subject: Re: [MMTTY-SB-RTTY] 7610 Jamie
I got myself an IC7610
As you mention, you can use the two virtual ports that the 7610 sets up on the USB interface.
I have FSK working from MMTTY/EXTFSK – but only if the radio is in ‘RTTY’ mode. In that mode I don’t seem to have receive audio (via the USB codec) in MMTTY
I do get audio to MMTTY over USB if I use ‘SSB D’ (say SSBD1) mode – but then have to have AFSK for RTTY transmit.
What mode should/can the radio be in for FSK RTTY from MMTTY?
This doesn’t seem to be mentioned in the Icom manuals.
Thanks in advance
Tony G0AKC
From: MMTTY-SB-RTTY@groups.io <MMTTY-SB-RTTY@groups.io> on behalf of Jamie WW3S <ww3s@...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 5:28:17 PM To: MMTTY-SB-RTTY@groups.io <MMTTY-SB-RTTY@groups.io> Subject: Re: [MMTTY-SB-RTTY] 7610 You don’t need an external interface for either radio, Big difference between the two radios is the 7610 creates two virtual ports, so you can use fsk directly using the second port....with the 7300, you’ll need a port splitter and extfsk .
I use VPSE for my port splitter, others used com0com....
On May 6, 2020, at 11:12 AM, Tony Chamberlain <g0akc@...> wrote:
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Re: 7610
Tony Chamberlain
Jamie
I got myself an IC7610
As you mention, you can use the two virtual ports that the 7610 sets up on the USB interface.
I have FSK working from MMTTY/EXTFSK – but only if the radio is in ‘RTTY’ mode. In that mode I don’t seem to have receive audio (via the USB codec) in MMTTY
I do get audio to MMTTY over USB if I use ‘SSB D’ (say SSBD1) mode – but then have to have AFSK for RTTY transmit.
What mode should/can the radio be in for FSK RTTY from MMTTY?
This doesn’t seem to be mentioned in the Icom manuals.
Thanks in advance
Tony G0AKC
From: MMTTY-SB-RTTY@groups.io <MMTTY-SB-RTTY@groups.io> on behalf of Jamie WW3S <ww3s@...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 5:28:17 PM To: MMTTY-SB-RTTY@groups.io <MMTTY-SB-RTTY@groups.io> Subject: Re: [MMTTY-SB-RTTY] 7610 You don’t need an external interface for either radio, Big difference between the two radios is the 7610 creates two virtual ports, so you can use fsk directly using the second port....with the 7300, you’ll need a port splitter and extfsk .
I use VPSE for my port splitter, others used com0com....
On May 6, 2020, at 11:12 AM, Tony Chamberlain <g0akc@...> wrote:
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Re : Re: [MMTTY-SB-RTTY] 7610
yvan skopek
I tested N1MM, it is very complicated there are too much « bells and whistles », config for each contest look like a marathon....
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In UCX Log nothing to config, only the drive for backup automatic... I use it about 20 years... vy 73 Yvan HB9CSM
Le samedi, mai 9, 2020, 00:22, Larry Stowell K1ZW <wa2fif@...> a écrit :
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Re: 7610
Larry Stowell K1ZW
To everybody that assisted I got it working, I wanted to get mmty working as a stand alone
first. than sue it with another logging program. All of the videos jump right into N1MM+ (not my favorite) use to
use it back in day, before the plus. Anyway thanks again 73 Larry K1ZW
On 5/6/2020 12:20 PM, Jamie WW3S wrote:
google K0PIR, he has a good video on his site....
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Re: 7610
Tnx for the info. I just received my New 7300 yesterday and was planing on setting it up today.
I'm sure that you just saved me what little hair I have left on my hear..
Joe K2DS
From: MMTTY-SB-RTTY@groups.io <MMTTY-SB-RTTY@groups.io> on behalf of Adrian Engele via groups.io <aa5uk@...>
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 8:31 AM To: mmtty-sb-rtty@groups.io <mmtty-sb-rtty@groups.io> Subject: Re: [MMTTY-SB-RTTY] 7610 I use FSK on my 7300. This setup works like a charm!
This should work just as well with the 7610. Good luck! Single UBS cable does it all.
73, Adrian AA5UK
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Re: 7610
Adrian Engele
I use FSK on my 7300. This setup works like a charm! This should work just as well with the 7610. Good luck! Single UBS cable does it all.
73, Adrian AA5UK
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