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Re: Scopes issue

Ed Radlo
 

Lou:

Drag the left edge of the MMTTY window to the left to make it bigger, then drag it back to the right to make the MMTTY window the size you want it.

That should get those two vertical lines to be more widely spaced.

It works for me.

73,  Ed  AJ6V


-----Original Message-----
From: Lou Laderman W0FK <lladerman@...>
To: MMTTY-SB-RTTY@groups.io
Sent: Sat, Oct 17, 2020 7:46 am
Subject: [MMTTY-SB-RTTY] Scopes issue

This is a cross-post from one I made on the N1MM+ goup.

The MMTTY panel scopes in N1MM+ worked great last evening, but today the graphs are essentially gone. In RX, this is all I see. XY scope size is set to big, and FFT width set to auto. The FFT scope isn't showing up. I've tried different settings to no avail. N1MM+ version is 1.0.8701.0, the most recent.





In Transmit, I see my signal but it's really tiny on the scopes:



I have no idea what's going on or what to do to fix it.  I've quit the program and rebooted, rescaled the MMTTY window, and double checked settings (no changes). Rig is an Ic-7610, Sound card settings appear OK, setting my 7610 mic level in sound properties higher leads to an overflow. The FFT signal and waterfall do not line up. I've reset PBT on the radio, nothing seems to work to correct the tuning graphs.

Suggestions greatly appreciated.

73, Lou W0FK


Re: Scopes issue

Phil Cooper
 

Hi Lou,

 

Looking at the picture, you have your Mark frequency set to 660. Try setting it to 2125 or 1275, and see what happens.

You are clearly receiving something, as the waterfall is showing the RTTY tramlines of a signal.

 

Also, I always find that when I start N1MM+, the MMTTY window needs to be dragged a little to the right, then resized back to where it was.

 

Hope that helps…

 

73 de Phil GU0SUP

 

 

From: MMTTY-SB-RTTY@groups.io [mailto:MMTTY-SB-RTTY@groups.io] On Behalf Of Lou Laderman W0FK
Sent: 17 October 2020 15:46
To: MMTTY-SB-RTTY@groups.io
Subject: [MMTTY-SB-RTTY] Scopes issue

 

This is a cross-post from one I made on the N1MM+ goup.

The MMTTY panel scopes in N1MM+ worked great last evening, but today the graphs are essentially gone. In RX, this is all I see. XY scope size is set to big, and FFT width set to auto. The FFT scope isn't showing up. I've tried different settings to no avail. N1MM+ version is 1.0.8701.0, the most recent.





In Transmit, I see my signal but it's really tiny on the scopes:



I have no idea what's going on or what to do to fix it.  I've quit the program and rebooted, rescaled the MMTTY window, and double checked settings (no changes). Rig is an Ic-7610, Sound card settings appear OK, setting my 7610 mic level in sound properties higher leads to an overflow. The FFT signal and waterfall do not line up. I've reset PBT on the radio, nothing seems to work to correct the tuning graphs.

Suggestions greatly appreciated.

73, Lou W0FK


Re: Scopes issue

Danny Bush
 

Lou,

All I do when that happens is: I maximize the screen by clicking on the square in the upper right corner of that image, then minimize it by clicking the square again...it repopulates the scope so that it displays at its correct resolution. All of the changing the software really isn't necessary. Take care

73,
Danny Bush - NF4J

On 10/24/20, 08:32 Lou Laderman W0FK <lladerman@...> wrote:
I forgot to post here that I resolved the issue by moving back the software to 1.68. I’ve yet to reinstall 1.7 to try the rescaling. Thanks for your reply

73, Lou W0FK


Re: Scopes issue

Lou Laderman W0FK
 

I forgot to post here that I resolved the issue by moving back the software to 1.68. I’ve yet to reinstall 1.7 to try the rescaling. Thanks for your reply

73, Lou W0FK


Re: Scopes issue

pete.thomas.fi
 

Have you rescaled the scope window?
Known bug.
73'
Oh2euu

la 24. lokak. 2020 klo 13.30 Lou Laderman W0FK <lladerman@...> kirjoitti:

This is a cross-post from one I made on the N1MM+ goup.

The MMTTY panel scopes in N1MM+ worked great last evening, but today the graphs are essentially gone. In RX, this is all I see. XY scope size is set to big, and FFT width set to auto. The FFT scope isn't showing up. I've tried different settings to no avail. N1MM+ version is 1.0.8701.0, the most recent.





In Transmit, I see my signal but it's really tiny on the scopes:



I have no idea what's going on or what to do to fix it.  I've quit the program and rebooted, rescaled the MMTTY window, and double checked settings (no changes). Rig is an Ic-7610, Sound card settings appear OK, setting my 7610 mic level in sound properties higher leads to an overflow. The FFT signal and waterfall do not line up. I've reset PBT on the radio, nothing seems to work to correct the tuning graphs.

Suggestions greatly appreciated.

73, Lou W0FK


Scopes issue

Lou Laderman W0FK
 

This is a cross-post from one I made on the N1MM+ goup.

The MMTTY panel scopes in N1MM+ worked great last evening, but today the graphs are essentially gone. In RX, this is all I see. XY scope size is set to big, and FFT width set to auto. The FFT scope isn't showing up. I've tried different settings to no avail. N1MM+ version is 1.0.8701.0, the most recent.





In Transmit, I see my signal but it's really tiny on the scopes:



I have no idea what's going on or what to do to fix it.  I've quit the program and rebooted, rescaled the MMTTY window, and double checked settings (no changes). Rig is an Ic-7610, Sound card settings appear OK, setting my 7610 mic level in sound properties higher leads to an overflow. The FFT signal and waterfall do not line up. I've reset PBT on the radio, nothing seems to work to correct the tuning graphs.

Suggestions greatly appreciated.

73, Lou W0FK


Re: 2m or 70cm RTTY

Richard Linder
 

I, too, was in Navy Mars (LHP), did some time on the Antarctic Spec Net,  Running night time rtty/phone patch traffic into McMurdo and Pole Sta..  I was active-duty summer support for Deep Freeze there at Port Hueneme...  Ran a tribander, and an old single tube Heathkit PA and a Kenwood TS-520 with the Mars crystal had a Fleischer and ST-6 mod/demod..  Good propagation then, 300W would get me into McMurdo pretty reliable for 75bd rtty..
When I moved from Region 6 to NY, the to NC, NMCMars migrated from RTTY to MT-65.. 


Re: 2m or 70cm RTTY

Richard Linder
 

We had a 10/70 repeater in the LA area, I lived in Oxnard, received a good signal from that mountain top.  Sunday evening was the rtty art (pix) net.  Received signal on IC-22 and decoded with ST-6 (kit with all white wire).. Model 28 and 19 printer.  Great times.  When you left the room with the Model 28 closed and returned an hour later, the odor of warm lube oil permeated the room as well as the huge coil of canary yellow paper on the floor with all the received pix.
regards
wb7ond
wb6dqh(at the time)


Re: 2m or 70cm RTTY

Ed Sharpe
 

what year was that John?  Ed#
 

In a message dated 10/10/2020 10:25:41 AM US Mountain Standard Time, jeigenbrode@... writes:
 
I was in Region 7 Navy MARS and we had a two meter repeater and used it to sent bulletins etc via RTTY using AFSK and most had a setup for Autostart to receive traffic automatically.
73,
John W3SA (ex ASE2 NNN0IUB

On Oct 10, 2020, at 11:37 PM, larry fields <n6hpx1@...> wrote:

I was from the Bay area and was a member of EBARC and CCCC and use to work alot of the repeaters I joined in 1982 at the time.
 
appreciate the feedback on this 
 
Thanks and 73
Larry Fields: du1/n6hpx 
du1/n6hpx@... 
 
MANILA PH (PH:9163405944(GLOBE))
===============================
CLUBS
ARRL 
DX1PAR, 7095 Khz
DX1PRS 145.340 Mhz
DX1AFP  432.440 Mhz
 
 













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On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 11:21 AM larry fields via groups.io <n6hpx1=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Thanks all i will see if our groups here would want to do this on uhf or vhf, a few are interested in rtty but never tried it. Thanks again from larry 
 
 
 
Sent from my Mi phone
Oct 10, 2020 03:30 wrote on Dick Wilson <k6lrn12@...>:
 
The repeater was K6GWE on 146.10/70 Mt. Tamalpais just north of San Francisco. 
I had a borrowed 28 with a Fleisher TU in the bedroom of our mobile home. 
AIR, it was the later 1970s. 

Dick K6LRN

On 10/9/2020 7:17 AM, Mel Cruts wrote:
I recall when I lived in northern California about 25 years ago that there was a local 2 meter repeater dedicated to RTTY.  It was on FM and those who used it merely fed the AFSK tones to their 2 meter FM rig to access it.  It worked quite well.  
 
If you choose to do RTTY in the weak signal area of the 2 meter band with AFSK on SSB then frequency stability becomes a concern.  One would need the high stability VFO feature in their transceiver.  On 70 cm, the frequency stability would become even more of a concern.
73,
Mel - KF6OZ
 
 


Re: 2m or 70cm RTTY

Hank Riley
 

I think Larry (in the Philippines) is asking for the UTC of the net Steve mentioned, so the answer is simply 13:30 to 15:00 UTC if Steve is using Eastern Standard Time (EST), or 12:30 to 14:00 if Eastern Daylight Time (EDT). 

I think it's the former.

Hank
_____________________________________________________________


On Saturday, October 10, 2020, 03:17:39 PM EDT, scm325 <highpwr@...> wrote:

Somebody was asking about nets, there is a quasi-informal military net Saturday mornings between 08:30 and 10:00 am eastern 7087, 850 shift.

Steve
KM4V


Re: 2m or 70cm RTTY

larry fields
 

I guess when I go on the contest I will do the update each time. this one i am on is never on RTTY or FT or SSTV
 
Thanks and 73
Larry Fields: du1/n6hpx 
du1/n6hpx@... 


Re: 2m or 70cm RTTY

Brian Heywood
 

Ok larry,

Then the correct UTC time now is 3:16 am (or 0316) 11 October 2020.

73, Brian, ZL1IE

 
On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 3:57 PM Larry Fields <n6hpx1@...> wrote:
whats the UTC on this I have been using it for 4 yrs here and plan to get our club members involved in this.


Re: 2m or 70cm RTTY

larry fields
 
Edited

also note my computer is set for utc not standard time since I am in the Philippines not in USA
 
Thanks and 73
Larry Fields: du1/n6hpx 
du1/n6hpx@... 


Re: 2m or 70cm RTTY

larry fields
 
Edited

I AM using a different machine I got 2 computers and this one I seldom use
 
Thanks and 73
Larry Fields: du1/n6hpx 
du1/n6hpx@... 


Re: 2m or 70cm RTTY

larry fields
 
Edited

whats the UTC on this I have been using it for 4 yrs here and plan to get our club members involved in this. I am using Signalink usb, and MMTTY/N1mm+ for my set up.
Thanks and 73
Larry Fields: du1/n6hpx 
du1/n6hpx@... 


Re: 2m or 70cm RTTY

larry fields
 
Edited

I ran this idea past my group this morning and so far its been favored, were waiting for more input to this. We have 6 frequencies here and 5 are UHF. 
 
My thoughts is 444.350 mHz for the RTTY which we can learn and adjust to the program and even train ourselves for contests. In our video chat this morning we discussed it and so far many like the idea. We have a JS8CALL group here and they been doing good but small membership as well.
 
We have several Hams that run rtty during the contests and alot of who want to learn, so maybe we will have more joining our ranks on the RTTY world.
 
Thanks and 73
Larry Fields: du1/n6hpx 
du1/n6hpx@... 
 


Re: 2m or 70cm RTTY

scm325
 

Somebody was asking about nets, there is a quasi-informal military net Saturday mornings between 08:30 and 10:00 am eastern 7087, 850 shift

 

Steve

KM4V

 

From: MMTTY-SB-RTTY@groups.io <MMTTY-SB-RTTY@groups.io> On Behalf Of Kai-KE4PT
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2020 10:09 AM
To: MMTTY-SB-RTTY@groups.io; mel@...; COURYHOUSE@...
Subject: Re: [MMTTY-SB-RTTY] 2m or 70cm RTTY

 

Ed,
Regarding historical info:
I learned about RTTY from the 13 classic articles by Irvin M. Hoff, K8DKC, published between January 1965 and September 1966 in QST. Irvin covered all aspects of RTTY in those articles. My second source was the kind help that I received from several folk on this reflector before my first RTTY QSOs in January of 2010.

[One of my bucket items is to operate a "steam RTTY" station - teletype machine, paper tape, and the sweet smell of fine machine oil - and to make at least one QSO using that venerable "original" equipment!]

Kindest regards,
Kai, KE4PT

On 10/9/2020 15:07, Ed Sharpe via groups.io wrote:

if  you  have  any  historical info    for  us  to re publish

 


Re: 2m or 70cm RTTY

John Eigenbrode
 

I was in Region 7 Navy MARS and we had a two meter repeater and used it to sent bulletins etc via RTTY using AFSK and most had a setup for Autostart to receive traffic automatically.
73,
John W3SA (ex ASE2 NNN0IUB

On Oct 10, 2020, at 11:37 PM, larry fields <n6hpx1@...> wrote:

I was from the Bay area and was a member of EBARC and CCCC and use to work alot of the repeaters I joined in 1982 at the time.

appreciate the feedback on this 

Thanks and 73
Larry Fields: du1/n6hpx 
du1/n6hpx@... 

MANILA PH (PH:9163405944(GLOBE))
===============================
CLUBS
ARRL 
DX1PAR, 7095 Khz
DX1PRS 145.340 Mhz
DX1AFP  432.440 Mhz
















Virus-free. www.avg.com

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 11:21 AM larry fields via groups.io <n6hpx1=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Thanks all i will see if our groups here would want to do this on uhf or vhf, a few are interested in rtty but never tried it. Thanks again from larry 



Sent from my Mi phone
Oct 10, 2020 03:30 wrote on Dick Wilson <k6lrn12@...>:

The repeater was K6GWE on 146.10/70 Mt. Tamalpais just north of San Francisco. 
I had a borrowed 28 with a Fleisher TU in the bedroom of our mobile home. 
AIR, it was the later 1970s. 

Dick K6LRN

On 10/9/2020 7:17 AM, Mel Cruts wrote:
I recall when I lived in northern California about 25 years ago that there was a local 2 meter repeater dedicated to RTTY.  It was on FM and those who used it merely fed the AFSK tones to their 2 meter FM rig to access it.  It worked quite well.  

If you choose to do RTTY in the weak signal area of the 2 meter band with AFSK on SSB then frequency stability becomes a concern.  One would need the high stability VFO feature in their transceiver.  On 70 cm, the frequency stability would become even more of a concern.
73,
Mel - KF6OZ





Re: 2m or 70cm RTTY

Kai-KE4PT
 

Ed,
Regarding historical info:
I learned about RTTY from the 13 classic articles by Irvin M. Hoff, K8DKC, published between January 1965 and September 1966 in QST. Irvin covered all aspects of RTTY in those articles. My second source was the kind help that I received from several folk on this reflector before my first RTTY QSOs in January of 2010.

[One of my bucket items is to operate a "steam RTTY" station - teletype machine, paper tape, and the sweet smell of fine machine oil - and to make at least one QSO using that venerable "original" equipment!]

Kindest regards,
Kai, KE4PT

On 10/9/2020 15:07, Ed Sharpe via groups.io wrote:
if  you  have  any  historical info    for  us  to re publish


Re: 2m or 70cm RTTY

larry fields
 
Edited

I was from the Bay area and was a member of EBARC and CCCC and use to work alot of the repeaters I joined in 1982 at the time.
 
appreciate the feedback on this 
 
Thanks and 73
Larry Fields: du1/n6hpx 
du1/n6hpx@...