Administrative posting

John Browning

Dear Group members

This notice will be sent out periodically to provide important information
about the group. A copy has also been posted to the group files.

It will be received by all new members on joining.

Best wishes

Brad Peadon (List owner and Moderator); John Browning (Co-Moderator)


This is the periodic Administrative Posting for the LRRSA discussion group.
You are strongly recommended to keep the latest copy of this message as you
may wish to refer to the useful information it contains relating to the
mailing group.

Version: 1.1 Last updated: 29 October 2006



A. Group Objectives
B. Email Etiquette
C. Conduct and rules for the Operation of this Group
D. Yahoo features for use of the group
E. Viruses


A. Group Objectives

The purpose of this email group is to enable LRRSA members and non-members
to exchange information about any aspects of past, present and preserved
Australian industrial, light and narrow-gauge railways. The area covered
includes Papua New Guinea, Fiji, the phosphate islands in the Indian and
Pacific Oceans, and wartime narrow gauge operations by Australian troops
abroad. The terms industrial, light, and narrow-gauge railways mean
different things to different people, but for the LRRSA they mean:

1. Industrial railways: railways or tramways that form part of an
industrial enterprise, such as sawmilling, sugar milling, mines and
quarries, steel mills, construction railways, explosives manufacture,
private sidings with “captive” stock, and tunnelling railways. Examples
include Bluescope Steel, Pilbara Rail, Manildra, Bundaberg Sugar, Powelltown
Tramway, Raminea Tramway, Mt Lyell Mining & Railway Co, Hume Reservoir
Construction, Laheys’ Canungra Tramway, Broken Hill Associated Smelters and
Wongawilli Colliery.

2. Light railways: local railways and tramways of any gauge built in a
light and economical fashion by organisations other than the government
railway systems and their successors. Examples include: WA Public Works
Department port tramways, Sorrento tramway, Kerang - Koondrook tramway,
Aramac tramway, Beaudesert Shire tramway.

3. Narrow-gauge railways: railways with a gauge of less than 3ft 6ins
(1067 mm) irrespective of ownership. Examples include the 2ft gauge railways
of the Tasmanian Government Railways and the 2ft 6ins gauge railways of the
Victorian Railways. (Most other narrow-gauge railways will already be
covered under the Industrial railways and/or Light railways heading.)

4. and anything else outside the above list that is not only generally
relevant but also quirky, peculiar, eccentric and/or weird.

What we generally exclude: (unless they might fall within item 4 above)

1. Railways of 3ft 6ins, 4ft 8½ins and 5ft 3ins gauge which formed part
of the state government railway systems and the Commonwealth (Australian
National) Railways

2. Metropolitan passenger carrying street tramways.

3. Miniature railways with a gauge of less than 15ins (381 mm)

By joining this group, are able to easily send messages to fellow group
members using just one email address. YahooGroups also makes it easy to
store photos and files, co-ordinate events and more.

Topics for discussion will include, but not necessarily be limited to:

1. Industries: Industry news that may affect associated industrial
rail, whether directly or not.

2. Current sightings: Visit reports and sightings from the current day,
whether of past or present operations.

3. Research: With questions, discussion, and findings

4. LRRSA News: Meetings, tours, publications and news.

5. Photography: Requests for photos, sharing of photos and discussion
of same.

6. Industrial railway modelling: For those who want to have the
industrial world at home.

7. Overseas: Welcome in cases of relevant important breaking industrial
railway news or as part of research that takes in operations, locomotives
and builders overseas.

Material posted on this group may be adapted by the editors of LRRSA
publications for use in those publications, including “Light Railways” and
the LRRSA web-site

The LRRSA Yahoogroup supports and encourages membership of the Cane Trains
Yahoogroup, an already established forum for all aspects of Australian cane
railway interest. This group can be found at:

The moderators and the Light Railway Research Society of Australia cannot be
held liable for the accuracy of any information published on this group. Any
such liability must be the responsibility of the group member publishing the
information. Opinions expressed do not necessarily conform with those of any
LRRSA member nor of the LRRSA Council.
Please read Sections B and C below before making your first posting.

This group is managed by LRRSA member Brad Peadon, assisted by John

To extend your knowledge and involvement in topics relevant to this group
you really also need to join the LRRSA. To obtain a membership application
and information, send a request by e-mail to

The LRRSA website is at


B. Email Etiquette

1. Please use subject headings and change them as necessary. Many users
read e-mail on the basis of the subject heading.

2. If you want to continue a discussion that has wandered off topic, or
is only likely to be of interest to one user, please email them directly
rather than posting to the group. Similarly if someone posts a message
asking if they are getting through.

3. Adding a signature is useful as headers may not include your full
(or real) name. Four lines is considered sufficient for a signature file.

4. When replying, please remember to snip the message to only include
the text you are replying to. It is annoying, to find several pages of email
repeated simply with one or two lines of text added.

5. If you are forwarding a message from elsewhere please delete any
"circulation list" of addresses as those people might not want their
addresses broadcast far and wide.

6. Read your message before hitting the 'send' button. It is all too
easy to say something in the heat of the moment which you may come to regret
later. If you are in any doubt about the suitability of your message, take a
break and review what you have written later.


C. Conduct and rules for the operation of this Group.

1. The entry status of members of the group is “moderated”. This means
that messages are viewed by the moderators before being approved for

2. Members may be moved to unmoderated status by the moderators if they
are personally known and are judged to exercise prudent judgment. Members
whose identities are unknown because of the use of aliases may therefore not
be moved from “moderated”. Completion of a Yahoo profile (see below) will
enable you to be better known and recognised by the moderators and by other

3. As with any friendly conversation, the subject under discussion may
sometimes run "off topic". These discussions are not prohibited on LRRSA,
but please consider whether your post is useful to the group as a whole. Be
considerate to the general feeling of the group, especially if you are
informed the discussion is moving off topic.

4. Messages shall not be defamatory or abusive, nor contain derogatory
remarks about others.

5. Messages shall not contain bad language or racist comments.

6. Personal religious and political statements should be avoided.
Religious and political comment should only be included if directly

7. Any commercial message must be related to the topics relevant to the
group. Any member standing to benefit personally as the result of a
commercial message is obliged to declare it as part of the message. Members
may advertise private sales of railway related items but commercial
advertising is not permitted.

8. If, in the judgement of the Moderators, any member posts an abusive
or inappropriate message the Moderators will give the member notice that
they have transgressed, and provide an opportunity for apology and/or
retraction. Persistent offenders may be barred from posting or, as a last
resort, removed from the Group.

9. Any moderated member having a message rejected will be informed, and
given the reason.

10. The Moderators' decision is final subject to formal appeal in
writing to the LRRSA Council.


D. Yahoo features for use of the group

For information on this service and how to use it, go to

If you can't access the web-site facilities, go to and Sign Up for a Yahoo! ID

To change the way you receive messages, go to

To post a message, send your message to

To post a photograph, go to

To post a file, go to

To unsubscribe, send a blank email to

To put your email message delivery on hold for the group, send a blank
message to:

To change your subscription to daily digest mode, send a blank message to:

To change your subscription to individual emails, send a blank message to:

To receive general help information, send a blank message to:

You can also contact the list owner by email on

To change the email address at which you wish to receive messages

1. Access "Yahoo" - will get
you there.

2. Click on [Account Info] - this shows a password box, enter password
etc, to get to [ID Card]

3. Under [Member Info] on [ID Card] - this shows one's CURRENT own
Email address as [Alt Email 1] click on [edit] to the right of the [Member
Info] banner

4. This shows [Email Info] - go to the box [Alt Email 1], showing one's
CURRENT own Email address, wipe with the cursor, then delete. Enter one's
NEW Email address.

5. Click on the [finished] button.

6. This drops back to the [ID Card] display, where the NEW Email
address will be displayed in the [Alt Email 1] box

7. Go to "My groups" and change the address there also


E. Viruses

VIRUSES CAN NOT AFFECT EMAILS TO THIS GROUP. Any virus warnings you receive
by email are almost certainly hoaxes, especially if they appear to come from
an authoritative source IBM, Microsoft, etc.) DO NOT forward them to other
people - this is what the hoaxer wants you to do.


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