Beyer Peacock Online


John Dennis <jdennis@...>
 

All,

People might know about this, but I have just recently been made aware
that the Manchester Museum of Science and Industry (MOSI) now has
Beyer Peacock drawings and photos online. The search page is here:

http://emu.msim.org.uk/htmlmn/collections/online/search.php?type=images

and enter "Beyer Peacock" in the drop down list of collection names.

Here's an interesting one for Frank:
http://emu.msim.org.uk/htmlmn/web/pages/common/imagedisplay_mosi.php?&irn=15803

A 2-4-0 with the description "Norwegian Government Railway
(Australia)".

Going to http://www.beyerpeacock.co.uk/loco%20list/Customerlist.PDF I
found that order number 6245 was for two locomotives of 3'6" gauge,
given builders numbers 2249-50.

Is the "(Australia)" annotation an error, or did Australia have a pair
of these 2-4-0Ts?

John
==========================================================
John Dennis jdennis@optusnet.com.au
Melbourne,Australia Home of the HOn30 Dutton Bay Tramway
and the Australian Narrow Gauge Web-Exhibition Gallery
Dutton Bay URL: http://members.optusnet.com.au/duttonbay
WebX http://members.optusnet.com.au/jdennis/ng_webex.html


Ron Martin <ronhil@...>
 

Hello John,

I would suggest that the 'Australia' is an annotation, signifying that these
locos which had been produced since 1868 for Norway, were the basis for the
Australian 2-6-0s.

On page 60 of 'Beyer Peacock, Locomotive Builders to the World', it says :

"For the South Australian narrow gauge lines, a 2-6-0 tender engine was
developed in 1875 from the Norwegian Government Railways 3ft 6in 2-4-0 tank
and a total of seventy-five was from then up to 1886. Many more were built
in Australia itself, and it became a classic type, used on most of the 3ft 6
in gauge lines on that continent."

Ron

-------Original Message-------

From: John Dennis
Date: 01/11/11 11:28:19
To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: [LRRSA] Beyer Peacock Online

All,

People might know about this, but I have just recently been made aware
that the Manchester Museum of Science and Industry (MOSI) now has
Beyer Peacock drawings and photos online. The search page is here:

http://emu.msim.org.uk/htmlmn/collections/online/search.php?type=images

and enter "Beyer Peacock" in the drop down list of collection names.

Here's an interesting one for Frank:
http://emu.msim.org.uk/htmlmn/web/pages/common/imagedisplay_mosi
php?&irn=15803

A 2-4-0 with the description "Norwegian Government Railway
(Australia)".

Going to http://www.beyerpeacock.co.uk/loco%20list/Customerlist.PDF I
found that order number 6245 was for two locomotives of 3'6" gauge,
given builders numbers 2249-50.

Is the "(Australia)" annotation an error, or did Australia have a pair
of these 2-4-0Ts?

John
==========================================================
John Dennis jdennis@optusnet.com.au
Melbourne,Australia Home of the HOn30 Dutton Bay Tramway
and the Australian Narrow Gauge Web-Exhibition Gallery
Dutton Bay URL: http://members.optusnet.com.au/duttonbay
WebX http://members.optusnet.com.au/jdennis/ng_webex.html



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Frank Stamford
 

Hello John,

That's a very interesting resource.

The "(Australia)" in the annotation is a mistake. Order No.6245 was, as
you say, for B/Nos 2249 and 2250. Both of these were for the NSB
(Norwegian State Railways), No.2249 being named "Gere" and 2250 "Freke".

Two locomotives of this type (but with cabs and stacks different to that
in the drawing) were supplied to Australia to The Jarrahdale Jarrah
Forests & Railways Ltd. They were B/No.2158 of 1882, and B/No.3120 of
1889, and named "Samson" and "Samson No.2".

The first of this type of locomotive was built for Norway in 1866, and
the type - which was very successful - inspired the 2-6-0 tender locos
widely used in South Austtralia, Western Australia, Tasmania, Cape
Province, and probably other places.

Regards,

Frank

On 11/01/2011 11:27 AM, John Dennis wrote:

All,

People might know about this, but I have just recently been made aware
that the Manchester Museum of Science and Industry (MOSI) now has
Beyer Peacock drawings and photos online. The search page is here:

http://emu.msim.org.uk/htmlmn/collections/online/search.php?type=images

and enter "Beyer Peacock" in the drop down list of collection names.

Here's an interesting one for Frank:
http://emu.msim.org.uk/htmlmn/web/pages/common/imagedisplay_mosi.php?&irn=15803
<http://emu.msim.org.uk/htmlmn/web/pages/common/imagedisplay_mosi.php?&irn=15803>

A 2-4-0 with the description "Norwegian Government Railway
(Australia)".

Going to http://www.beyerpeacock.co.uk/loco%20list/Customerlist.PDF I
found that order number 6245 was for two locomotives of 3'6" gauge,
given builders numbers 2249-50.

Is the "(Australia)" annotation an error, or did Australia have a pair
of these 2-4-0Ts?

John
==========================================================
John Dennis jdennis@optusnet.com.au <mailto:jdennis%40optusnet.com.au>
Melbourne,Australia Home of the HOn30 Dutton Bay Tramway
and the Australian Narrow Gauge Web-Exhibition Gallery
Dutton Bay URL: http://members.optusnet.com.au/duttonbay
WebX http://members.optusnet.com.au/jdennis/ng_webex.html


John Dennis <jdennis@...>
 

Thanks for your input.

Builders numbers 2158 and 3120 were for order numbers 6490 and 6191
respectively, ordered for "McLean Bros. & Rigg (Guy Smith)" and
"McLean Bros. & Rigg, Australia". There are no images for either of
these orders on the site, but there are some nice photos in "Rails
Through the Bush"

John

On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:17:01 +1100, Frank Stamford
<frank.stamford@bigpond.com> wrote:


Hello John,

That's a very interesting resource.

The "(Australia)" in the annotation is a mistake. Order No.6245 was, as
you say, for B/Nos 2249 and 2250. Both of these were for the NSB
(Norwegian State Railways), No.2249 being named "Gere" and 2250 "Freke".

Two locomotives of this type (but with cabs and stacks different to that
in the drawing) were supplied to Australia to The Jarrahdale Jarrah
Forests & Railways Ltd. They were B/No.2158 of 1882, and B/No.3120 of
1889, and named "Samson" and "Samson No.2".

The first of this type of locomotive was built for Norway in 1866, and
the type - which was very successful - inspired the 2-6-0 tender locos
widely used in South Austtralia, Western Australia, Tasmania, Cape
Province, and probably other places.

Regards,

Frank
==========================================================
John Dennis jdennis@optusnet.com.au
Melbourne,Australia Home of the HOn30 Dutton Bay Tramway
and the Australian Narrow Gauge Web-Exhibition Gallery
Dutton Bay URL: http://members.optusnet.com.au/duttonbay
WebX http://members.optusnet.com.au/jdennis/ng_webex.html


bll_hnks
 

I believe "Rails Through The Bush" is available from Karen's Books at www.karensbooks.com<http://www.karensbooks.com>
The UA$ to US$ exchange rate is very favourable at the moment.

Bill Hanks

From: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au [mailto:LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au] On Behalf Of John Dennis
Sent: Tuesday, 11 January 2011 12:34 PM
To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au
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Thanks for your input.

Builders numbers 2158 and 3120 were for order numbers 6490 and 6191
respectively, ordered for "McLean Bros. & Rigg (Guy Smith)" and
"McLean Bros. & Rigg, Australia". There are no images for either of
these orders on the site, but there are some nice photos in "Rails
Through the Bush"

John

On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:17:01 +1100, Frank Stamford
<frank.stamford@bigpond.com<mailto:frank.stamford%40bigpond.com>> wrote:


Hello John,

That's a very interesting resource.

The "(Australia)" in the annotation is a mistake. Order No.6245 was, as
you say, for B/Nos 2249 and 2250. Both of these were for the NSB
(Norwegian State Railways), No.2249 being named "Gere" and 2250 "Freke".

Two locomotives of this type (but with cabs and stacks different to that
in the drawing) were supplied to Australia to The Jarrahdale Jarrah
Forests & Railways Ltd. They were B/No.2158 of 1882, and B/No.3120 of
1889, and named "Samson" and "Samson No.2".

The first of this type of locomotive was built for Norway in 1866, and
the type - which was very successful - inspired the 2-6-0 tender locos
widely used in South Austtralia, Western Australia, Tasmania, Cape
Province, and probably other places.

Regards,

Frank
==========================================================
John Dennis jdennis@optusnet.com.au<mailto:jdennis%40optusnet.com.au>
Melbourne,Australia Home of the HOn30 Dutton Bay Tramway
and the Australian Narrow Gauge Web-Exhibition Gallery
Dutton Bay URL: http://members.optusnet.com.au/duttonbay
WebX http://members.optusnet.com.au/jdennis/ng_webex.html