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Re: remote boiler

Peter Evans
 

The boilers are local copies of the Babcock & Wilcox WIF (wrought iron front) water tube boilers. Thompsons were not the first Victorian firm to copy these, Langlands Foundry made three units for the VR Newport Workshops in 1888.


Peter Evans
Historical Research and Heritage Services
0407 537 837


Climax (Vic.)

Roderick Smith
 

170808Tu Melbourne 'Herald Sun' - Climax, then & now.

Roderick.


Tweed tramways

Petan
 

Trove from 1919 notes CSR Condong sugar mill had an agreement with farmers for a right of way over the land for certain purposes for 99 years. That means if the 1974 closed tramway had in fact continued to the present day, then 99 years would have expired, as the article also notes Cudgen farmers first CSR year was 1913.  Regardless of what they take as the first year, 99 years after the newspaper date of 1919 would expire next year. Wonder if any other CSR mills, eg in QLD, had a similar 99 year tramway clause? A lawyer might ask if that clause extended to any mills sold by CSR and still having a tramway? http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/192250669

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley


Barlow Rail

Stephen Percy Larcombe
 

yet another length of original Geelong railway line Barlow Rail has surfaced recently:



Re: : remote boiler

Barry Sheffield
 

thanks Phil, that is great information......much appreciated
cheers, Barry


Re: : remote boiler

Phil Rickard
 

Barry,

Pictures of the same boilers appear in "Gold for the Finding - a pictorial history of Gipplsland's Jordan Goldfield" [Tomlin, Bosa, Chamberlain - Hill of Content, 1979].

In the chapter on Blue Jacket, the authors note:
 "Alluvial claims were pegged along the Jordan from the B.B. Creek to the junction with the Thomson River. Almost at the confluence of the two rivers, a sluicing operation was conducted with great thoroughness during the 1920s and 1930s. The plant was powered by a brace of boilers which had been constructed by Thompsons of Castlemaine. These still stand in situ and, unless any other arrangements are made, will be covered by the waters of the Thomson Dam." 

A fuzzy photo of the the actual plant at T-J junction, dating from the 1920s is also included, plus two from the 1970s, similar to yours (but not in colour!). I suspect a trawl through Trove would elicit further; also the Mining & Geological Journal.

cheers   Phil Rickard


Re: Light Railways

David in Avenel
 

Alas I too have overlooked my renewal which will happen today via the website. Apologies to the subscription manager.

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David in Avenel.au
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Re: Light Railways

Chris Stratton
 

I’m not expecting mine just yet, I forgot to renew and only did it last Thursday.

 

Regards,

Chris

 

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Subject: [LRRSA] Light Railways

 




I’ve noted no postings as to receipt of the current issue of Light Railway by subscribers … but mine arrived at Junee NSW yesterday, Friday 4/8, bearing a postal imprint of 2/8.

Peter Neve

 





Re: Light Railways

Frank Stamford
 

Hello Peter,

Thanks for your message.

They are definitely in circulation and I think they all went normally this month!

Regards,

Frank

On 5/08/2017 9:05 PM, 'Hunslet' hunslet@... [LRRSA] wrote:
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I�ve noted no postings as to receipt of the current issue of Light Railway by subscribers � but mine arrived at Junee NSW yesterday, Friday 4/8, bearing a postal imprint of 2/8.

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Light Railways

Hunslet
 

I’ve noted no postings as to receipt of the current issue of Light Railway by subscribers … but mine arrived at Junee NSW yesterday, Friday 4/8, bearing a postal imprint of 2/8.

Peter Neve

 


remote boiler

Barry Sheffield
 

I came across this boiler when on a 4wd trip in 1971. We had come in from Matlock through Jericho & Red Jacket & my recollection is that it was near the junction of the Jordan & Thompson rivers. There was a hut nearby that was known as the junction hotel. It would all now be underwater due to the construction of the Thompson Dam.
Does anyone know the history of the boiler? I have often wondered about it
cheers, Barry

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Re: Tweed Heads

Petan
 

On some systems you may need to click each and some other systems allow bulk download of them all so check right hand top corner for your options. The download option is the small downloads facing arrow top right of screen next to the print option. Not sure what it is on some other ‘platforms’ (see my use of modern terminology!) but that is the case on Chrome and Firefox. Each item is between one and two MBs in size.


Cheers

Peter Cokley

 

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Sent: Friday, 4 August 2017 5:09 PM
To: LRRSA Yahoogroup
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Re: Tweed Heads

 

They work fine for me David. No idea why they don't for you. Maybe they are just taking a long time to download?

 

John

 

On 4 August 2017 at 16:54, espee8800 espee8800@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:

 

And pray tell how one goes about downloading these.  I click on them and they just sit there and look at me saying "not this week sonny jim".


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David in Avenel.au
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Re: Tweed Heads

John Dennis
 

They work fine for me David. No idea why they don't for you. Maybe they are just taking a long time to download?

John

On 4 August 2017 at 16:54, espee8800 espee8800@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:
 

And pray tell how one goes about downloading these.  I click on them and they just sit there and look at me saying "not this week sonny jim".

--
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David in Avenel.au
{Before you change anything, learn why it is the way it is.)



Re: Tweed Heads

David in Avenel
 

And pray tell how one goes about downloading these.  I click on them and they just sit there and look at me saying "not this week sonny jim".

--
best wishes,  
David in Avenel.au
{Before you change anything, learn why it is the way it is.)


Re: Tweed Heads

Petan
 

Meant to add that the route through the proposed Chinderah station site, slightly upstream of the 1936 Barney's Point Bridge, is marked on Hairyleg’s work. The route not the station sites.

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley

 

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Subject: [LRRSA] Tweed Heads

 

On the topic of long closed and proposed rail lines…

 

The following proposed Nerang Murwillumbah railway routes, with July 1900 in the surveyor's handwriting, is available as a 5mb JPEG from my Google Drive site. All the proposed routes would have required a rail bridge over the Tweed River. In that proposed time period were two Tweed River road bridges with very high cost lifting span equipped sections; the 1901 Murwillumbah road bridge and the 1936 Barney's Point Bridge over the Tweed River at Chinderah. The 1936 highway bridge had liftings spans as the Tweed River trade in the 1930s was still sufficient to force the inclusion of a lifting span, therefore the same river trade would have also forced a similarly expensive lifting span on any rail bridge built in that era. A rail bridge with lifting span was possible as shown with the Grafton rail lifting span which also showed 1930s river trade was sufficient to force a lifting span at Grafton as well.

 

The distances on the 1900 plan are a bit odd as the 141 miles shown for Murwillumbah is interesting as Stokers Siding, 6 miles south of Murwillumbah, was 141 miles 42 chains by rail from Grafton as per the 1918 NSWR Northern local appendix. The Casino Grafton line opened 1905 and the map is dated 1900, although the initial Grafton - Casino surveys would have probably been done by 1900.

 

Another proposed but not built rail route was along the north side of the Tweed river south from Tweed Heads. The proposed Chinderah station site, slightly upstream of the 1936 Barney's Point Bridge, is marked with my usual blue arrow on this cadastral from The Tweed Heads Historical Society. On the left side of that plan is portion 174 marked as John Sexton's land thus Sexton's Hill on the highway near there. John and Bridget Sexton had a daughter Ellen who eventually married a widower from Brisbane who was a member of QLD parliament. That is how the Sextons of Sexton Hill became the parents in law of Vince Gair, future QLD premier and Commonwealth Senator.   

 

The 1900 plan https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByB-ppGeDyvwNUZ6RG52LUU1NDg/view

Chinderah proposed but not built railway station site https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByB-ppGeDyvwQ2RNSTZHYWduRk0/view

 

The station yard plans for most stations Ernest Junction to Tweed Heads.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0ByB-ppGeDyvwN2hCUWptczRvRHM

 

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley


Tweed Heads

Petan
 

On the topic of long closed and proposed rail lines…

 

The following proposed Nerang Murwillumbah railway routes, with July 1900 in the surveyor's handwriting, is available as a 5mb JPEG from my Google Drive site. All the proposed routes would have required a rail bridge over the Tweed River. In that proposed time period were two Tweed River road bridges with very high cost lifting span equipped sections; the 1901 Murwillumbah road bridge and the 1936 Barney's Point Bridge over the Tweed River at Chinderah. The 1936 highway bridge had liftings spans as the Tweed River trade in the 1930s was still sufficient to force the inclusion of a lifting span, therefore the same river trade would have also forced a similarly expensive lifting span on any rail bridge built in that era. A rail bridge with lifting span was possible as shown with the Grafton rail lifting span which also showed 1930s river trade was sufficient to force a lifting span at Grafton as well.

 

The distances on the 1900 plan are a bit odd as the 141 miles shown for Murwillumbah is interesting as Stokers Siding, 6 miles south of Murwillumbah, was 141 miles 42 chains by rail from Grafton as per the 1918 NSWR Northern local appendix. The Casino Grafton line opened 1905 and the map is dated 1900, although the initial Grafton - Casino surveys would have probably been done by 1900.

 

Another proposed but not built rail route was along the north side of the Tweed river south from Tweed Heads. The proposed Chinderah station site, slightly upstream of the 1936 Barney's Point Bridge, is marked with my usual blue arrow on this cadastral from The Tweed Heads Historical Society. On the left side of that plan is portion 174 marked as John Sexton's land thus Sexton's Hill on the highway near there. John and Bridget Sexton had a daughter Ellen who eventually married a widower from Brisbane who was a member of QLD parliament. That is how the Sextons of Sexton Hill became the parents in law of Vince Gair, future QLD premier and Commonwealth Senator.   

 

The 1900 plan https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByB-ppGeDyvwNUZ6RG52LUU1NDg/view

Chinderah proposed but not built railway station site https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByB-ppGeDyvwQ2RNSTZHYWduRk0/view

 

The station yard plans for most stations Ernest Junction to Tweed Heads.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0ByB-ppGeDyvwN2hCUWptczRvRHM

 

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley

 


OFF TOPIC Foreign narrow gauge

Michael C.
 

Dear all,
 
I've just come back from Germany. 'Several' photographs were taken...
 
I have uploaded a couple of collections to Flickr:
 
The 15" gauge Dresdner Parkeisenbahn is here:
 
The newly-extended Weißeritztalbahn is here:
 
I also have images from the Lößnitzgrundbahn which I'll upload shortly...
 
Take a look if you're interested.
 
Cheers,
 
Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
Follow me on Twitter @mikenarrowgauge
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Light Railways 256

John Dennis
 

Light Railways 256, August 2017, was packed last night, and is now in the hands of Australia Post. The packing process was a little complicated as we needed to send reminder letters to those who haven't yet renewed. A big thank you to those who have renewed - your magazine will be in letter box shortly (*) but for non-members (and those newly converted to non-members) the mag will be in the newsagent very soon. Or even better, renew - we will send you the magazine by return post.
(*) - subject to the vagaries of Australia Post delivery

John Dennis
LRRSA Sales Officer


Re: : Moreton Mill maps

Eddie Oliver
 

On 27/07/2017 16:23, jpaff@... [LRRSA] wrote:

Thanks guys for remembering my work.


Impossible to forget such outstanding work.
What is your current recommended way of accessing it? The railpage links (or at least those known to me) do not appear to work.



Re: : Moreton Mill maps

hairyleg@y7mail.com
 

Thanks guys for remembering my work.

Yes, I am a member here, and I keep a close eye on what's going on, and I regularly incorporate comments from here into my work.

I'm happy to help anyone if they need it, or if they have any questions. I have lots of old maps.


John (aka Hairyleg)

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