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Re: Marysville devastation

Bill Russell
 

G'day Peter,

Thanks for this information.

`I think that you would be the moswt appropriate person to initially contact the
Marysville residents. I presume that you have contacts there.

I presume also that as this is an uinofficial group of LRRSA members we do not
need official LRRSA blessing. For the moment we can keep the thing informal.

Regards,

Bill Russell.

P.S. The Puffing Billy Railway is plnning to help farmers in the Bunyip area with fencing. This
follows a request from the farmers.
;-;-;-;-;-;-;;

On 13 Feb 2009 at 9:13, Peter Evans wrote:

Hi All,



History of the Day's rail tractor at Marysville is as follows:



"The horse teams on the Marysville Timber & Seasoning Company log tramway
were superseded when the Company obtained a six-wheel rail-tractor to work
the line. This tractor had been built by Day's of South Melbourne in 1927
for Richard's tramway at Starvation Creek east of Warburton. Richards found
that the cast-iron frames cracked easily on the rough track-work at
Starvation Creek, and had the frames replaced with rolled iron joists by
blacksmiths and engineers G. W. Grocke of South Melbourne. This solved the
cracking problem but rendered the tractor too light to provide sufficient
tractive effort. As a result, the unit was sold to Ted Anderson for use at
Marysville. Today, the scars of the conversion are still visible on the
tractor, now preserved in Gallipoli Park in Marysville. Ted's Son, Ron
"Copper" Anderson, was assigned the position as driver on the log tram along
Wilks Creek. Trains consisted of up to three or four "sets" of trucks, with
from one to three logs on each set. Ron took to the job enthusiastically,
driving at a speed calculated to induce an intense state of nervousness in
any passengers". [Source: Evans P. (in prep) Wooden Rails and Green Gold: A
Century of Timber and Transport along the Yarra Track.]



This tractor is most likely severely damaged as it was right next to the
Police Station which was destroyed on Saturday afternoon. There were two log
bogies behind the tractor and nearby was a large oil engine ex Sund's
sawmill. I think it an excellent suggestion that the LRRSA approach the
Marysville Historical Society with an offer to restore the tractor, bogies
and engine and retain them in situ. There is a precedent for this approach
in the restoration of the TACL rail tractor at PBPS some years ago. Since it
would be a cosmetic restoration only it would hopefully take less than the
15-years it took to restore the TACL.



Cheers,

PeterE.



Peter Evans

Production Management, Corporate Writing and Heritage Services

0407 537 837

www.peterevans.com.au <http://www.peterevans.com.au/>

peter@peterevans.com.au









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Re: Marysville devastation

wordsmith_mike
 

--- In LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au, "john browning" <ceo8@...> wrote:

I remember that a rare Days 0-6-0PM 3ft gauge loco has been on
display in
Marysville for many years.
If it is recoverable, maybe the Yarra Valley Tourist Railway could in
finding a space for restoration


Re: Title Photo.

Alf Aiken
 

Interesting & different photo Brad.

Alf

--- In LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au, BLI BLI <alcogoodwin@...> wrote:

Hi all,
Been testing out a new OPTUS wireless thingamy and going
through all the various Yahoogroups.
Not sure how many people go to the front page of our group with
any regularity, however the photo and name on there was a little old
and awful looking, certainly not something that would attract huge
amounts of interest.

Anyway I have spent some time and updated the look of the main
title photo. Hopefully it meets the approval of the powers that be.

http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/LRRSA/

Best wishes
Brad



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Re: Marysville devastation

Peter Evans
 

Hi All,



History of the Day's rail tractor at Marysville is as follows:



"The horse teams on the Marysville Timber & Seasoning Company log tramway
were superseded when the Company obtained a six-wheel rail-tractor to work
the line. This tractor had been built by Day's of South Melbourne in 1927
for Richard's tramway at Starvation Creek east of Warburton. Richards found
that the cast-iron frames cracked easily on the rough track-work at
Starvation Creek, and had the frames replaced with rolled iron joists by
blacksmiths and engineers G. W. Grocke of South Melbourne. This solved the
cracking problem but rendered the tractor too light to provide sufficient
tractive effort. As a result, the unit was sold to Ted Anderson for use at
Marysville. Today, the scars of the conversion are still visible on the
tractor, now preserved in Gallipoli Park in Marysville. Ted's Son, Ron
"Copper" Anderson, was assigned the position as driver on the log tram along
Wilks Creek. Trains consisted of up to three or four "sets" of trucks, with
from one to three logs on each set. Ron took to the job enthusiastically,
driving at a speed calculated to induce an intense state of nervousness in
any passengers". [Source: Evans P. (in prep) Wooden Rails and Green Gold: A
Century of Timber and Transport along the Yarra Track.]



This tractor is most likely severely damaged as it was right next to the
Police Station which was destroyed on Saturday afternoon. There were two log
bogies behind the tractor and nearby was a large oil engine ex Sund's
sawmill. I think it an excellent suggestion that the LRRSA approach the
Marysville Historical Society with an offer to restore the tractor, bogies
and engine and retain them in situ. There is a precedent for this approach
in the restoration of the TACL rail tractor at PBPS some years ago. Since it
would be a cosmetic restoration only it would hopefully take less than the
15-years it took to restore the TACL.



Cheers,

PeterE.



Peter Evans

Production Management, Corporate Writing and Heritage Services

0407 537 837

www.peterevans.com.au <http://www.peterevans.com.au/>

peter@peterevans.com.au


Title Photo.

BLI BLI <alcogoodwin@...>
 

Hi all,
Been testing out a new OPTUS wireless thingamy and going through all the various Yahoogroups.
Not sure how many people go to the front page of our group with any regularity, however the photo and name on there was a little old and awful looking, certainly not something that would attract huge amounts of interest.

Anyway I have spent some time and updated the look of the main title photo. Hopefully it meets the approval of the powers that be.

http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/LRRSA/

Best wishes
Brad



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Re: Marysville devastation

BLI BLI <alcogoodwin@...>
 

For what its worth, and as someone very much moved by the tragedy down there, I think Bill has hit on a truly beautiful idea.
  It will never bring back all those poor people, or help to ease the suffering of the survivers, but I agree with all the views of its link to the past and the importance to have township icons like this go on.
  While I live a bit far, and am incredibly involved in an overseas museum project at the moment, to do much to help, I would certainly try to help raise some funds towards the restoration.
 
Regards
Brad
** BTW: While not a major consideration considering, the publicity it could bring for the LRRSA could only be good surely.
 


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--- On Wed, 2/11/09, Bill Russell <bill.russell@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

From: Bill Russell <bill.russell@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] Marysville devastation
To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au
Date: Wednesday, 11 February, 2009, 10:43 PM






G'
day All,

I guess the first removal of rubbish would be removal of roofing iron to allow the ruins
below to be searched. If the tractor remains are removed I guess it would be later.

However, assuming we are interested, it would be wise to be ready to move on an
initial investigation as soon as possible. At this investigation we would also need to contact
the local authorities.

In short, we need to do some initial organising now. Are there enough members
interested? Would we have the blessing of the LRRSA?

Regards,

Bill Russell


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BLI BLI <alcogoodwin@...>
 

Hi all,
Just want to prattle on for a second about the awesome cover shot on the from of the latest Light Railways. The lighting and the jungle make for an awesome shot of #22.
If that wasn't enough, a diesel on the cover is always cause for celebraton. I am sure John B would agree :-)

I wonder if the opportunity for this shot will ever come again given the recent flood damage there and the destruction of the Sigatoka bridge?

As a side note, its a rather curious livery Ontrak used on the rebuild Prossie loco for FSC. I wonder if this will become the standard for the fleet or if its just a one off.

Anyway, great work as always guys.
Brad



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Re: Marysville devastation

Bill Russell
 

G'
day All,

I guess the first removal of rubbish would be removal of roofing iron to allow the ruins
below to be searched. If the tractor remains are removed I guess it would be later.

However, assuming we are interested, it would be wise to be ready to move on an
initial investigation as soon as possible. At this investigation we would also need to contact
the local authorities.

In short, we need to do some initial organising now. Are there enough members
interested? Would we have the blessing of the LRRSA?

Regards,

Bill Russell

On 12 Feb 2009 at 12:15, Bill Hanks wrote:

G'day Bill R,

Thank you for your offer to co-ordinate a restoration of the Marysville Days Tractor. It is something that can be considered.

Initially I guess a lot depends on when outsiders will be allowed to again visit the town, to be able to inspect the tractor.

There is also the possibility that it may inadvertently become a victim of the clean-up effort and be carted off with the rest of the rubbish in the town. It will most likely be outside contractors doing the clean-up who won't recognize the importance of this object.

Regards,

Bill Hanks.



From: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au [mailto:LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au] On Behalf Of Bill Russell
Sent: Thursday, 12 February 2009 11:56 AM
To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] Marysville devastation



G'day All,

It may be difficult for a National Organisation to offer to restore a local relic, but there
is nothing to stop a local group of members making an offer to do so (with the blessing of the
LRRSA).

However the ractor would need to be inspected first, it may be too badly burnt to
restore.

Assunming that the it can be restored the local comminnity would also need to be
consulted, as I imagine they may not want outsiders "stealing" one of their local icons. To
overcome this I think that any approach should be done under the auspices of the LRRSA
with the promise that the restored loco would be returned to the town.

Nancy and I often used to drive to Marysville for afternoon tea. It was a magnificent
town.

If members are interested in forming such a group I would be willing to co-ordinate
(and record) the members of the group.

Regards,

Bill Russell.

On 12 Feb 2009 at 9:11, Bill Hanks wrote:

John,

Thank you very much for your kind thoughts for the horrendous losses
from the fires.

The apocalypse that occurred on Saturday will be a haunting nightmare
for many years to come.

Indirectly this will affect all Australians, not just those who have
perished, been injured or lost property.

It's not over yet.

Regards,

W.L. (Bill) Hanks

President LRRSA

PS: - The Days tractor at Marysville had crossed my mind too, as well
the other relics in the bush, in particular the pigsty trestle that was
a feature of a walk along 'The Trestle Track'.







From: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au> [mailto:LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au> ] On
Behalf Of john browning
Sent: Thursday, 12 February 2009 8:10 AM
To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>
Subject: [LRRSA] Marysville devastation



I remember that a rare Days 0-6-0PM 3ft gauge loco has been on display
in
Marysville for many years.

While its fate pales into utter insignificance compared to the frightful
loss of life and destruction of homes, it is to be hoped that this, one
of
the last few Victorian timber tramway locomotives, can be salvaged. Its
restoration might be a fine symbol of the determination of the community
to
return after the town was almost totally wiped out.

We all have the devastated communities of Victoria in our thoughts.

John

John Browning
Brisbane
Queensland
Australia

PO Box 99

Annerley 4103

Phone +61 (0)7 3255 9084

Mobile 0407 069 199











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Re: Marysville devastation

Michael J
 

If the LRRSA is interested, maybe a letter to the
Bushfire Reconstruction and Recovery Authority
offering assistance in identifying items of
historical interest may get permission to enter these
areas at an early date.

The letter should mention the importance of retaining
what remains of the cultural heritage of these
regions. It could also suggest that the LRRSA may be
available to assist in restoration in the longer term.

I think it is important that these relics are
retained where possible, Not only for those
interested in light railways or history, but for the
local communities, who will look to these relics as
important links with the past when so much else is lost.

Regards,

Michael

------- Original Message -------
From : Bill
Russell[mailto:bill.russell@optusnet.com.au]
Sent : 2/12/2009 11:55:31 AM
To : LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au
Cc :
Subject : RE: [LRRSA] Marysville devastation
>G'day All,

It may be difficult for a National Organisation to
offer to restore a local relic, but there
is nothing to stop a local group of members making an
offer to do so (with the blessing of the
LRRSA).

However the ractor would need to be inspected first,
it may be too badly burnt to
restore.

Assunming that the it can be restored the local
comminnity would also need to be
consulted, as I imagine they may not want outsiders
"stealing" one of their local icons. To
overcome this I think that any approach should be
done under the auspices of the LRRSA
with the promise that the restored loco would be
returned to the town.

Nancy and I often used to drive to Marysville for
afternoon tea. It was a magnificent
town.

If members are interested in forming such a group I
would be willing to co-ordinate
(and record) the members of the group.

Regards,

Bill Russell.



On 12 Feb 2009 at 9:11, Bill Hanks wrote:

John,

Thank you very much for your kind thoughts for the
horrendous losses
from the fires.

The apocalypse that occurred on Saturday will be a
haunting nightmare
for many years to come.

Indirectly this will affect all Australians, not
just those who have
perished, been injured or lost property.

It's not over yet.

Regards,

W.L. (Bill) Hanks

President LRRSA

PS: - The Days tractor at Marysville had crossed my
mind too, as well
the other relics in the bush, in particular the
pigsty trestle that was
a feature of a walk along 'The Trestle Track'.







From: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au [
mailto:LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au] On
Behalf Of john browning
Sent: Thursday, 12 February 2009 8:10 AM
To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: [LRRSA] Marysville devastation



I remember that a rare Days 0-6-0PM 3ft gauge loco
has been on display
in
Marysville for many years.

While its fate pales into utter insignificance
compared to the frightful
loss of life and destruction of homes, it is to be
hoped that this, one
of
the last few Victorian timber tramway locomotives,
can be salvaged. Its
restoration might be a fine symbol of the
determination of the community
to
return after the town was almost totally wiped out.

We all have the devastated communities of Victoria
in our thoughts.

John

John Browning
Brisbane
Queensland
Australia

PO Box 99

Annerley 4103

Phone +61 (0)7 3255 9084

Mobile 0407 069 199











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Re: Marysville devastation

bll_hnks
 

G'day Bill R,

Thank you for your offer to co-ordinate a restoration of the Marysville Days Tractor. It is something that can be considered.

Initially I guess a lot depends on when outsiders will be allowed to again visit the town, to be able to inspect the tractor.

There is also the possibility that it may inadvertently become a victim of the clean-up effort and be carted off with the rest of the rubbish in the town. It will most likely be outside contractors doing the clean-up who won't recognize the importance of this object.

Regards,

Bill Hanks.



From: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au [mailto:LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au] On Behalf Of Bill Russell
Sent: Thursday, 12 February 2009 11:56 AM
To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] Marysville devastation



G'day All,

It may be difficult for a National Organisation to offer to restore a local relic, but there
is nothing to stop a local group of members making an offer to do so (with the blessing of the
LRRSA).

However the ractor would need to be inspected first, it may be too badly burnt to
restore.

Assunming that the it can be restored the local comminnity would also need to be
consulted, as I imagine they may not want outsiders "stealing" one of their local icons. To
overcome this I think that any approach should be done under the auspices of the LRRSA
with the promise that the restored loco would be returned to the town.

Nancy and I often used to drive to Marysville for afternoon tea. It was a magnificent
town.

If members are interested in forming such a group I would be willing to co-ordinate
(and record) the members of the group.

Regards,

Bill Russell.

On 12 Feb 2009 at 9:11, Bill Hanks wrote:

John,

Thank you very much for your kind thoughts for the horrendous losses
from the fires.

The apocalypse that occurred on Saturday will be a haunting nightmare
for many years to come.

Indirectly this will affect all Australians, not just those who have
perished, been injured or lost property.

It's not over yet.

Regards,

W.L. (Bill) Hanks

President LRRSA

PS: - The Days tractor at Marysville had crossed my mind too, as well
the other relics in the bush, in particular the pigsty trestle that was
a feature of a walk along 'The Trestle Track'.







From: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au> [mailto:LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au> ] On
Behalf Of john browning
Sent: Thursday, 12 February 2009 8:10 AM
To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>
Subject: [LRRSA] Marysville devastation



I remember that a rare Days 0-6-0PM 3ft gauge loco has been on display
in
Marysville for many years.

While its fate pales into utter insignificance compared to the frightful
loss of life and destruction of homes, it is to be hoped that this, one
of
the last few Victorian timber tramway locomotives, can be salvaged. Its
restoration might be a fine symbol of the determination of the community
to
return after the town was almost totally wiped out.

We all have the devastated communities of Victoria in our thoughts.

John

John Browning
Brisbane
Queensland
Australia

PO Box 99

Annerley 4103

Phone +61 (0)7 3255 9084

Mobile 0407 069 199

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Re: Marysville devastation

Bill Russell
 

G'day All,

It may be difficult for a National Organisation to offer to restore a local relic, but there
is nothing to stop a local group of members making an offer to do so (with the blessing of the
LRRSA).

However the ractor would need to be inspected first, it may be too badly burnt to
restore.

Assunming that the it can be restored the local comminnity would also need to be
consulted, as I imagine they may not want outsiders "stealing" one of their local icons. To
overcome this I think that any approach should be done under the auspices of the LRRSA
with the promise that the restored loco would be returned to the town.

Nancy and I often used to drive to Marysville for afternoon tea. It was a magnificent
town.

If members are interested in forming such a group I would be willing to co-ordinate
(and record) the members of the group.

Regards,

Bill Russell.

On 12 Feb 2009 at 9:11, Bill Hanks wrote:

John,

Thank you very much for your kind thoughts for the horrendous losses
from the fires.

The apocalypse that occurred on Saturday will be a haunting nightmare
for many years to come.

Indirectly this will affect all Australians, not just those who have
perished, been injured or lost property.

It's not over yet.

Regards,

W.L. (Bill) Hanks

President LRRSA

PS: - The Days tractor at Marysville had crossed my mind too, as well
the other relics in the bush, in particular the pigsty trestle that was
a feature of a walk along 'The Trestle Track'.







From: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au [mailto:LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au] On
Behalf Of john browning
Sent: Thursday, 12 February 2009 8:10 AM
To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: [LRRSA] Marysville devastation



I remember that a rare Days 0-6-0PM 3ft gauge loco has been on display
in
Marysville for many years.

While its fate pales into utter insignificance compared to the frightful
loss of life and destruction of homes, it is to be hoped that this, one
of
the last few Victorian timber tramway locomotives, can be salvaged. Its
restoration might be a fine symbol of the determination of the community
to
return after the town was almost totally wiped out.

We all have the devastated communities of Victoria in our thoughts.

John

John Browning
Brisbane
Queensland
Australia

PO Box 99

Annerley 4103

Phone +61 (0)7 3255 9084

Mobile 0407 069 199











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Re: Marysville devastation

bll_hnks
 

John,

Thank you very much for your kind thoughts for the horrendous losses
from the fires.

The apocalypse that occurred on Saturday will be a haunting nightmare
for many years to come.

Indirectly this will affect all Australians, not just those who have
perished, been injured or lost property.

It's not over yet.

Regards,

W.L. (Bill) Hanks

President LRRSA

PS: - The Days tractor at Marysville had crossed my mind too, as well
the other relics in the bush, in particular the pigsty trestle that was
a feature of a walk along 'The Trestle Track'.







From: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au [mailto:LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au] On
Behalf Of john browning
Sent: Thursday, 12 February 2009 8:10 AM
To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: [LRRSA] Marysville devastation



I remember that a rare Days 0-6-0PM 3ft gauge loco has been on display
in
Marysville for many years.

While its fate pales into utter insignificance compared to the frightful
loss of life and destruction of homes, it is to be hoped that this, one
of
the last few Victorian timber tramway locomotives, can be salvaged. Its
restoration might be a fine symbol of the determination of the community
to
return after the town was almost totally wiped out.

We all have the devastated communities of Victoria in our thoughts.

John

John Browning
Brisbane
Queensland
Australia

PO Box 99

Annerley 4103

Phone +61 (0)7 3255 9084

Mobile 0407 069 199


Marysville devastation

John Browning
 

I remember that a rare Days 0-6-0PM 3ft gauge loco has been on display in
Marysville for many years.



While its fate pales into utter insignificance compared to the frightful
loss of life and destruction of homes, it is to be hoped that this, one of
the last few Victorian timber tramway locomotives, can be salvaged. Its
restoration might be a fine symbol of the determination of the community to
return after the town was almost totally wiped out.



We all have the devastated communities of Victoria in our thoughts.



John



John Browning
Brisbane
Queensland
Australia



PO Box 99

Annerley 4103



Phone +61 (0)7 3255 9084


Mobile 0407 069 199


Re: overseas narrow gauge

Roderick Smith
 

John Raby has posted a link to the plans for a 2009 Java tour.
www.internationalsteam.co.uk/tours/java2009.htm
You will recall my enthusiasm for the 2008 program and organisation,
and this tour has kept all of the highlights, with only a couple of
marginal mills deleted to allow time at some major tourist
attractions to make the tour appeal to couples. If numbers allow
the operation of two buses, a choice of hard core or soft core can
be made each morning. Java is particularly easy to reach from
Australia. In 2008, I arrived via Jakarta, and left via Bali;
leaving via Surabaya was also an option.

My own tour this year is to South Africa in May, keyed around a
group tour to four steam lines (three 610 mm and one 1067 mm). I am
staying on for some private touring, then a 2 week voyage to & from
St Helena on RMS St Helena.
www.geoffs-trains.com/SANGtour.html

Regards,
Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor

"john browning" <ceo8@...> wrote:
past and present photos of 2ft gauge railways:
Gilpin Tram, USA http://www.gilpintram.com/gtrrpics.html
Fiji Sugar http://www.flickr.com/photos/davo_1620/


The Fires

Paul Napier <bandm@...>
 

It is horrific watching the news of the fires and recorganising the
names of towns that I previously only knew of as locations in history
books of the Victorian timber industry.

I can only but guess at the horror the current residents are going
through.

Paul Napier


Re: Cataloguing scans of slides/photos [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

David Halfpenny \(t\) <tuppenced@...>
 

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From: "Rod Hutchinson" <r.hutchinson@bom.gov.au>
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 4:07 AM
To: <LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au>
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] Cataloguing scans of slides/photos [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Paul,

For building a catalogue, you can't go past a well designed database.
If you have MS Access there are a number of database templates you may
like to consider.

<http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/templates/results.aspx?qu=collections
+databse&av=TPL000>
Excellent choice.

For those allergic to MS, they didn't actually write it.

However be aware though that MS have responded to pressure from people who 'can't be bothered' and have added some features that undermine Access. Just keep each kind of information in a separate Table and you won't fall into the trap.

David 1/2d


Re: Cataloguing scans of slides/photos [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Rod Hutchinson <r.hutchinson@...>
 

Paul,

For building a catalogue, you can't go past a well designed database.
If you have MS Access there are a number of database templates you may
like to consider.

<http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/templates/results.aspx?qu=collections
+databse&av=TPL000>


Regards
Rod Hutchinson
Mooroolbark, Australia


Hi All,

I just thought id ask everyone on here what their thoughts of different
software for collating information on scans of slides, negatives etc. Im
currently scanning thousands of slides and negatives of a mates
collection. Ive had a brief look at Bob Emson's software, is there any
other types that anyone uses? Im undertaking a mammoth task and need
simpicity when searching for different makes of loco, locations, dates
etc. All input will be greatfully recieved!

Cheers

Paul.


Newington Heritage Railway Discovery Tour Twilight Experience

John Browning
 

For Sydneysiders, I note that the heritage narrow gauge train at Newington
Armory will be operating in the afternoon and evening of 15 February.



More details at http://tinyurl.com/dc2k23




Date
15 Feb 2008

Time
3pm, 4:30pm & 6pm

Venue
Newington
<http://www.sydneyolympicpark.com.au/Visiting/venues_and_parks/newington_arm
ory> Armory

Take advantage of the longer summer days with a twilight ride on the
Heritage Train. Get on board for an explosive trip around the historic
buildings and experience how the munitions were moved around the site by the
heritage listed electromobile.


Cost
Adult $15
Concession $12.50
Child $7.50
Under 5 free

Tickets/Bookings
Call 02 9714 7888


Age
All Ages

More Info
Call 02 9714 7888



John



John Browning
Brisbane
Queensland
Australia



PO Box 99

Annerley 4103



Phone +61 (0)7 3255 9084


Mobile 0407 069 199


LRRSA Brisbane Meeting, 13/2/2009, 19:30

LRRSA@...
 

Reminder from:   LRRSA Yahoo!7 Group
 
Title:   LRRSA Brisbane Meeting
 
Date:   Friday 13 February 2009
Time:   19:30 - 22:00
Repeats:   This event repeats every other month on the second Friday.
Location:   BCC Library, Garden City Shopping Centre, Mount Gravatt, after hours entrance, (rear of library) opposite Mega Theatre Complex, next to Toys R Us
 
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Image Databases

Iain
 

These programs are very much "horses for courses" depending on your time,
level of on-going commitment and requirements. There is no correct solution
but there is a well proven approach to database design which is to really
set out your requirements in detail first up. There is no denying the power
of a relational database such as Access or MS SQL Server of the ease of flat
databases like FileMakerpro or the database underlying MagIndex. Simple
Excel databases may also suit. You can even use a Wiki (such as Tiddly Wiki)
as a database.



But you need to figure out at the start how you data is to be structured and
what information you are going to record for each image or file (you might
also figure out whether it's for you own use or for public use). I have
found one of the critical aspects is having standardised catalogue
descriptions so your prize image of 3801 at Noojee can be located to
confound the sceptics. Admittedly the advent of text string searching can
help but if you misspell 3801 you could be in trouble.



These days they use "tags" but in my experience you need to be careful about
unsystematically tagging everything because when you search it's handy to be
able to find similar things, such as all the images of 3801 or of Noojee.
Hard to do if there are thousands of tags so you need to keep them under
control.



I'd have a look at MagIndex and also the database that Peter Vincent and Rob
O'Regan use for describing the images on their websites to see if it suits.



I have to confess despite Bob's sending me the literature I have yet to
really look at his photo and pdf database. For my archaeological work I use
Access for catalogues (although it needs tweaking to display images) but am
also considerably along the way using a wiki for note taking and searching
by tags and text strings.



Yours



Dr Iain Stuart

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