Re: Title Photo.
Hunslet
Posted by: "BLI BLI"
<mailto:alcogoodwin@yahoo.com.au?Subject= Re%3A%20Title%20Photo%2E%20%5BSEC%3DUNCLASSIFIED%5D>alcogoodwin@yahoo.com.au <http://profiles.yahoo.com/moretonshay>moretonshay Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:22 am (EST) Howdee, Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I suppose it really comes down to a persons personal definition of Light Railways. ** Who really should stick to his Philippine efforts :-) ** Railways & Industrial Heritage Society Phils Inc (Australian Chapter) ** Preserving The Rich Railway History Of The Philippines. _____________________________________________________ Which is where I would suggest the image belongs! Hunslet.
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Re: Marysville devastation
Brian Millar <rallim56@...>
I just saw on the 7 news the army is going to be doing the clean up.
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Cheers Brian Millar Qld. Aust.
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From: "Peter Evans" <peter@peterevans.com.au> To: <LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 5:36 PM Subject: [LRRSA] Re: Marysville devastation I think waiting for the "right" time is the best option. The Day's tractor -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.234 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1952 - Release Date: 02/13/09 18:29:00
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Re: Title Photo. [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
Rod Hutchinson <r.hutchinson@...>
Hi all,
I rather like John's idea of changing the title photo occasionally. It was certainly provide for interesting discussion. If you did alter the picture occasionally then the subject matter is not as crucial as the theme. Regards Rod Hutchinson Mooroolbark, Australia should be changed periodically John Browning co-moderator
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Re: Marysville devastation
Peter Evans
I think waiting for the "right" time is the best option. The Day's tractor
is not something that can be picked up with a front-end loader and put in a skip. The area where the Day's is located is part of a well-known local historical precinct and I can't image anyone without local knowledge being allowed to do anything precipitate. The Marysville police are, as I understand it, still in the town, and the rail tractor sat next to the side fence of the police station, so they will know it well. That said, people will be more preoccupied with their own problems and losses at the moment and I will wait for that to subside before making an offer. If the MHS photographic collection has been destroyed at least I will be able to provide them with high-resolution scans of all the timber industry photographs. Cheers, PeterE. Peter Evans Production Management, Corporate Writing and Heritage Services 0407 537 837 www.peterevans.com.au <http://www.peterevans.com.au/> peter@peterevans.com.au P please consider the environment before printing. This electronic mail contains information that is privileged and confidential, intended only for use of the individual(s) or entity named. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, copying or use of the information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error please delete it immediately from your system and inform me by return email and destroy the original message
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Re: Title Photo.
Eddie Oliver <eoliver@...>
Brad wrote:
Many groups change the photo every few days. Why not just display any good interesting photo that is offered, irrespective of topic, untilthenext good one comes along?>>>> Dosen't do much to encourage member participation or draw outOn the contrary, I suggest that is exactly what it would do, and certainly it does so on some other groups, because it increases the likelihood that a photo will indeed be seen - so that people can feel rewarded even if they are not likely to win a competition.
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Re: Title Photograph.
Brad <alcogoodwin@...>
--- In LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au, Stephen Percy Larcombe
<splarcombe@...> wrote: light railways, or does it mean research on Australian Light Railways. If the later is the case then perhaps the name should be ALRRS. Hi Stephen, This one should create a lot more comment :-) It is a very good point though. As I said a few messages back, I guide my activities by Light Railways. Our great publication has articles/information/news or railways, not only here, but Fiji. NZ, Asia and even the UK and elsewhere. The extremely fast growing interest in Fiji cane railways now days lead me to use the picture I did. If the LRRSA is the only available publication that caters for this growing interest, then why not capitalize on that. To answer your question, yes I personally am interested in light railway outside Australia, mostly the Pacific and asia regions, but I am happy to read articles on it anywhere. Thats my own personal interests though. Thanks for adding your thoughts, I would certainly love to see the quieter members give theirs as well. Regards Brad
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Re: Title Photo.
Brad <alcogoodwin@...>
Many groups change the photo every few days. Why not just display anythe next good one comes along?>>>>Hi Eddie, Dosen't do much to encourage member participation or draw out photos that may otherwise not be put on here, but I am happy to take that road if it is the majorities wish. Brad
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Re: Title Photo. [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
BLI BLI <alcogoodwin@...>
Hi again,
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My interest in light railways, while mostly due to sugarcane 2fts, is also strongly fueled by that which in not common. Horse hauled operations get coverage at times, so cattle hauled stuff would certainly be little different in my view. Indeed the articles on Maldon (spelling?) Island and its wind powered train was incredibly interesting and certainly not something commonly covered, likely due to the rarity of wind powered trains. Someone else, I think John, mentioned how people come to be interested in Light Railways and the LRRSA. This would be an interesting topic in itself which I think I will ask separately in a couple of days, however I personally got interested through the mentioned sugarcane railways, as are at least two other NSW and one NT based railfan that I can think of straight away. I'm sure there must be plenty of other railfans taken by these interesting railways while holidaying in Queensland and gone on to search out more information, subsequently finding our association. Regards Brad ** Railways & Industrial Heritage Society Phils Inc (Australian Chapter ** Preserving The Rich Railway History Of The Philippines. We are urgently needing your help! PHOTOS - STORIES - HISTORICAL ITEMS - MEMBERSHIP ****** http://anz.rihspi.org ******
--- On Fri, 2/13/09, Eddie Oliver <eoliver@iprimus.com.au> wrote:
From: Eddie Oliver <eoliver@iprimus.com.au> Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Title Photo. [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au Date: Friday, 13 February, 2009, 1:04 AM I agree with Rod. It may be a most picturesque photo of a light railway, but its connection with the bulk of the LRRSA's activities seems pretty remote? However my assessment relates not to the format of the photo but to the motive power itself, which seems not to have received much attention by the LRRSA, nor to have been very common in the normal geographical range thereof. Rod Hutchinson wrote: Thanks for the photo. I think the photo is a great shot, but a bit too agricultural. It is not capturing the essence of Light Railways. This probably because the motive power is in the front of the image (is at the crossing point of Rule of Thirds), and the rails are almost covered by the sugarcane. Comments above are a reflection my first impression as I opened the Home Page. Regards Rod Hutchinson Adding more friends is quick and easy.</a><br>Import them over to Yahoo! Mail today! http://www.trueswitch.com/yahoo-ph [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Title Photo.
Eddie Oliver <eoliver@...>
BLI BLI wrote:
Every 3-4 months I am thinking of choosing a topic, inviting members to contribute a photo (1 only per person) based on that topic.Many groups change the photo every few days. Why not just display any goof interesting photo that is offered, irrespective of topic, until the next good one comes along?
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Re: Title Photo.
Eddie Oliver <eoliver@...>
Petan wrote:
The messages so far have mentioned the motive power in the cover picture.Not to mention those of us who are basically interested in the railway and its operation, and don't have much interest in either the locomotives or the rolling stock.
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Re: Title Photo.
BLI BLI <alcogoodwin@...>
Hi guys,
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The bright side of all this is the response we are getting. In many groups you can make all the changes in the world and nobody is passionate enough about it to care less. At least the interest is strong on this group. It has been very interesting to read peoples comments, both supportive and critical. Certainly interesting to see how different peoples ideas are as to whether or not field lines are industrial or light railways, not to mention whether Fiji has a part in the forums front page. Personally, as a guide to anything industrial or light railway that I have done, I have always used Light Railways magazine as a guide. If our editors include it there, then I have always considered it to be within topic. The only time our views have diverged is with the current SMR operation (lets not get into that here though). I agree with John that we should change it at regular intervals and not let it get as stale as the original one. To that end, and to increase interest and group participation, I would like to put a proposal forth for consideration. Every 3-4 months I am thinking of choosing a topic, inviting members to contribute a photo (1 only per person) based on that topic. Photo contributions would be relevant to the chosen topic and have to be within the boundaries of what is covered in Light Railways, although it may pay to kkep it a little more regional (Australia, NZ and Fiji). Given the bulk of contributions would likely be from Australia, this should ensure it is seen the most. From these photos the best will be picked (either by the moderators/board or the entire membership) and a new title photo made of that. It is an idea utilized by other groups for the same reasons and seem to be popular with members. Just an idea, I am open to others. Regards Brad ** Railways & Industrial Heritage Society Phils Inc (Australian Chapter ** Preserving The Rich Railway History Of The Philippines. We are urgently needing your help! PHOTOS - STORIES - HISTORICAL ITEMS - MEMBERSHIP ****** http://anz.rihspi.org ******
--- On Sat, 2/14/09, David Halfpenny (t) <tuppenced@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
From: David Halfpenny (t) <tuppenced@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Re: Title Photo. To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au Date: Saturday, 14 February, 2009, 1:26 AM ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -- From: "John Browning" <ceo8@iinet.net. au> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:52 AM My suggestion to Brad is that the Fiji bullock-hauled cane train on portable track is an excellent front page picture for a little while, but that generally speaking the front page should be of an Australian scene and should be changed periodically to take in the breadth of the society's interests, Sounds ideal John. In any group of people interested in railways, there will always be a built-in locomotive bias among those members who make working models. But I'd be surprised if any browser reading the words on the Home Page left without joining on the misapprehension that LRRSA doesn't do locomotives. Also there is no problem with an Australian society looking after related interests in countries that don't have equivalent bodies. David 1/2d Importing contacts has never been easier. Bring your friends over to Yahoo! Mail today! http://www.trueswitch.com/yahoo-ph [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Title Photo.
Petan
The messages so far have mentioned the motive power in the cover picture.
But my interests and I assume so does the interest of many other light rail fans, extends to include the rolling stock. Thus, for me, the intro page could easily have a nice shot of a log car enroute to a mill or an internal sawmill's rail system's car loaded with sawn timber or a Newington Armoury ammo car or even a sawmill traverser. I know the loco people are in the majority but there is romance in both the motive power and the cars drawn along obediently by the motive power. Cheers Peter C
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Re: Title Photograph.
Stephen Percy Larcombe
Does the "Australia" in LRRSA mean members in Australia researching light railways, or does it mean research on Australian Light Railways. If the later is the case then perhaps the name should be ALRRS.
Are members only interested in Australian light railways? Yours Stephen To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.auFrom: dickwho1@bigpond.comDate: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 08:04:18 +1030Subject: [LRRSA] Title Photograph. I agree with Mr. Hunslet. There must be a large number of relevant photographs taken in Australia.Dick Holland _________________________________________________________________ Get the most out of your life online! Click here for the latest news and tips. http://livelife.ninemsn.com.au/
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Re: Title Photo.
David Halfpenny \(t\) <tuppenced@...>
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From: "John Browning" <ceo8@iinet.net.au> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:52 AM Sounds ideal John. In any group of people interested in railways, there will always be a built-in locomotive bias among those members who make working models. But I'd be surprised if any browser reading the words on the Home Page left without joining on the misapprehension that LRRSA doesn't do locomotives. Also there is no problem with an Australian society looking after related interests in countries that don't have equivalent bodies. David 1/2d
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Re: Marysville devastation
Brian Millar <rallim56@...>
David,
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I wasn't referring to the Police or anyone connected with there investigation, I was meaning some Government official who maybe put in charge of any clean up. Cheers Brian Millar Qld. Aust.
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From: "David R Axup" <daxup@bigpond.net.au> To: <LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:46 PM Subject: RE: [LRRSA] Re: Marysville devastation G'day All, -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.234 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1952 - Release Date: 02/13/09 18:29:00
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Re: Marysville devastation
David Axup
G'day All,
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The town of Marysville is still currently being regarded as a crime scene with all that implies and the Disaster Victim Identification Teams haven't finished their very essential work in trying to locate and identify those who may have been killed. They are not the sort of people I would be labelling as bureaucrats. In the overall scale of this tragedy the Days tractor is pretty small potatoes. Cheers, David
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From: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au [mailto:LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au] On Behalf Of Brian Millar Sent: Saturday, 14 February 2009 2:50 PM To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Re: Marysville devastation Frank, My main concern is that currently the town proper isn't in the control of the towns people, but more probably being controlled by some bureaucrat who has little or no care for anything railway or historical, and is only interested in getting brownie points for cleaning up the aftermath, that's why if it was me I'd be making contact with someone in charge, just to make sure nothing gets carted away, in looking at photos of the Days tractor, it is mostly of steel construction so it should be possible to restore it cosmetically, the log buggies would have burned leaving only the iron work, but again they could be rebuilt with new timbers using the old iron work. Cheers Brian Millar Qld. Aust. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Stamford" <frank.stamford@ <mailto:frank.stamford%40bigpond.com> bigpond.com> To: <LRRSA@yahoogroups. <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au> com.au> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: [LRRSA] Re: Marysville devastation --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------PeterE.02/12/09 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.234 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1952 - Release Date: 02/12/09 18:46:00
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Re: Marysville devastation
Frank Stamford
Sorry, that last message was meant to go to Brian personally.
Regards, Frank
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Re: Marysville devastation
Frank Stamford
Hello Brian,
At 02:49 PM 14/02/2009, you wrote: Frank,No it isn't. It is in the hands of the police, who have forensic scientists looking through the ruins searching for bodies. that's Peter Evans will have exactly the same concerns. He is at Alexandra where most of the Marysville survivors are currently located, and has worked with Victorian bureaucracies for many years. He is intelligent, tactful, and has a track record of getting things done. in looking at photos of the Days tractor, itIt depends on how hot the fire was at that location. I have attached an item from today's Age which will help put you in the picture. Regards, Frank
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Re: Marysville devastation
Brian Millar <rallim56@...>
Frank,
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My main concern is that currently the town proper isn't in the control of the towns people, but more probably being controlled by some bureaucrat who has little or no care for anything railway or historical, and is only interested in getting brownie points for cleaning up the aftermath, that's why if it was me I'd be making contact with someone in charge, just to make sure nothing gets carted away, in looking at photos of the Days tractor, it is mostly of steel construction so it should be possible to restore it cosmetically, the log buggies would have burned leaving only the iron work, but again they could be rebuilt with new timbers using the old iron work. Cheers Brian Millar Qld. Aust.
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From: "Frank Stamford" <frank.stamford@bigpond.com> To: <LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: [LRRSA] Re: Marysville devastation
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Re: Title Photo.
Eddie Oliver <eoliver@...>
John Browning wrote:
As an experienced moderator of groups, Brad will probably have quite a reasonable idea of the type and level of interest most represented by those who visit discussion group pages such as ours. Sugar cane may have its own more specialised groups, but I would wager that a significant proportion of our newer members became interested in lrrsa through sugar cane.That's a very interesting observation. In contrast, I would think that very few people outside Queensland would have come in by that route. Of course that might launch debate about what a "significant proportion" would be, and in the context ANY proportion is significant - every new member is important; but if there is indeed a geographical variation in methods of attracting members, then that would be something to take into account in strategic plans. For instance around Sydney, there is some reason to believe that there is a growing interest in the various types of industrial and construction lines that Jim Longworth has been writing about so brilliantly; that territory is totally remote from sugar cane, and it could not be assumed that someone interested in the former would (at least initially) have much interest in the latter or vice-versa.
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