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Re: : New Facebook Group: Light Railways of Australia

Brad P
 

Hi Stuart,
               Fully agree on all points. There does seem more of a fear of Facebook, more so than other online forums, out there.
  Having owned (still do) many Yahoogroups and Facebook groups, I have noted a huge decline in the former, while the later have grown far beyond anything I could have dreamed of on Yahoogroups.
  The Yahoogroup search function seems to work better, but apart from that, I could not be happier with Facebook groups. I was one of those who avoided it in the early days, but in the eight years I have utilized it I can't say I have had any issues that I have not had elsewhere.
  I do have a wall. However, as has been said, you do not need to do as such to use the groups. A fake account can be set up (Facebook is cracking down on this now days) and groups joined.
  It would be advisable to approach the group owner first. Most of us really police applications for signs that you are interested in the topic. New accounts are treated with some suspicion by anyone who cares who comes on.

  I have three groups relevant to the LRRSA. All being research special interest type groups.
  None have been an issue, all enjoy a slowly growing membership and attract some truly great content. A terrific research tool as well.

Regards
Brad 
  

On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Copy Text Online copytext@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:
 

Sorry to revisit a subject that's a few days old but I think that some of you guys need to understand the reality of the world today.

I've been working in online marketing for the last 20 years and I can tell all of you who are afraid of joining Facebook because they will invade your privacy that that bus has already gone and the idea that you have anything left to protect is delusional.

You've joined this list on Yahoo and guess what ... there will be a Yahoo cookie on your computer that is constantly sending back a stream of data to Yahoo.

You've searched on Google and that means that there's a Google cookie on your computer that is constantly sending back a stream of information about you to Google and they are using every little bit of that data to compile a very comprehensive view of you.

You use Woolworths or Coles loyalty cards when you make a purchase? Those guys now know more about you than you know about yourself.

Sure, Facebook is going to gather information about you but what is it going to collect that you haven't already given away?

The only thing that you are doing by refusing to join Facebook is cutting yourself off from the information that you're interested in and no one in marketing cares whether you join or not because they already know everything there is to know about you.

It's a fact of life right now. You're really not protecting anything.

Of course you don't have to believe me ... you can keep living in your dream world ... but you can't escape the facts. If you want to be online ... even just for email ... then you have already given up everything that's worth knowing about you.

Stuart

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Re: : New Facebook Group: Light Railways of Australia

Stuart Livesey
 

Sorry to revisit a subject that's a few days old but I think that some of you guys need to understand the reality of the world today.

I've been working in online marketing for the last 20 years and I can tell all of you who are afraid of joining Facebook because they will invade your privacy that that bus has already gone and the idea that you have anything left to protect is delusional.

You've joined this list on Yahoo and guess what ... there will be a Yahoo cookie on your computer that is constantly sending back a stream of data to Yahoo.

You've searched on Google and that means that there's a Google cookie on your computer that is constantly sending back a stream of information about you to Google and they are using every little bit of that data to compile a very comprehensive view of you.

You use Woolworths or Coles loyalty cards when you make a purchase? Those guys now know more about you than you know about yourself.

Sure, Facebook is going to gather information about you but what is it going to collect that you haven't already given away?

The only thing that you are doing by refusing to join Facebook is cutting yourself off from the information that you're interested in and no one in marketing cares whether you join or not because they already know everything there is to know about you.

It's a fact of life right now. You're really not protecting anything.

Of course you don't have to believe me ... you can keep living in your dream world ... but you can't escape the facts. If you want to be online ... even just for email ... then you have already given up everything that's worth knowing about you.

Stuart

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Re: : New Facebook Group: Light Railways of Australia

David Halfpenny
 


On 14 Sep 2017, at 07:45, John Dennis jdennis412@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:

Correct, you need to have a facebook account to visit the group, but you do not need to be a group member to read the posts and enjoy the photos. You do need to be a group member in order to post. I'm not certain whether a facebook group can be made visible to people without a facebook account.

Nor am I, but it’s possible to customise oneself a stripped-down Facebook account specifically for participating in Facebook Groups. A nickname, if you wish; no personal information; no ‘wall’ of person posts; no Messaging; no ‘Friends’. And (using add-on F.B.Purity), a plain, uncluttered page with NO ADVERTS.

I share all manner of very serious reservations about Facebook, personally, commercially and politically. 
So it’s well worth saying that Facebook Groups is a world away from ‘ordinary’ Facebook. That may sound strange given that it has the same ‘look and feel’, but it operates very differently indeed, through specific Membership rather than a vast intertwined Network of ‘Friends”, “Friends of Friends’. Yes, it’s still Swimming with Sharks, but better caged. 

Yahoo Groups is presently unsupported, is doing weird stuff, and is yet to gain the attention of its new owners, for good or ill.
If Yahoo goes under, our present Best Shot at an email group is 'Groups io’, designed and supported by the geezer who originated what became Yahoo Groups. 

David 1/2d
Admin for many Yahoo Groups which I still much prefer.


Re: LRRSA Shop News

John Dennis
 

Sorry all,

The subject of Alan Williams presentation, and subsequent two part article in the ARE Magazine, was his recent visit to the various narrow gauge railways in Romania. 

John

On 14 September 2017 at 17:31, John Dennis <jdennis412@...> wrote:
Greetings all,

The LRRSA Shop has some new or updated, or "missing in action" publications available. 

A new book is another of Nick Anchen's wonderful series. Titled "Iron Roads in the Outback" the book covers the three "outback" Commonwealth Railways lines - the Trans-Australian, the Central Austraila and the Northern Australia Railway. Although a book on these railways would not normally be considered to be part of the LRRSA sales list, this book has a substantial portion dedicated to the two narrow gauge lines, which was we all know, were quirky enough to be almost considered as light railways. It's a substantial work, of 208 pages in landscape format, with 230 colour and B&W photos. The cost is $69.95 or $62.95 for members.

Another publication of Nick's has been re-released in a third, revised and updated edition. "Puffing Billy, Spirit of the Dandenongs" has a slightly smaller page size than it's predecessors, but 30% more pages (108), and has bigger photographs. This is a great book to give as a gift, as it is a fine introduction to the Puffing Billy railway. Cost is $36.00 ($32.40 to members)

We also have the revised (third) edition of "Climax, a locomotive resurrected" which brings the story of the second restoration of the Climax operating on the Puffing Billy railway up to date, covering the locos activities since being released to traffic. 32 pages with a mix of colour or duotone photographs. $10.00 (just $9.00 to LRRSA members)

When we ran out of stock of Peter Manning's excellent book "The Anatomy of the Darjeeling Garratt and the Engine it tried to Replace" we thought it was out of print, a thought reinforced when Camden Miniatures announced a reprint. However Peter had some stock of his own which he has provided to the Society, so we are pleased to announce that this book is now available again. Price is $39.95 ($35.95 for members). 

Finally, following Alan Williams excellent presentation to the Melbourne group meeting back in April, we have stock of the two issues of Australian Railway Enthusiast which contain his wonderful and evocative photographs. The second of these two issues also has some brilliant "steamy" photographs of the South Maitland Railway. We are selling the two magazines as a bundle, $9.95 for the two ($8.95 members price). 

Members will be able to order these from the Sales List included with the next issue of Light Railways. They can also be ordered online by going to http://lrrsa.org.au/LRR_Online_shop.html and following the link.

John Dennis
LRRSA Sales Officer


LRRSA Shop News

John Dennis
 

Greetings all,

The LRRSA Shop has some new or updated, or "missing in action" publications available. 

A new book is another of Nick Anchen's wonderful series. Titled "Iron Roads in the Outback" the book covers the three "outback" Commonwealth Railways lines - the Trans-Australian, the Central Austraila and the Northern Australia Railway. Although a book on these railways would not normally be considered to be part of the LRRSA sales list, this book has a substantial portion dedicated to the two narrow gauge lines, which was we all know, were quirky enough to be almost considered as light railways. It's a substantial work, of 208 pages in landscape format, with 230 colour and B&W photos. The cost is $69.95 or $62.95 for members.

Another publication of Nick's has been re-released in a third, revised and updated edition. "Puffing Billy, Spirit of the Dandenongs" has a slightly smaller page size than it's predecessors, but 30% more pages (108), and has bigger photographs. This is a great book to give as a gift, as it is a fine introduction to the Puffing Billy railway. Cost is $36.00 ($32.40 to members)

We also have the revised (third) edition of "Climax, a locomotive resurrected" which brings the story of the second restoration of the Climax operating on the Puffing Billy railway up to date, covering the locos activities since being released to traffic. 32 pages with a mix of colour or duotone photographs. $10.00 (just $9.00 to LRRSA members)

When we ran out of stock of Peter Manning's excellent book "The Anatomy of the Darjeeling Garratt and the Engine it tried to Replace" we thought it was out of print, a thought reinforced when Camden Miniatures announced a reprint. However Peter had some stock of his own which he has provided to the Society, so we are pleased to announce that this book is now available again. Price is $39.95 ($35.95 for members). 

Finally, following Alan Williams excellent presentation to the Melbourne group meeting back in April, we have stock of the two issues of Australian Railway Enthusiast which contain his wonderful and evocative photographs. The second of these two issues also has some brilliant "steamy" photographs of the South Maitland Railway. We are selling the two magazines as a bundle, $9.95 for the two ($8.95 members price). 

Members will be able to order these from the Sales List included with the next issue of Light Railways. They can also be ordered online by going to http://lrrsa.org.au/LRR_Online_shop.html and following the link.

John Dennis
LRRSA Sales Officer


Re: : New Facebook Group: Light Railways of Australia

John Dennis
 

Correct, you need to have a facebook account to visit the group, but you do not need to be a group member to read the posts and enjoy the photos. You do need to be a group member in order to post. I'm not certain whether a facebook group can be made visible to people without a facebook account.

John

On 14 September 2017 at 16:20, harveycr@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:
 

>In any case you can look at the Light Railways in Australia Facebook Group without joining Facebook by going to this website:
No you can't.


Colin



Re: : New Facebook Group: Light Railways of Australia

Colin Harvey
 

>In any case you can look at the Light Railways in Australia Facebook Group without joining Facebook by going to this website:
No you can't.

Colin


Re: New Facebook Group: Light Railways of Australia

David in Avenel
 

Noted Frank.   The trouble with parallel groups for the same interest, all the yahoo ones have died or are in the deep doldrums with the FB version seemingly more immediate or something.   I'm not a fan of FB despite having an account as I find time to view something other than yahoo - where it end up in my email inbox anyway - time wasted on doing something more productive.

Oh and I don't have a smart phone because I can't justify the monthly cost for the occasional use other than just as a phone.

On 14 September 2017 at 10:34, frank.stamford@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:
 

Hello all.

A new Facebook Group has been set up called 'Light Railways of Australia'. 

It has been designed to serve the similar purpose to this Yahoo Group. 

Contributions by members of this Group are very welcome. 

The Group is for people interested in the types of railways described in 'Light Railways' magazine. There are already a number of interesting photographs in the Group and members of this Yahoo Group  are encouraged to have a look at the new Group and to join.

You will find it here: 


https://www.facebook.com/groups/LightRailwaysAustralia/


Regards,

Frank





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Re: : New Facebook Group: Light Railways of Australia

Frank Stamford
 

Hello Philip,

On 14/09/2017 12:09 PM, philip.graham567@gmail.com [LRRSA] wrote:

I hope that similar information will continue to be published on this Group website for as long as is possible, because I am one of the "old fogies" who is distrustful of F....bk. Mind you, I guess e-Mail through Google, Yahoo and etc is not that much better?

-PGG-

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This Yahoo Group will remain operational for as long as its members keep using it, or for as long as Yahoo retains their Groups in operation.

But that does not mean that everything that is published on the Facebook Group will be repeated here. That would require an unreasonable amount of work on someone's part.

There are many Facebook Groups which are very well managed, and which perform admirably. A lot of them are history groups. Through those Groups a lot of newly found historic photographs have turned up and have been identified.

It is intended that Light Railways of Australia will be one of the well managed Groups, just as this Yahoo Group has been well managed.

From what I have seen, I think it is possible to keep undesirable posts (such as spam) out of a Facebook Group more easily than it is with Yahoo Groups. Yes - you can easily point to Facebook Groups which are undesirable, but they are undesirable because of the way they are managed.

In any case you can look at the Light Railways in Australia Facebook Group without joining Facebook by going to this website:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/LightRailwaysAustralia/

Going to that website is not harmful, but there are some beautiful photographs there! Not a lot at this stage, but bear in mind the Group has only been Public for about four hours, but it already has about 62 members.

Regards,
Frank



<https://www.facebook.com/groups/LightRailwaysAustralia/>


Re: : New Facebook Group: Light Railways of Australia

Eddie Oliver
 

On 14.09.2017 12:09, philip.graham567@gmail.com [LRRSA] wrote:
I hope that similar information will continue to be published on this
Group website for as long as is possible, because I am one of the "old
fogies" who is distrustful of F....bk.
Hear, hear. Distrustful for a myriad of very good reasons.


Re: : New Facebook Group: Light Railways of Australia

Philip G Graham
 

I hope that similar information will continue to be published on this Group website for as long as is possible, because I am one of the "old fogies" who is distrustful of F....bk. Mind you, I guess e-Mail through Google, Yahoo and etc is not that much better?

-PGG-


New Facebook Group: Light Railways of Australia

Frank Stamford
 

Hello all.

A new Facebook Group has been set up called 'Light Railways of Australia'. 

It has been designed to serve the similar purpose to this Yahoo Group. 

Contributions by members of this Group are very welcome. 

The Group is for people interested in the types of railways described in 'Light Railways' magazine. There are already a number of interesting photographs in the Group and members of this Yahoo Group  are encouraged to have a look at the new Group and to join.

You will find it here: 


https://www.facebook.com/groups/LightRailwaysAustralia/


Regards,

Frank



Re: REALLY OFF TOPIC, was German narrow gauge

Michael C.
 

Dear all,
 
Apologies in advance if you are offended, but this email is totally off-topic...
 
Last month I plugged links to three albums of images of narrow gauge railways in Germany (see below).
 
My trip to Germany was via train, and I have now collated an album of images showing the journey there and some of the sights in Berlin.
 
Highlights include the trains including Grand Central, Eurostar, Thalys, Deutsche Bahn, the Berlin U-Bahn, S-Bahn and trams; a Bugatti Veyron, Trabants, the Berlin Wall, Checkpoint Charlie, the Brandenburg Gate, the Berlin Tower and Pandas - told you this was off-topic!
 
Take a look, but only if you're interested.
 
 
Cheers,
 
Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
Follow me on Twitter @mikenarrowgauge
Support the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WHHRly

 
 

In a message dated 13/08/2017 15:20:10 GMT Daylight Time, Chapmanmchapman@... writes:
Dear all,
 
Greetings from England.
 
Thank you for the latest issue of Light Railways - a super issue as always.
 
A couple of weeks ago I uploaded some images to Flickr showing my recent trip to Germany.
 
I have now finished uploading an album showing the 750mm gauge Lößnitzgrundbahn.
 
If you are ever in Dresden the railway is a very short distance away via commuter train from Dresden.
 
I broke the journey to have a quick look at Moritzburg castle so there are a couple of images showing this too.
 
Take a look if you're interested.
 
 
Cheers,
 
Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
Follow me on Twitter @mikenarrowgauge
Support the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WHHRly


 
 
In a message dated 01/08/2017 02:00:59 GMT Daylight Time, Chapmanmchapman@... writes:
Dear all,
 
I've just come back from Germany. 'Several' photographs were taken...
 
I have uploaded a couple of collections to Flickr:
 
The 15" gauge Dresdner Parkeisenbahn is here:
 
The newly-extended Weißeritztalbahn is here:
 
I also have images from the Lößnitzgrundbahn which I'll upload shortly...
 
Take a look if you're interested.
 
Cheers,
 
Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
Follow me on Twitter @mikenarrowgauge
Support the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WHHRly


Re: OFF TOPIC. More photos from Wales

BM
 

Michael,

A BIG DAY on the Welshpool & Lianfair Railway. I had the opportunity to travel on that line back in 2001 and enjoyed the experience.

 

I am still active as editor of Australian Railway History and last night I was the presenter at the ARHSnsw general meeting with a Powerpoint collection of images on rail heritage in South Australia.

 

Best Wishes

Bob McKillop

 

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To: lrrsa@...
Subject: [LRRSA] Re: OFF TOPIC. More photos from Wales

 

 

Dear all,

 

Another weekend - another gala in Wales.

 

Last weekend the 2'6" gauge Welshpool & Llanfair Light Railway (http://www.wllr.org.uk/) in mid Wales held their annual steam gala.

 

It was great fun with visiting traction engines, real ale, a steam powered car, night photography and a visiting locomotive from the Sittingbourne and Kemsley Light Railway in Kent (http://www.sklr.net/).

 

What makes the WLLR so interesting is that in addition to the two Beyer Peacock locomotives, the railway also has an international collection of locomotives and carriages from Africa and continental Europe.

 

I have uploaded a collection of images to Flickr.

 

 

Take a look if you're interested.

 

Cheers,

 

Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
Follow me on Twitter @mikenarrowgauge
Support the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WHHRly



 

 

In a message dated 31/08/2017 05:55:49 GMT Daylight Time, Chapmanmchapman@... writes:

Dear all,

 

Greetings from the United Kingdom.

 

Last weekend I visited the two foot gauge Bala Lake Railway for their gala.

 

It was really good with five quarry Hunslets in steam.

 

I've uploaded a collection of images to Flickr. Take a look if you're interested:

 

 

Cheers,

 

Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
Follow me on Twitter @mikenarrowgauge
Support the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WHHRly




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Re: OFF TOPIC. More photos from Wales

Michael C.
 

Dear all,
 
Another weekend - another gala in Wales.
 
Last weekend the 2'6" gauge Welshpool & Llanfair Light Railway (http://www.wllr.org.uk/) in mid Wales held their annual steam gala.
 
It was great fun with visiting traction engines, real ale, a steam powered car, night photography and a visiting locomotive from the Sittingbourne and Kemsley Light Railway in Kent (http://www.sklr.net/).
 
What makes the WLLR so interesting is that in addition to the two Beyer Peacock locomotives, the railway also has an international collection of locomotives and carriages from Africa and continental Europe.
 
I have uploaded a collection of images to Flickr.
 
 
Take a look if you're interested.
 
Cheers,
 
Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
Follow me on Twitter @mikenarrowgauge
Support the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WHHRly


 
 

In a message dated 31/08/2017 05:55:49 GMT Daylight Time, Chapmanmchapman@... writes:
Dear all,
 
Greetings from the United Kingdom.
 
Last weekend I visited the two foot gauge Bala Lake Railway for their gala.
 
It was really good with five quarry Hunslets in steam.
 
I've uploaded a collection of images to Flickr. Take a look if you're interested:
 
 
Cheers,
 
Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
Follow me on Twitter @mikenarrowgauge
Support the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WHHRly


OFF TOPIC. More photos from Wales

Michael C.
 

Dear all,
 
Greetings from the United Kingdom.
 
Last weekend I visited the two foot gauge Bala Lake Railway for their gala.
 
It was really good with five quarry Hunslets in steam.
 
I've uploaded a collection of images to Flickr. Take a look if you're interested:
 
 
Cheers,
 
Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
Follow me on Twitter @mikenarrowgauge
Support the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WHHRly


Re: NSW wharves 1892

Petan
 

Thanks for the great responses!!! Some of the cane lines to the wharves were **proposed** as non standard cane tramway gauges eg the PWD annual report 1894 Jan to 1895 June has a couple of three foot gauge horse drawn lines being surveyed around the Tweed. I am working on a piece for a LR's research section on these horse drawn cane lines to wharves and using CC Singleton's 1948 and John Armstrong's 1976 Bulletin articles as the foundation.

Cheers
Peter Cokley


Trove Brisbane images

Petan
 

Trove’s Facebook has announced over 8,000 images from Brisbane Libraries are now in Trove. The following gives the main link and just add something railway related after the search term that appears there. I added “railway” to the “nuc:QBCL” that resulted from that link to give “nuc:QBCL railway” which gave me 104 results.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/picture/result?q=nuc%3AQBCL&sortby=dateAsc

 

One of the results was a cadastral; Asset Name: Proposed rail line to Lytton, 1900, File Size: 1.36 MB  

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley


Re: NSW wharves 1892

David Halfpenny
 

On 30 Aug 2017, at 03:14, Kevin Sewell kevinrsewell@gmail.com [LRRSA] <LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au> wrote:

It is entirely possible that the reverse terminology/regime was applied to wharves but thats not logical or consistent. Possible but not logical.
Irrelevant anecdote:

At Fen Ditton in England, all water traffic is required to cross over twice in quick succession. Given that the river is sharply S shaped, this probably counts as "Logical if not Consistent”.

It sure gets a lot of non-boatmen into a lather as other craft lurch inexplicably into their path, shouting :-)

David 1/2d


Re: NSW wharves 1892

rthorne475
 

Yes, the 'Left Bank' in Paris, for example.



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Sent: Wednesday, 30 August 2017, 5:49
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] NSW wharves 1892

 
On 30.08.2017 11:36, 'Peter Cokley' yahoomail@... [LRRSA] wrote:
> The 1892 NSW government wharves list uses the left and right side of
> river terminology. Cudgen wharf is shown as right bank and Tweed Heads
> left bank. That only matches if heading downstream. Any folk here know
> if that downstream terminology assumption is correct?
>

That is certainly standard usage and has presumably not changed over the
years. Google
left bank right definition downstream
to get numerous references.



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