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Re: STANNARY HILLS photos

John Dennis <jdennis@...>
 

The photos of Pompey were taken by a hired photographer shortly after
the tramway was opened. You will notice the general "rawness" of the
scenery. There is a series of photos (18 perhaps) and large size
prints were sold as a set at the centenary. When I visited I was
offered a set, but declined for reasons which were no doubt sound at
the time, but I can't remember now why I would have done such a thing!

The photos of Ivanhoe Mine (05,06) were taken by the local Stannary
Hills doctor, who was an enthusiastic amateur photographer. He walked
out with his two children (seen in the photo of the overline loading
bins of the "new" Ivanhoe mine). Other photos taken by this gent,
probably on the same visit, suggest that the mine may not have been
pen as yet.

Of course, photo 24 is not a Stannary Hills photo, being a derailed QR
loco, although I do have a photo of the Avonside in a similar
inelegant pose.

John

On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 08:18:45 +1100 (Tasmania Daylight Time), "Ron &
Hilary Martin" <ronhil@iinet.net.au> wrote:

Many thanks for that link, John.

These must have been fairly early photographs. Apart from the standard
picture of the Avonside, the only loco that appears in them is the Krauss,
Pompey', with its original 'flowerpot' chimney.

That, by the way, is one of the three chimney options on the new O Scale
Krauss, from Inscale Models, which will be shown at the Convention at Easter
The others are the straight variety as on the Tasmanian 'H' Class, and,
later on 'Pompey', and the balloon style as added at Rubicon.

Ron
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Re: STANNARY HILLS photos

Ron & Hilary Martin <ronhil@...>
 

Many thanks for that link, John.

These must have been fairly early photographs. Apart from the standard
picture of the Avonside, the only loco that appears in them is the Krauss,
Pompey', with its original 'flowerpot' chimney.

That, by the way, is one of the three chimney options on the new O Scale
Krauss, from Inscale Models, which will be shown at the Convention at Easter
The others are the straight variety as on the Tasmanian 'H' Class, and,
later on 'Pompey', and the balloon style as added at Rubicon.

Ron

-------Original Message-------

From: john browning
Date: 23/02/2009 11:03:52 PM
To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: [LRRSA] STANNARY HILLS photos

Brian Webber has pointed out this interesting collection at:

http://gallery.wheelsonsteel.com.au/main.php?g2_itemId=26200


John

John Browning


STANNARY HILLS photos

John Browning
 

Brian Webber has pointed out this interesting collection at:

http://gallery.wheelsonsteel.com.au/main.php?g2_itemId=26200


John

John Browning
Brisbane
Queensland
Australia

PO Box 99
Annerley 4103

Phone +61 (0)7 3255 9084

Mobile 0407 069 199


Re: TACL tractors of the Tyers Valley Tramway

Marie and David Lowe
 

Thanks, so the TACL in pieces with the Climax photographed by E.A. Downs in 1954 would not be the one restored as the other apparently was still in operation then. We moved to Erica in 1979, not much of the mill left then, I think what remained went up in smoke soon after.Still had my wife's first car then, Hillman Minx Series three C, with a flash pink stripe. Not much clearance for a Mini Cooper on some of the local roads 40 years ago.
Cheers David Lowe




________________________________
From: Bill Hanks <bhanks@railsignallingservices.com.au>
To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au
Sent: Monday, 16 February, 2009 1:58:43 PM
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] TACL tractors of the Tyers Valley Tramway


David,

I believe that the TACL now at Puffing Billy was still at Erica until at
least late 1969.

Not long after I got my first car in mid '69 (A Mini Cooper), two
friends and I travelled to Walhalla, stopping off at Erica to look at
the sawmill.

I photographed the remaining NQRs and the TACL at the time.

Regards,

Bill Hanks

From: LRRSA@yahoogroups. com.au [mailto:LRRSA@yahoogroups. com.au] On
Behalf Of Marie and David Lowe
Sent: Monday, 16 February 2009 3:35 PM
To: LRRSA@yahoogroups. com.au
Subject: [LRRSA] TACL tractors of the Tyers Valley Tramway

Trying to sort out which TACL tractor is preserved at Puffing Billy.
In 'A Day in the Life of G42' pages 18 and 19, The Climax is pictured
with a somewhat dilapidated TACL tractor.
Is this the one that is now restored, or is it the other mentioned on
p19 that was still in active service at the mill in the early 60's.
I have LR168 Dec. 2002 regarding the launch of the restored TACL (great
article) and note from 'On this Day ' site that it arrived at Emerald in
December 1974.
However it was not moved with the Climax as that occurred on Wed 5th May
1965.
And if it is not the one still in active service in the early 60's where
is it now?
It would be great to find out.
David.

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Re: How Did You Come To Join The LRRSA?

Bill Russell
 

G'day All,

A couple of comments on Rod's piece, just to correct the historical record.

1 The term "Puffing Billy" was in use for the UFTG - Gembrook train in the early or mid
1940s. I recall my father using the term before my first ride to Gembrook about 1944/45.

2 The "Young Sun" specials ran from UFTG to Belgrave a/c the landslide which lead to
the closere of the line, which lead to .... etc..

Regards,
Bill Russell

P.S. Why did I join the LRRSA? I recognised the quality of its publications

On 20 Feb 2009 at 8:13, Roderick B Smith wrote:

This is sounding almost like an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting. Or the
parody Dogs Anonymous: 'My name is Rover, and I have scratched my
balls only once this week', followed by wild cheers.

My name is Rod, and I joined VLRRS (wild cheers from the seated
audience) before the name change to reflect the wider interests.

I had been interested in ng from seeing the VR ng in action through
Emerald Lake before the term 'Puffing Billy' had been coined. I was
on a Young Sun farewell. My family had visited in various subsequent
eras. I had also seen ng steam in action on Qld sugar mills in 1956,
and had read a variety of books about UK ng steam railways (from the
bookmobile, calling at Balwyn, and from my school library).

On 1.8.1965, I was newly 16 and flexing my independence. I went to
Puffing Billy for the inaugural day of the extension to Emerald. I
met Frank Stamford, and found out about VLRRS. We had a mutual
friend, Jeff Gardner, who had been part of the founding group at
Camberwell High School. I joined. I helped with collation and
mailouts when 'Light Railways' was prepared using wax stencils on an
antique Gestetner at McGregor St (Canterbury). I went on the early
bus tours to places of interest. Next I was treasurer, then
president (after a tense meeting, at which the famous Les Poole spoke
eloquently and soothed the emotions of the younger members). I knew
Mark Plummer, and was a guest at his 21st. There were lots of other
friends in the group, and at committee meetings. Phil's father,
Lionel, hosted committee meetings in his Heathmont home. Arthur
Straffen was a familiar face in the distance on various railway-
enthusiast tours. One day, I was chasing a Vintage Train to
Healesville, on my motorcycle. Rain poured down at Lilydale. I
looked around in desperation, saw a familiar face in a grey & white
Holden EJ, and went over and introduced myself. Arthur took me
aboard, to Healesville and back. Since then, we have been paired on
overseas tours to India and Philippines, both of which featured ng
railways. I have been on a lot of memorable exploration hikes, with
LRRSA and independently. I once led a group of 16 yos on a hike
through the Ada mill area. They were not railway enthusiasts, but
were overawed by the sense of stepping back 50 years into the past as
they walked along clearly-visible remains. One of the themes which I
have enjoyed is that we track not only the light railways, but the
industries which they served: full industrial archeology.

Regards,
Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor




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Re: How Did You Come To Join The LRRSA?

Bill
 

Howdy,

In the mid 1970s until the  early 2000s, I was deeply involved with the Pichi Richi Railway Preservation Society - I sought to visit kindred societies.

I have always had an interest in railways, ranging from the woodlines radiating from Kalgoorlie and Gwalia; through tracks on jetties; to Puffing Billy and the Lithgow ZigZag and Kuranda Scenic Railway; to the Cane networks in Qld .. and trains in Currumbin Sanctuary and the Big Pineapple etc. Historic museums [and open air collections of relics] also caught our attention ... Normanton and Croydon in FNQ.

Thought the mining stuff was great - anywhere ...

Shays in the Wolgan Valley started research, as did a most welcoming visit to the ILRMS in the early 1980s - that's when I started subscribing ... I drifted away for a while ... illness and five other railway related subscriptions. In 2003, I was doing some research at the National Railway Museum in Adelaide and by chance caught up with the doyen of LRRSA in Adelaide, Arnold Lockyer. With his help and encouragement I readily signed up, and tried to attend the very welcoming and informative monthly meetings.

My wife and I continually try to hunt out narrow gauge formations and relics - to photograph, where-ever we may be.

The magazine is sensational, and the few times I've sought info or ordered books, they have been attended to promptly

Regards,
Bill





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Re: How Did You Come To Join The LRRSA?

David Axup
 

G'day Rod,



Only once? Almost immune by the sound of it. I almost said cured but that
is never the case.



Still your analogy has a lot of truth in it. About 2 years ago I was on a
job in a remote part of Queensland alongside the line from Mount Isa to
Townsville and talking to a group of five from my client's mob when there
was the distant sound of a diesel. From high powered executives to train
buffs in a micro second six of us stood by the line watching a triple headed
3'6" gauge ore train headed towards Townsville. Not light railways but
still intoxicating.



In the same micro second the interest changed from the task at hand to
railways with each of us reminiscing about how we became interested in
trains.



Cheers,



David

-----Original Message-----
From: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au [mailto:LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au] On Behalf
Of Roderick B Smith
Sent: Friday, 20 February 2009 7:14 PM
To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: [LRRSA] Re: How Did You Come To Join The LRRSA?



This is sounding almost like an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting. Or the
parody Dogs Anonymous: 'My name is Rover, and I have scratched my
balls only once this week', followed by wild cheers.

.

Regards,
Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor


Re: How Did You Come To Join The LRRSA?

Roderick Smith
 

This is sounding almost like an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting. Or the
parody Dogs Anonymous: 'My name is Rover, and I have scratched my
balls only once this week', followed by wild cheers.

My name is Rod, and I joined VLRRS (wild cheers from the seated
audience) before the name change to reflect the wider interests.

I had been interested in ng from seeing the VR ng in action through
Emerald Lake before the term 'Puffing Billy' had been coined. I was
on a Young Sun farewell. My family had visited in various subsequent
eras. I had also seen ng steam in action on Qld sugar mills in 1956,
and had read a variety of books about UK ng steam railways (from the
bookmobile, calling at Balwyn, and from my school library).

On 1.8.1965, I was newly 16 and flexing my independence. I went to
Puffing Billy for the inaugural day of the extension to Emerald. I
met Frank Stamford, and found out about VLRRS. We had a mutual
friend, Jeff Gardner, who had been part of the founding group at
Camberwell High School. I joined. I helped with collation and
mailouts when 'Light Railways' was prepared using wax stencils on an
antique Gestetner at McGregor St (Canterbury). I went on the early
bus tours to places of interest. Next I was treasurer, then
president (after a tense meeting, at which the famous Les Poole spoke
eloquently and soothed the emotions of the younger members). I knew
Mark Plummer, and was a guest at his 21st. There were lots of other
friends in the group, and at committee meetings. Phil's father,
Lionel, hosted committee meetings in his Heathmont home. Arthur
Straffen was a familiar face in the distance on various railway-
enthusiast tours. One day, I was chasing a Vintage Train to
Healesville, on my motorcycle. Rain poured down at Lilydale. I
looked around in desperation, saw a familiar face in a grey & white
Holden EJ, and went over and introduced myself. Arthur took me
aboard, to Healesville and back. Since then, we have been paired on
overseas tours to India and Philippines, both of which featured ng
railways. I have been on a lot of memorable exploration hikes, with
LRRSA and independently. I once led a group of 16 yos on a hike
through the Ada mill area. They were not railway enthusiasts, but
were overawed by the sense of stepping back 50 years into the past as
they walked along clearly-visible remains. One of the themes which I
have enjoyed is that we track not only the light railways, but the
industries which they served: full industrial archeology.

Regards,
Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor


Re: How Did You Come To Join The LRRSA?

Scott Gould <sncs@...>
 

Hi All,

Was invited by a friend (T.Sedawie) to go on a P.Evans walk in the
Marysville- Taggerty reigon in the late Eighties. Tony had photos of
Nth Cascade creek bridge on the Thompson valley tramway hung on his
wall at home. I brought a copy of 'Trestle bridges & Tramlines',
started buying Light railways, and after quite a few years joined up as
a member. The Peter Evans weekend trips in November for the past five
or six years were great, looking at tramways and relics throughout
Victoria, and a chance to get away camping and a few beers with friends
once a year.

--- In LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au, Stuart Thyer <s.thyer@...> wrote:

Got introduced through one of Peter Evans weekend walks. Enjoyed it,
next step was to join the LRRSA.

Stuart Thyer


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Interesting Pics of Powelltown Rly

Stuart Thyer <s.thyer@...>
 

These may not be new to many here, but I hadn't come across them before.
Page 3 of the thread if it doesn't take you there directly.

http://www.railbastard.com/some-interesting-old-pictures-t1004-30.html


Re: [ausnarrowgauge] Thrrottles - Harman & Ezards [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

bll_hnks
 

Whilst Ezard's loco used O&K parts such as cylinders and cab, photographic evidence has suggested to me that the boiler was from a Krauss. So a Krauss throttle arrangement would be appropriate on a model.

But, another source has quoted Jack Ezard himself a saying he only obtained one locomotive from the Goodwood tramway at Port Albert. Maybe Jack obtained the rolling chassis and cab from one loco and the boiler from another, hence his belief many many years later that he did only obtain one loco.

I hope this doesn't confuse the matter. Other people may have different thoughts on this.

Regards,

Bill Hanks



From: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au [mailto:LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au] On Behalf Of Rod Hutchinson
Sent: Thursday, 19 February 2009 8:57 AM
To: ausnarrowgauge@yahoogroups.com; LRRSA
Subject: [LRRSA] RE: [ausnarrowgauge] Thrrottles - Harman & Ezards [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]



Hi Mark,

Thanks for the input. I have had a look at the photos of the Harman and
those of the model on Dave Fletcher's site. It looks like the throttle
linkage is hidden, and may run through the boiler cladding, so
presumably it is a pivot design.

For Ezards, I'll use a small O&K loco throttle arrangement and presume
the rest.

If John Browning (LRRSA) is reading this:
Can you give me your best guess as to the probability that Ezard's
hybrid loco used an O&K backhead and throttle arrangement?

Regards
Rod Hutchinson

-----Original Message-----
From: ausnarrowgauge@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ausnarrowgauge%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:ausnarrowgauge@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ausnarrowgauge%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Mark K
Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 6:24 PM
To: ausnarrowgauge@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ausnarrowgauge%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [ausnarrowgauge] Thrrottles - Harman & Ezards
[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Hi Rod,
I'm no expert and I'd be happy to stand corrected, but I believe that
pull out throttles are more common on US locos, while pivot throttles
are more UK. This helps with neither of your locos...however, pull out
throttles are usually mounted above the firebox crown and have the
throttle linkage running to the steam dome above the boiler, while pivot
throttles are on the backhead amongst the water gauges, and the throttle
linkage runs through the boiler or cladding and is thus out of sight.
Of course there will be exceptions to every rule.

Small O&K locos had visible throttle linkages and so I reckon they'd be
pull-out type. I didn't think the Ezard's contraption used the O&K
boiler though.
Hope that helps,
Mark K


Re: [ausnarrowgauge] Thrrottles - Harman & Ezards [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Rod Hutchinson <r.hutchinson@...>
 

Hi Mark,

Thanks for the input. I have had a look at the photos of the Harman and
those of the model on Dave Fletcher's site. It looks like the throttle
linkage is hidden, and may run through the boiler cladding, so
presumably it is a pivot design.

For Ezards, I'll use a small O&K loco throttle arrangement and presume
the rest.

If John Browning (LRRSA) is reading this:
Can you give me your best guess as to the probability that Ezard's
hybrid loco used an O&K backhead and throttle arrangement?

Regards
Rod Hutchinson

-----Original Message-----
From: ausnarrowgauge@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:ausnarrowgauge@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark K
Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 6:24 PM
To: ausnarrowgauge@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ausnarrowgauge] Thrrottles - Harman & Ezards
[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Hi Rod,
I'm no expert and I'd be happy to stand corrected, but I believe that
pull out throttles are more common on US locos, while pivot throttles
are more UK. This helps with neither of your locos...however, pull out
throttles are usually mounted above the firebox crown and have the
throttle linkage running to the steam dome above the boiler, while pivot
throttles are on the backhead amongst the water gauges, and the throttle
linkage runs through the boiler or cladding and is thus out of sight.
Of course there will be exceptions to every rule.

Small O&K locos had visible throttle linkages and so I reckon they'd be
pull-out type. I didn't think the Ezard's contraption used the O&K
boiler though.
Hope that helps,
Mark K


Re: Marysville devastation

Peter Evans
 

Thanks Keith both for your work with the CFA and for the pictures of
Marysville.



The Day's rail tractor seems to have escaped almost without damage apart
from the loss of its roof. I think it is important that it be restored as a
symbol of Marysville's past, and I'm sure that the locals will agree. I will
make contact shortly. Incidentally, the last of your pictures demonstrates
extremely well the RSJ frame created by Grocke of South Melbourne to replace
the original cast frame that the tractor had on the Starvation Creek tramway
when it was new.



The Alexandra Timber Tramway has cancelled the diesel running day this
weekend out of respect for the National Day of Mourning and the loss of so
many of our district neighbours in these devastating bushfires.



Peter Evans

Production Management, Corporate Writing and Heritage Services

0407 537 837

www.peterevans.com.au <http://www.peterevans.com.au/>

peter@peterevans.com.au


Photo of "Powellite" ex Sun News Pictorial 30 July 1932

Frank Stamford
 

I have just uploaded a copy of a photograph of the Bagnall loco
"Powellite" published in the Sun News Pictorial, 30 July 1932. It is
in the album on this Yahoo group called "Frank's photos".

The published caption on the photograph makes no sense. The photograph
was taken somewhere between Yarra Junction and Powelltown, and the
train is bound for Powelltown. I think it would be on the Saxton Creek
bridge at Gilderoy, since that bridge would have been easily
accessible for a photographer.

It is interesting that the loco is pushing a wagon in front of it, and
that the passenger car seems to be a much lighter colour than the meat
van. Both were painted red, it is possible the paint job on the meat
van was new, as the meat van itself was pretty new, and the passenger
car's paint job was faded.

Regards,

Frank


Re: How Did You Come To Join The LRRSA?

Stuart Thyer <s.thyer@...>
 

Got introduced through one of Peter Evans weekend walks. Enjoyed it,
next step was to join the LRRSA.

Stuart Thyer


Re: How Did You Come To Join The LRRSA?

John Browning
 

Growing up in England, I became interested in narrow gauge railways from the
time I first visited the Festiniog Railway in 1965.

I began to attend meetings of the Narrow Gauge Railway Society when I lived
in Leeds and from time to time there were slide shows on Queensland cane
railways.



Through my membership of NGRS, I became aware of "Light Railways" and pored
through every issue of "Light Railways" held by the NGRS Library looking for
information on cane railways.



On my arrival in Victoria in 1975 (rejected by Queensland!), I wrote to
Frank Stamford enquiring after 2ft gauge railways and at the same time
joined LRRSA.



No looking back since.



John



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Brisbane
Queensland
Australia



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Re: Marysville devastation

John Browning
 

Dear Keith

Thank you for posting the photos and thank you for your work with the
CFA. Your job is one that most people would not think of, but I
imagine it is a very important one, particularly at the present time.

Your photos show that the Days tractor and accompanying rolling-stock
were certainly affected by the fire, but certainly not destroyed.

Even in its current stste it is an apt symbol for all who see it that
life in Marysville will go on.

Best wishes

John


Marysville devastation

Keith Pakenham <kcekeith@...>
 

I am a very active member of the CFA. My main role within CFA besides
fighting fires is to record on stills and video cameras significant
events. On Sunday the 8th of Feb one of many areas I visted was
Marysville. It has been a truely devastating last few weeks and my
heart goes out to all involved.

One item I did capture was the tractor which I have posted in my Album
(KeithP) for you to view. The images were taken around 8:30 pm on the
day after the fire-front. The rear end of the log was still smouldering
and a few embers were dropping in the gusty wind.

I have posted these shots purely for your interest and discussion.

Please support the Bushfire Appeal if you can.

Regards Keith P.


Re: Title Photograph.

Scott Gould <sncs@...>
 

Hi Bob and all,

I welcome the coverage of the overseas happenings, to me it gives an
insight into the way things were done in Australia's formative years,
when we were a colony struggling to develop reasonable infrastrucure.
As someone who has had little overseas travel experience, the
knowledge that can be gained from the comfort of an armchair is much
appreciated. I don't think there would be a way to produce a magazine
to cater to everyones tastes all the time, but the editorial team do
a fantastic job! Keep up the good work Fellas.
Brad, I like your idea of a readers poll for the title photo, there
must be some great stuff out there that seldom sees the light of day.
I see the title page when logging in at work, and seeing something
different from time to time is a good thing.

Regards,

Scott



--- In LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au, BLI BLI <alcogoodwin@...> wrote:

Hi Bob,
          I suppose I have pretty much given my views in
this thread already.
  However I have never had any real cause for complaint, I have
found every since issue interesting since the first day I subscribed
back in the 90s and read them cover to cover.
 
  Its a shame more people don't take at least a little interest in
railways overseas, there are some really fascinating operations out
there.
  The overseas content in LR is interesting and hardly overwhelmes
the Australian content.
 
Keep up the great work.
 
BRad

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