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Re: : Re: Metro Tunnels might utilise tunnel locos?

Philip G Graham
 

Stuart

Yes, more encouraging. There seems to have not have been an announcement as to which TBM manufacturer is to supply these yet.

For the initial assembly of the TBM there needs to be an external cradle structure to support the circular shape of the the shield until it starts its penetration. The TBM back-up is the name for the trailing support equipment which runs on either wide gauge rails or rubber tyres on the ring surface - behind the actual boring head, and is where the ring segments are placed in position. After each ring is completed, the TBM hydraulically thrusts forward off this ring, boring the next length by a similar width of the ring. For the initial launch a frame structure is used to enable something for the TBM to thrust against until sufficient rings are in place. Advance rates are usually quoted by how many rings are placed daily, weekly, etc.

If there is to be a construction railway delivering ring segments, then it will become apparent when the back-up is being assembled, if this is within public eye view. Is the Marrickville site reasonably open? i.e. not down the bottom of a deep shaft? The conrail or the MPVs run directly into the interior of the back-up.

I would say that the Melbourne sites are going to be much more confined, but this does not necessarily rule out a conrail operation.

-PGG-


Re: Light Railways 257

Kevin Sewell
 



On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Frank Stamford wrote:
 


As regards the progress of this issue through the mail system, Australia Post seems to have processed this issue extremely quickly. 

Google mail was its usual slow instantaneous delivery again. I had read it cover to cover and was ready for the next issue before you guys even got the printed version to the post box.



 
Cheers,
Kevin

Blowing out someone else's candle does not make your's burn any brighter.


Re: Light Railways 257

Frank Stamford
 


Hello Chris,

On 27/09/2017 5:52 PM, 'Chris Stratton' gm4201@... [LRRSA] wrote:
 

Mine arrived today and I was very disappointed to find my hometown of Wollongong spelt incorrectly three times in the Industrial Railway News section.


Our apologies for causing you this diappointment. It was an unfortunate error, and since everything that appears in Light Railways is read by at least two people we would have hoped that errors like this did not slip through. May be we need more proof readers.

The error arose because the person who prepared the item was more familiar with hearing "Wollongong" spoken, rather than seeing it in writing.

As regards the progress of this issue through the mail system, Australia Post seems to have processed this issue extremely quickly.

Regards,
Frank

 

Regards,

Chris

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2017 5:40 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] Light Railways 257

 




Nobody seems to have posted a report as yet … however my members’ copy of the latest issue was in my post office Box today, Wednesday.   Thanks guys – another most interesting issue, well produced.

Hunslet.

 



Re: Light Railways 257

dickwho1
 

Mine arrived in Broken Hill on Tuesday.
Dick


On 27 Sep 2017, at 17:10, 'Hunslet' hunslet@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:

 

Nobody seems to have posted a report as yet … however my members’ copy of the latest issue was in my post office Box today, Wednesday.   Thanks guys – another most interesting issue, well produced.

Hunslet.

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Friday, 22 September 2017 6:39 PM
To: LRRSA Yahoogroup <LRRSA@...>
Subject: [LRRSA] Light Railways 257

 

 

The mail-out team did a sterling job last night, packing the magazine and no less than five inserts. The mag is now in the hands of Australia Post and (with luck) in members' letter boxes from early next week. I'm not certain when Gordon and Gotch will deliver the magazine to newsagents - that may not happen until closer to the end of the month.

The contents of this issue:

The later years of the Marrawah Tramway (Tas)

The East Greta Coal Mining Company and the European War (NSW)

Singleton Target Range light railways (NSW)

Looking back - Garratt action in the Otways (Vic)

Industrial Railway News - 23 items from around Australia and Fiji

Treasures from Trove: A Dreadful Alternative and a hairbreadth escape (Vic)

Treasures from Trove: The Timber Getters (Vic)

Letters - An interesting rail wagon

Life Memberships: Phil Rickard; Bill Hanks

JLN Southern Award report

Field Reports - Harper’s Mill, Mount Disappointment (Vic) Gauge 1067mm

Heritage &amp; Tourist News - 12 items from Australia and United Kingdom

If you are not a member and can't wait for G&G you can always buy from our online shop:

http://lightrailwayresearchsocietyofaustralia.cart.net.au/Light-Railways-No257-October-2017

or for the PDF version:

http://lightrailwayresearchsocietyofaustralia.cart.net.au/Light-Railways-No257-October-2017-pdf-download

Or better still, subscribe online at:

http://lrrsa.org.au/LRRSA_Join_Renew.html

and the current issue (and those remaining in the year) will be mailed directly to your letter box.

 

John Dennis
LRRSA


Re: Light Railways 257

Mike Bickford
 

Mine arrived in Tuesdays mail in Harden-Murrumburrah.
Interesting read as always.
 
Mike Bickford
 

From: 'Chris Stratton' gm4201@... [LRRSA]
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 5:52 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] Light Railways 257
 


Mine arrived today and I was very disappointed to find my hometown of Wollongong spelt incorrectly three times in the Industrial Railway News section.

 

Regards,

Chris

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2017 5:40 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] Light Railways 257

 




Nobody seems to have posted a report as yet … however my members’ copy of the latest issue was in my post office Box today, Wednesday.   Thanks guys – another most interesting issue, well produced.

Hunslet.

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Friday, 22 September 2017 6:39 PM
To: LRRSA Yahoogroup <LRRSA@...>
Subject: [LRRSA] Light Railways 257

 

 

The mail-out team did a sterling job last night, packing the magazine and no less than five inserts. The mag is now in the hands of Australia Post and (with luck) in members' letter boxes from early next week. I'm not certain when Gordon and Gotch will deliver the magazine to newsagents - that may not happen until closer to the end of the month.

The contents of this issue:

The later years of the Marrawah Tramway (Tas)

The East Greta Coal Mining Company and the European War (NSW)

Singleton Target Range light railways (NSW)

Looking back - Garratt action in the Otways (Vic)

Industrial Railway News - 23 items from around Australia and Fiji

Treasures from Trove: A Dreadful Alternative and a hairbreadth escape (Vic)

Treasures from Trove: The Timber Getters (Vic)

Letters - An interesting rail wagon

Life Memberships: Phil Rickard; Bill Hanks

JLN Southern Award report

Field Reports - Harper’s Mill, Mount Disappointment (Vic) Gauge 1067mm

Heritage &amp; Tourist News - 12 items from Australia and United Kingdom

If you are not a member and can't wait for G&G you can always buy from our online shop:

http://lightrailwayresearchsocietyofaustralia.cart.net.au/Light-Railways-No257-October-2017

or for the PDF version:

http://lightrailwayresearchsocietyofaustralia.cart.net.au/Light-Railways-No257-October-2017-pdf-download

Or better still, subscribe online at:

http://lrrsa.org.au/LRRSA_Join_Renew.html

and the current issue (and those remaining in the year) will be mailed directly to your letter box.

 

John Dennis
LRRSA

 





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Re: Light Railways 257

Chris Stratton
 

Mine arrived today and I was very disappointed to find my hometown of Wollongong spelt incorrectly three times in the Industrial Railway News section.

 

Regards,

Chris

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2017 5:40 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] Light Railways 257

 




Nobody seems to have posted a report as yet … however my members’ copy of the latest issue was in my post office Box today, Wednesday.   Thanks guys – another most interesting issue, well produced.

Hunslet.

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Friday, 22 September 2017 6:39 PM
To: LRRSA Yahoogroup <LRRSA@...>
Subject: [LRRSA] Light Railways 257

 

 

The mail-out team did a sterling job last night, packing the magazine and no less than five inserts. The mag is now in the hands of Australia Post and (with luck) in members' letter boxes from early next week. I'm not certain when Gordon and Gotch will deliver the magazine to newsagents - that may not happen until closer to the end of the month.

The contents of this issue:

The later years of the Marrawah Tramway (Tas)

The East Greta Coal Mining Company and the European War (NSW)

Singleton Target Range light railways (NSW)

Looking back - Garratt action in the Otways (Vic)

Industrial Railway News - 23 items from around Australia and Fiji

Treasures from Trove: A Dreadful Alternative and a hairbreadth escape (Vic)

Treasures from Trove: The Timber Getters (Vic)

Letters - An interesting rail wagon

Life Memberships: Phil Rickard; Bill Hanks

JLN Southern Award report

Field Reports - Harper’s Mill, Mount Disappointment (Vic) Gauge 1067mm

Heritage &amp; Tourist News - 12 items from Australia and United Kingdom

If you are not a member and can't wait for G&G you can always buy from our online shop:

http://lightrailwayresearchsocietyofaustralia.cart.net.au/Light-Railways-No257-October-2017

or for the PDF version:

http://lightrailwayresearchsocietyofaustralia.cart.net.au/Light-Railways-No257-October-2017-pdf-download

Or better still, subscribe online at:

http://lrrsa.org.au/LRRSA_Join_Renew.html

and the current issue (and those remaining in the year) will be mailed directly to your letter box.

 

John Dennis
LRRSA

 





Re: Light Railways 257

Hunslet
 

Nobody seems to have posted a report as yet … however my members’ copy of the latest issue was in my post office Box today, Wednesday.   Thanks guys – another most interesting issue, well produced.

Hunslet.

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Friday, 22 September 2017 6:39 PM
To: LRRSA Yahoogroup
Subject: [LRRSA] Light Railways 257

 

 

The mail-out team did a sterling job last night, packing the magazine and no less than five inserts. The mag is now in the hands of Australia Post and (with luck) in members' letter boxes from early next week. I'm not certain when Gordon and Gotch will deliver the magazine to newsagents - that may not happen until closer to the end of the month.

The contents of this issue:

The later years of the Marrawah Tramway (Tas)

The East Greta Coal Mining Company and the European War (NSW)

Singleton Target Range light railways (NSW)

Looking back - Garratt action in the Otways (Vic)

Industrial Railway News - 23 items from around Australia and Fiji

Treasures from Trove: A Dreadful Alternative and a hairbreadth escape (Vic)

Treasures from Trove: The Timber Getters (Vic)

Letters - An interesting rail wagon

Life Memberships: Phil Rickard; Bill Hanks

JLN Southern Award report

Field Reports - Harper’s Mill, Mount Disappointment (Vic) Gauge 1067mm

Heritage &amp; Tourist News - 12 items from Australia and United Kingdom

If you are not a member and can't wait for G&G you can always buy from our online shop:

http://lightrailwayresearchsocietyofaustralia.cart.net.au/Light-Railways-No257-October-2017

or for the PDF version:

http://lightrailwayresearchsocietyofaustralia.cart.net.au/Light-Railways-No257-October-2017-pdf-download

Or better still, subscribe online at:

http://lrrsa.org.au/LRRSA_Join_Renew.html

and the current issue (and those remaining in the year) will be mailed directly to your letter box.

 

John Dennis
LRRSA


Re: : Re: Metro Tunnels might utilise tunnel locos?

Stuart Thyer
 

Hi Phil

In the last day or so, hoarding has gone up along the fence revealing that the site in question is in fact part of the metro train project. The site is the 'Marrickville Dive site' and according to the project web site, will be the launch site for 2 TBMs. 
A closer look at some of the material stacked on site revealed that there are track panels constructed on steel I beams, the track running longitudinally along the I beams, which are spaced appropriately for the gauge (whatever that actually is). Presumably these are for the TBM to run along, but I have no experience in how these sort of tunnels are constructed. Hopefully this info might be of use to you, happy to keep an eye on the site as works progress.
Stuart


Re: OFF TOPIC - more photos from Germany

John Dennis
 

Hi Michael,

Thanks for these collections. I've travelled on some of the German NG railways, but not those on the Baltic Coast. I reckon the Molli has now made it to my bucket list after seeing your photos. 

John

On 24 September 2017 at 22:49, chapmanmchapman@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:
 

G'day,
 
Me again - back like a bad smell with more photos from Germany...
 
On my recent trip I also visited a further two classic narrow gauge railways.
 
Firstly there was the 750mm gauge Racing Roland (http://ruegensche-baederbahn.de/home.html) from Göhren to Lauterbach Mole which included a section of dual gauge track. I was blessed with beautiful weather and managed to get line-side for some railway photography.
 
Take a look of you're interested: 
 
 
The second railway was the Mecklenburgische Bäderbahn or 'Molli' (http://www.molli-bahn.de/); the only 900mm gauge railway in Germany. It runs from Kühlungsborn West to Bad Doderan.
 
Here in the UK over the past couple of years the Welsh Highland Railway has been big news as the trains run over Porthmadog High Street. Well, this is nothing compared to the Molli where trains run up a grade through the streets and town centre of Bad Doberan. Cars have to move over and people have to get out of the way. It was amazing!
 
Take a look if you're interested:
 
 
The below album has had some further images added from my trip to Peenemünde and the trip back by rail.
 
Cheers,
 
Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
Follow me on Twitter @mikenarrowgauge
Support the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WHHRly


 
 
In a message dated 22/09/2017 17:00:17 GMT Daylight Time, Chapmanmchapman@... writes:
Dear all,
 
Apologies for filling your inbox with what could be considered spam.
 
I've just returned from Germany (again).
 
I've uploaded a collection of images from the two foot gauge Mecklenburg Pommersche Schmalspurbahn; a really small operation based around a railway that used to carry potatoes.
 
Take a look if you are interested:
 
Cheers,
 
Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
Follow me on Twitter @mikenarrowgauge
Support the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WHHRly



Re: OFF TOPIC - more photos from Germany

Michael C.
 

G'day,
 
Me again - back like a bad smell with more photos from Germany...
 
On my recent trip I also visited a further two classic narrow gauge railways.
 
Firstly there was the 750mm gauge Racing Roland (http://ruegensche-baederbahn.de/home.html) from Göhren to Lauterbach Mole which included a section of dual gauge track. I was blessed with beautiful weather and managed to get line-side for some railway photography.
 
Take a look of you're interested: 
 
 
The second railway was the Mecklenburgische Bäderbahn or 'Molli' (http://www.molli-bahn.de/); the only 900mm gauge railway in Germany. It runs from Kühlungsborn West to Bad Doderan.
 
Here in the UK over the past couple of years the Welsh Highland Railway has been big news as the trains run over Porthmadog High Street. Well, this is nothing compared to the Molli where trains run up a grade through the streets and town centre of Bad Doberan. Cars have to move over and people have to get out of the way. It was amazing!
 
Take a look if you're interested:
 
 
The below album has had some further images added from my trip to Peenemünde and the trip back by rail.
 
Cheers,
 
Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
Follow me on Twitter @mikenarrowgauge
Support the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WHHRly


 
 

In a message dated 22/09/2017 17:00:17 GMT Daylight Time, Chapmanmchapman@... writes:
Dear all,
 
Apologies for filling your inbox with what could be considered spam.
 
I've just returned from Germany (again).
 
I've uploaded a collection of images from the two foot gauge Mecklenburg Pommersche Schmalspurbahn; a really small operation based around a railway that used to carry potatoes.
 
Take a look if you are interested:
 
Cheers,
 
Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
Follow me on Twitter @mikenarrowgauge
Support the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WHHRly


OFF TOPIC - more photos from Germany

Michael C.
 

Dear all,
 
Apologies for filling your inbox with what could be considered spam.
 
I've just returned from Germany (again).
 
I've uploaded a collection of images from the two foot gauge Mecklenburg Pommersche Schmalspurbahn; a really small operation based around a railway that used to carry potatoes.
 
Take a look if you are interested:
 
Cheers,
 
Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
Follow me on Twitter @mikenarrowgauge
Support the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WHHRly


Light Railways 257

John Dennis
 

The mail-out team did a sterling job last night, packing the magazine and no less than five inserts. The mag is now in the hands of Australia Post and (with luck) in members' letter boxes from early next week. I'm not certain when Gordon and Gotch will deliver the magazine to newsagents - that may not happen until closer to the end of the month.

The contents of this issue:

The later years of the Marrawah Tramway (Tas)

The East Greta Coal Mining Company and the European War (NSW)

Singleton Target Range light railways (NSW)

Looking back - Garratt action in the Otways (Vic)

Industrial Railway News - 23 items from around Australia and Fiji

Treasures from Trove: A Dreadful Alternative and a hairbreadth escape (Vic)

Treasures from Trove: The Timber Getters (Vic)

Letters - An interesting rail wagon

Life Memberships: Phil Rickard; Bill Hanks

JLN Southern Award report

Field Reports - Harper’s Mill, Mount Disappointment (Vic) Gauge 1067mm

Heritage &amp; Tourist News - 12 items from Australia and United Kingdom

If you are not a member and can't wait for G&G you can always buy from our online shop:

http://lightrailwayresearchsocietyofaustralia.cart.net.au/Light-Railways-No257-October-2017

or for the PDF version:

http://lightrailwayresearchsocietyofaustralia.cart.net.au/Light-Railways-No257-October-2017-pdf-download

Or better still, subscribe online at:

http://lrrsa.org.au/LRRSA_Join_Renew.html

and the current issue (and those remaining in the year) will be mailed directly to your letter box.


John Dennis
LRRSA


Richmond Vale Railway Museum

Phil Rickard
 

Posted, as received:

STATEMENT FROM THE BOARD OF RICHMOND VALE RAILWAY MUSEUM

The Board wishes to thank emergency services for their efforts in fighting the Richmond Vale fire, which has caused significant damage to the museum collection despite their work.

The museum site is now off-limits and under the control of Fire and Rescue NSW, due to the presence of hazardous materials, and will not reopen until that control is relinquished.

Museum members and members of the public are advised that security has been posted at the museum’s access road to control admission, and that police will be patrolling the area. Please stay away.

Losses include:

·         3 stainless steel passenger cars

·         10 of 16 restored non-air coal hoppers and almost all non-restored wagons

·         All of the unrestored general freight vehicles

·         Approximately 2.5 kilometres of track

·         Damage to number 1 bridge on the link line to Pelaw Main.

These losses mean that the museum’s rail operations will be suspended pending gradual track rehabilitation. An announcement about other aspects of the museum’s activities will be made as soon as access issues are resolved.

We thank the many members of the public, kindred societies, rail industry organisations and community leaders who have expressed their sympathy and support in this devastating event. The Board is developing a fundraising program which will assist the museum to restore the railway to a serviceable state. This will be shared via Facebook and media release as soon as details are finalized.

ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING

For the information of members, the Annual General Meeting of the Museum, which is scheduled for 1.00pm on Saturday 16 September has been transferred from the museum to St Paul’s Anglican Church Hall, 119 Lang Street, Kurri Kurri [opposite the Kurri Kurri Court House]


End.

-----------------------

An ABC news report and some pics of this needless destruction (it was made-made) may be seen here:


Phil Rickard



Re: : Trove Brisbane images

Phil Rickard
 

Thanks Peter,

Must be a "work in progress", so keep watching!

I checked "jetty".  Only about 5/8ths of the BCC's jetty images are on Trove so far.  i.e  Of the ones I mentioned in LR256, the tramway on the Amity Point jetty comes up in Trove, but the Green Island jetty (both of them - the Moreton Bay one and the Cairns one) neither comes up in Trove, so far.

It will be good when one doesn't have to "travel all over the countryside" to check individual sites and libraries etc - one day they will all be seen via Trove.   [but - there's always a but! - I have noticed that sometimes one still gets better results in the individual State libraries catalogues rather than via Trove.]  Must depend on exactly what details they load to Trove or what details the institutions allow Trove to access . . .

cheers

Phil Rickard


Re: : Re: : Re: : New Facebook Group: Light Railways of Australia

David Halfpenny
 

On 20 Sep 2017, at 02:32, philip.graham567@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:

David

Can you post somewhere a screenshot of your FB LRRSA basic page, please? I still have not yet "...bitten the bullet..."

Philip, the screen dump of what I see when I visit the Group is at http://tinyurl.com/y96u8f38 (and attached to this email, below).

It shows Group content menu down the left, Discussion in the middle and NO ADS down the right hand side. Yay!

Along the top, left to right are:
Search field with our Group’s name in it
My coin avatar
My first name
The button that goes to my Home page
FBP Options button
Friend request button (none outstanding)
Messages button (none outstanding)
Notifications button (one outstanding)
Help button
Down arrow to the Facebook settings menu

David




Re: Gold Coast trams

Petan
 

Not sure how they will be unloaded at Southport this time but my images of the unloading ramp they used in 2013 are on my Google Drive. Just flick through my Southport tramway images till you see the various images of the long blue ramp https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0ByB-ppGeDyvwOGE0TE9PalFoNWc

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley

 

From: Peter Cokley [mailto:yahoomail@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 September 2017 2:25 PM
To: LRRSA@...; 'qrig@...'
Subject: Gold Coast trams

 

New trams arriving  http://ridetheg.com.au/glink-greets-newest-vehicles-g/

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley


Gold Coast trams

Petan
 

New trams arriving  http://ridetheg.com.au/glink-greets-newest-vehicles-g/

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley


Re: : Re: Metro Tunnels might utilise tunnel locos?

Philip G Graham
 

Stuart

In my readings to date, the WestConnex project contractors are going for NATM tunnelling with roadheaders - nasty looking beasts with arms topped by whirling balls of very sharp teeth!

The reason is partly because the cross profile of the multi-lane roads will be to a 'Horseshoe' shape. To utilise a TBM would require one of a very large diameter similar to those previously used in Brisbane and Auckland which not do render a suitable lane layout for WestConnex. Another method could have been a smaller diameter TBM and to ream out manually (with roadheader) the remaining profile to suit. Lining is shotcrete and concrete walls/ceilings formed with moveable shutters.

As it is, TBMs will not be used there, and these NATM projects generally use pneumatic-tyred vehicles to dispose of the muck. On the other hand TBMs of rail-sized profile renders a pre-lined envelope of circular profile ideally suited to a rail loading gauge. In the servicing of these latter TBMs, it can be either way, by conrail or the dreaded MPVs - hence our (my) anxiety!

-PGG-


Re: : Re: : Re: : New Facebook Group: Light Railways of Australia

Philip G Graham
 

David

Can you post somewhere a screenshot of your FB LRRSA basic page, please? I still have not yet "...bitten the bullet..."

-PGG-


LRRSA Onine Shop

John Dennis
 

All,

The LRRSA Online Shop will be unavailable during a "minor outage" on September 25, between 9am and 1pm. It is not clear whether this outage will be for the entire four hour period, or for a just a brief time within those four hours.

John Dennis
LRRSA Sales Officer

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