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Re: Have you renewed your LRRSA subscription yet?

Bill Bolton
 

On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 05:35:10 -0000, Frank wrote:

The August "Light Railways" is due to be packed later this
week, and posted by next Monday.

If you are one of members who has not yet renewed you will not be
in the mail-out.
As soon as I arrived back in the country, I renewed my LRRSA
membership on-line on July 4th and received an emailed Tax Invoice
(102851) confirming the payment, as well as the debit appearing on my
credit card statement dated July 7th.

Today, instead of the expected August copy of Light Railways, I
received a (circular) LRRSA letter in the post saying....

"Dear Valued Member...... but I note your membership has not
been renewed."

... so I am more than a little surprised, as well as very
disappointed.

What is going?

Cheers,

Bill


Re: More Steamie Questions!

Richard McLeish
 

G'day Brad,

Fyansford #2 was moved to the Bellarine line last year. A visit at the beginning of this year found it stored under cover at Lakers, but the railway could not have been more helpful in arranging a viewing.

No idea about the Porter, sorry.

Regards,

Richard

--- In LRRSA@..., Brad Peadon PdOB <alcogoodwin@...> wrote:

Evening everyone,
 
  Have a few more steamer questions that someone may be able to help with.
 
1) APC Fyansford #2 - Is she still at Puffing Billy, or has she gone to Bellarine Peninsula?
 
2) Porter 6596 of 1920 BHP Newcastle was sold to a gravel company at Penrith. Was this Emu Gravel. Was this Emu Gravel, the same as Vulcan Ironworks 2289 of 1914?
 
Any help appreciated.
Brad
 


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More Steamie Questions!

Brad Peadon PdOB <alcogoodwin@...>
 

Evening everyone,
 
  Have a few more steamer questions that someone may be able to help with.
 
1) APC Fyansford #2 - Is she still at Puffing Billy, or has she gone to Bellarine Peninsula?
 
2) Porter 6596 of 1920 BHP Newcastle was sold to a gravel company at Penrith. Was this Emu Gravel. Was this Emu Gravel, the same as Vulcan Ironworks 2289 of 1914?
 
Any help appreciated.
Brad
 


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Re: Puffing Billy Spit Roast [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

bll_hnks
 

G'day Rod,
It's a mixed train on either the 2 or 3rd of October.
There's a flyer in the latest LR.
Regards,
Bill Hanks

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...] On Behalf Of Rod Hutchinson
Sent: Wednesday, 4 August 2010 7:51 AM
To: 'OZNG'; 'LRRSA'
Subject: [LRRSA] Puffing Billy Spit Roast [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]



Hi all,

Somebody sent a note about a trip on Puffing Billy to Gembrook and associated spit roast during October. Can someone resend or direct me to that message please?

Regards
Rod Hutchinson


Puffing Billy Spit Roast [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Rod Hutchinson <r.hutchinson@...>
 

Hi all,

Somebody sent a note about a trip on Puffing Billy to Gembrook and associated spit roast during October. Can someone resend or direct me to that message please?


Regards
Rod Hutchinson


Re: Have you renewed your LRRSA subscription yet?

jdennis@...
 

Barry,

You don't need a post office. Just a credit card and an internet connection. You can renew online at the LRRSA shop.

John

BMC <barry_campbell@...> wrote:

Hi Frank

I am sorry I have not renewed as yet but I am working at a place called
Ampilatwatja (pronounced Um bludder watch) which does not have a post
office. I will be in Alice Springs this afternoon and I will post it
then.

Regards

Barry Campbell


Re: Have you renewed your LRRSA subscription yet?

Barry Campbell
 

Hi Frank

I am sorry I have not renewed as yet but I am working at a place called Ampilatwatja (pronounced Um bludder watch) which does not have a post office. I will be in Alice Springs this afternoon and I will post it then.

Regards

Barry Campbell

----- Original Message -----
From: Frank
To: LRRSA@...
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 3:35 PM
Subject: [LRRSA] Have you renewed your LRRSA subscription yet?



The August "Light Railways" is due to be packed later this week, and posted by next Monday.

If you are one of members who has not yet renewed you will not be in the mail- out.

To ensure you get the magazine as soon as possible, and any specials we might come up with in the fiftieth anniversary year, please renew now.

Regards,

Frank


Re: A Couple Of Steamy Questions.

Chris Stratton
 

-----Original Message-----
From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...] On
Behalf Of Brad Peadon PdOB
Sent: Friday, 30 July 2010 2:34 PM
To: LRRSA; Locoshed
Subject: [LRRSA] A Couple Of Steamy Questions.

Hi everyone,
                 Just a couple of quick questions, the answers of which
may be common knowledge to all but this diesel fan :-)

1)

  BADGER of the Dorrigo museum has apparently in one reference been
mentioned to be BANTUM carring BADGER's plates.
  Can anyone confirm if this is or isn't the case?

2)

  The Australian Steam website mentions Blue Circle's #5 as, at one
stage, being in Wodonga for the failed preservation railway at
Tallangatta (Cudgewa Line), but no current status could be given.
  Does anyone know what has become of this locomotive?

Many thnks in advance.

Brad
According to Jack Southern's notes, as recorded in "Gazetteer of Industrial
Steam Locomotives Illawarra District NSW", Badger was scrapped on 8th Jan
1975 and Bantam went to the Hunter Valley Railway Museum (now DSR&M) on 14th
March 1978 with Badger name plates on it. I would believe Jack Southern over
anyone else as I met him a number of times and his knowledge of Illawarra,
and especially AI&S, locomotives was encyclopaedic.

Regards,
CS


A Couple Of Steamy Questions.

Brad Peadon PdOB <alcogoodwin@...>
 

Hi everyone,
                 Just a couple of quick questions, the answers of which may be common knowledge to all but this diesel fan :-)
 
1)
 
  BADGER of the Dorrigo museum has apparently in one reference been mentioned to be BANTUM carring BADGER's plates.
  Can anyone confirm if this is or isn't the case?
 
2)
 
  The Australian Steam website mentions Blue Circle's #5 as, at one stage, being in Wodonga for the failed preservation railway at Tallangatta (Cudgewa Line), but no current status could be given.
  Does anyone know what has become of this locomotive?
 
Many thnks in advance.
 
Brad


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Re: Railway Jeep

Kevin Crosado
 

And A&G Price used a 1067mm gauge Jeep as their works shunter for a couple of decades after WWII, replacing it with an improved Fordson Major in 1971. One of the NZGR shunting tractor files contains a 1946 reference to papers on the conversion of a Jeep on another file, but, of course, that file hasn't survived.


_______________

Kevin Crosado
De Selby Research

On 30/07/2010, at 1:26 AM, LRRSA@... wrote:

The US Army also used a rail Jeep in New Zealand during WWII - 3 ft 6 inch gauge.

Paul Napier


Re: Railway Jeep

tankienz <bandm@...>
 

The US Army also used a rail Jeep in New Zealand during WWII - 3 ft 6 inch gauge.

Paul Napier


Re: Railway Jeep

John Peterson
 

Hello Mike and others,

In view of the axle width and the close up photo of the wheel it seems more likely that the gauge is standard gauge.

Cheers
John P

--- In LRRSA@..., "The Bickfords" <womloc4@...> wrote:

John P,

The footnote at the end of the article in LR189 states 'In 1943 the United
States Army Air Force Engineers stationed in Queensland converted a jeep to
3'6" gauge to haul USAAF supplies on local tracks.'
The article in LR189 states that the Australian Army Engineers in Borneo
measured the axle width of the jeeps at 49 inches.
In order to reduce the gauge to 39 inches (1 meter), they adapted wheel rims
from captured and destroyed Japanese trucks with welded on flanges.

cheers,

Mike Bickford
Berowra & Nalya Tramway
Sydney, Australia
www.ritginc.org



----- Original Message -----
From: "Peterson, John J" <peterson.john.j@...>
To: <LRRSA@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 1:35 PM
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] Re: Railway Jeep


John may well be right here. Hard to tell the gauge from the photos. There
is a bogie wagon in one of the photos if someone could work out the type.
I suspect that the loco was built by the US army to assist in a US army
base. Where were they located? Those who know jeeps well should be able
the work out the gauge. What was the 'gauge' between the tyres on a jeep?

Cheers
John P


Re: Railway Jeep

The Bickfords <womloc4@...>
 

John P,

The footnote at the end of the article in LR189 states 'In 1943 the United States Army Air Force Engineers stationed in Queensland converted a jeep to 3'6" gauge to haul USAAF supplies on local tracks.'
The article in LR189 states that the Australian Army Engineers in Borneo measured the axle width of the jeeps at 49 inches.
In order to reduce the gauge to 39 inches (1 meter), they adapted wheel rims from captured and destroyed Japanese trucks with welded on flanges.

cheers,

Mike Bickford
Berowra & Nalya Tramway
Sydney, Australia
www.ritginc.org

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peterson, John J" <peterson.john.j@...>
To: <LRRSA@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 1:35 PM
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] Re: Railway Jeep


John may well be right here. Hard to tell the gauge from the photos. There is a bogie wagon in one of the photos if someone could work out the type. I suspect that the loco was built by the US army to assist in a US army base. Where were they located? Those who know jeeps well should be able the work out the gauge. What was the 'gauge' between the tyres on a jeep?

Cheers
John P


Have you renewed your LRRSA subscription yet?

Frank Stamford
 

The August "Light Railways" is due to be packed later this week, and posted by next Monday.

If you are one of members who has not yet renewed you will not be in the mail- out.

To ensure you get the magazine as soon as possible, and any specials we might come up with in the fiftieth anniversary year, please renew now.

Regards,

Frank


Re: Railway Jeep

John Peterson
 

John may well be right here. Hard to tell the gauge from the photos. There is a bogie wagon in one of the photos if someone could work out the type. I suspect that the loco was built by the US army to assist in a US army base. Where were they located? Those who know jeeps well should be able the work out the gauge. What was the 'gauge' between the tyres on a jeep?

Cheers
John P

________________________________

From: LRRSA@... on behalf of John Browning
Sent: Tue 27/07/2010 11:46 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: [LRRSA] Re: Railway Jeep




Sitting here in a hotel room in Cepu, central Java, Scott Jesser and I
suspect that the Queensland photos might have been taken at Clapham where
transhipment from standard gauge would have been necessary.

Can anyone confirm?

John

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Re: Railway Jeep

John Peterson
 

The Borneo ones were metre but the Qld one would have been 3'6". If you look at the wheels you can see the different arrangement to deal with the difference in gauge between the two types.

Cheers
John

________________________________

From: LRRSA@... on behalf of richard horne
Sent: Wed 28/07/2010 4:54 AM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] Railway Jeep





Metre gauge, of course, not 3'6".

See also AWM images 110681 110682 110684 113582 111835 (on passenger train) 111845 (steam loco in b'ground) 111855 121629 121636 121370 122633 (derailed, hanging vertically off side of bridge) 124960 124961 144962

These include set-piece side, front and rear views and many of jeeps hauling freight trains etc.

Easier, perhaps, to access these by looking at 'Picture Australia' and typing in 'railways jeep north borneo'. There are only two 'pages' to look through.

Richard Horne

--- On Tue, 27/7/10, Peterson, John J <peterson.john.j@... <mailto:peterson.john.j%40EDUMAIL.VIC.GOV.AU> > wrote:

From: Peterson, John J <peterson.john.j@... <mailto:peterson.john.j%40EDUMAIL.VIC.GOV.AU> >
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] Railway Jeep
To: LRRSA@... <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>
Date: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 9:42



Hello John and others

The negative numbers at the Australian War Memorial site are:

015477; 015478, 015479

The caption says that they were adapted by the American air force engineers and shows it with US forces people. The photo shows the jeep with a trailer all with the cast wheels which there is a detail shot of the wheel in one photo. The track looks 3'6".

Hope this helps.

Cheers

John P

________________________________

From: LRRSA@... <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au> on behalf of John Dennis

Sent: Tue 27/07/2010 5:58 PM

To: LRRSA@... <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>

Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Railway Jeep

Hi JohnP,

I've tried a number of combinations of search terms, and although I

can find images of the Borneo jeeps, I can't find anything from

Queensland. Can you suggest any search items, or better yet, supply

some image references?

Thanks,

JohnD

On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:55:05 +1000, "Peterson, John J"

<peterson.john.j@... <mailto:peterson.john.j%40EDUMAIL.VIC.GOV.AU> <mailto:peterson.john.j%40EDUMAIL.VIC.GOV.AU> > wrote:

There are a few photos of a converted jeep used in Qld by the US army in the AWM collection. It has cast wheels ie ones specially made for it unlike the Borneo ones which used converted Japanese truck hubs. The Qld one was photoed earlier than the Borneo conversions so unclear if they were the inspiration or just parallel thinking.
There are lots of photos on the AWM website.
Cheers
John P
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Re: Vintage Army munitions rail carts

Hunslet
 

There was what was commonly referred to as "2-ft" gauge at the St. Marys Munitions site linking into the various underground bunkers, separate to the main line standard gauge link from Dunheved.

By the time I got there (on an RTM tour using the standard gauge 2-ft model with underframe extended DH-I diesel, bogie flat with small crane and "borrowed" NSWR brake van), the narrow gauge had also been lifted.

I also recollect that the Army advertised for disposal in the 1960s/70s, a whole lot of "2-ft gauge" locomotives from St. Marys and other munitions sites, some still in the original crates. I have no details as to where they went, but I was led to believe that some were obtained by Bullens (?) of circus fame for possible use on a tourist attraction.

Hunslet.


Re: Mixed Train & Mugs

David Axup
 

G'day All,



Hope I am not breaching group rules here. If I have it is unwittingly so
and trust the moderator will put me straight.



For those who are interested the Climax Restoration Group from Puffing Billy
have two great offers on at the moment.



1 High quality ceramic mugs with pictures of either 861, the Peckett or
Carbon. Enquiries to climaxloco1694@...



2. A mixed train from Belgrave to Gembrook and return on 3rd October and
includes a spit lunch. Cost is $65.00 per person. Enquiries to
frank.stamford@... or jfgconway@....



I have no financial interest in the products or the outing but wanted to
give a "heads up" to all who might be interested.



Cheers,



David R Axup





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Re: Railway Jeep

rthorne475
 

Metre gauge, of course, not 3'6".

See also AWM images 110681 110682 110684 113582 111835 (on passenger train) 111845 (steam loco in b'ground) 111855 121629 121636 121370 122633 (derailed, hanging vertically off side of bridge) 124960 124961 144962

These include set-piece side, front and rear views and many of jeeps hauling freight trains etc.

Easier, perhaps, to access these by looking at 'Picture Australia' and typing in 'railways jeep north borneo'.  There are only two 'pages' to look through.

Richard Horne

--- On Tue, 27/7/10, Peterson, John J <peterson.john.j@...> wrote:

From: Peterson, John J <peterson.john.j@...>
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] Railway Jeep
To: LRRSA@...
Date: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 9:42







 









Hello John and others



The negative numbers at the Australian War Memorial site are:



015477; 015478, 015479



The caption says that they were adapted by the American air force engineers and shows it with US forces people. The photo shows the jeep with a trailer all with the cast wheels which there is a detail shot of the wheel in one photo. The track looks 3'6".



Hope this helps.



Cheers

John P



________________________________



From: LRRSA@... on behalf of John Dennis

Sent: Tue 27/07/2010 5:58 PM

To: LRRSA@...

Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Railway Jeep



Hi JohnP,



I've tried a number of combinations of search terms, and although I

can find images of the Borneo jeeps, I can't find anything from

Queensland. Can you suggest any search items, or better yet, supply

some image references?



Thanks,

JohnD



On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:55:05 +1000, "Peterson, John J"

<peterson.john.j@... <mailto:peterson.john.j%40EDUMAIL.VIC.GOV.AU> > wrote:



There are a few photos of a converted jeep used in Qld by the US army in the AWM collection. It has cast wheels ie ones specially made for it unlike the Borneo ones which used converted Japanese truck hubs. The Qld one was photoed earlier than the Borneo conversions so unclear if they were the inspiration or just parallel thinking.
There are lots of photos on the AWM website.
Cheers
John P
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Re: Railway Jeep

John Browning
 

Sitting here in a hotel room in Cepu, central Java, Scott Jesser and I
suspect that the Queensland photos might have been taken at Clapham where
transhipment from standard gauge would have been necessary.



Can anyone confirm?



John






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