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Re: meeting in Melbourne

Frank Stamford
 

Yes.

Lindsay Walker will be giving a talk on Victorian 2ft 6in gauge railways, including Walhalla just after closure, Beech Forest, Puffing Billy "Young Sun" specials, and the Altona Explosives Reserve tramways.

At the usual place, Thursday 12 August, and preceded by the AGM.

Regards,

Frank

On 10/08/2010, at 3:46, "Peterson, John J" <peterson.john.j@...> wrote:

I haven't received Light Railways yet. Is there a Melbourne meeting this Thursday?

Cheers
John P

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Re: meeting in Melbourne

John Dennis <jdennis@...>
 

Yes, although the August Light Railways claims the next meeting is 10
June... The agenda is AGM followed by Lindsay Walker talking on VR
2'6" gauge railways.

John D

On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:46:56 +1000, "Peterson, John J"
<peterson.john.j@...> wrote:

I haven't received Light Railways yet. Is there a Melbourne meeting this Thursday?

Cheers
John P
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Re: meeting in Melbourne

John Peterson
 

I haven't received Light Railways yet. Is there a Melbourne meeting this Thursday?

Cheers
John P

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Presentation on 'Australia's First Railway'

BM
 

I attended Rod Caldwell's presentation to the Heritage Group of the Australian Institute of Engineers at Chatswood last night. The presentation 'blew the minds' of many in the audience in terms of how Rod and his colleagues at Newcastle have been able to start with a few sketchy bit of information - knowledge that the AA Company had a short railway line in operation by December 1831, two artists impression of the 'A' Pit and line, and a rusty bit of iron discovered at a house construction site by David Campbell (LR 195) - and build this into a remarkable story about the origins of Australia's coal mining industry and the importance of this 'bit of iron' as a significant surviving elements of the early colliery railways in England.

Light Railways featured strongly in the presentation, both for its role in promoting the find of the c1825 iron fish-belly (or 'edge') rail and in providing the links to UK rail researchers who have played a role in confirming that the item was indeed a rare (and advanced type for the period) type of fish-belly rail that was most likely made in a Newcastle-on-Tyne foundry (see LR 197, p. 25). Since our last LR report the story has been further enhanced, particularly through research of the AA Company archives and the Noel Butlin Archives Centre at the Australian National University. I plan to provide an update on this in the October issue of LR, subject to some checking of details with Rod.

Rod Caldwell will be giving a similar presentation to the Sydney meeting of the ARHS in 1 September.

Bob McKillop
Heritage & Research Editor, Light Railways


Re: Scribble maps

John M.
 

John,
if you pop up the Menu window, you will see Home Screen button. On the Home page there is a "Go Pro" button which takes you to a registration and login page.

John M.

--- In LRRSA@..., John Dennis <jdennis@...> wrote:

I found it easily enough with google - http://www.scribblemaps.com/ -
but couldn't work out to get the distances along my line. Perhaps I
should have read the help...

John

On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 16:17:08 +1000, "Scott Clennett"
<scottclennett@...> wrote:

Sounds pretty good, but what is the address/link?
Scott Clennett

-----Original Message-----
From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...] On
Behalf Of Stuart Thyer
Sent: Monday, 9 August 2010 9:18 AM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: [LRRSA] Scribble maps


I was recently sent a link to a mapping website which, using googlemaps
as the basemap, allows you to draw over a map. You can scribble
freehand, use a variety of other shape and drawing tools, add markers or
even link to photos, You can also measure between points on the map,
either in a straight line or by using the freehand drawing tool.
==========================================================
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and the Australian Narrow Gauge Web-Exhibition Gallery
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Re: Scribble maps

John Dennis <jdennis@...>
 

I found it easily enough with google - http://www.scribblemaps.com/ -
but couldn't work out to get the distances along my line. Perhaps I
should have read the help...

John

On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 16:17:08 +1000, "Scott Clennett"
<scottclennett@...> wrote:

Sounds pretty good, but what is the address/link?
Scott Clennett

-----Original Message-----
From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...] On
Behalf Of Stuart Thyer
Sent: Monday, 9 August 2010 9:18 AM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: [LRRSA] Scribble maps


I was recently sent a link to a mapping website which, using googlemaps
as the basemap, allows you to draw over a map. You can scribble
freehand, use a variety of other shape and drawing tools, add markers or
even link to photos, You can also measure between points on the map,
either in a straight line or by using the freehand drawing tool.
==========================================================
John Dennis jdennis@...
Melbourne,Australia Home of the HOn30 Dutton Bay Tramway
and the Australian Narrow Gauge Web-Exhibition Gallery
Dutton Bay URL: http://members.optusnet.com.au/duttonbay
WebX http://members.optusnet.com.au/jdennis/ng_webex.html


Re: Scribble maps

Scott Clennett
 

Sounds pretty good, but what is the address/link?
Scott Clennett

-----Original Message-----
From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...] On
Behalf Of Stuart Thyer
Sent: Monday, 9 August 2010 9:18 AM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: [LRRSA] Scribble maps


I was recently sent a link to a mapping website which, using googlemaps
as the basemap, allows you to draw over a map. You can scribble
freehand, use a variety of other shape and drawing tools, add markers or
even link to photos, You can also measure between points on the map,
either in a straight line or by using the freehand drawing tool. You can
also measure areas, it will give a result in square meters.
Unfortunately it does not seem to be able to measure in a line using a
polygon drawing tool, which makes measuring a rail line a slightly messy
affair. I measured the Alexandra Timber Tramway ay 383m, but allowing
for my slightly wobbly line, it is probably a few meters less.

You can save your results and send to friends and colleagues. Upgrading
to the pro version is required to access the measuring tools and is
free, for now. While not the most advanced tool in the armour of a
railway archaeologist, I'm sure it will be useful for quite a few tasks.

One feature I found intruiging is Open Street Map. There are a number of
base maps that can be used to draw from and when flicking through them,
I noticed that Open Street Map is curiously accurate for rail lines. At
Alexandra, it shows the rail line, including all lines into the shed,
the new triangle and intriguingly (but possibly inaccurately), it shows
the extension track heading into the adjacent timber yard. Closer to
home (for me) it shows the additional sidings currently being
constructed at Newport workshops, accurately. The sidings have been
built, but not yet connected to the main line, that's how they're drawn.
It even shows the entire layout for the Altona Miniature Railway. Open
Street Map appears to be an open source map that anyone can assist with
editing.

Stuart Thyer





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Scribble maps

Stuart Thyer <s.thyer@...>
 

I was recently sent a link to a mapping website which, using googlemaps
as the basemap, allows you to draw over a map. You can scribble
freehand, use a variety of other shape and drawing tools, add markers or
even link to photos, You can also measure between points on the map,
either in a straight line or by using the freehand drawing tool. You can
also measure areas, it will give a result in square meters.
Unfortunately it does not seem to be able to measure in a line using a
polygon drawing tool, which makes measuring a rail line a slightly messy
affair. I measured the Alexandra Timber Tramway ay 383m, but allowing
for my slightly wobbly line, it is probably a few meters less.

You can save your results and send to friends and colleagues. Upgrading
to the pro version is required to access the measuring tools and is
free, for now. While not the most advanced tool in the armour of a
railway archaeologist, I'm sure it will be useful for quite a few tasks.

One feature I found intruiging is Open Street Map. There are a number of
base maps that can be used to draw from and when flicking through them,
I noticed that Open Street Map is curiously accurate for rail lines. At
Alexandra, it shows the rail line, including all lines into the shed,
the new triangle and intriguingly (but possibly inaccurately), it shows
the extension track heading into the adjacent timber yard. Closer to
home (for me) it shows the additional sidings currently being
constructed at Newport workshops, accurately. The sidings have been
built, but not yet connected to the main line, that's how they're drawn.
It even shows the entire layout for the Altona Miniature Railway. Open
Street Map appears to be an open source map that anyone can assist with
editing.

Stuart Thyer


Bunnerong Power Station

Brad Peadon PdOB <alcogoodwin@...>
 

Hi all,
        Recently noticed that they have cleared out, and ripped up, the trackwork and points where the Bunnerong line branched of from that going up to the Boral sidings (notable as the steepest grade in NSW).
  Not sure why the sudden clearing, but there is a number of trackwork items laying scattered around the area.
 
Brad
 


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Re: Another misplaced membership renewal payement

chy_gwel_an_meneth <chy_gwel_an_meneth@...>
 

Evening all,

Further to Frank's message - yes, we have stuffed up.

We have just completed an urgent manual check, comparing the Online renewals with the members'/mailing list. Fifteen members were identified as having renewed but as not receiving LR214 (and hence the reminder letter).

Records are being amended and LR214 is being despatched this weekend to all those who are waiting. LR 214 is a great issue with lots of varied articles and is a credit to the editors and authors concerned.

Please accept our apologies for our error and the inconvenience caused and thank you to the various members for bringing the matter to our attention.

kind regards

Phil Rickard
Hon Secretary, LRRSA Inc.


Re: Another misplaced membership renewal payement

Frank Stamford
 

Thanks David.

Our Hon. Treasurer and Hon. Secretary have been beavering away on this problem, and I think they have now identified all those renewals that were affected.

How many were involved and why it happened I don't yet know, but we will have to try create procedures which will prevent it in the future.

Unfortunately our renewal procedures have become quite administratively complicated, in an effort to give members the greatest possible choice of renewal options.

Regards,

Frank

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From: "Frank Stamford" <frank.stamford@...>
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 5:35 AM
To: <LRRSA@...>
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Another misplaced membership renewal payement

Hello Jeff,

It would seem that one-week's batch of notifications of email renewals
has gone astray, it may have contained about a dozen renewals. I cannot
confirm that until I get back to Oz next Thursday.
Frank,

To help you count, rather than bother you, I too have had a Membership
Renewal Reminder.

I renewed on 3 July, have an email receipt, and have received the books I
ordered at the same time.

David Halfpenny
England


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Re: Another misplaced membership renewal payement

David Halfpenny \(t\) <tuppenced@...>
 

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From: "Frank Stamford" <frank.stamford@...>
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 5:35 AM
To: <LRRSA@...>
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Another misplaced membership renewal payement

Hello Jeff,

It would seem that one-week's batch of notifications of email renewals
has gone astray, it may have contained about a dozen renewals. I cannot
confirm that until I get back to Oz next Thursday.
Frank,

To help you count, rather than bother you, I too have had a Membership
Renewal Reminder.

I renewed on 3 July, have an email receipt, and have received the books I ordered at the same time.

David Halfpenny
England


LRRSA Brisbane Meeting, 13/8/2010, 19:30

LRRSA@...
 

Reminder from:   LRRSA Yahoo!7 Group
 
Title:   LRRSA Brisbane Meeting
 
Date:   Friday 13 August 2010
Time:   19:30 - 22:30
Repeats:   This event repeats every other month on the second Friday.
Location:   BCC Library, Garden City, Shopping Centre, Mount Gravatt
Notes:   After hours entrance (rear of library) opposite Mega Theatre complex, next to Toys 'R' Us.
 
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Re: Another misplaced membership renewal payement

Frank Stamford
 

Hello Jeff,

It would seem that one-week's batch of notifications of email renewals has gone astray, it may have contained about a dozen renewals. I cannot confirm that until I get back to Oz next Thursday.

However I think your missing "Light Railways" should be in the mail to you before then.

Regards,

Frank

On 05/08/2010, at 9:34, "Jeff Mullier" <jmullier@...> wrote:

I have just received a reminder notice in the mail for my membership despite having paid it online on the 2/7 (invoice #102848)

Regards
Jeff Mullier




Another misplaced membership renewal payement

Jeff Mullier
 

I have just received a reminder notice in the mail for my membership despite having paid it online on the 2/7 (invoice #102848)

Regards
Jeff Mullier


Thank You Re: [] More Steamie Questions!

Brad Peadon PdOB <alcogoodwin@...>
 

__._,_.__
Thank you to everyone for your very helpful replies.
I think there may be a few other questions in the future, so I beg of everyones patience.
Regards
Brad
 
 


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Re: More Steamie Questions!

bll_hnks
 

APC Fyansford #2 is now at the Bellarine Peninsula Railway.
Bill Hanks

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...] On Behalf Of Brad Peadon PdOB
Sent: Wednesday, 4 August 2010 5:46 PM
To: Locoshed; LRRSA
Subject: [LRRSA] More Steamie Questions!



Evening everyone,

Have a few more steamer questions that someone may be able to help with.

1) APC Fyansford #2 - Is she still at Puffing Billy, or has she gone to Bellarine Peninsula?

2) Porter 6596 of 1920 BHP Newcastle was sold to a gravel company at Penrith. Was this Emu Gravel. Was this Emu Gravel, the same as Vulcan Ironworks 2289 of 1914?

Any help appreciated.
Brad


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Re: Going north ...

Frank Stamford
 

I mentioned below that I was going north to sacred sites of 3ft 6in significance.

This mainly referred to the Hamar Railwy Museum and library in Norway.

Today I completed two highly successful days there. My blog, referred to below has details.

Regards,

Frank

--- In LRRSA@..., "Frank" <frank.stamford@...> wrote:

I am heading off north tomorrow on a pilgrimage to sacred sites of 3ft 6in gauge significance. I will be back on 12 August.

As a result there will be delays, possibly up to three weeks, in handling orders placed via the Online Shop.

I have followed John Browning's lead and set up a blog of the trip, which can be found here:

http://powellite.blogspot.com/

Provided that the new-fangled technology works I will keep it up to date. However it will be mostly text, and any photographs taken on the trip will come from a phone camera. The reason is that I am using an iPad to write the blog, and the simple device to connect the iPad to a digital camera has a six week delivery delay on it!

By the way, the August "Light Railways" is running to time. I have seen a pdf copy of what went to the printer. It is a very good issue, with great graphics, and a very lively and interesting letters section!

Regards,

Frank


Re: Have you renewed your LRRSA subscription yet?

Frank Stamford
 

Hello Bill,

Don't know what went wrong, and cannot find out until I get back to Oz on 10 August.

However I have alerted the appropriate people, and you should be recorded as paid-up shortly.

The problem is we have renewals coming from several sources, and processing them is fairly complex, requiring different forms of human intervention depending on their source. So far we have been unable to find a suitable computer system at an acceptable cost to handle all the different possibilities.

Regards,

Frank

--- In LRRSA@..., Bill Bolton <billbolton.email@...> wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 05:35:10 -0000, Frank wrote:

The August "Light Railways" is due to be packed later this
week, and posted by next Monday.

If you are one of members who has not yet renewed you will not be
in the mail-out.
As soon as I arrived back in the country, I renewed my LRRSA
membership on-line on July 4th and received an emailed Tax Invoice
(102851) confirming the payment, as well as the debit appearing on my
credit card statement dated July 7th.

Today, instead of the expected August copy of Light Railways, I
received a (circular) LRRSA letter in the post saying....

"Dear Valued Member...... but I note your membership has not
been renewed."

... so I am more than a little surprised, as well as very
disappointed.

What is going?

Cheers,

Bill


Re: More Steamie Questions!

rthorne475
 

Brad,

H K Porter 6596 was BHP 16 and sold to Emu Sand & Gravel Co., Emu Plains, in 1962.  Presv. 1967 by NSWRTM.  Similarly, H K Porter 6415 of 1918, BHP 12, also went to Emu Plains.

Vulcan 2289 of 1912 was No.I at Emu Sand & Gravel, Emu Plains, having come there in 1924 from the same company's Prospect Quarry.  It had gone there in 1921 from the MSW&DB's Potts Hill Reservoir construction.  Presv. by NSWRTM.  Vulcan 2290, No.2 at Emu Plains, had an identical history, except it was latterly a wheel-less wreck and was scrapped.

The fifth loco at Emu Plains was ex NSWGR 2514, Beyer, Peacock 2086 of 1881, a 2-6-0oc.  Purchased in 1937 per Abraham & Wilson, machinery merchants, it was scrapped by 1965.

Richard Horne

--- On Wed, 4/8/10, Brad Peadon PdOB <alcogoodwin@...> wrote:

From: Brad Peadon PdOB <alcogoodwin@...>
Subject: [LRRSA] More Steamie Questions!
To: "Locoshed" <LocoShed@...>, "LRRSA" <LRRSA@...>
Date: Wednesday, 4 August, 2010, 8:45







 









Evening everyone,

 

  Have a few more steamer questions that someone may be able to help with.

 

1) APC Fyansford #2 - Is she still at Puffing Billy, or has she gone to Bellarine Peninsula?

 

2) Porter 6596 of 1920 BHP Newcastle was sold to a gravel company at Penrith. Was this Emu Gravel. Was this Emu Gravel, the same as Vulcan Ironworks 2289 of 1914?

 

Any help appreciated.

Brad

 



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