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Re: Tullah
John Dennis <jdennis@...>
Hi Bill,
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Issue #33 of LR contains a single paragraph about the Tullah Tramway, an announcement that they were hoping to restore Wee Georgie Wood. There are a few other references to the Tullah Tram in Light Railways, most recently in issue 215 (October 2010) where there is a delightful article. No track plans though - I don't believe I have ever seen any track plans. I don't know what you already have about the tramway, but I wrote a small column in Narrow Gauge Downunder recently, which has been made available from a tasmanian website: http://www.westernwilderness.com.au/clients/westcoast/downloads/Farrell%20Tramway%20-%20finalised%20proofs%202.pdf I think I have some photos in my collection showing the mine area. I will dig around and see what I can find which might help you. John
On 18 January 2011 12:55, Bill Fornshell <bfornshell@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Re: Tullah
John Dennis <jdennis@...>
Hi Bill,
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Issue #33 of LR contains a single paragraph about the Tullah Tramway, an announcement that they were hoping to restore Wee Georgie Wood. There are a few other references to the Tullah Tram in Light Railways, most recently in issue 215 (October 2010) where there is a delightful article. No track plans though - I don't believe I have ever seen any track plans. I don't know what you already have about the tramway, but I wrote a small column in Narrow Gauge Downunder recently, which has been made available from a tasmanian website: http://www.westernwilderness.com.au/clients/westcoast/downloads/Farrell%20Tramway%20-%20finalised%20proofs%202.pdf I think I have some photos in my collection showing the mine area. I will dig around and see what I can find which might help you. John
On 18 January 2011 12:55, Bill Fornshell <bfornshell@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Re: Tullah
Frank Stamford
Hello Bill,
I have just checked LR33. The only reference to Tullah that is in it is this news item: Tullah Tramway (2-ft. gauge) The Electrolytic Zinc Company has decided that the 0-4-0WT Fowler locomotive, "Wee Georgie Wood" will be restored and put on display at Tullah. The engine's working life was ended in 1962 by the completion of the Murchison Highway, connecting Queenstown and Burnie. For a few more years it hauled ore trucks half a mile from the Mount Farrell mines to the flotation plant at Tullah. Since the EZ takeover of the Mount Farrell Mining Company in 1964 the locomotive has worked only once, to give joy rides to company officials and their families over the remaining half mile of track. Although the EZ Co. has made a firm decision to preserve the locomotive, the exact method of display has not yet been decided. (Saturday Evening Mercury, 26th. Sept. 1970) Unfortunately there are no photographs, track layouts, or other illustrations. Regards, Frank On 18/01/2011 12:55 PM, Bill Fornshell wrote:
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Re: Tullah
Bill Fornshell <bfornshell@...>
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I am Bill a new member. I live in San Antonio, Texas - USA. I am looking for information about the Tullah Mining Area in Tasmania. First, I would like to thank those who replied to my request to Lynn. I discovered this yahoo group from a CC reference on one of the emails to me. I found the group, requested membership and was approved. After I was approved I looked over the group site and did a message search for Tullah. I found three messages. One message (#818) had a reference to issue #33 of "Light Rails" now available as a PDF file. I looked up LRRSA and found the issue #33 for sale. I was /will buy it but I am not sure how to pay the $2.00 or so for the download. I sent them an email asking for about that. This brings me to a question. Does anyone have issue #33 of Light Rail that they could look at and let me know what is in the article. I am hoping for some type of track plan for the area around the Mine and maybe a few pictures of the Mine Buildings. It was also suggested I email Weston of "westonlangford.com" and see if he made a track plan when he took the pictures of the Tullah Mine Area that I found on his web site. I sent him an email early this afternoon - Texas Time. Thanks. Bill in Texas
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From: Bill Hanks <BHanks@railsignallingservices.com.au> Subject: RE: [LRRSA] Tullah To: "LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au" <LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au>, "bfornshell@yahoo.com" <bfornshell@yahoo.com> Cc: "'A C Lynn Zelmer'" <lynn@zelmeroz.com> Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 4:04 PM Try sending Weston an email asking if he sketched the track arrangements.He sketched many Victorian stations and they have been published. Bill Hanks. From: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au [mailto:LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au] On Behalf Of John Browning Sent: Tuesday, 18 January 2011 7:22 AM To: bfornshell@yahoo.com Cc: 'A C Lynn Zelmer'; LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au Subject: [LRRSA] Tullah Hello Bill I'm not sure if you've seen these yet, but some really interesting photos to help you can be found if you go to http://westonlangford.com/search/ and search for Tullah. There seem to be some wonderful modelling possibilities shown. I'm afraid I don't have a track plan but maybe someone else on here may have or may know where to find one. John logo John Browning PO Box 99 Annerley 4103 Queensland Australia Phone +61 (0)7 3255 9084 Mobile 0407 069 199
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Re: Tullah
bll_hnks
Try sending Weston an email asking if he sketched the track arrangements.
He sketched many Victorian stations and they have been published. Bill Hanks. From: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au [mailto:LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au] On Behalf Of John Browning Sent: Tuesday, 18 January 2011 7:22 AM To: bfornshell@yahoo.com Cc: 'A C Lynn Zelmer'; LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au Subject: [LRRSA] Tullah Hello Bill I'm not sure if you've seen these yet, but some really interesting photos to help you can be found if you go to http://westonlangford.com/search/ and search for Tullah. There seem to be some wonderful modelling possibilities shown. I'm afraid I don't have a track plan but maybe someone else on here may have or may know where to find one. John logo John Browning PO Box 99 Annerley 4103 Queensland Australia Phone +61 (0)7 3255 9084 Mobile 0407 069 199
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Tullah
Hello Bill
I'm not sure if you've seen these yet, but some really interesting photos to help you can be found if you go to http://westonlangford.com/search/ and search for Tullah. There seem to be some wonderful modelling possibilities shown. I'm afraid I don't have a track plan but maybe someone else on here may have or may know where to find one. John logo John Browning PO Box 99 Annerley 4103 Queensland Australia Phone +61 (0)7 3255 9084 Mobile 0407 069 199
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UK: Rhyl Miniature Railway Centenary
Bill Bolton
Seen on the Train Collector's Society group today....
**** To: TrainColSoc@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [TrainColSoc]Bassett-Lowke "Father of Model and Miniature Railways." From: locks.siding@btinternet.com Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:40:55 +0000 This weekend an important event took place with the first steaming for many years at the Rhyl Miniature Railway of the Barnes of Rhyl built 4-4-2 "Michael." This newly reboilered loco along with its five sisters was designed by Henry Greenly chief engineer to Bassett- Lowke. It was the final development of B-L/Greenly's long line of "Atlantics" which started with the "Little Giant" series. This year Saturday-Monday May 28th-30th there is to be a Grand Gala at the Rhyl Miniature Railway to celebrate the line's centenary. Bassett-Lowke was the builder of this railway now the oldest 15" gauge public railway in the UK. Greenly was the engineer. In the care of the RMR trustees are three of the 1920s "Atlantic" locos, two "Joan" and Michael" built by Barnes for the line and, the third "Railway Queen" built initially for another customer. On permanent loan to the railway, but not in running condition, is "Billy" one of the locos built for the RMR but now owned by the local authority. It is hoped that at the Gala the other two Barnes locos (the firm only built six) "John" and "Billie" now in private hands will join them. "John" once ran at Rhyl. "Billie" was built by Barnes for another client. " Michael" will share the services with "Joan," who has borne the brunt of the traffic in recent years, on the RMR trains at Easter when the railway opens for the 2011 season.. The RMR Museum, housed at the railway's Central Station by the Marine Lake, recently achieved accredited museum status. Here one can see "Billy" plus a collection of early Bassett-Lowke models and much else. "Railway Queen" quietly awaits restoration. WJ Bassett- Lowke and Henry Greenly would be proud to see that their handiwork has survived for 100 years. Alan Cliff *****
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Tullah Mining Area, Tasmania
A C Lynn Zelmer
G'day all and apologies for the cross-posting
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I've replied to the query below with the address of the Wee Georgie Wood Steam Railway and the LRRSA site but thought that members of these two groups might have additional information to assist an overseas modeller. Thanks and best wishes, Lynn
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:47:22 -0800 (PST)
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Re: 50 years of LRRSA - Sat.4.10.69 SRWSC Tatura & Waranga
I have added four more to my Roderick Smith album in the group's photos section.
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17: Phil Rickard, ?, Barry Stewart 23: ? 26: Richard Dempster works a pair of points in the quarry 34: John Prideaux inspects the foundation of something Hence 13 must have been Ian Stanley Matching clothing hints that 15 was Barry Stewart Roderick B Smith Rail News Victoria Editor
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Re: Underground Railroad: 1942
bll_hnks
G’day Richard,
Thanks for that clarification. It looks a bit different to the actual patent which I think only had two cylinders. I note that the particular locomotive in the photo does not have full length frames as the front bogie is hung off the smokebox, which would have placed the pulling forces on the boiler itself. Regards, Bill. From: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au [mailto:LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au] On Behalf Of richard horne Sent: Saturday, 15 January 2011 3:09 AM To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au Subject: RE: [LRRSA] Underground Railroad: 1942 Bill, Ephraim Shay's three locos on the Hemlock Central RR were all different and dstinctively so...and this one is definitely No.1. Cheers, Richard --- On Thu, 13/1/11, Bill Hanks <bhanks@railsignallingservices.com.au<mailto:bhanks%40railsignallingservices.com.au>> wrote: From: Bill Hanks <bhanks@railsignallingservices.com.au<mailto:bhanks%40railsignallingservices.com.au>> Subject: RE: [LRRSA] Underground Railroad: 1942 To: "LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au<mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>" <LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au<mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>> Date: Thursday, 13 January, 2011, 22:21 A friend in the USA tells me that this was Ephraim Shay's second locomotive. Bill Hanks From: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au<mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au> [mailto:LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au<mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>] On Behalf Of Brian Rumary Sent: Friday, 14 January 2011 6:19 AM To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au<mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au> Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Underground Railroad: 1942 Tom D wrote: What a fascinating site. Here is another interesting photo. http://www.shorpy.com/node/7786?size=_originalThis is one of the locos that Ephraim Shay built himself, rather than those built by Lima to Shay's patent. Brian Rumary, England www.rumary.co.uk
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(No subject)
Marie and David Lowe
A few photos of the bridge on a pleasant walk in June 2008 added to my Coopers
Creek folder. Includes commemorative plaque on original redecking. cheers David
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Re: 50 years of LRRSA - Sat.4.10.69 SRWSC Tatura & Waranga
I have added four more photos, to my Roderick Smith album in the group's photos section.
8: ?, ?, ? 12: prob David Hennell lhs and prob Richard Dempster rhs 13: prob Steve Martin closes lhs; possibly Ian Stanley second from right, but possibly David Francis. 15: ? Regards, Roderick B Smith Rail News Victoria Editor
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Re: Underground Railroad: 1942
rthorne475
Bill,
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Ephraim Shay's three locos on the Hemlock Central RR were all different and dstinctively so...and this one is definitely No.1. Cheers, Richard
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From: Bill Hanks <bhanks@railsignallingservices.com.au> Subject: RE: [LRRSA] Underground Railroad: 1942 To: "LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au" <LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au> Date: Thursday, 13 January, 2011, 22:21 A friend in the USA tells me that this was Ephraim Shay's second locomotive. Bill Hanks From: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au [mailto:LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au] On Behalf Of Brian Rumary Sent: Friday, 14 January 2011 6:19 AM To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Underground Railroad: 1942 Tom D wrote: What a fascinating site. Here is another interesting photo. http://www.shorpy.com/node/7786?size=_original This is one of the locos that Ephraim Shay built himself, rather than those built by Lima to Shay's patent. Brian Rumary, England www.rumary.co.uk [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: tomato/strawberry railway at Port Macquarie?
Chris Stratton
Chris Stratton <gm4201@optusnet.com.au> wrote:That should be "no" railways, not "now", sorry.eoliverau <eoliver@iprimus.com.au> wrote:a Regards, Chris
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Re: tomato/strawberry railway at Port Macquarie?
Chris Stratton
eoliverau <eoliver@iprimus.com.au> wrote:I've now been to Ricardoes twice to pick strawberries (they are really nice). There are now railways in the strawberry building, all picking is done by hand as they grow an A-frames about 2 metres high. The public can pick strawberries but not tomatoes. I didn't go into the tomato building but you can see in through large windows from the cafe. The tomato vines hang from the roof and grow to over 3 metres high. Between each row of plants is a type of railway. The rail is made of steel pipe around 40mm diameter, at each end of the rows the concrete floor is higher and the pipe rests on the concrete, between the plants the floor is lower and the pipe is supported on legs which are welded to flat plates which act as sleepers. at the ends the pipes are bent and welded together so it makes the shape of a very narrow and long rectangle. I would estimate the distance between the pipes to be 450mm to 600mm. I saw two types of rolling stock: 1. a small flat tolley which is pushed by hand and used to carry containers when picking from the lower part of the vines. 2. a trolley with a scissor lift mounted on it and used to pick from higher up. This one is self propelled by chain drive from a small electric motor similar to a large wiper motor or wheelchair motor. It is powered by a couple of truck batteries carried on the trolley. I didn't see any pumps to power the ram used to raise and lower the platform, maybe a fixed pump somewhere sets it to the height required. The trolleys are moved along the rows by a hand pallet trolley which places the trolley onto the concrete, the trolley is then driven or pushed onto the pipe rails. Almost forgot the wheels. They are fairly small, approx 150mm diameter with a flat tread about 75mm wide and a flange on the outer edge so the flanges run along the outer edges of the pipe rails. I hope this info is what you were after, I'll upload some photos when I return home, it would take too long on the mobile broadband I'm using. Regards, Chris
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Re: Underground Railroad: 1942
bll_hnks
A friend in the USA tells me that this was Ephraim Shay's second locomotive.
Bill Hanks From: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au [mailto:LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au] On Behalf Of Brian Rumary Sent: Friday, 14 January 2011 6:19 AM To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Underground Railroad: 1942 Tom D wrote: What a fascinating site. Here is another interesting photo.This is one of the locos that Ephraim Shay built himself, rather than those built by Lima to Shay's patent. Brian Rumary, England www.rumary.co.uk
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Re: Underground Railroad: 1942
B.Rumary
Tom D wrote:
What a fascinating site. Here is another interesting photo.This is one of the locos that Ephraim Shay built himself, rather than those built by Lima to Shay's patent. Brian Rumary, England www.rumary.co.uk
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Re: Underground Railroad: 1942
rthorne475
This 9 ton loco was #1 'Baby' of the Hemlock Central RR, Ephraim Shay's own 2' 6" gauge line at Harbor Springs, Michigan, serving his private water works and logging operations. #1 was built after 1894, the earliest photo of it being in 1897, at which time it had a domeless boiler. Shay and his son, Lette, ran tourist trains on the line in the summer at 25c a head, as in this photo. They built two further Shay locomotives for the line. Shay sold his waterworks to the local village in 1913 and died in 1916.
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For more information on this and further views of 'Baby' and her two sister locos, see pages 66 to 73 of Michael Koch's 'The Shay Locomotive Titan Of The Timber' (488 pages, limited edition, World Press, Inc., USA, 1971). Richard Horne
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From: halfpilotstaff <ta1712@internode.on.net> Subject: [LRRSA] Re: Underground Railroad: 1942 To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au Date: Thursday, 13 January, 2011, 12:06 A "coffee pot" Shay?!?! Who'd a-thunkit.... --- In LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au, Tom D <jtd245@...> wrote: What a fascinating site. Here is another interesting photo. http://www.shorpy.com/node/7786?size=_original - Tom. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Underground Railroad: 1942
halfpilotstaff
I had no idea that that was "THE"! All I knew was the telltale pinioned drivewheels and the "sidewinder" vertical cylinders...
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Thanks for the explanatory link, David :-)
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Re: Underground Railroad: 1942
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From: "halfpilotstaff" <ta1712@internode.on.net> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 12:06 PM To: <LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au> Subject: [LRRSA] Re: Underground Railroad: 1942 A "coffee pot" Shay?!?!But that isn't "a" Shay, it's "the" Shay, Ephraim's own prototype, at Harbor Springs. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbor_Springs_Railway David 1/2d
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