1. LRRSA@groups.io
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Re: Moving to Groups.io

John Dennis
 

Having heard all the good stories about the migration, we shall investigate what is needed. First we will need to find the moderator...

John Dennis
LRRSA Sales Officer.

On 2 May 2018 at 19:49, rodsmith@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:
 

Three of my major groups have moved to io, with great success.  It allows the transfer of all existing yahoo material, so archives are preserved.  Two were done by experienced people.  The third was done by a novice, with success in just 24 h.

One has gone to google groups: more cumbersome, but still works.

Yahoo has been in self-destruct mode since Nov.17.

Photos are erratic, mainly missing.
Text is being delayed.

Groups relying on photos just have to defect.


Roderick
Re: Moving to Groups.io

Roderick Smith
 

Three of my major groups have moved to io, with great success.  It allows the transfer of all existing yahoo material, so archives are preserved.  Two were done by experienced people.  The third was done by a novice, with success in just 24 h.

One has gone to google groups: more cumbersome, but still works.

Yahoo has been in self-destruct mode since Nov.17.

Photos are erratic, mainly missing.
Text is being delayed.

Groups relying on photos just have to defect.


Roderick
Re: Moving to Groups.io

Kevin Sewell
 

It's the extremely lazy (that's me!!!) way of saying As I Understand It.


On Wed, 2 May 2018 at 4:29 PM, Frank Stamford frank.stamford@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:
 

Hello Kevin,

What is AIUI ?

Regards,
Frank




On 2/05/2018 3:41 PM, Kevin Sewell kevinrsewell@... [LRRSA] wrote:

I do not have a strong opinion about staying with Yahoo or moving to io.groups (largely because any opinion I express will not be based on any level of informed or educated expertise), except to say that one Group I belong to did move from Yahoo to io.groups, had relatively little problem in doing so, had all the archive brought across, but still kept the old Yahoo Group alive in case it was necessary for some unforeseen reason. As far as I as a 'umble user not mod am aware, that unforeseen reason has never arisen. As a Group we have all participated in bedding it down about two years ago, had some ups and downs in the process, learned a LOT, and also been active participants in the overall io.groups beta mob. And it's not a Group of young techie hipsters used to flitting around different media - the youngest is probably late 50s.

I cannot think of a single instance where io.groups has fallen over in that two years, and although I am not a mod of that particular Group, AIUI, questions to the io.groups owner/designer/writer or whatever he is, have been responded to generally in minutes or at worst hours, not days or weeks.

Not casting nasturtiums at Yahoo, and couldn't care one way or 't'other what mechanism this Group uses (I am NOT on commission!!!) but I have certainly been impressed with io.groups.

On Wed, 2 May 2018 at 10:42 AM, Philip Graham philip.graham567@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:
 
Dear Moderator

Please move to Groups.io. It is now imperative to do so. Yahoo has invoked this business of OATH just recently, and I note that Flickr has gone to SmugMug. So Yahoo userbility is being whittled away piece by piece and compartmentalized.

Of the other groups that have moved to Groups.io, one with a very big back archive of messages going back many years is the Industrial Railway Society, and their moderator had very little trouble with the move. Furthermore the archive remains searchable right back to the beginning.

There is little incentive to remain with Yahoo.

Philip G Graham - Tasmania (-PGG-)

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Don't just answer the question, question the answer.
Re: Moving to Groups.io

John Dennis
 

AIUI = As I Understand It.

John

On 2 May 2018 at 16:26, Frank Stamford frank.stamford@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:
 

Hello Kevin,

What is AIUI ?

Regards,
Frank


On 2/05/2018 3:41 PM, Kevin Sewell kevinrsewell@... [LRRSA] wrote:
 
I do not have a strong opinion about staying with Yahoo or moving to io.groups (largely because any opinion I express will not be based on any level of informed or educated expertise), except to say that one Group I belong to did move from Yahoo to io.groups, had relatively little problem in doing so, had all the archive brought across, but still kept the old Yahoo Group alive in case it was necessary for some unforeseen reason. As far as I as a 'umble user not mod am aware, that unforeseen reason has never arisen. As a Group we have all participated in bedding it down about two years ago, had some ups and downs in the process, learned a LOT, and also been active participants in the overall io.groups beta mob. And it's not a Group of young techie hipsters used to flitting around different media - the youngest is probably late 50s.

I cannot think of a single instance where io.groups has fallen over in that two years, and although I am not a mod of that particular Group, AIUI, questions to the io.groups owner/designer/writer or whatever he is, have been responded to generally in minutes or at worst hours, not days or weeks.

Not casting nasturtiums at Yahoo, and couldn't care one way or 't'other what mechanism this Group uses (I am NOT on commission!!!) but I have certainly been impressed with io.groups.

On Wed, 2 May 2018 at 10:42 AM, Philip Graham philip.graham567@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:
 
Dear Moderator

Please move to Groups.io. It is now imperative to do so. Yahoo has invoked this business of OATH just recently, and I note that Flickr has gone to SmugMug. So Yahoo userbility is being whittled away piece by piece and compartmentalized.

Of the other groups that have moved to Groups.io, one with a very big back archive of messages going back many years is the Industrial Railway Society, and their moderator had very little trouble with the move. Furthermore the archive remains searchable right back to the beginning.

There is little incentive to remain with Yahoo.

Philip G Graham - Tasmania (-PGG-)

--
Don't just answer the question, question the answer.
Re: Moving to Groups.io

Frank Stamford
 

Hello Kevin,

What is AIUI ?

Regards,
Frank


On 2/05/2018 3:41 PM, Kevin Sewell kevinrsewell@... [LRRSA] wrote:
 
I do not have a strong opinion about staying with Yahoo or moving to io.groups (largely because any opinion I express will not be based on any level of informed or educated expertise), except to say that one Group I belong to did move from Yahoo to io.groups, had relatively little problem in doing so, had all the archive brought across, but still kept the old Yahoo Group alive in case it was necessary for some unforeseen reason. As far as I as a 'umble user not mod am aware, that unforeseen reason has never arisen. As a Group we have all participated in bedding it down about two years ago, had some ups and downs in the process, learned a LOT, and also been active participants in the overall io.groups beta mob. And it's not a Group of young techie hipsters used to flitting around different media - the youngest is probably late 50s.

I cannot think of a single instance where io.groups has fallen over in that two years, and although I am not a mod of that particular Group, AIUI, questions to the io.groups owner/designer/writer or whatever he is, have been responded to generally in minutes or at worst hours, not days or weeks.

Not casting nasturtiums at Yahoo, and couldn't care one way or 't'other what mechanism this Group uses (I am NOT on commission!!!) but I have certainly been impressed with io.groups.

On Wed, 2 May 2018 at 10:42 AM, Philip Graham philip.graham567@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:
 
Dear Moderator

Please move to Groups.io. It is now imperative to do so. Yahoo has invoked this business of OATH just recently, and I note that Flickr has gone to SmugMug. So Yahoo userbility is being whittled away piece by piece and compartmentalized.

Of the other groups that have moved to Groups.io, one with a very big back archive of messages going back many years is the Industrial Railway Society, and their moderator had very little trouble with the move. Furthermore the archive remains searchable right back to the beginning.

There is little incentive to remain with Yahoo.

Philip G Graham - Tasmania (-PGG-)

--
Don't just answer the question, question the answer.
Re: Moving to Groups.io

Kevin Sewell
 

I do not have a strong opinion about staying with Yahoo or moving to io.groups (largely because any opinion I express will not be based on any level of informed or educated expertise), except to say that one Group I belong to did move from Yahoo to io.groups, had relatively little problem in doing so, had all the archive brought across, but still kept the old Yahoo Group alive in case it was necessary for some unforeseen reason. As far as I as a 'umble user not mod am aware, that unforeseen reason has never arisen. As a Group we have all participated in bedding it down about two years ago, had some ups and downs in the process, learned a LOT, and also been active participants in the overall io.groups beta mob. And it's not a Group of young techie hipsters used to flitting around different media - the youngest is probably late 50s.

I cannot think of a single instance where io.groups has fallen over in that two years, and although I am not a mod of that particular Group, AIUI, questions to the io.groups owner/designer/writer or whatever he is, have been responded to generally in minutes or at worst hours, not days or weeks.

Not casting nasturtiums at Yahoo, and couldn't care one way or 't'other what mechanism this Group uses (I am NOT on commission!!!) but I have certainly been impressed with io.groups.


On Wed, 2 May 2018 at 10:42 AM, Philip Graham philip.graham567@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:
 

Dear Moderator

Please move to Groups.io. It is now imperative to do so. Yahoo has invoked this business of OATH just recently, and I note that Flickr has gone to SmugMug. So Yahoo userbility is being whittled away piece by piece and compartmentalized.

Of the other groups that have moved to Groups.io, one with a very big back archive of messages going back many years is the Industrial Railway Society, and their moderator had very little trouble with the move. Furthermore the archive remains searchable right back to the beginning.

There is little incentive to remain with Yahoo.

Philip G Graham - Tasmania (-PGG-)

--
Don't just answer the question, question the answer.
Moving to Groups.io

Philip G Graham
 

Dear Moderator

Please move to Groups.io. It is now imperative to do so. Yahoo has invoked this business of OATH just recently, and I note that Flickr has gone to SmugMug. So Yahoo userbility is being whittled away piece by piece and compartmentalized.

Of the other groups that have moved to Groups.io, one with a very big back archive of messages going back many years is the Industrial Railway Society, and their moderator had very little trouble with the move. Furthermore the archive remains searchable right back to the beginning.

There is little incentive to remain with Yahoo.

Philip G Graham - Tasmania (-PGG-)
CSR history book 1956

Petan
 

The following CSR historical book from 1956 is downloadable by individual chapters. The total is about one GB (one Gigabyte), so do it when it agrees with your personal download limits, or do at a public library etc. The following website shows individual chapter headings and the file size of each chapter. Cheers Peter Cokley

 

Lowndes, AG. ‘South Pacific enterprise: The Colonial Sugar Refining Company Limited’. Angus and Robertson, Sydney, 1956

https://openresearch-repository.anu.edu.au/handle/1885/108925

 
Re: Puffing Billy - 3D video map

Michael McCarthy
 

John,
You can do it in Google Earth as well using an image overlay and a path.
Mike 

Mobile: +61 407700911

On 28 Apr 2018, at 10:16 am, johnc@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:

 

Hello all,
(apologies if this is the second time you get this message; I've had some minor hiccups with Yahoo email lists this week)
Back in 2015 and 2016 I mentioned the Memory Map software/maps (http://memory-map.com.au/digital-maps/topographic-maps-australia.html) on this email list, and it having both 2D and 3D maps.

When updating the software earlier in the year, I noted something that I had previously overlooked or ignored - it can also produce 3D 'video maps'. I created such maps (the end result being MPG files) using GPS tracks from a handheld or kit-build GPS.
After a visit to Daylesford over Easter, I had a further think about this, and wondered if I could create a GPX file using Vicmap digital map data (rather than just from a GPS device). This turned out to be possible, and so among the examples, I've created one of Puffing Billy, running from Belgrave to Gembrook.
This video map can be found at: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6fbmnqbk9c7x9sp/PuffingBilly.mpg?dl=0
Note that I've kept it to 480*640 resolution to keep the file size down.

For those interested, the procedure is below:


Of course, if you have commercial CAD software, you can do the work in that instead of freeware CAD software.

Regards,
John --
John Cleverdon
Mornington Peninsula, Victoria, Australia
John's web page: http://users.cdi.com.au/~johnc/
LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/pub/john-cleverdon/a/a81/2b
Re: Digest Number 2725

david matthewson
 

Very neat stuff John, thanks for sharing..

David

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To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: [LRRSA] Digest Number 2725

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Topics in this digest:

1. Puffing Billy - 3D video map
From: john_cleverdon
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Puffing Billy - 3D video map

johnc@...
 

Hello all,
(apologies if this is the second time you get this message; I've had some minor hiccups with Yahoo email lists this week)
Back in 2015 and 2016 I mentioned the Memory Map software/maps (http://memory-map.com.au/digital-maps/topographic-maps-australia.html) on this email list, and it having both 2D and 3D maps.

When updating the software earlier in the year, I noted something that I had previously overlooked or ignored - it can also produce 3D 'video maps'. I created such maps (the end result being MPG files) using GPS tracks from a handheld or kit-build GPS.
After a visit to Daylesford over Easter, I had a further think about this, and wondered if I could create a GPX file using Vicmap digital map data (rather than just from a GPS device). This turned out to be possible, and so among the examples, I've created one of Puffing Billy, running from Belgrave to Gembrook.
This video map can be found at: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6fbmnqbk9c7x9sp/PuffingBilly.mpg?dl=0
Note that I've kept it to 480*640 resolution to keep the file size down.

For those interested, the procedure is below:
  • I already had the rail network (for this example) in GIS format, and opened it using open-source GIS (Geographic Information System) software  - QGIS (https://www.qgis.org/en/site/). The data was from the Vicmap digital data download at: http://services.land.vic.gov.au/SpatialDatamart/
  • There relevant rail network segments were selected and then saved as a DXF file (on WGS84 coordinates).
  • In Draft Sight (freeware CAD software - https://www.3ds.com/products-services/draftsight-cad-software/free-download/), these rail segments were 'welded' (joined) in to one segment.
  • This single segment was saved as a new DXF file, and then then opened in QGIS software.
  • In QGIS, this was converted to GPX format (keeping it on WGS84 coordinates), and then opened in Memory Map, where the 3D video map was created.
  • Memory Map produces an AVI file (very big!), it was converted to MPG format using the free software at: https://www.videoconverterfactory.com/free-hd-video-converter/
  • I've noted that the AVI file has a limit of around 4GB file-size when created, this works out to around 35km distance.

Of course, if you have commercial CAD software, you can do the work in that instead of freeware CAD software.

Regards,
John --
John Cleverdon
Mornington Peninsula, Victoria, Australia
John's web page: http://users.cdi.com.au/~johnc/
LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/pub/john-cleverdon/a/a81/2b
Puffing Billy - 3D video map

John Cleverdon <johnc@...>
 

Hello all,
(apologies if this is the second time you get this message; I've had some minor hiccups with Yahoo email lists this week)
Back in 2015 and 2016 I mentioned the Memory Map software/maps (http://memory-map.com.au/digital-maps/topographic-maps-australia.html) on this email list, and it having both 2D and 3D maps.

When updating the software earlier in the year, I noted something that I had previously overlooked or ignored - it can also produce 3D 'video maps'. I created such maps (the end result being MPG files) using GPS tracks from a handheld or kit-build GPS.
After a visit to Daylesford over Easter, I had a further think about this, and wondered if I could create a GPX file using Vicmap digital map data (rather than just from a GPS device). This turned out to be possible, and so among the examples, I've created one of Puffing Billy, running from Belgrave to Gembrook.
This video map can be found at: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6fbmnqbk9c7x9sp/PuffingBilly.mpg?dl=0
Note that I've kept it to 480*640 resolution to keep the file size down.

For those interested, the procedure is below:
  • I already had the rail network (for this example) in GIS format, and opened it using open-source GIS (Geographic Information System) software  - QGIS (https://www.qgis.org/en/site/). The data was from the Vicmap digital data download at: http://services.land.vic.gov.au/SpatialDatamart/
  • There relevant rail network segments were selected and then saved as a DXF file (on WGS84 coordinates).
  • In Draft Sight (freeware CAD software - https://www.3ds.com/products-services/draftsight-cad-software/free-download/), these rail segments were 'welded' (joined) in to one segment.
  • This single segment was saved as a new DXF file, and then then opened in QGIS software.
  • In QGIS, this was converted to GPX format (keeping it on WGS84 coordinates), and then opened in Memory Map, where the 3D video map was created.
  • Memory Map produces an AVI file (very big!), it was converted to MPG format using the free software at: https://www.videoconverterfactory.com/free-hd-video-converter/
  • I've noted that the AVI file has a limit of around 4GB file-size when created, this works out to around 35km distance.

Of course, if you have commercial CAD software, you can do the work in that instead of freeware CAD software.

Regards,
John
--
John Cleverdon
Mornington Peninsula, Victoria, Australia
John's web page: http://users.cdi.com.au/~johnc/
LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/pub/john-cleverdon/a/a81/2b
Puffing Billy - 3D video map

John Cleverdon <johnc@...>
 

Hello all,
Back in 2015 and 2016 I mentioned the Memory Map software/maps (http://memory-map.com.au/digital-maps/topographic-maps-australia.html) on this email list, and it having both 2D and 3D maps.

When updating the software earlier in the year, I noted something that I had previously overlooked or ignored - it can also produce 3D 'video maps'. I created such maps (the end result being MPG files) using GPS tracks from a handheld or kit-build GPS.
After a visit to Daylesford over Easter, I had a further think about this, and wondered if I could create a GPX file using Vicmap digital map data (rather than just from a GPS device). This turned out to be possible, and so among the examples, I've created one of Puffing Billy, running from Belgrave to Gembrook.
This video map can be found at: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6fbmnqbk9c7x9sp/PuffingBilly.mpg?dl=0
Note that I've kept it to 480*640 resolution to keep the file size down.

For those interested, the procedure is below:
  • I already had the rail network (for this example) in GIS format, and opened it using open-source GIS (Geographic Information System) software  - QGIS (https://www.qgis.org/en/site/). The data was from the Vicmap digital data download at: http://services.land.vic.gov.au/SpatialDatamart/
  • There relevant rail network segments were selected and then saved as a DXF file (on WGS84 coordinates).
  • In Draft Sight (freeware CAD software - https://www.3ds.com/products-services/draftsight-cad-software/free-download/), these rail segments were 'welded' (joined) in to one segment.
  • This single segment was saved as a new DXF file, and then then opened in QGIS software.
  • In QGIS, this was converted to GPX format (keeping it on WGS84 coordinates), and then opened in Memory Map, where the 3D video map was created.
  • Memory Map produces an AVI file (very big!), it was converted to MPG format using the free software at: https://www.videoconverterfactory.com/free-hd-video-converter/
  • I've noted that the AVI file has a limit of around 4GB file-size when created, this works out to around 35km distance.

Of course, if you have commercial CAD software, you can do the work in that instead of freeware CAD software.

Regards,
John
--
John Cleverdon
Mornington Peninsula, Victoria, Australia
John's web page: http://users.cdi.com.au/~johnc/
LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/pub/john-cleverdon/a/a81/2b
Re: Book request

David Halfpenny
 

On 20 Apr 2018, at 08:16, Michael Chapman chapmanmchapman@aol.com [LRRSA] <LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au> wrote:

Dear all,

A quick query.

I'm a volunteer at the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway in North Wales. In addition to running trains, we also run a really successful book shop specialising in narrow gauge titles.
Yes, it’s a really good bookshop!
I buy from them at exhibitions from time to time.

I last visited the actual shop some 30 years ago, asking for narrow gauge books. The Volunteer said, “I think you’d be interested in this little book about the Kama Sutra Railway in India.” I was, and I’ve still got it :-)

David 1/2d
Re: : Book request

Frank Stamford
 

Hello Michael,

Copies are readily available on the second hand market, and at reasonable prices.

Go to www.bookfinder.com and use Lou Rae and The Abt Railway as author and title, and you will find them.

Regards,
Frank
Re: Book request

rthorne475
 

Michael,

Contact me off group and I'll give you Lou's contact details.

Richard Horne

On Friday, 20 April 2018, 08:16:42 BST, Michael Chapman chapmanmchapman@... [LRRSA] wrote:


 

Dear all,

A quick query.

I'm a volunteer at the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway in North Wales. In addition to running trains, we also run a really successful book shop specialising in narrow gauge titles.

Recently we were asked about Lou Rae's book on the Abt Railway in Tasmania.

Does anyone know who the publisher is and where copies of the book can be obtained - if still available?

Michael Chapman

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ smartphone
Book request

Michael C.
 

Dear all,

A quick query.

I'm a volunteer at the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway in North Wales. In addition to running trains, we also run a really successful book shop specialising in narrow gauge titles.

Recently we were asked about Lou Rae's book on the Abt Railway in Tasmania.

Does anyone know who the publisher is and where copies of the book can be obtained - if still available?

Michael Chapman

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ smartphone
Re: : RE: NSW parish maps

Petan
 

Try this web site, NSW Spatial Services

When the home page opens click on parish maps, click accept on the copyright page and it will take you directly to parish maps.

This works for me without that repetitive annoying pop up small window that does allow the parish maps to load, so I am back in action.

Cheers
Peter Cokley

From: yahoomail@... <yahoomail@...> 
Sent: Friday, 20 April 2018 7:56 AM
To: 'LRRSA@...' <LRRSA@...>
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] NSW parish maps

Thanks Iain!!
Problem continues on our browsers including FF so the problem has thus been isolated to our system. I did reply earlier but we had email troubles so maybe the earlier reply might eventually appear.

Cheers
Peter Cokley
Re: NSW parish maps

Iain
 

Seems to be working fine for my on FF

 

Dr Iain Stuart

 

JCIS Consultants

P.O. Box 2397

Burwood North

NSW 2134

Australia

 

(02) 97010191

Iain_Stuart@...

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 18 April 2018 3:10 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: [LRRSA] NSW parish maps

 

 

Wondering if anyone else is having troubles with the usual NSW Land Registry Services' (NSW LRS) Historical Land Records Viewer as it either tells me that site is no secure or it does open but the page after the accepting of the copyright etc has a small pop up window with blue ok button after I enter the name of the required parish. Clicking that OK button than starts an endless loop of repeated requests to do the same without any maps appearing. This only really started a couple of weeks ago. Same on all three of the internet browsers here.
http://hlrv.nswlrs.com.au/pixel.htm

Cheers
Peter Cokley
NSW parish maps

Petan
 

Wondering if anyone else is having troubles with the usual NSW Land Registry Services' (NSW LRS) Historical Land Records Viewer as it either tells me that site is no secure or it does open but the page after the accepting of the copyright etc has a small pop up window with blue ok button after I enter the name of the required parish. Clicking that OK button than starts an endless loop of repeated requests to do the same without any maps appearing. This only really started a couple of weeks ago. Same on all three of the internet browsers here.
http://hlrv.nswlrs.com.au/pixel.htm

Cheers
Peter Cokley
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