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Re: Mystery narrow gauge

Hunslet
 

Regretfully, the link doesn’t want to work!

Hunslet.

 

From: LRRSA@groups.io [mailto:LRRSA@groups.io] On Behalf Of Colin Harvey
Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2018 1:23 PM
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Mystery narrow gauge

 

Rod, it's a detail from this image http://handle.slv.vic.gov.au/10381/137270
of the south bank of the Yarra next to Princes Bridge - now the site of Hamer Hall.
Colin


Re: Mystery narrow gauge

Colin Harvey
 


Mystery narrow gauge

Roderick Smith
 

The facebook group Victorian Railway History (Australia) has had several
photos of light-railway interest recently.
Frank has responded to some of them there.
I am reposting, in the hopes of gaining extra knowledge here.
Perhaps some recognise the photo from publishing elsewhere?

VRH(A)-ng.mystery.jpg

They wagons could be mine skips.
There is no guarantee that this was Victoria.

Roderick.


Re: OFF-TOPIC UK photographs

Ian Pither <ian.pither35@...>
 

Many,many thanks for the pictures and all your work.
Ian (Germany)

On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 at 09:00, Michael C. via Groups.Io <chapmanmchapman=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Dear all,

Apologies for filling your inboxes again...

I've been taking photos again, this time of the two foot gauge Welsh Highland Heritage Railway in Porthmadog.

Take a look if you're interested.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157694097403672

Cheers,

Michael Chapman

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ smartphone



Re: "From the Bush to the Bungalow" 1924 film of timber tramway operations

Frank Stamford
 

Thanks for those interesting comments John.

In the early 1980s I had the privilege of interviewing Alf Milner at Yarra Junction, he was 79 at the time, and had worked with timber tramway horses in the 1920s and 1930s. He said he loved the horses, and from the way he spoke that was clearly true. He also said that the horses had one hour for lunch, but the men had 45 minutes. But because the lunch break was usually in some remote part of the forest he got an hour for lunch, as there wasn't much to do in the spare 15 minutes.

And it was clear from what he said that a great deal of skill was needed to control the loads in wet weather. He also described the way he modified the harnesses for each horse so that they fitted as comfortably as possible. And he said that the lead horse was always carefully selected to be the "brainy one".

Regards,
Frank


On 8 Jun 2018, at 3:45 pm, John Browning <ceo8@...> wrote:

Thanks Frank

The conditions appear to be hot and dusty.

It was interesting to see the driving technique – mostly braking I guess as the horses would be well motivated by the prospect of knock-off time and a good feed back at base.

John


Re: OFF-TOPIC UK photographs

Michael C.
 

Dear all,

Apologies for filling your inboxes again...

I've been taking photos again, this time of the two foot gauge Welsh Highland Heritage Railway in Porthmadog.

Take a look if you're interested.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157694097403672

Cheers,

Michael Chapman

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ smartphone


Re: "From the Bush to the Bungalow" 1924 film of timber tramway operations

John Browning
 

Thanks Frank

The conditions appear to be hot and dusty.

It was interesting to see the driving technique – mostly braking I guess as the horses would be well motivated by the prospect of knock-off time and a good feed back at base.

John


"From the Bush to the Bungalow" 1924 film of timber tramway operations

Frank Stamford
 

The link below is to the YouTube video "From the Bush to the Bungalow" which shows horse tramway operations on Horner & Monett's 3 ft gauge timber tramway about 3 km east of Powelltown, Victoria. The date is about 1924. The horse tramway operations are shown between 3:56 to 6:04; and 7:34 to 8:06 minutes. I would recommend that you change the speed to 0.75 to more accurately represent the original film speed (click on the wheel on the bottom right and select "Settings" to do this). The film gives a wonderful insight into logging operations, horse tramway working, and life in the bush at that time. Many similar tramways operated in Tasmania, Victoria, New South Wales, and to a lesser extent in Queensland and Western Australia. The YouTube video can be found here: https://youtu.be/7BRpobdO6Hg


LRRSA books

Petan
 

Any thoughts on selling LRRSA books as a PDF? Maybe they already exist as PDFs somewhere in LRRSA HQ as they may have been prepared in that or similar format to send to the printer. My local museum has a space problem especially for book sales stock and so have decided no reprints of their books and instead will sell them as PDFs. Thus I wonder if LRRSA also has a storage problem which book as PDFs instead of paper, might help. No response necessary as I am just raising the issue which may take time for LRRSA HQ to ponder and then make a decision.

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley


Light Railways 261 is in the mail

John Dennis
 

Light Railways 261, the June issue, and the last of the current membership year, was packed by a willing team of volunteers last night, and handed over to Australia Post today. Perhaps a week later than we hoped, but the key word is "volunteers".

The main articles in this issue include a detailed look at Hunslet locomotive 1239 (WD327), recently restored and on display at Ipswich; Early days of Mount Read, Williamsford and Rosebery in Tasmania; the Munitions Factory light railways at Villawood and St Marys in NSW; and a wonderful article based around a set of photographs of the the 
wooden railed trams to the Elliott River, Apollo Bay, Victoria,

Your copy should be in your letter box next week, or available at your local newsagent. If you are not a member you can purchase a copy via the online shop, paper or PDF. Follow this link: http://lrrsa.org.au/Lrr_LRk.html#LR261


John Dennis



Re: Kiama Loco Inquiry from South Burwood Coal Company

John Dennis
 

It says 12,000 in the newspaper.  Fake News!

John

On 27 May 2018 at 17:19, rthorne475 via Groups.Io <rthorne475@...> wrote:
I haven't checked the reference, but surely that £12,000 should be £1,200.  

Richard Horne

On Sunday, 27 May 2018, 07:48:51 BST, John Dennis <jdennis412@...> wrote:


Bruce, 

That is an interesting find, it would be very nice to know the answer - or perhaps to be a fly-on-the-wall when they made the discovery.

John



On 27 May 2018 at 16:15, bjr2105 <brucerankin@...> wrote:

This afternoon, I was looking through some old newspapers on Trove and came across the following interesting snippet.

 

One wonders whether the South Burwood Coal Company realised the loco they were inquiring upon from Kiama (Fowler 5265 of 1886) was a narrow gauge loco, rather than a standard gauge one that would have been useful on their line at that time under construction from Adamstown to South Burwood Colliery (colliery sinking operations also underway at that time).  The South Burwood Colliery subsequently became known as Dudley Colliery.

 

Thought that some on this list might be interested.

 

https://trove.nla.gov.au/ newspaper/article/135708176

Illawarra Mercury, Thursday 3 October, 1889, page 2

KIAMA.

A special meeting of the Kiama Municipal Council was hold, on Tuesday last, for the purpose of considering a letter from the South Burwood Coal Company, making enquiries about the corporation locomotive, with a view to purchasing it. The meeting was attended by the Mayor, Aldermen Cole, King, Noble, Simmons, Somerville and Russell. The price of the motor was fixed at £800, and the clerk was directed to offer it at that sum, give a full description of the engine, and name one month as the time for the offer to be open. If the Burwood Company purchase at the price named, they will have no reason to regret, as the engine is one of John Fowler and Co.'s best, cost nearly £12,000 and has never done an hour's work, being therefore as good as new.

 

Regards,

Bruce Rankin




Re: Kiama Loco Inquiry from South Burwood Coal Company

rthorne475
 

I haven't checked the reference, but surely that £12,000 should be £1,200.  

Richard Horne

On Sunday, 27 May 2018, 07:48:51 BST, John Dennis <jdennis412@...> wrote:


Bruce, 

That is an interesting find, it would be very nice to know the answer - or perhaps to be a fly-on-the-wall when they made the discovery.

John



On 27 May 2018 at 16:15, bjr2105 <brucerankin@...> wrote:

This afternoon, I was looking through some old newspapers on Trove and came across the following interesting snippet.

 

One wonders whether the South Burwood Coal Company realised the loco they were inquiring upon from Kiama (Fowler 5265 of 1886) was a narrow gauge loco, rather than a standard gauge one that would have been useful on their line at that time under construction from Adamstown to South Burwood Colliery (colliery sinking operations also underway at that time).  The South Burwood Colliery subsequently became known as Dudley Colliery.

 

Thought that some on this list might be interested.

 

https://trove.nla.gov.au/ newspaper/article/135708176

Illawarra Mercury, Thursday 3 October, 1889, page 2

KIAMA.

A special meeting of the Kiama Municipal Council was hold, on Tuesday last, for the purpose of considering a letter from the South Burwood Coal Company, making enquiries about the corporation locomotive, with a view to purchasing it. The meeting was attended by the Mayor, Aldermen Cole, King, Noble, Simmons, Somerville and Russell. The price of the motor was fixed at £800, and the clerk was directed to offer it at that sum, give a full description of the engine, and name one month as the time for the offer to be open. If the Burwood Company purchase at the price named, they will have no reason to regret, as the engine is one of John Fowler and Co.'s best, cost nearly £12,000 and has never done an hour's work, being therefore as good as new.

 

Regards,

Bruce Rankin



Re: New book on Greta/South Maitland Coalfields

rthorne475
 

Dick,

n_andrews@..., of course.

Regards,

Richard Horne

On Sunday, 27 May 2018, 04:09:47 BST, dickwho1 <dickwho1@...> wrote:


My Outlook doesn’t like the address you gave for the author. Is it correct?

Dick Holland
Broken Hill


On 27 May 2018, at 12:25, Jeff Mullier <jmullier@...> wrote:

Volume 1 of "Coal, Railways & Mines - The Railways and Collieries of the Greta & South Maitland Coalfields" by Brian Robert Andrews is now available. This book has a red cover & is the companion to the author’s previous books on J & A Brown’s collieries & railways (black cover) & the 2 volume Newcastle/ Lake Macquarie collieries & railways (blue covers).
 
Volume Vol. 1 covers the Greta & Farley, area collieries, the East Greta Collieries & the East Greta Coal Mining Co Railway to Stanford Merthyr along with the collieries along the Stanford Merthyr line, Richmond Main & Pelaw Main Collieries, along with locos of the East Greta Coal Mining Co. Extensive use of surviving SMR documentation & other period documentation was used & the preparation of the book. The book is 480 pages, hard cover plus dust jacket and is the first of 5 volumes.
 
The book is only available from the author and is not being sold by others due to the limited print run.  Cost of book is $110.00 plus postage and pacing if applicable, with pick up available. Copies can be obtained by contacting Brian by email on n_andrews@bigbond(dot)com
 
Volume 2 of similar size is in the final stages of preparation & is the same size as volume 1 (480 pages).
 
Regards
Jeff Mullier


Re: Kiama Loco Inquiry from South Burwood Coal Company

John Dennis
 

Bruce, 

That is an interesting find, it would be very nice to know the answer - or perhaps to be a fly-on-the-wall when they made the discovery.

John



On 27 May 2018 at 16:15, bjr2105 <brucerankin@...> wrote:

This afternoon, I was looking through some old newspapers on Trove and came across the following interesting snippet.

 

One wonders whether the South Burwood Coal Company realised the loco they were inquiring upon from Kiama (Fowler 5265 of 1886) was a narrow gauge loco, rather than a standard gauge one that would have been useful on their line at that time under construction from Adamstown to South Burwood Colliery (colliery sinking operations also underway at that time).  The South Burwood Colliery subsequently became known as Dudley Colliery.

 

Thought that some on this list might be interested.

 

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/135708176

Illawarra Mercury, Thursday 3 October, 1889, page 2

KIAMA.

A special meeting of the Kiama Municipal Council was hold, on Tuesday last, for the purpose of considering a letter from the South Burwood Coal Company, making enquiries about the corporation locomotive, with a view to purchasing it. The meeting was attended by the Mayor, Aldermen Cole, King, Noble, Simmons, Somerville and Russell. The price of the motor was fixed at £800, and the clerk was directed to offer it at that sum, give a full description of the engine, and name one month as the time for the offer to be open. If the Burwood Company purchase at the price named, they will have no reason to regret, as the engine is one of John Fowler and Co.'s best, cost nearly £12,000 and has never done an hour's work, being therefore as good as new.

 

Regards,

Bruce Rankin



Kiama Loco Inquiry from South Burwood Coal Company

bjr2105
 

This afternoon, I was looking through some old newspapers on Trove and came across the following interesting snippet.

 

One wonders whether the South Burwood Coal Company realised the loco they were inquiring upon from Kiama (Fowler 5265 of 1886) was a narrow gauge loco, rather than a standard gauge one that would have been useful on their line at that time under construction from Adamstown to South Burwood Colliery (colliery sinking operations also underway at that time).  The South Burwood Colliery subsequently became known as Dudley Colliery.

 

Thought that some on this list might be interested.

 

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/135708176

Illawarra Mercury, Thursday 3 October, 1889, page 2

KIAMA.

A special meeting of the Kiama Municipal Council was hold, on Tuesday last, for the purpose of considering a letter from the South Burwood Coal Company, making enquiries about the corporation locomotive, with a view to purchasing it. The meeting was attended by the Mayor, Aldermen Cole, King, Noble, Simmons, Somerville and Russell. The price of the motor was fixed at £800, and the clerk was directed to offer it at that sum, give a full description of the engine, and name one month as the time for the offer to be open. If the Burwood Company purchase at the price named, they will have no reason to regret, as the engine is one of John Fowler and Co.'s best, cost nearly £12,000 and has never done an hour's work, being therefore as good as new.

 

Regards,

Bruce Rankin


Re: New book on Greta/South Maitland Coalfields

Jeff Mullier
 

Correct address is n_andrews@bigbond.com  replaced the (dot) with a .
 
Jeff
 

From: dickwho1
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] New book on Greta/South Maitland Coalfields
 
My Outlook doesn’t like the address you gave for the author. Is it correct?
 
Dick Holland
Broken Hill


On 27 May 2018, at 12:25, Jeff Mullier <jmullier@...> wrote:

Volume 1 of "Coal, Railways & Mines - The Railways and Collieries of the Greta & South Maitland Coalfields" by Brian Robert Andrews is now available. This book has a red cover & is the companion to the author’s previous books on J & A Brown’s collieries & railways (black cover) & the 2 volume Newcastle/ Lake Macquarie collieries & railways (blue covers).
 
Volume Vol. 1 covers the Greta & Farley, area collieries, the East Greta Collieries & the East Greta Coal Mining Co Railway to Stanford Merthyr along with the collieries along the Stanford Merthyr line, Richmond Main & Pelaw Main Collieries, along with locos of the East Greta Coal Mining Co. Extensive use of surviving SMR documentation & other period documentation was used & the preparation of the book. The book is 480 pages, hard cover plus dust jacket and is the first of 5 volumes.
 
The book is only available from the author and is not being sold by others due to the limited print run.  Cost of book is $110.00 plus postage and pacing if applicable, with pick up available. Copies can be obtained by contacting Brian by email on n_andrews@bigbond(dot)com
 
Volume 2 of similar size is in the final stages of preparation & is the same size as volume 1 (480 pages).
 
Regards
Jeff Mullier


Re: New book on Greta/South Maitland Coalfields

John Dennis
 

Dick,

You will have to replace the (dot) with a real dot. 

John

On 27 May 2018 at 13:09, dickwho1 <dickwho1@...> wrote:
My Outlook doesn’t like the address you gave for the author. Is it correct?

Dick Holland
Broken Hill


On 27 May 2018, at 12:25, Jeff Mullier <jmullier@...> wrote:

Volume 1 of "Coal, Railways & Mines - The Railways and Collieries of the Greta & South Maitland Coalfields" by Brian Robert Andrews is now available. This book has a red cover & is the companion to the author’s previous books on J & A Brown’s collieries & railways (black cover) & the 2 volume Newcastle/ Lake Macquarie collieries & railways (blue covers).
 
Volume Vol. 1 covers the Greta & Farley, area collieries, the East Greta Collieries & the East Greta Coal Mining Co Railway to Stanford Merthyr along with the collieries along the Stanford Merthyr line, Richmond Main & Pelaw Main Collieries, along with locos of the East Greta Coal Mining Co. Extensive use of surviving SMR documentation & other period documentation was used & the preparation of the book. The book is 480 pages, hard cover plus dust jacket and is the first of 5 volumes.
 
The book is only available from the author and is not being sold by others due to the limited print run.  Cost of book is $110.00 plus postage and pacing if applicable, with pick up available. Copies can be obtained by contacting Brian by email on n_andrews@bigbond(dot)com
 
Volume 2 of similar size is in the final stages of preparation & is the same size as volume 1 (480 pages).
 
Regards
Jeff Mullier



Re: New book on Greta/South Maitland Coalfields

dickwho1
 

My Outlook doesn’t like the address you gave for the author. Is it correct?

Dick Holland
Broken Hill


On 27 May 2018, at 12:25, Jeff Mullier <jmullier@...> wrote:

Volume 1 of "Coal, Railways & Mines - The Railways and Collieries of the Greta & South Maitland Coalfields" by Brian Robert Andrews is now available. This book has a red cover & is the companion to the author’s previous books on J & A Brown’s collieries & railways (black cover) & the 2 volume Newcastle/ Lake Macquarie collieries & railways (blue covers).
 
Volume Vol. 1 covers the Greta & Farley, area collieries, the East Greta Collieries & the East Greta Coal Mining Co Railway to Stanford Merthyr along with the collieries along the Stanford Merthyr line, Richmond Main & Pelaw Main Collieries, along with locos of the East Greta Coal Mining Co. Extensive use of surviving SMR documentation & other period documentation was used & the preparation of the book. The book is 480 pages, hard cover plus dust jacket and is the first of 5 volumes.
 
The book is only available from the author and is not being sold by others due to the limited print run.  Cost of book is $110.00 plus postage and pacing if applicable, with pick up available. Copies can be obtained by contacting Brian by email on n_andrews@bigbond(dot)com
 
Volume 2 of similar size is in the final stages of preparation & is the same size as volume 1 (480 pages).
 
Regards
Jeff Mullier


New book on Greta/South Maitland Coalfields

Jeff Mullier
 

Volume 1 of "Coal, Railways & Mines - The Railways and Collieries of the Greta & South Maitland Coalfields" by Brian Robert Andrews is now available. This book has a red cover & is the companion to the author’s previous books on J & A Brown’s collieries & railways (black cover) & the 2 volume Newcastle/ Lake Macquarie collieries & railways (blue covers).
 
Volume Vol. 1 covers the Greta & Farley, area collieries, the East Greta Collieries & the East Greta Coal Mining Co Railway to Stanford Merthyr along with the collieries along the Stanford Merthyr line, Richmond Main & Pelaw Main Collieries, along with locos of the East Greta Coal Mining Co. Extensive use of surviving SMR documentation & other period documentation was used & the preparation of the book. The book is 480 pages, hard cover plus dust jacket and is the first of 5 volumes.
 
The book is only available from the author and is not being sold by others due to the limited print run.  Cost of book is $110.00 plus postage and pacing if applicable, with pick up available. Copies can be obtained by contacting Brian by email on n_andrews@bigbond(dot)com
 
Volume 2 of similar size is in the final stages of preparation & is the same size as volume 1 (480 pages).
 
Regards
Jeff Mullier


Cane horse wagon

Peter and Susan C <petanoz@...>
 

QLD State Archives Instagram of cane stalks on a horse drawn wagon. Cane vertical not horizontal. Actually this post is really an excuse to try out the new group and thanks everyone who helped the transfer!!

https://www.instagram.com/p/BjJcQQ0HBn0/?taken-by=qsarchives

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley

 

 

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