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Re: Derricks 1920s

John Browning
 

The photo here http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article163129940 shows that horse derricks were powered by a whim arrangement.

John

 


Derricks 1920s

Petan
 

Location is Crabbes Ck transhipment yards between CSR tramway and NSWGR to Condong mill Tweed Rive for the 1920s. General question on the NSWGR on what was a horse derrick? Another type quoted when I troved was a hand derrick which I assume was a hand operated winch type? Another type identified was an oil engine powered derrick with a picture from 1933 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/94233836

 

Would a horse derrick be where a horse was attached to the winch cable and so hauled on the cable?

 

Trove for horse derrick at Crabbes Ck in 1922 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/190729138

 

Trove stating both motor and hand derrick at Crabbes Ck 1924 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/191748063

 

A powered gantry crane appeared at Crabbes Ck sugar transhipment yard some years later.

 

Thanks

Peter Cokley


Endnotes

P Cokley
 

Since many seem to be using Endnotes for manage research references, I might share an online help guide from the University of QLD's library website. This URL only goes to the main link so it is up to you if you select the URL found on this link https://web.library.uq.edu.au/research-tools-techniques/referencing/referencing-software/endnote/using-endnote

Cheers
Peter Cokley


Re: Irvinebark QLD

Petan
 

From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> On Behalf Of Petan
Sent: Thursday, 28 June 2018 8:26 PM
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: [LRRSA] Irvinebark QLD

 

Irvinebark Tramway

QSA Series ID 17622 IID 114495 Irvinebank Tramway M.L. No 2575 No 1 1909 4MB (Track survey data) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mAmJD2t8OkNb5upfbiIq3V3NhpoCAeNc/view

QSA Series ID 17622 IID 114496 Irvinebank Tramway M.L. No 2575 No 2 1909 (32MB) (track survey data)  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dAKBCPswtcimoXT2eKrvRh5oiNOo0aOo/view

QSA Series ID 17622 IID 114497 Irvinebank Tramway M.L. No 2575 N0 3 1909 4MB (track survey data) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VTkaDHqVn3ckEtuEB19ODOu0kzEmr3vl/view

QSA Series ID 17624 IID 114721 Irvinebank Yard and works plan showing tramway service 1907 24MB (Town area) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q0VzVFXc_lwK9jlV8QALUQ8ZgiVG8HCe/view

QSA Series ID 17637 IID 328095 Plan of Irvinebank Company's Yard and Works Showing Tramway Service 1907 22MB (Town area) https://drive.google.com/file/d/13R4MfQs5LRBUvkeM6DbE1b3bAbJ-az6j/view

QSA Series ID 17637 IID 328100 Map of Irvinebank showing ML's MHL's RA's and Tramway No Date (8MB) town area https://drive.google.com/file/d/16OmMcrca1IjkonC4MV6f9HvK6WMKrX_f/view

 

The route of the Stannary Hills and Irvinebank mining tramways Nth QLD can be traced on the QSA Item ID 619133 topographical map scale 1.253 440 Atherton Tablelands1944 . Other Nth QLD QR and tramway lines are also on this map including Dimbulah, Silkwood, Cairns, Ravenshoe and part of the Mt Molloy line. Downloadable (8.5 MB) from my Google Drive and courtesy QLD State Archives Runcorn https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByB-ppGeDyvwZ3E1Q0IwN3MzcG8/view  

Dr Ruth Kerr’s (5MB file size) Irvinebank, Mining Community and Centre of an Empire "God Bless John Moffat” PDF https://espace.library.uq.edu.au/view/UQ:201589/s00855804_1984_12_1_141.pdf

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley

 


Re: Irvinebark QLD

Petan
 

Hi John,

They should be still available later this year as I have no intention of closing down my Google Drive site as it is too useful.

 

Everyone else on this LRRSA group, please note, same for any other railway item I have mentioned in the past. If not, send an email. I know Photobucket is a problem with its new owners which is why I swapped to Google Drive as a public download site for the maps etc I have acquired.

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley

 

From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> On Behalf Of John Dennis
Sent: Thursday, 28 June 2018 8:51 PM
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Irvinebark QLD

 

Hi Peter,

 

I am most interested in the Irvinebank maps, but have just left on a two month road trip. Will these files still be available in September? 

 

John

 

sent from my Sony Xperia

 

On Thu, 28 Jun 2018, 7:56 PM Petan <yahoomail@...> wrote:

Irvinebark Tramway

QSA Series ID 17622 IID 114495 Irvinebank Tramway M.L. No 2575 No 1 1909 4MB (Track survey data) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mAmJD2t8OkNb5upfbiIq3V3NhpoCAeNc/view

QSA Series ID 17622 IID 114496 Irvinebank Tramway M.L. No 2575 No 2 1909 (32MB) (track survey data)  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dAKBCPswtcimoXT2eKrvRh5oiNOo0aOo/view

QSA Series ID 17622 IID 114497 Irvinebank Tramway M.L. No 2575 N0 3 1909 4MB (track survey data) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VTkaDHqVn3ckEtuEB19ODOu0kzEmr3vl/view

QSA Series ID 17624 IID 114721 Irvinebank Yard and works plan showing tramway service 1907 24MB (Town area) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q0VzVFXc_lwK9jlV8QALUQ8ZgiVG8HCe/view

QSA Series ID 17637 IID 328095 Plan of Irvinebank Company's Yard and Works Showing Tramway Service 1907 22MB (Town area) https://drive.google.com/file/d/13R4MfQs5LRBUvkeM6DbE1b3bAbJ-az6j/view

QSA Series ID 17637 IID 328100 Map of Irvinebank showing ML's MHL's RA's and Tramway No Date (8MB) town area https://drive.google.com/file/d/16OmMcrca1IjkonC4MV6f9HvK6WMKrX_f/view

 

The route of the Stannary Hills and Irvinebank mining tramways Nth QLD can be traced on the QSA Item ID 619133 topographical map scale 1.253 440 Atherton Tablelands1944 . Other Nth QLD QR and tramway lines are also on this map including Dimbulah, Silkwood, Cairns, Ravenshoe and part of the Mt Molloy line. Downloadable (8.5 MB) from my Google Drive and courtesy QLD State Archives Runcorn https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByB-ppGeDyvwZ3E1Q0IwN3MzcG8/view  

Dr Ruth Kerr’s (5MB file size) Irvinebank, Mining Community and Centre of an Empire "God Bless John Moffat” PDF https://espace.library.uq.edu.au/view/UQ:201589/s00855804_1984_12_1_141.pdf

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley

 


Re: Irvinebark QLD

John Dennis
 

Hi Peter,

I am most interested in the Irvinebank maps, but have just left on a two month road trip. Will these files still be available in September? 

John


sent from my Sony Xperia


On Thu, 28 Jun 2018, 7:56 PM Petan <yahoomail@...> wrote:

Irvinebark Tramway

QSA Series ID 17622 IID 114495 Irvinebank Tramway M.L. No 2575 No 1 1909 4MB (Track survey data) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mAmJD2t8OkNb5upfbiIq3V3NhpoCAeNc/view

QSA Series ID 17622 IID 114496 Irvinebank Tramway M.L. No 2575 No 2 1909 (32MB) (track survey data)  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dAKBCPswtcimoXT2eKrvRh5oiNOo0aOo/view

QSA Series ID 17622 IID 114497 Irvinebank Tramway M.L. No 2575 N0 3 1909 4MB (track survey data) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VTkaDHqVn3ckEtuEB19ODOu0kzEmr3vl/view

QSA Series ID 17624 IID 114721 Irvinebank Yard and works plan showing tramway service 1907 24MB (Town area) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q0VzVFXc_lwK9jlV8QALUQ8ZgiVG8HCe/view

QSA Series ID 17637 IID 328095 Plan of Irvinebank Company's Yard and Works Showing Tramway Service 1907 22MB (Town area) https://drive.google.com/file/d/13R4MfQs5LRBUvkeM6DbE1b3bAbJ-az6j/view

QSA Series ID 17637 IID 328100 Map of Irvinebank showing ML's MHL's RA's and Tramway No Date (8MB) town area https://drive.google.com/file/d/16OmMcrca1IjkonC4MV6f9HvK6WMKrX_f/view

 

The route of the Stannary Hills and Irvinebank mining tramways Nth QLD can be traced on the QSA Item ID 619133 topographical map scale 1.253 440 Atherton Tablelands1944 . Other Nth QLD QR and tramway lines are also on this map including Dimbulah, Silkwood, Cairns, Ravenshoe and part of the Mt Molloy line. Downloadable (8.5 MB) from my Google Drive and courtesy QLD State Archives Runcorn https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByB-ppGeDyvwZ3E1Q0IwN3MzcG8/view  

Dr Ruth Kerr’s (5MB file size) Irvinebank, Mining Community and Centre of an Empire "God Bless John Moffat” PDF https://espace.library.uq.edu.au/view/UQ:201589/s00855804_1984_12_1_141.pdf

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley

 


Irvinebark QLD

Petan
 

Irvinebark Tramway

QSA Series ID 17622 IID 114495 Irvinebank Tramway M.L. No 2575 No 1 1909 4MB (Track survey data) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mAmJD2t8OkNb5upfbiIq3V3NhpoCAeNc/view

QSA Series ID 17622 IID 114496 Irvinebank Tramway M.L. No 2575 No 2 1909 (32MB) (track survey data)  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dAKBCPswtcimoXT2eKrvRh5oiNOo0aOo/view

QSA Series ID 17622 IID 114497 Irvinebank Tramway M.L. No 2575 N0 3 1909 4MB (track survey data) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VTkaDHqVn3ckEtuEB19ODOu0kzEmr3vl/view

QSA Series ID 17624 IID 114721 Irvinebank Yard and works plan showing tramway service 1907 24MB (Town area) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q0VzVFXc_lwK9jlV8QALUQ8ZgiVG8HCe/view

QSA Series ID 17637 IID 328095 Plan of Irvinebank Company's Yard and Works Showing Tramway Service 1907 22MB (Town area) https://drive.google.com/file/d/13R4MfQs5LRBUvkeM6DbE1b3bAbJ-az6j/view

QSA Series ID 17637 IID 328100 Map of Irvinebank showing ML's MHL's RA's and Tramway No Date (8MB) town area https://drive.google.com/file/d/16OmMcrca1IjkonC4MV6f9HvK6WMKrX_f/view

 

The route of the Stannary Hills and Irvinebank mining tramways Nth QLD can be traced on the QSA Item ID 619133 topographical map scale 1.253 440 Atherton Tablelands1944 . Other Nth QLD QR and tramway lines are also on this map including Dimbulah, Silkwood, Cairns, Ravenshoe and part of the Mt Molloy line. Downloadable (8.5 MB) from my Google Drive and courtesy QLD State Archives Runcorn https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByB-ppGeDyvwZ3E1Q0IwN3MzcG8/view  

Dr Ruth Kerr’s (5MB file size) Irvinebank, Mining Community and Centre of an Empire "God Bless John Moffat” PDF https://espace.library.uq.edu.au/view/UQ:201589/s00855804_1984_12_1_141.pdf

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley

 


Cooktown

P Cokley
 

Maps from QLD State Archives Runcorn

Cooktown railway wharf 1958? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1inE3GYjM3DZWV9bVxsKA96kR7LmvF5dc/view

Cooktown railway town area https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Y3HcDjJAjgPFazxz7ZuKBt3zAzAPO23K/view 

Cheers

Peter Cokley



Re: Locomotive Page change of address

Brad P
 

Hi John,
               Still a regularly used resource for me mate.

Brad

On Sat, 16 Jun. 2018, 11:54 John Cleverdon, <johnc@...> wrote:
Hello all,
As part of my upcoming move to the NBN and the change of Internet provider to Telstra (since I can no longer have separate phone and Net providers), I will lose my Chariot/TPG web page.

Therefore, my (new) Locomotive Page website is now at: https://johncleverdon.neocities.org/lp2.html
Note though that it has not been updated since 2014 or 2015.

Regards,
John
--
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Mornington Peninsula, Victoria, Australia
John's web page: https://johncleverdon.neocities.org/
LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/pub/john-cleverdon/a/a81/2b


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Locomotive Page change of address

John Cleverdon <johnc@...>
 

Hello all,
As part of my upcoming move to the NBN and the change of Internet provider to Telstra (since I can no longer have separate phone and Net providers), I will lose my Chariot/TPG web page.

Therefore, my (new) Locomotive Page website is now at: https://johncleverdon.neocities.org/lp2.html
Note though that it has not been updated since 2014 or 2015.

Regards,
John
--
John Cleverdon
Mornington Peninsula, Victoria, Australia
John's web page: https://johncleverdon.neocities.org/
LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/pub/john-cleverdon/a/a81/2b


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Congratulations are in order

David in Avenel
 

Found this news item in the latest Pakenham Gazette.


Re: Mystery narrow gauge

Geoff
 

Hunslet,


Delete all of the 'address' after; .au  

Then go to the site and copy " 10381/137270" into the search box. This will bring up the image.


Geoff.


Re: Mystery narrow gauge

Peter Evans
 

Melbourne, Victoria, Yarra Bank, post-1890, site of today's Hamer Hall, some sort of small engineering operation. I have been working on this one for a while but don't have all the details yet

Cheers,
PeterE.


Re: Mystery narrow gauge

Hunslet
 

Aaaah yes, that works.   Thanks.

Peter Neve

Junee

 

From: LRRSA@groups.io [mailto:LRRSA@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rod Hutchinson
Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2018 1:45 PM
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Mystery narrow gauge

 


http://handle.slv.vic.gov.au/10381/137270

 

This is the correct link.


Rod Hutchinson
Mooroolbark
Australia

 

On Thu, 14 Jun. 2018, 13:43 Hunslet, <hunslet@...> wrote:

Regretfully, the link doesn’t want to work!

Hunslet.

 

From: LRRSA@groups.io [mailto:LRRSA@groups.io] On Behalf Of Colin Harvey
Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2018 1:23 PM
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Mystery narrow gauge

 

Rod, it's a detail from this image http://handle.slv.vic.gov.au/10381/137270
of the south bank of the Yarra next to Princes Bridge - now the site of Hamer Hall.
Colin


Re: Mystery narrow gauge

Rod Hutchinson
 


http://handle.slv.vic.gov.au/10381/137270

This is the correct link.

Rod Hutchinson
Mooroolbark
Australia


On Thu, 14 Jun. 2018, 13:43 Hunslet, <hunslet@...> wrote:

Regretfully, the link doesn’t want to work!

Hunslet.

 

From: LRRSA@groups.io [mailto:LRRSA@groups.io] On Behalf Of Colin Harvey
Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2018 1:23 PM
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Mystery narrow gauge

 

Rod, it's a detail from this image http://handle.slv.vic.gov.au/10381/137270
of the south bank of the Yarra next to Princes Bridge - now the site of Hamer Hall.
Colin


Re: Mystery narrow gauge

Hunslet
 

Regretfully, the link doesn’t want to work!

Hunslet.

 

From: LRRSA@groups.io [mailto:LRRSA@groups.io] On Behalf Of Colin Harvey
Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2018 1:23 PM
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Mystery narrow gauge

 

Rod, it's a detail from this image http://handle.slv.vic.gov.au/10381/137270
of the south bank of the Yarra next to Princes Bridge - now the site of Hamer Hall.
Colin


Re: Mystery narrow gauge

Colin Harvey
 


Mystery narrow gauge

Roderick Smith
 

The facebook group Victorian Railway History (Australia) has had several
photos of light-railway interest recently.
Frank has responded to some of them there.
I am reposting, in the hopes of gaining extra knowledge here.
Perhaps some recognise the photo from publishing elsewhere?

VRH(A)-ng.mystery.jpg

They wagons could be mine skips.
There is no guarantee that this was Victoria.

Roderick.


Re: OFF-TOPIC UK photographs

Ian Pither <ian.pither35@...>
 

Many,many thanks for the pictures and all your work.
Ian (Germany)

On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 at 09:00, Michael C. via Groups.Io <chapmanmchapman=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Dear all,

Apologies for filling your inboxes again...

I've been taking photos again, this time of the two foot gauge Welsh Highland Heritage Railway in Porthmadog.

Take a look if you're interested.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157694097403672

Cheers,

Michael Chapman

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ smartphone



Re: "From the Bush to the Bungalow" 1924 film of timber tramway operations

Frank Stamford
 

Thanks for those interesting comments John.

In the early 1980s I had the privilege of interviewing Alf Milner at Yarra Junction, he was 79 at the time, and had worked with timber tramway horses in the 1920s and 1930s. He said he loved the horses, and from the way he spoke that was clearly true. He also said that the horses had one hour for lunch, but the men had 45 minutes. But because the lunch break was usually in some remote part of the forest he got an hour for lunch, as there wasn't much to do in the spare 15 minutes.

And it was clear from what he said that a great deal of skill was needed to control the loads in wet weather. He also described the way he modified the harnesses for each horse so that they fitted as comfortably as possible. And he said that the lead horse was always carefully selected to be the "brainy one".

Regards,
Frank


On 8 Jun 2018, at 3:45 pm, John Browning <ceo8@...> wrote:

Thanks Frank

The conditions appear to be hot and dusty.

It was interesting to see the driving technique – mostly braking I guess as the horses would be well motivated by the prospect of knock-off time and a good feed back at base.

John