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vale Noel Reed (b1931 - 19 Dec 2018)

Petan
 

Sydney Tramway Museum’s Facebook is reporting our LRRSA yahoogroup member Noel Reed has passed on.

"DEPOT ONLY” - vale Noel Reed (b1931 - 19 Dec 2018)

 

https://www.facebook.com/pg/SydneyTramwayMuseum/posts/?ref=page_internal

 

Peter Cokley


Gairloch Mill

John Browning
 

The Herbert River district was settled from about 1870 and a handful of prospective sugar planters began to develop properties such as Gairloch, Bemerside, and Macknade. Gairloch mill first crushed in 1872 and closed in 1886.

I have a little of the corporate history from published sources but there is not much in terms of detailed descriptions of operations apart from this account of 1882, before the ropeway. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article3409367

A photo of the manager’s house is here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:StateLibQld_1_159778_Gairloch_Sugar_Mill,_Ingham,_Queensland,_ca._1881.jpg 

 

It would be interested to know what happened to the aerial tramway after the closure of Gairloch when the plant was sold off. I assume the cane on the north side of the river then went to Ripple Creek Mill.

 

Best wishes

 

John

 


Gairloch Sugar Mill

PH
 

Hello,

I am researching a gentleman by the name of Oscar Schulze, who supplied the Bleichert Aerial Ropeway which was erected across the Herbert River in 1883 to the Gairloch Sugar Mill.

 

My Trove article from the Sydney Daily Telegraph of 22nd Oct 1883 says it was 2500 feet long with a 500 ft span across the river.

The only information I have been able to find is a mention made in a speech made by the Governor of Queensland when opening a bridge across the river at Gairloch 18th Mach 2014.

Does the LRRSA have any information on the Gairloch Sugar Mill, now defunct I believe? The local Historical Society has drawn a blank also...

Regards
Philip Hammon


Re: Perry 3' and 3'6" Locomotives

leon.franklin@...
 

I know this is an old topic, but from an old Pioneer Mill report on the history of the Pioneer railway and loco fleet the three Perry's were converted to 0-4-2 as they were "playing havoc with the track".
Excerpt from the report follows:

"Pioneer No.2 or 'Tiapan' and Kilrie were 15 ton, 2 wheel coupled, coal fired Perry locos bought second hand in 1949 from Mount Morgan. Neither of these Perrys had a bogie under the cab when put on the run. They developed a swinging, pitching motion which played havoc with the lines. The bogie from the small Kilrie loco was put under Kilrie and a new bogie was made for Pioneer No.2. One of our retired drivers advises that the 16 ton Klondyke loco also had to have a bogie made for it."

Hope this adds a bit more to the reasons behind the conversions.

Leon.


Molasses Wagons

Greg Stephenson
 


Subject: Molasses Wagons

 

G’day all 

 

I’ve been looking at photos and drawings of CSR molasses wagons used on 2foot gauge in Queensland and Fiji as a potential modelling project.

 

I was wondering how these wagons were unloaded as it is unclear from the resources I have to hand.  Was there some type of bottom discharge pipe with valve for unloading?

 

Best wishes

 

Greg Stephenson

Brisbane, Australia

 

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Light Railways 264

John Dennis
 

Apologies to all those who see this email twice, but I accidentally sent it via yahoo groups rather than to groups.io - thanks to Philip Graham for letting me know. 

Light Railways 264 - December 2018 - was handed over to Australia Post on Monday, so some of you may have already received it. This issues contents are:

The Torrumbarry Tramway, a journey (Vic)
End of an era, a driver’s perspective (Dreamworld, Qld)
Looking back (Mossman, Qld)
Industrial Railway News - 17 items from around Australia and Fiji
Field Reports - A.& D. Munro’s Cabarlah Tramway (Qld)
Letters - Beware up in the Dandenongs; The Cheetham Salt Chronicles – Part 6 (LR 263); WW1 Surplus and Memorialised Locomotives (H&T report LR 263)
Obituary - Arthur J Straffen
Heritage & Tourist News - 13 items from Australia, UK and USA

Delivery to members soon, available at you local newsagent shortly, or available in either paper or PDF form from the LRRSA online shop - go to http://lrrsa.org.au and follow the link.

John Dennis
LRRSA Sales


Photographs from Wales.

Michael C.
 

Dear all,

Members of the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway in Porthmadog, working with colleagues from the Ffestiniog & Welsh Highland Railway are pleased to announce the only surviving Welsh Highland Railway steam locomotive, ‘Russell’ built by the Hunslet Engine Company in 1906 will be running on a section of the original Welsh Highland Railway in 2019!
 
‘Russell’ successfully completed a gauging and inspection run on the 25th November along part of the original line of the Welsh Highland Railway. This represents the first time the locomotive has travelled along this section since 1937, when it was on its way to Dinas to be locked away at the closing of the line.
 
The run was made possible owing to the close working relationship between the two railways in preparation for ‘Russell’ to appear at a special event in 2019 to celebrate the heritage of the Welsh Highland Railway.
 
As part of the Welsh Highland Heritage Weekend between Friday 21st and Sunday 23rd June 2019 ‘Russell’ will be working between the replica 1920s WHR halt at Pen-y-mount, to Pont Croesor and on to Hafod y Llyn.
 
‘Russell’ ran on another section of the line in 2000 when it ran from Caernarfon to Waunfawr. This will be the first opportunity for it to stretch its legs with a longer run since it was restored in 2014 to as close as possible the condition as-built in 1906, at a cost of over £350,000 all covered by private donations.
 
Mark Seale from the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway is project-managing the joint event on behalf of the WHHR and said:
 
“It was important for us to make sure that Russell was fit and well before we made a final commitment to participating in the event. We are aware that many railway enthusiasts are very keen to see Russell running up the line and this is something that we ourselves have wished for, for some time. The inspection run went very well and we are very excited to be supporting the event; we believe that working together we can make a valuable contribution and make the event in June a spectacular weekend.
 
The primary goal for the inspection run was to ensure that Russell’s rather special design of pony truck and running gear will negotiate the curves of the re-instated railway and ensure that enough movement from the trucks is evident on the tightest curve. Whilst the inspection run took place Ffestiniog Railway engineers were invited to take a closer look at the locomotive. The locomotive team at the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway will now have the winter to prepare the locomotive.”
 
Graham Farr, the Chairman at the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway added:
 
“This is another important milestone in the evolving Welsh Highland Railway story. It demonstrates how ‘Russell’ operated by the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway in Porthmadog can be used to complement and support the further development of the re-instated railway.” 
 
Welsh Highland Heritage Railway members are looking forward to working with our Ffestiniog and Welsh Highland Railway colleagues. Hopefully this will be a first step and the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway looks forward to operating more heritage trains beyond our station at Pen-y-mount in the future. Watch this space…
 
Ffestiniog and Welsh Highland Railways General Manager Paul Lewin comments:

The 21st - 23rd of June will be THE narrow gauge event of the year. 2019 is looking like being an epic year for the Welsh Highland Railway 21 years on from the first trains running out of Caernarfon. Not only will we see the opening of two new stations we will also enjoy visiting locos that will go a long way toward recreating so many Welsh Highland heritage scenes of years gone by and some fascinating additional visitors too.
 
The first visiting loco we can announce following the successful test last weekend is NWNG locomotive Russell in the care of our friends at the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway. Keep a close eye on the press in coming months as we hope to announce further attractions for this long summer weekend.
 
I would like to add at this point that we have really enjoyed working with the team at WHHR on the technical tests. We are looking forward to sharing the pleasure of seeing Russell in action with our many supporters and friends. 

Photographs can be seen here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157676088464488

And if you'd like to see some amazing footage shot from a drone (not mine) visit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21UskbZFaL4

Cheers,

Michael Chapman


December Meetings

John Dennis
 

Light Railways 264 is in the hands of the printer. So people can make their plans the meeting details for December are here: http://lrrsa.org.au/LRR_Meetings.html

NOTE: The Melbourne meeting is at the Puffing Billy Museum at Menzies Creek on Wednesday December 12 at 7:30 
NOTE ALSO: There is no December meeting in Sydney.

John Dennis


Re: Narrow Gauge photographs.

David in Avenel
 

Fascinating collection of images Michael.   The KMR is in my backyard, not literally but not far away and I know Andrew and Jennifer quite well.

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Re: Narrow Gauge photographs.

Barry Sheffield
 

Michael,
 
What a wonderful collection of albumns ......you certainly fitted a lot into your stay here.....thanks for sharing
 
cheers,
Barry
 

From: Michael C. via Groups.Io
Sent: 22 October, 2018 5:42 AM
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Narrow Gauge photographs.
 
Dear all,
 
Further to the below email thread I am now back in the UK.
 
If you are interested I have uploaded several collections of images from my trips whilst in Australia.
 
The Pichi Richi Coffee Pot is here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157674155658238
 
The Pichi Richi Afghan Express is here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157701918241504
 
The National Railway Museum in Adelaide is here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157701960211954
 
The Kerrisdale Mountain Railway including the new steam locomotive is here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157674260740928
 
Puffing Billy's Menzies Creek museum is here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157672103510477
 
The Puffing Billy Climax trip can be seen here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157701980111534
 
The Q Train at Bellarine can be see here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157672126044237
 
Puffing Billy can be seen here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157674391476488
 
Take a look if you are interested.
 
Cheers,
 
Michael Chapman
 



-----Original Message-----
From: chapmanmchapman <chapmanmchapman@...>
To: LRRSA <LRRSA@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 14:29
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Pichi Richi photographs.

Dear all,
 
If you were interested in my photos from Pichi Richi, I have also uploaded a collection showing the Afghan Express service from Port Augusta to Quorn and some lineside photography too.
 
Take a look if you are interested:
 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157701918241504
 
Cheers,
 
Michael Chapman



-----Original Message-----
From: Michael C. via Groups.Io <chapmanmchapman@...>
To: lrrsa <lrrsa@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 0:28
Subject: [LRRSA] Narrow gauge bucket list.

Dear all,
 
At this point I would normally apologise for filling your inboxes with emails plugging photo albums on Flickr about a visit to a narrow gauge railway somewhere in the UK...
 
Today is no exception; however, today's album of images was captured on the 30th September at Quorn in South Australia when I travelled on the Pichi Richi Railway and the Coffee Pot.
 
I've known about this vehicle for over twenty years and it has been on my bucket list to see and do - mission accomplished - another one crossed off the list.
 
The carriage only seats 22 and books out well in advance; however, you get a train ride, welcome aboard drink, food, a photo run-past and a shed tour - it was awesome!
 
For more information visit: https://www.pichirichirailway.org.au/train-services/coffee-pot
 
My photos can be seen here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157674155658238

Take a look of you are interested.

Michael Chapman
Normally resident in West Yorkshire but currently in Melbourne - Climax trip at Puffing Billy tomorrow, but that's another story...

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Mapping and other updates

John Cleverdon <johnc@...>
 

Hello all,
Some updates and useful websites for mapping and similar information:
Regards,
John
--
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Mornington Peninsula, Victoria, Australia
John's web page: https://johncleverdon.neocities.org/
LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/pub/john-cleverdon/a/a81/2b




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Re: Narrow Gauge photographs.

Michael C.
 

Dear all,

Further to the below email thread I am now back in the UK.

If you are interested I have uploaded several collections of images from my trips whilst in Australia.

The Pichi Richi Coffee Pot is here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157674155658238

The Pichi Richi Afghan Express is here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157701918241504

The National Railway Museum in Adelaide is here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157701960211954

The Kerrisdale Mountain Railway including the new steam locomotive is here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157674260740928

Puffing Billy's Menzies Creek museum is here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157672103510477

The Puffing Billy Climax trip can be seen here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157701980111534

The Q Train at Bellarine can be see here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157672126044237

Puffing Billy can be seen here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157674391476488

Take a look if you are interested.

Cheers,

Michael Chapman




-----Original Message-----
From: chapmanmchapman <chapmanmchapman@...>
To: LRRSA <LRRSA@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 14:29
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Pichi Richi photographs.

Dear all,

If you were interested in my photos from Pichi Richi, I have also uploaded a collection showing the Afghan Express service from Port Augusta to Quorn and some lineside photography too.

Take a look if you are interested:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157701918241504

Cheers,

Michael Chapman



-----Original Message-----
From: Michael C. via Groups.Io <chapmanmchapman@...>
To: lrrsa <lrrsa@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 0:28
Subject: [LRRSA] Narrow gauge bucket list.

Dear all,

At this point I would normally apologise for filling your inboxes with emails plugging photo albums on Flickr about a visit to a narrow gauge railway somewhere in the UK...

Today is no exception; however, today's album of images was captured on the 30th September at Quorn in South Australia when I travelled on the Pichi Richi Railway and the Coffee Pot.

I've known about this vehicle for over twenty years and it has been on my bucket list to see and do - mission accomplished - another one crossed off the list.

The carriage only seats 22 and books out well in advance; however, you get a train ride, welcome aboard drink, food, a photo run-past and a shed tour - it was awesome!

For more information visit: https://www.pichirichirailway.org.au/train-services/coffee-pot

My photos can be seen here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157674155658238

Take a look of you are interested.

Michael Chapman
Normally resident in West Yorkshire but currently in Melbourne - Climax trip at Puffing Billy tomorrow, but that's another story...


Mt Disappointment Sawmilling Display 13 October 2018

Colin Harvey
 

The following event may be of interest to those in the vicinity of Wandong (Victoria) tomorrow. The display will include some items of light-railway interest.

This Saturday October 13th at the Wandong Public Hall, the Wandong History Group is holding an “Open Day" in conjunction with “History Week” with a history of “Sawmilling at Mt Disappointment”. View an exhibition of photos and a presentation put together by Len Lord of Whittlesea.
The Wandong Heathcote Junction Community Group is providing a sausage sizzle, and light refreshments will be available. Entry is by gold coin. The days event will run from 10.00am until
4.00pm. All Welcome.
 


Re: Pichi Richi photographs.

BM
 

Michael,

Fascinating images! Lots of intriguing desert landscapes that helped to give these images a special character that you will not find in Wales!

 

Best Wishes

Bob McKillop

 

From: LRRSA@groups.io [mailto:LRRSA@groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael C. via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, 8 October 2018 12:29 AM
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Pichi Richi photographs.

 

Dear all,

 

If you were interested in my photos from Pichi Richi, I have also uploaded a collection showing the Afghan Express service from Port Augusta to Quorn and some lineside photography too.

 

Take a look if you are interested:

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157701918241504

 

Cheers,

 

Michael Chapman



-----Original Message-----
From: Michael C. via Groups.Io <chapmanmchapman@...>
To: lrrsa <lrrsa@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 0:28
Subject: [LRRSA] Narrow gauge bucket list.

Dear all,

 

At this point I would normally apologise for filling your inboxes with emails plugging photo albums on Flickr about a visit to a narrow gauge railway somewhere in the UK...

 

Today is no exception; however, today's album of images was captured on the 30th September at Quorn in South Australia when I travelled on the Pichi Richi Railway and the Coffee Pot.

 

I've known about this vehicle for over twenty years and it has been on my bucket list to see and do - mission accomplished - another one crossed off the list.

 

The carriage only seats 22 and books out well in advance; however, you get a train ride, welcome aboard drink, food, a photo run-past and a shed tour - it was awesome!

 

For more information visit: https://www.pichirichirailway.org.au/train-services/coffee-pot

 

My photos can be seen here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157674155658238

 

Take a look of you are interested.

 

Michael Chapman

Normally resident in West Yorkshire but currently in Melbourne - Climax trip at Puffing Billy tomorrow, but that's another story...


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Re: Pichi Richi photographs.

Michael C.
 

Dear all,

If you were interested in my photos from Pichi Richi, I have also uploaded a collection showing the Afghan Express service from Port Augusta to Quorn and some lineside photography too.

Take a look if you are interested:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157701918241504

Cheers,

Michael Chapman



-----Original Message-----
From: Michael C. via Groups.Io <chapmanmchapman@...>
To: lrrsa <lrrsa@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 0:28
Subject: [LRRSA] Narrow gauge bucket list.

Dear all,

At this point I would normally apologise for filling your inboxes with emails plugging photo albums on Flickr about a visit to a narrow gauge railway somewhere in the UK...

Today is no exception; however, today's album of images was captured on the 30th September at Quorn in South Australia when I travelled on the Pichi Richi Railway and the Coffee Pot.

I've known about this vehicle for over twenty years and it has been on my bucket list to see and do - mission accomplished - another one crossed off the list.

The carriage only seats 22 and books out well in advance; however, you get a train ride, welcome aboard drink, food, a photo run-past and a shed tour - it was awesome!

For more information visit: https://www.pichirichirailway.org.au/train-services/coffee-pot

My photos can be seen here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157674155658238

Take a look of you are interested.

Michael Chapman
Normally resident in West Yorkshire but currently in Melbourne - Climax trip at Puffing Billy tomorrow, but that's another story...


Re: New uses for Sydney's disused rail tunnels

Terry
 

The postings about St. James made me reach for the ARHSnsw Track & Signal disk. As near as I can work out it was about 1500 feet from the end of the present platforms to the dead ends of the terminal storage roads mentioned by Eddie. In addition, there is still the wide vacant area between the two existing platforms that until a few years ago was two platforms without tracks, and then was filled in. To the south there is quite a length of unfinished tunnel that was an air raid shelter during WWII
Access into what is a "ticketed" area could be a problem for the bars.
Terry Boardman


Re: New uses for Sydney's disused rail tunnels

Mike Bickford
 

Hi Eddie,
 
Thanks for the correction, I had forgotten about the terminal road part to the north. Open to the operational lines to and from Circular Quay too.
It has been at least 15 years since I did a tour there one evening.
 
 
Mike Bickford
 

From: Eddie Oliver
Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2018 7:44 PM
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] New uses for Sydney's disused rail tunnels
 
On 6/10/2018 17:56, Mike Bickford wrote:
The tunnel to the north of St James Station is largely unfinished and half full of water so would need a lot of work to use now.

No, that only applies to the part beyond the uncleared rock wall. There is a full 8-car-plus length of double track tunnel immediately north of the station that was used for the two terminal roads.





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Re: New uses for Sydney's disused rail tunnels

Eddie Oliver
 

On 6/10/2018 17:56, Mike Bickford wrote:
The tunnel to the north of St James Station is largely unfinished and half full of water so would need a lot of work to use now.

No, that only applies to the part beyond the uncleared rock wall. There is a full 8-car-plus length of double track tunnel immediately north of the station that was used for the two terminal roads.





Re: New uses for Sydney's disused rail tunnels

Mike Bickford
 

The tunnel to the north of St James Station is largely unfinished and half full of water so would need a lot of work to use now.
The tunnels to the south of St James are more finished and include bomb shelter works from WW2.
The Northern Beaches line was to use the other side of the Bridge and diverge at North Sydney.
Bradfield’s proposed scheme was quite extensive, however as usual for NSW only some of it was built.
 
Mike Bickford
Murrumburrah
 

From: Kevin Sewell
Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2018 2:28 PM
To: LRRSA
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] New uses for Sydney's disused rail tunnels
 


On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 9:50 AM Eddie Oliver wrote:
At least this article does not contain the gross myth in most Sydney newspaper reports which claim that the missing tracks were to go to the northern beaches
 
 
Yeah - heard that one on the wireless talking box the other day, that the northern end of St James tunnels were the unbuilt link to the Northern Beaches. Nearly choked on my toast!!! It would have to be a rack railway as steep as Skitube to get from St James, down under the harbour and up to any of Nth Sydn, Cremorne Jn or Spit Jn!!!
Its distressing how little the general media know about anything to do with public transport, but even more distressing how little real research is done to establish facts before posting stories.
 

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Re: New uses for Sydney's disused rail tunnels

Kevin Sewell
 



On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 9:50 AM Eddie Oliver wrote:
At least this article does not contain the gross myth in most Sydney newspaper reports which claim that the missing tracks were to go to the northern beaches


Yeah - heard that one on the wireless talking box the other day, that the northern end of St James tunnels were the unbuilt link to the Northern Beaches. Nearly choked on my toast!!! It would have to be a rack railway as steep as Skitube to get from St James, down under the harbour and up to any of Nth Sydn, Cremorne Jn or Spit Jn!!!
Its distressing how little the general media know about anything to do with public transport, but even more distressing how little real research is done to establish facts before posting stories.