Date   
December Meetings

John Dennis
 

Light Railways 264 is in the hands of the printer. So people can make their plans the meeting details for December are here: http://lrrsa.org.au/LRR_Meetings.html

NOTE: The Melbourne meeting is at the Puffing Billy Museum at Menzies Creek on Wednesday December 12 at 7:30 
NOTE ALSO: There is no December meeting in Sydney.

John Dennis

Re: Narrow Gauge photographs.

David in Avenel
 

Fascinating collection of images Michael.   The KMR is in my backyard, not literally but not far away and I know Andrew and Jennifer quite well.

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cheers and best wishes,  
David in Avenel.au
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Re: Narrow Gauge photographs.

Barry Sheffield
 

Michael,
 
What a wonderful collection of albumns ......you certainly fitted a lot into your stay here.....thanks for sharing
 
cheers,
Barry
 

From: Michael C. via Groups.Io
Sent: 22 October, 2018 5:42 AM
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Narrow Gauge photographs.
 
Dear all,
 
Further to the below email thread I am now back in the UK.
 
If you are interested I have uploaded several collections of images from my trips whilst in Australia.
 
The Pichi Richi Coffee Pot is here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157674155658238
 
The Pichi Richi Afghan Express is here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157701918241504
 
The National Railway Museum in Adelaide is here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157701960211954
 
The Kerrisdale Mountain Railway including the new steam locomotive is here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157674260740928
 
Puffing Billy's Menzies Creek museum is here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157672103510477
 
The Puffing Billy Climax trip can be seen here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157701980111534
 
The Q Train at Bellarine can be see here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157672126044237
 
Puffing Billy can be seen here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157674391476488
 
Take a look if you are interested.
 
Cheers,
 
Michael Chapman
 



-----Original Message-----
From: chapmanmchapman <chapmanmchapman@...>
To: LRRSA <LRRSA@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 14:29
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Pichi Richi photographs.

Dear all,
 
If you were interested in my photos from Pichi Richi, I have also uploaded a collection showing the Afghan Express service from Port Augusta to Quorn and some lineside photography too.
 
Take a look if you are interested:
 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157701918241504
 
Cheers,
 
Michael Chapman



-----Original Message-----
From: Michael C. via Groups.Io <chapmanmchapman@...>
To: lrrsa <lrrsa@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 0:28
Subject: [LRRSA] Narrow gauge bucket list.

Dear all,
 
At this point I would normally apologise for filling your inboxes with emails plugging photo albums on Flickr about a visit to a narrow gauge railway somewhere in the UK...
 
Today is no exception; however, today's album of images was captured on the 30th September at Quorn in South Australia when I travelled on the Pichi Richi Railway and the Coffee Pot.
 
I've known about this vehicle for over twenty years and it has been on my bucket list to see and do - mission accomplished - another one crossed off the list.
 
The carriage only seats 22 and books out well in advance; however, you get a train ride, welcome aboard drink, food, a photo run-past and a shed tour - it was awesome!
 
For more information visit: https://www.pichirichirailway.org.au/train-services/coffee-pot
 
My photos can be seen here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157674155658238

Take a look of you are interested.

Michael Chapman
Normally resident in West Yorkshire but currently in Melbourne - Climax trip at Puffing Billy tomorrow, but that's another story...

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Mapping and other updates

John Cleverdon <johnc@...>
 

Hello all,
Some updates and useful websites for mapping and similar information:
Regards,
John
--
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Mornington Peninsula, Victoria, Australia
John's web page: https://johncleverdon.neocities.org/
LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/pub/john-cleverdon/a/a81/2b




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Re: Narrow Gauge photographs.

Michael C.
 

Dear all,

Further to the below email thread I am now back in the UK.

If you are interested I have uploaded several collections of images from my trips whilst in Australia.

The Pichi Richi Coffee Pot is here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157674155658238

The Pichi Richi Afghan Express is here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157701918241504

The National Railway Museum in Adelaide is here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157701960211954

The Kerrisdale Mountain Railway including the new steam locomotive is here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157674260740928

Puffing Billy's Menzies Creek museum is here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157672103510477

The Puffing Billy Climax trip can be seen here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157701980111534

The Q Train at Bellarine can be see here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157672126044237

Puffing Billy can be seen here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157674391476488

Take a look if you are interested.

Cheers,

Michael Chapman




-----Original Message-----
From: chapmanmchapman <chapmanmchapman@...>
To: LRRSA <LRRSA@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 14:29
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Pichi Richi photographs.

Dear all,

If you were interested in my photos from Pichi Richi, I have also uploaded a collection showing the Afghan Express service from Port Augusta to Quorn and some lineside photography too.

Take a look if you are interested:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157701918241504

Cheers,

Michael Chapman



-----Original Message-----
From: Michael C. via Groups.Io <chapmanmchapman@...>
To: lrrsa <lrrsa@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 0:28
Subject: [LRRSA] Narrow gauge bucket list.

Dear all,

At this point I would normally apologise for filling your inboxes with emails plugging photo albums on Flickr about a visit to a narrow gauge railway somewhere in the UK...

Today is no exception; however, today's album of images was captured on the 30th September at Quorn in South Australia when I travelled on the Pichi Richi Railway and the Coffee Pot.

I've known about this vehicle for over twenty years and it has been on my bucket list to see and do - mission accomplished - another one crossed off the list.

The carriage only seats 22 and books out well in advance; however, you get a train ride, welcome aboard drink, food, a photo run-past and a shed tour - it was awesome!

For more information visit: https://www.pichirichirailway.org.au/train-services/coffee-pot

My photos can be seen here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157674155658238

Take a look of you are interested.

Michael Chapman
Normally resident in West Yorkshire but currently in Melbourne - Climax trip at Puffing Billy tomorrow, but that's another story...

Mt Disappointment Sawmilling Display 13 October 2018

Colin Harvey
 

The following event may be of interest to those in the vicinity of Wandong (Victoria) tomorrow. The display will include some items of light-railway interest.

This Saturday October 13th at the Wandong Public Hall, the Wandong History Group is holding an “Open Day" in conjunction with “History Week” with a history of “Sawmilling at Mt Disappointment”. View an exhibition of photos and a presentation put together by Len Lord of Whittlesea.
The Wandong Heathcote Junction Community Group is providing a sausage sizzle, and light refreshments will be available. Entry is by gold coin. The days event will run from 10.00am until
4.00pm. All Welcome.
 

Re: Pichi Richi photographs.

BM
 

Michael,

Fascinating images! Lots of intriguing desert landscapes that helped to give these images a special character that you will not find in Wales!

 

Best Wishes

Bob McKillop

 

From: LRRSA@groups.io [mailto:LRRSA@groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael C. via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, 8 October 2018 12:29 AM
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Pichi Richi photographs.

 

Dear all,

 

If you were interested in my photos from Pichi Richi, I have also uploaded a collection showing the Afghan Express service from Port Augusta to Quorn and some lineside photography too.

 

Take a look if you are interested:

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157701918241504

 

Cheers,

 

Michael Chapman



-----Original Message-----
From: Michael C. via Groups.Io <chapmanmchapman@...>
To: lrrsa <lrrsa@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 0:28
Subject: [LRRSA] Narrow gauge bucket list.

Dear all,

 

At this point I would normally apologise for filling your inboxes with emails plugging photo albums on Flickr about a visit to a narrow gauge railway somewhere in the UK...

 

Today is no exception; however, today's album of images was captured on the 30th September at Quorn in South Australia when I travelled on the Pichi Richi Railway and the Coffee Pot.

 

I've known about this vehicle for over twenty years and it has been on my bucket list to see and do - mission accomplished - another one crossed off the list.

 

The carriage only seats 22 and books out well in advance; however, you get a train ride, welcome aboard drink, food, a photo run-past and a shed tour - it was awesome!

 

For more information visit: https://www.pichirichirailway.org.au/train-services/coffee-pot

 

My photos can be seen here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157674155658238

 

Take a look of you are interested.

 

Michael Chapman

Normally resident in West Yorkshire but currently in Melbourne - Climax trip at Puffing Billy tomorrow, but that's another story...


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Re: Pichi Richi photographs.

Michael C.
 

Dear all,

If you were interested in my photos from Pichi Richi, I have also uploaded a collection showing the Afghan Express service from Port Augusta to Quorn and some lineside photography too.

Take a look if you are interested:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157701918241504

Cheers,

Michael Chapman



-----Original Message-----
From: Michael C. via Groups.Io <chapmanmchapman@...>
To: lrrsa <lrrsa@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 0:28
Subject: [LRRSA] Narrow gauge bucket list.

Dear all,

At this point I would normally apologise for filling your inboxes with emails plugging photo albums on Flickr about a visit to a narrow gauge railway somewhere in the UK...

Today is no exception; however, today's album of images was captured on the 30th September at Quorn in South Australia when I travelled on the Pichi Richi Railway and the Coffee Pot.

I've known about this vehicle for over twenty years and it has been on my bucket list to see and do - mission accomplished - another one crossed off the list.

The carriage only seats 22 and books out well in advance; however, you get a train ride, welcome aboard drink, food, a photo run-past and a shed tour - it was awesome!

For more information visit: https://www.pichirichirailway.org.au/train-services/coffee-pot

My photos can be seen here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157674155658238

Take a look of you are interested.

Michael Chapman
Normally resident in West Yorkshire but currently in Melbourne - Climax trip at Puffing Billy tomorrow, but that's another story...

Re: New uses for Sydney's disused rail tunnels

Terry
 

The postings about St. James made me reach for the ARHSnsw Track & Signal disk. As near as I can work out it was about 1500 feet from the end of the present platforms to the dead ends of the terminal storage roads mentioned by Eddie. In addition, there is still the wide vacant area between the two existing platforms that until a few years ago was two platforms without tracks, and then was filled in. To the south there is quite a length of unfinished tunnel that was an air raid shelter during WWII
Access into what is a "ticketed" area could be a problem for the bars.
Terry Boardman

Re: New uses for Sydney's disused rail tunnels

Mike Bickford
 

Hi Eddie,
 
Thanks for the correction, I had forgotten about the terminal road part to the north. Open to the operational lines to and from Circular Quay too.
It has been at least 15 years since I did a tour there one evening.
 
 
Mike Bickford
 

From: Eddie Oliver
Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2018 7:44 PM
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] New uses for Sydney's disused rail tunnels
 
On 6/10/2018 17:56, Mike Bickford wrote:
The tunnel to the north of St James Station is largely unfinished and half full of water so would need a lot of work to use now.

No, that only applies to the part beyond the uncleared rock wall. There is a full 8-car-plus length of double track tunnel immediately north of the station that was used for the two terminal roads.





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Re: New uses for Sydney's disused rail tunnels

Eddie Oliver
 

On 6/10/2018 17:56, Mike Bickford wrote:
The tunnel to the north of St James Station is largely unfinished and half full of water so would need a lot of work to use now.

No, that only applies to the part beyond the uncleared rock wall. There is a full 8-car-plus length of double track tunnel immediately north of the station that was used for the two terminal roads.




Re: New uses for Sydney's disused rail tunnels

Mike Bickford
 

The tunnel to the north of St James Station is largely unfinished and half full of water so would need a lot of work to use now.
The tunnels to the south of St James are more finished and include bomb shelter works from WW2.
The Northern Beaches line was to use the other side of the Bridge and diverge at North Sydney.
Bradfield’s proposed scheme was quite extensive, however as usual for NSW only some of it was built.
 
Mike Bickford
Murrumburrah
 

From: Kevin Sewell
Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2018 2:28 PM
To: LRRSA
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] New uses for Sydney's disused rail tunnels
 


On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 9:50 AM Eddie Oliver wrote:
At least this article does not contain the gross myth in most Sydney newspaper reports which claim that the missing tracks were to go to the northern beaches
 
 
Yeah - heard that one on the wireless talking box the other day, that the northern end of St James tunnels were the unbuilt link to the Northern Beaches. Nearly choked on my toast!!! It would have to be a rack railway as steep as Skitube to get from St James, down under the harbour and up to any of Nth Sydn, Cremorne Jn or Spit Jn!!!
Its distressing how little the general media know about anything to do with public transport, but even more distressing how little real research is done to establish facts before posting stories.
 

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Re: New uses for Sydney's disused rail tunnels

Kevin Sewell
 



On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 9:50 AM Eddie Oliver wrote:
At least this article does not contain the gross myth in most Sydney newspaper reports which claim that the missing tracks were to go to the northern beaches


Yeah - heard that one on the wireless talking box the other day, that the northern end of St James tunnels were the unbuilt link to the Northern Beaches. Nearly choked on my toast!!! It would have to be a rack railway as steep as Skitube to get from St James, down under the harbour and up to any of Nth Sydn, Cremorne Jn or Spit Jn!!!
Its distressing how little the general media know about anything to do with public transport, but even more distressing how little real research is done to establish facts before posting stories.

Re: New uses for Sydney's disused rail tunnels

Eddie Oliver
 

On 6/10/2018 09:43, John Cleverdon wrote:
Hello all,
A little OT but this may be of interest to some of you; from the Urban Developer email list during the week:
https://theurbandeveloper.com/articles/secret-tunnels-provide-sydney-development-opportunity

At least this article does not contain the gross myth in most Sydney newspaper reports which claim that the missing tracks were to go to the northern beaches


New uses for Sydney's disused rail tunnels

John Cleverdon <johnc@...>
 

Hello all,
A little OT but this may be of interest to some of you; from the Urban Developer email list during the week:
https://theurbandeveloper.com/articles/secret-tunnels-provide-sydney-development-opportunity

Regards,
John
--
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Mornington Peninsula, Victoria, Australia
John's web page: https://johncleverdon.neocities.org/
LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/pub/john-cleverdon/a/a81/2b


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Narrow gauge bucket list.

Michael C.
 

Dear all,

At this point I would normally apologise for filling your inboxes with emails plugging photo albums on Flickr about a visit to a narrow gauge railway somewhere in the UK...

Today is no exception; however, today's album of images was captured on the 30th September at Quorn in South Australia when I travelled on the Pichi Richi Railway and the Coffee Pot.

I've known about this vehicle for over twenty years and it has been on my bucket list to see and do - mission accomplished - another one crossed off the list.

The carriage only seats 22 and books out well in advance; however, you get a train ride, welcome aboard drink, food, a photo run-past and a shed tour - it was awesome!

For more information visit: https://www.pichirichirailway.org.au/train-services/coffee-pot

My photos can be seen here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157674155658238

Take a look of you are interested.

Michael Chapman
Normally resident in West Yorkshire but currently in Melbourne - Climax trip at Puffing Billy tomorrow, but that's another story...

Light Railways 263

John Dennis
 

All,

Light Railways 263 (October 2018) was packed last night, and is now in the hands of Oz Post. With luck and a trailing wind members should begin to receive the magazine, and the four inserts so carefully added, early next week. 

The feature article is part 6 of the long running "Cheetham Chronicles". Peter Evans is continuing Norm Houghton's work, describing the salt tramways at Moolap and Laverton in Victoria. Part 5 of this series appeared way back in April 1993, issue 120, back in the "small format" days.

For non-members the magazine will be available at your newsagent, or online from lrrsa.org.au via the online shop, in both printed and PDF form

John 

Re: NSW Historical Land Records Viewer

Iain
 

Peter and others,

 

This feature was removed – in my view in violation of the terms of sale. The Royal Australian Historical Society, of which I am a councillor, is pursuing this but I am not sure how much headway we are making. Other societies and individuals also need to complain to the Government and to those running the now privatised Land Titles Office. My understanding is that they have also closed the basement search room.

 

Cheers    

 

Dr Iain Stuart

 

JCIS Consultants

P.O. Box 2397

Burwood North

NSW 2134

Australia

 

(02) 97010191

Iain_Stuart@...

 

From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> On Behalf Of Petan
Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2018 4:14 PM
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: [LRRSA] NSW Historical Land Records Viewer

 

As I assume, like me, you may also occasionally make use of maps printed off the following NSW government website, the following may be of interest. Anyone know of a work around for this, please?

 

http://www.nswlrs.com.au/about_nswlrs/announcements/changes_to_historical_land_records_viewer

 

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley

 

Changes to Historical Land Records Viewer

NSW LRS has published a corrected version of the Terms and Conditions for use of the Historical Land Records Viewer (HLRV) to align with the Terms and Conditions delegated to NSW LRS through the concession arrangements from 1 July 2017.

NSW LRS has also recently made changes to the HLRV system. The print and save function has been removed from the HLRV to align with the corrected version of the Terms and Conditions.

NSW LRS apologises for any confusion regarding the Terms and Conditions for the HLRV.

For further information please contact us.

 

NSW Historical Land Records Viewer

Petan
 

As I assume, like me, you may also occasionally make use of maps printed off the following NSW government website, the following may be of interest. Anyone know of a work around for this, please?

 

http://www.nswlrs.com.au/about_nswlrs/announcements/changes_to_historical_land_records_viewer

 

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley

 

Changes to Historical Land Records Viewer

NSW LRS has published a corrected version of the Terms and Conditions for use of the Historical Land Records Viewer (HLRV) to align with the Terms and Conditions delegated to NSW LRS through the concession arrangements from 1 July 2017.

NSW LRS has also recently made changes to the HLRV system. The print and save function has been removed from the HLRV to align with the corrected version of the Terms and Conditions.

NSW LRS apologises for any confusion regarding the Terms and Conditions for the HLRV.

For further information please contact us.

 

Re: QR closed lines 1955

Petan
 

More about long closed government lines, this 1936 extract from the Commissioners Report includes the Cooktown, Ravenshoe and the Gulf individual totals.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kLWD06d0HIYZD-TBbpdAqd9I3SYquq7m/view  

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley

 

From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> On Behalf Of Petan
Sent: Monday, 17 September 2018 11:17 AM
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: [LRRSA] QR closed lines 1955

 

Some here research long closed government lines so I offer 1955 Tweed, Canungra (last year), Beaudesert, Cleveland (closed 1960 steam era line) and Ipswich lines (still open as rebuilt electric) plus Tivoli branch data from QLD Commissioner for Railways 1955 Annual Report.

Cheers Peter Cokley

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mwhXJLQ2fSAq0c--iudFlSUWTfj6ZJve/view