Date   
Re: John Kerr's QLD notes

Greg Stephenson
 

G’day all

These comments do raise the question to me of how will researchers of the future deal with records from the current era where many records are kept electronically.

I know I’ve never been that rigorous in how I store my digital images compared to my slides. It strikes me that every time a program is upgraded or current technology changes things get lost. Who can read a floppy disc now and I had to get an external DVD reader for my work computer.

I remember a comment about oral histories of engineers being recorded and someone asked are we archiving a machine to be able access the recording when technology changes.  

At least I can read 100 year old printed books - only problem is when they are in a language I don’t understand! Maybe the modern equivalent is incompatible software languages! 🙄

One at least hopes that Government Archives at least have some rigour in record keeping and commit to keeping the data available and compatible with the future technology.

Regards

Greg Stephenson
Brisbane, Australia

Get Outlook for iOS


From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> on behalf of Bob Thornton via Groups.Io <rjt_46@...>
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 7:20:02 AM
To: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] John Kerr's QLD notes
 
G'day Lynn,

 I run a virtual machine using VirtualBox for these situations, to run any flavour of windoze necessary for the job.

If you are running an esoteric system, install Linux Mint in an old box or laptop to achieve the same ends.  All at zero cost... :)

Bob Thornton
Skipton AU

Re: John Kerr's QLD notes

Chris Stratton
 

You still need a valid copy of Windows to install with VirtualBox

Regards,
CS



----- Original Message -----
From:
LRRSA@groups.io

To:
<LRRSA@groups.io>
Cc:

Sent:
Thu, 10 Oct 2019 14:20:02 -0700
Subject:
Re: [LRRSA] John Kerr's QLD notes


G'day Lynn,

 I run a virtual machine using VirtualBox for these situations, to run any flavour of windoze necessary for the job.

If you are running an esoteric system, install Linux Mint in an old box or laptop to achieve the same ends.  All at zero cost... :)

Bob Thornton
Skipton AU

Email sent using Optus Webmail

Re: John Kerr's QLD notes

Bob Thornton
 

G'day Lynn,

 I run a virtual machine using VirtualBox for these situations, to run any flavour of windoze necessary for the job.

If you are running an esoteric system, install Linux Mint in an old box or laptop to achieve the same ends.  All at zero cost... :)

Bob Thornton
Skipton AU

Re: John Kerr's QLD notes

David Halfpenny
 

Bum!

I’ve downloaded it anyway, and will see if I can find a discarded laptop in my kids’ sty.

Another Warning: While the compressed file is only 254Mb, it unzips to a total of 1.21Gb.

David 1/2d

On 10 Oct 2019, at 02:07, A C Lynn Zelmer <lynn@...> wrote:

Unfortunately the data is only accessible using a Windows-based computer.
   :-(
Ciao, Lynn

On 9/10/19 9:38 am, Petan wrote:

Warning; following is around 254MB file size so huge, so download when you have cheaper internet rates. John Kerr’s database of QLD rail transport, including industrial tramways, up to his 2003 death, is on the public internet through Fryer Library at The University of Queensland. The other online version at the State Library QLD is only up to about the 1970s. This has been on that public site for a few months now.

https://researchdata.ands.org.au/john-douglas-kerr-history-database/1326079?source=suggested_datasets

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley

 
 


-- 
Lynn Zelmer
Box 1414 Main Post Office
Rockhampton, QLD 4700 AUSTRALIA

Re: John Kerr's QLD notes

A C Lynn Zelmer
 

Unfortunately the data is only accessible using a Windows-based computer.
   :-(
Ciao, Lynn

On 9/10/19 9:38 am, Petan wrote:

Warning; following is around 254MB file size so huge, so download when you have cheaper internet rates. John Kerr’s database of QLD rail transport, including industrial tramways, up to his 2003 death, is on the public internet through Fryer Library at The University of Queensland. The other online version at the State Library QLD is only up to about the 1970s. This has been on that public site for a few months now.

https://researchdata.ands.org.au/john-douglas-kerr-history-database/1326079?source=suggested_datasets

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley

 

 


-- 
Lynn Zelmer
Box 1414 Main Post Office
Rockhampton, QLD 4700 AUSTRALIA

John Kerr's QLD notes

Petan
 

Warning; following is around 254MB file size so huge, so download when you have cheaper internet rates. John Kerr’s database of QLD rail transport, including industrial tramways, up to his 2003 death, is on the public internet through Fryer Library at The University of Queensland. The other online version at the State Library QLD is only up to about the 1970s. This has been on that public site for a few months now.

https://researchdata.ands.org.au/john-douglas-kerr-history-database/1326079?source=suggested_datasets

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley

 

 

Re: Rails to Rubicon book - second edition pre-publication offer

Grant Maloney
 

Hi
all good and ordered. thanks again
Grant


From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> on behalf of Frank Stamford <frank.stamford@...>
Sent: Thursday, 3 October 2019 9:31 AM
To: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Rails to Rubicon book - second edition pre-publication offer
 

Hello Grant,

You probably came into the Online Shop without seeing the front page, which has a paragraph on member's discounts:


When you place your first order you will be charged the normal price. We will then give you a credit on your credit card to allow the discount. All subsequent orders will be automatically priced with the LRRSA members’ discounts applied. 


So you will get the discount, as a credit on your credit card account. And for any future orders you place you will automatically get the discount. The problem is the online shop does not know that you are a member at the time of your first order, we have to tell it you are a member!

Regards,
Frank


On 3/10/2019 9:07 am, Grant Maloney wrote:
Hi John,
I think I have worked it out.
I am just wondering how I get the member price for the item?
It is sitting in my cart at the non member price.
I think the pre release amount should be $29.70 for members.
Any guidance would be appreciated and thanks for your help .

Regards 
Grant

From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> on behalf of John Dennis <jdennis412@...>
Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2019 9:59 PM
To: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Rails to Rubicon book - second edition pre-publication offer
 
Grant,

I have sent you an email from the lrrsa.sales account - at the second attempt. Please let me know if you haven't received it.

John

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 21:41, Grant Maloney <Oldcamera12@...> wrote:
Thanks,
how do we do it?


From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> on behalf of John Dennis <jdennis412@...>
Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2019 9:25 PM
To: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Rails to Rubicon book - second edition pre-publication offer
 
I will help Grant offline.

John

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 21:19, Grant Maloney <Oldcamera12@...> wrote:
hi,
am attempting to buy this item.
have registered but no go.
I am member,
How do I buy the product?
It seems I am not authorised??
Thanks for your help
Grant



Re: Rails to Rubicon book - second edition pre-publication offer

Frank Stamford
 


Hello Grant,

You probably came into the Online Shop without seeing the front page, which has a paragraph on member's discounts:


When you place your first order you will be charged the normal price. We will then give you a credit on your credit card to allow the discount. All subsequent orders will be automatically priced with the LRRSA members’ discounts applied. 


So you will get the discount, as a credit on your credit card account. And for any future orders you place you will automatically get the discount. The problem is the online shop does not know that you are a member at the time of your first order, we have to tell it you are a member!

Regards,
Frank


On 3/10/2019 9:07 am, Grant Maloney wrote:
Hi John,
I think I have worked it out.
I am just wondering how I get the member price for the item?
It is sitting in my cart at the non member price.
I think the pre release amount should be $29.70 for members.
Any guidance would be appreciated and thanks for your help .

Regards 
Grant

From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> on behalf of John Dennis <jdennis412@...>
Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2019 9:59 PM
To: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Rails to Rubicon book - second edition pre-publication offer
 
Grant,

I have sent you an email from the lrrsa.sales account - at the second attempt. Please let me know if you haven't received it.

John

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 21:41, Grant Maloney <Oldcamera12@...> wrote:
Thanks,
how do we do it?


From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> on behalf of John Dennis <jdennis412@...>
Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2019 9:25 PM
To: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Rails to Rubicon book - second edition pre-publication offer
 
I will help Grant offline.

John

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 21:19, Grant Maloney <Oldcamera12@...> wrote:
hi,
am attempting to buy this item.
have registered but no go.
I am member,
How do I buy the product?
It seems I am not authorised??
Thanks for your help
Grant



Re: Rails to Rubicon book - second edition pre-publication offer

Grant Maloney
 

Hi John,
I think I have worked it out.
I am just wondering how I get the member price for the item?
It is sitting in my cart at the non member price.
I think the pre release amount should be $29.70 for members.
Any guidance would be appreciated and thanks for your help .

Regards 
Grant


From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> on behalf of John Dennis <jdennis412@...>
Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2019 9:59 PM
To: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Rails to Rubicon book - second edition pre-publication offer
 
Grant,

I have sent you an email from the lrrsa.sales account - at the second attempt. Please let me know if you haven't received it.

John

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 21:41, Grant Maloney <Oldcamera12@...> wrote:
Thanks,
how do we do it?


From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> on behalf of John Dennis <jdennis412@...>
Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2019 9:25 PM
To: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Rails to Rubicon book - second edition pre-publication offer
 
I will help Grant offline.

John

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 21:19, Grant Maloney <Oldcamera12@...> wrote:
hi,
am attempting to buy this item.
have registered but no go.
I am member,
How do I buy the product?
It seems I am not authorised??
Thanks for your help
Grant


From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> on behalf of Frank Stamford <frank.stamford@...>
Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2019 7:12 PM
To: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io>
Subject: [LRRSA] Rails to Rubicon book - second edition pre-publication offer
 
Pre-publication orders for the second edition of the book "Rails to Rubicon" by Peter Evans, are now being taken. The pre-publication price is $39.60 ($29.70 to LRRSA members). This special price will apply until 31 October this year.

After that the normal price will be $49.50; ($37.13 to LRRSA members).

The book has 200 pages, a hard cover, and over 240 illustrations. It is a comprehensive history of the 2 ft, 3 ft and 3 ft 4-1/2 inch gauge tramways of Victoria's Rubicon Forest, and the connecting tramway to Alexandra.
The book is expected to be available by the end of November.

Orders may be placed here:https://shop.lrrsa.org.au/Rails-to-Rubicon
 

Here are a few sample pages.
Please feel free to share this with others!

Re: Rails to Rubicon book - second edition pre-publication offer

John Dennis
 

Grant,

I have sent you an email from the lrrsa.sales account - at the second attempt. Please let me know if you haven't received it.

John

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 21:41, Grant Maloney <Oldcamera12@...> wrote:
Thanks,
how do we do it?


From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> on behalf of John Dennis <jdennis412@...>
Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2019 9:25 PM
To: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Rails to Rubicon book - second edition pre-publication offer
 
I will help Grant offline.

John

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 21:19, Grant Maloney <Oldcamera12@...> wrote:
hi,
am attempting to buy this item.
have registered but no go.
I am member,
How do I buy the product?
It seems I am not authorised??
Thanks for your help
Grant


From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> on behalf of Frank Stamford <frank.stamford@...>
Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2019 7:12 PM
To: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io>
Subject: [LRRSA] Rails to Rubicon book - second edition pre-publication offer
 
Pre-publication orders for the second edition of the book "Rails to Rubicon" by Peter Evans, are now being taken. The pre-publication price is $39.60 ($29.70 to LRRSA members). This special price will apply until 31 October this year.

After that the normal price will be $49.50; ($37.13 to LRRSA members).

The book has 200 pages, a hard cover, and over 240 illustrations. It is a comprehensive history of the 2 ft, 3 ft and 3 ft 4-1/2 inch gauge tramways of Victoria's Rubicon Forest, and the connecting tramway to Alexandra.
The book is expected to be available by the end of November.

Orders may be placed here:https://shop.lrrsa.org.au/Rails-to-Rubicon
 

Here are a few sample pages.
Please feel free to share this with others!

Re: Rails to Rubicon book - second edition pre-publication offer

Grant Maloney
 

Thanks,
how do we do it?


From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> on behalf of John Dennis <jdennis412@...>
Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2019 9:25 PM
To: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Rails to Rubicon book - second edition pre-publication offer
 
I will help Grant offline.

John

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 21:19, Grant Maloney <Oldcamera12@...> wrote:
hi,
am attempting to buy this item.
have registered but no go.
I am member,
How do I buy the product?
It seems I am not authorised??
Thanks for your help
Grant


From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> on behalf of Frank Stamford <frank.stamford@...>
Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2019 7:12 PM
To: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io>
Subject: [LRRSA] Rails to Rubicon book - second edition pre-publication offer
 
Pre-publication orders for the second edition of the book "Rails to Rubicon" by Peter Evans, are now being taken. The pre-publication price is $39.60 ($29.70 to LRRSA members). This special price will apply until 31 October this year.

After that the normal price will be $49.50; ($37.13 to LRRSA members).

The book has 200 pages, a hard cover, and over 240 illustrations. It is a comprehensive history of the 2 ft, 3 ft and 3 ft 4-1/2 inch gauge tramways of Victoria's Rubicon Forest, and the connecting tramway to Alexandra.
The book is expected to be available by the end of November.

Orders may be placed here:https://shop.lrrsa.org.au/Rails-to-Rubicon
 

Here are a few sample pages.
Please feel free to share this with others!

Re: Rails to Rubicon book - second edition pre-publication offer

John Dennis
 

I will help Grant offline.

John

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 21:19, Grant Maloney <Oldcamera12@...> wrote:
hi,
am attempting to buy this item.
have registered but no go.
I am member,
How do I buy the product?
It seems I am not authorised??
Thanks for your help
Grant


From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> on behalf of Frank Stamford <frank.stamford@...>
Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2019 7:12 PM
To: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io>
Subject: [LRRSA] Rails to Rubicon book - second edition pre-publication offer
 
Pre-publication orders for the second edition of the book "Rails to Rubicon" by Peter Evans, are now being taken. The pre-publication price is $39.60 ($29.70 to LRRSA members). This special price will apply until 31 October this year.

After that the normal price will be $49.50; ($37.13 to LRRSA members).

The book has 200 pages, a hard cover, and over 240 illustrations. It is a comprehensive history of the 2 ft, 3 ft and 3 ft 4-1/2 inch gauge tramways of Victoria's Rubicon Forest, and the connecting tramway to Alexandra.
The book is expected to be available by the end of November.

Orders may be placed here:https://shop.lrrsa.org.au/Rails-to-Rubicon
 

Here are a few sample pages.
Please feel free to share this with others!

Re: Rails to Rubicon book - second edition pre-publication offer

Grant Maloney
 

hi,
am attempting to buy this item.
have registered but no go.
I am member,
How do I buy the product?
It seems I am not authorised??
Thanks for your help
Grant


From: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io> on behalf of Frank Stamford <frank.stamford@...>
Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2019 7:12 PM
To: LRRSA@groups.io <LRRSA@groups.io>
Subject: [LRRSA] Rails to Rubicon book - second edition pre-publication offer
 
Pre-publication orders for the second edition of the book "Rails to Rubicon" by Peter Evans, are now being taken. The pre-publication price is $39.60 ($29.70 to LRRSA members). This special price will apply until 31 October this year.

After that the normal price will be $49.50; ($37.13 to LRRSA members).

The book has 200 pages, a hard cover, and over 240 illustrations. It is a comprehensive history of the 2 ft, 3 ft and 3 ft 4-1/2 inch gauge tramways of Victoria's Rubicon Forest, and the connecting tramway to Alexandra.
The book is expected to be available by the end of November.

Orders may be placed here:https://shop.lrrsa.org.au/Rails-to-Rubicon
 

Here are a few sample pages.
Please feel free to share this with others!

Rails to Rubicon - differences between first and second edition

Frank Stamford
 

This message is in response to queries about the differences between the first (1994) and second (2019) edition of this book.
If you have a first edition then the decision to invest in the second edition really depends on how much value you put on the illustrations. The text of the original edition was extremely well researched and has stood the test of time. There are hardly any changes to the original text. However the new edition takes advantage of advances in printing technology and computer software to recover information hidden in old photographs. Judging by what I have seen in the printer's proofs the photographs will be much improved. The maps also now have the waterways in blue, and the locomotive and rolling stock drawings show the original colours of the equipment. The graphs are also now in colour. There are also a few extra photographs, and a few of the (relatively recent) original photographs have been replaced with colour versions. The overall quality of the book will be similar to other recent LRRSA books, like "Engaging the Giants", and "The McIvor Timber & Firewood Company".

Re: Light Railways 269

David Halfpenny
 

Frank,

I’d much rather have a printed copy - indeed I used to get them - but the Postage persuaded me otherwise . . . 
[It’s amazing what I can buy airmail from China for less than the price of a British stamp!]

While I’m writing, Frank, what are the changes in the second edition of Rails to Rubicon, please?

David 1/2d




On 2 Oct 2019, at 00:15, Frank Stamford <frank.stamford@...> wrote:


David did not have to rely on a miserably slow 1000 km/h aeroplane to get his copy. He is a pdf subscriber.

At this time I am not sure that any of the printed issues will have arrived.

Regards,
Frank

On 2/10/2019 9:10 am, Hunslet wrote:
Unless David’s is posted earlier, it is strange how the magazine can reach the UK from Melbourne, yet I am still waiting for it in Junee – slightly closer!
Peter Neve OAM
 
From: LRRSA@groups.io [mailto:LRRSA@groups.io] On Behalf Of David Halfpenny via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2019 12:25 AM
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Light Railways 269
 
Thank, John - got it now.
 
Cracking good read, as ever :-)
 
David



Re: Light Railways 269

Frank Stamford
 


David did not have to rely on a miserably slow 1000 km/h aeroplane to get his copy. He is a pdf subscriber.

At this time I am not sure that any of the printed issues will have arrived.

Regards,
Frank

On 2/10/2019 9:10 am, Hunslet wrote:

Unless David’s is posted earlier, it is strange how the magazine can reach the UK from Melbourne, yet I am still waiting for it in Junee – slightly closer!

Peter Neve OAM

 

From: LRRSA@groups.io [mailto:LRRSA@groups.io] On Behalf Of David Halfpenny via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2019 12:25 AM
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Light Railways 269

 

Thank, John - got it now.

 

Cracking good read, as ever :-)

 

David


Re: Light Railways 269

John Dennis
 

David gets the PDF version. No delays in the post.

John 

On Wed., 2 Oct. 2019, 9:10 am Hunslet, <hunslet@...> wrote:

Unless David’s is posted earlier, it is strange how the magazine can reach the UK from Melbourne, yet I am still waiting for it in Junee – slightly closer!

Peter Neve OAM

 

From: LRRSA@groups.io [mailto:LRRSA@groups.io] On Behalf Of David Halfpenny via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2019 12:25 AM
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Light Railways 269

 

Thank, John - got it now.

 

Cracking good read, as ever :-)

 

David

Re: Light Railways 269

Hunslet
 

Unless David’s is posted earlier, it is strange how the magazine can reach the UK from Melbourne, yet I am still waiting for it in Junee – slightly closer!

Peter Neve OAM

 

From: LRRSA@groups.io [mailto:LRRSA@groups.io] On Behalf Of David Halfpenny via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2019 12:25 AM
To: LRRSA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Light Railways 269

 

Thank, John - got it now.

 

Cracking good read, as ever :-)

 

David

_._,_._,_

Re: Light Railways 269

David Halfpenny
 

Thank, John - got it now.

Cracking good read, as ever :-)

David

On 1 Oct 2019, at 09:47, John Dennis <jdennis412@...> wrote:

It's coming David. I try and time the PDF release to when the magazines would be arriving, which is likely to be tomorrow for members living in Melbourne. I will most likely send it out later tonight (my time). 

John

On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 18:44, David Halfpenny via Groups.Io <david.halfpenny=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
John, is there a link if we are members, please?

David

On 30 Sep 2019, at 11:15, John Dennis <jdennis412@...> wrote:

The mailout team did their usual sterling job on Thursday, but the public holiday on Friday meant the magazine couldn't be posted. It was handed over to Australia Post today, and should be hitting your letter boxes sometime this week. Light Railways 269 - October 2019 - is a 48 page bumper issue, and looks like another cracker!
The main article features Wyett's Tramway at Beaconsfield, in Tasmania, and Jim Longworth has done a great job of expanding our knowledge of this interesting system.
Contents:
Revisiting Wyett’s Tramway, Beaconsfield (Tas)
From Tram to Rail – the Warrnambool Pier Line (Vic)
Ring River bridge disaster (Tas)
Looking back: End of the Line – Bunnings Mill, Manjimup 1966 (WA)
plus the usual Industrial Railway News, Letters, Field Reports, Heritage and Tourist news - and the announcement of the winner of the 2018 JLN Southern Award.
If you're not a member, your local newsagents should have stock, or you can buy the magazine from the online shop: https://shop.lrrsa.org.au/Light-Railways-No269-October-2019 or as a PDF: https://shop.lrrsa.org.au/Light-Railways-No269-October2019-PDF-Download
<lr269.jpg>




Rails to Rubicon book - second edition pre-publication offer

Frank Stamford
 

Pre-publication orders for the second edition of the book "Rails to Rubicon" by Peter Evans, are now being taken. The pre-publication price is $39.60 ($29.70 to LRRSA members). This special price will apply until 31 October this year.

After that the normal price will be $49.50; ($37.13 to LRRSA members).

The book has 200 pages, a hard cover, and over 240 illustrations. It is a comprehensive history of the 2 ft, 3 ft and 3 ft 4-1/2 inch gauge tramways of Victoria's Rubicon Forest, and the connecting tramway to Alexandra.
The book is expected to be available by the end of November.

Orders may be placed here:https://shop.lrrsa.org.au/Rails-to-Rubicon
 

Here are a few sample pages.
Please feel free to share this with others!