Date   

NSW parish maps

Petan
 

Wondering if anyone else is having troubles with the usual NSW Land Registry Services' (NSW LRS) Historical Land Records Viewer as it either tells me that site is no secure or it does open but the page after the accepting of the copyright etc has a small pop up window with blue ok button after I enter the name of the required parish. Clicking that OK button than starts an endless loop of repeated requests to do the same without any maps appearing. This only really started a couple of weeks ago. Same on all three of the internet browsers here.
http://hlrv.nswlrs.com.au/pixel.htm

Cheers
Peter Cokley


Currumbin Sanctuary

Petan
 

The Currumbin Wildlife Sanctuary, Gold Coast, has a 2018 dated webpage noting the steamer is operational. I recall some questions in the past about the status of this loco.
https://currumbinsanctuary.com.au/our-stories/news/train-ride-down-memory-lane

Cheers
Peter Cokley


Re: Hunslet No.1239 4-6-0T locomotive - North Eton Mill No.4

Brad P
 

I have one recent one.
But am in the Philippines.

On Sat, 14 Apr. 2018, 8:28 am 'Chris Stratton' gm4201@... [LRRSA], <LRRSA@...> wrote:
 

I only have a photo of it at Ipswich pre-restoration, with band-aids attached.

 

Regards,

CS

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Saturday, 14 April 2018 10:19 AM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: [LRRSA] Hunslet No.1239 4-6-0T locomotive - North Eton Mill No.4 [1 Attachment]

 

[Attachment(s) from frank.stamford@... [LRRSA] included below]


Good morning all,

 

The next issue of Light Railways will include an article about Hunslet 4-6-0T locomotive, Buuilder's No.1239, which is now restored in the Workshops Railway, Museum, Ipswich.

 

This locomotive was formerly No.4 of North Eton sugar mill, Queensland. 

 

Whilst we have a number of illustrations for the article, we are looking for:

 

(1)  a photograph of it is service at North Eton (which would be before 1965); and 

 

(2) a photograph of it in its fully restored condition at the Museum.

 

Would any member of this Group be able to provide one or both of these please?

 

The attached picture is one I took in 1964 of the loco in a park.

 

Regards,

Frank

(wearing LR Associate Editor hat!)

 

 





Re: Hunslet No.1239 4-6-0T locomotive - North Eton Mill No.4

Chris Stratton
 

Noel,

 

I recently bought an Epson V370 scanner from Officeworks for $198 and am very happy with the results. I used to use a Plustek OpticFilm 7200i which cost a lot more but it died. The V370 does 4800x9600 dpi optical, if you want to spend more and get the V550 it will do 6400x9600dpi, it will also do more film formats than the V370.

 

Regards,

Chris

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Sunday, 15 April 2018 1:25 AM
To: LRRSA@...
Cc: 'John & Ann Browning'
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] Hunslet No.1239 4-6-0T locomotive - North Eton Mill No.4

 




In the early fifties I had my railwayman’s annual vacation in Queensland. I  visited many sugar mill sites from Hambledon Mill near Cairns [which had Clyde 0-6-0 diesel locos] south to Moreton Central Mill at Nambour. Most mills had steam locos and I recall and photographed  ‘MORETON’ [which travelled under the QR main line] and ‘VALDORA’ [used for shunting] at Nambour, also other steam locos were photographed at Pleystowe, Isis, Millaquin and Qunaba sugar Mills.  One of these had an 0-4-0 Krauss loco with a large spark arrestor stack like ‘JACK’ from Burrinjuck Dam, also an 0-6-0 loco.  Other mills in that area and elsewhere had ‘Bunderberg/Fowler’ steam locos.

 

A lot of these 35 mm colour transparency images are yet to be scanned when I can afford a good Epson high resolution scanner. Most of my colour film was Kodachrome which retained colours better than others. They have only been viewed occasionally with a 300 watt ‘Aldis’ projector.

Noel Reed. Hornsby NSW.             

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Saturday, 14 April 2018 2:15 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Cc: John & Ann Browning
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Hunslet No.1239 4-6-0T locomotive - North Eton Mill No.4

 

 

The CaneSIG image collection may have what you are looking for Frank:
Image link: North Eton Sugar Mill, Mackay Q 4 Hunslet 4-6-0T Canefield to mill -- 20.9.63 (Built by Hunslet Engine Co. for British War Dept; saw service in France in First World War.), John Browning Collection [Qsugar]
     [http://www.zelmeroz.com/album_rail/qld/jbc/3040A.jpg]

I can provide a publishable (higher resolution and cleaned up a bit) version of the image if John Browning is agreeable.

Best wishes, Lynn

On 14/04/2018 10:19 AM, frank.stamford@... [LRRSA] wrote:

Good morning all,

 

The next issue of Light Railways will include an article about Hunslet 4-6-0T locomotive, Buuilder's No.1239, which is now restored in the Workshops Railway, Museum, Ipswich.

 

This locomotive was formerly No.4 of North Eton sugar mill, Queensland. 

 

Whilst we have a number of illustrations for the article, we are looking for:

 

(1)  a photograph of it is service at North Eton (which would be before 1965); and 

 

(2) a photograph of it in its fully restored condition at the Museum.

 

Would any member of this Group be able to provide one or both of these please?

 

The attached picture is one I took in 1964 of the loco in a park.

 

Regards,

Frank

(wearing LR Associate Editor hat!)

 

 

 

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Box 1414 Main Post Office
Rockhampton, QLD 4700 AUSTRALIA

 

 

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Re: Hunslet No.1239 4-6-0T locomotive - North Eton Mill No.4

Noel Reed
 

In the early fifties I had my railwayman’s annual vacation in Queensland. I  visited many sugar mill sites from Hambledon Mill near Cairns [which had Clyde 0-6-0 diesel locos] south to Moreton Central Mill at Nambour. Most mills had steam locos and I recall and photographed  ‘MORETON’ [which travelled under the QR main line] and ‘VALDORA’ [used for shunting] at Nambour, also other steam locos were photographed at Pleystowe, Isis, Millaquin and Qunaba sugar Mills.  One of these had an 0-4-0 Krauss loco with a large spark arrestor stack like ‘JACK’ from Burrinjuck Dam, also an 0-6-0 loco.  Other mills in that area and elsewhere had ‘Bunderberg/Fowler’ steam locos.

 

A lot of these 35 mm colour transparency images are yet to be scanned when I can afford a good Epson high resolution scanner. Most of my colour film was Kodachrome which retained colours better than others. They have only been viewed occasionally with a 300 watt ‘Aldis’ projector.

Noel Reed. Hornsby NSW.             

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Saturday, 14 April 2018 2:15 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Cc: John & Ann Browning
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Hunslet No.1239 4-6-0T locomotive - North Eton Mill No.4

 

 

The CaneSIG image collection may have what you are looking for Frank:
Image link: North Eton Sugar Mill, Mackay Q 4 Hunslet 4-6-0T Canefield to mill -- 20.9.63 (Built by Hunslet Engine Co. for British War Dept; saw service in France in First World War.), John Browning Collection [Qsugar]
     [http://www.zelmeroz.com/album_rail/qld/jbc/3040A.jpg]

I can provide a publishable (higher resolution and cleaned up a bit) version of the image if John Browning is agreeable.

Best wishes, Lynn

On 14/04/2018 10:19 AM, frank.stamford@... [LRRSA] wrote:

Good morning all,

 

The next issue of Light Railways will include an article about Hunslet 4-6-0T locomotive, Buuilder's No.1239, which is now restored in the Workshops Railway, Museum, Ipswich.

 

This locomotive was formerly No.4 of North Eton sugar mill, Queensland. 

 

Whilst we have a number of illustrations for the article, we are looking for:

 

(1)  a photograph of it is service at North Eton (which would be before 1965); and 

 

(2) a photograph of it in its fully restored condition at the Museum.

 

Would any member of this Group be able to provide one or both of these please?

 

The attached picture is one I took in 1964 of the loco in a park.

 

Regards,

Frank

(wearing LR Associate Editor hat!)

 

 

 

-- 
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Box 1414 Main Post Office
Rockhampton, QLD 4700 AUSTRALIA

 

Virus-free. www.avg.com

 


Re: Hunslet No.1239 4-6-0T locomotive - North Eton Mill No.4 [1 Attachment]

John Browning
 

All good with me, Lynn

 

John

 

From: A C Lynn Zelmer [mailto:lynn@...]
Sent: Saturday, 14 April 2018 2:15 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Cc: John & Ann Browning Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Hunslet No.1239 4-6-0T locomotive - North Eton Mill No.4 [1 Attachment]

 

The CaneSIG image collection may have what you are looking for Frank:
Image link: North Eton Sugar Mill, Mackay Q 4 Hunslet 4-6-0T Canefield to mill -- 20.9.63 (Built by Hunslet Engine Co. for British War Dept; saw service in France in First World War.), John Browning Collection [Qsugar]
     [http://www.zelmeroz.com/album_rail/qld/jbc/3040A.jpg]

I can provide a publishable (higher resolution and cleaned up a bit) version of the image if John Browning is agreeable.

Best wishes, Lynn

On 14/04/2018 10:19 AM, frank.stamford@... [LRRSA] wrote:

[Attachment(s) from frank.stamford@... [LRRSA] included below]


Good morning all,

 

The next issue of Light Railways will include an article about Hunslet 4-6-0T locomotive, Buuilder's No.1239, which is now restored in the Workshops Railway, Museum, Ipswich.

 

This locomotive was formerly No.4 of North Eton sugar mill, Queensland. 

 

Whilst we have a number of illustrations for the article, we are looking for:

 

(1)  a photograph of it is service at North Eton (which would be before 1965); and 

 

(2) a photograph of it in its fully restored condition at the Museum.

 

Would any member of this Group be able to provide one or both of these please?

 

The attached picture is one I took in 1964 of the loco in a park.

 

Regards,

Frank

(wearing LR Associate Editor hat!)

 

 




 

-- 
Lynn Zelmer
Box 1414 Main Post Office
Rockhampton, QLD 4700 AUSTRALIA


Re: Hunslet No.1239 4-6-0T locomotive - North Eton Mill No.4

Frank Stamford
 


Thank you very much Lynn.

I have contacted you directly about a high res version.

It is just what we want.

Regards,
Frank

On 14/04/2018 2:15 PM, A C Lynn Zelmer lynn@... [LRRSA] wrote:
 

The CaneSIG image collection may have what you are looking for Frank:
Image link: North Eton Sugar Mill, Mackay Q 4 Hunslet 4-6-0T Canefield to mill -- 20.9.63 (Built by Hunslet Engine Co. for British War Dept; saw service in France in First World War.), John Browning Collection [Qsugar]
     [http://www.zelmeroz.com/album_rail/qld/jbc/3040A.jpg]

I can provide a publishable (higher resolution and cleaned up a bit) version of the image if John Browning is agreeable.

Best wishes, Lynn

On 14/04/2018 10:19 AM, frank.stamford@... [LRRSA] wrote:

Good morning all,


The next issue of Light Railways will include an article about Hunslet 4-6-0T locomotive, Buuilder's No.1239, which is now restored in the Workshops Railway, Museum, Ipswich.


This locomotive was formerly No.4 of North Eton sugar mill, Queensland. 


Whilst we have a number of illustrations for the article, we are looking for:


(1)  a photograph of it is service at North Eton (which would be before 1965); and 


(2) a photograph of it in its fully restored condition at the Museum.


Would any member of this Group be able to provide one or both of these please?


The attached picture is one I took in 1964 of the loco in a park.


Regards,

Frank

(wearing LR Associate Editor hat!)




-- 
Lynn Zelmer
Box 1414 Main Post Office
Rockhampton, QLD 4700 AUSTRALIA



Re: Hunslet No.1239 4-6-0T locomotive - North Eton Mill No.4 [1 Attachment]

A C Lynn Zelmer
 

The CaneSIG image collection may have what you are looking for Frank:
Image link: North Eton Sugar Mill, Mackay Q 4 Hunslet 4-6-0T Canefield to mill -- 20.9.63 (Built by Hunslet Engine Co. for British War Dept; saw service in France in First World War.), John Browning Collection [Qsugar]
     [http://www.zelmeroz.com/album_rail/qld/jbc/3040A.jpg]

I can provide a publishable (higher resolution and cleaned up a bit) version of the image if John Browning is agreeable.

Best wishes, Lynn

On 14/04/2018 10:19 AM, frank.stamford@... [LRRSA] wrote:

Good morning all,


The next issue of Light Railways will include an article about Hunslet 4-6-0T locomotive, Buuilder's No.1239, which is now restored in the Workshops Railway, Museum, Ipswich.


This locomotive was formerly No.4 of North Eton sugar mill, Queensland. 


Whilst we have a number of illustrations for the article, we are looking for:


(1)  a photograph of it is service at North Eton (which would be before 1965); and 


(2) a photograph of it in its fully restored condition at the Museum.


Would any member of this Group be able to provide one or both of these please?


The attached picture is one I took in 1964 of the loco in a park.


Regards,

Frank

(wearing LR Associate Editor hat!)




-- 
Lynn Zelmer
Box 1414 Main Post Office
Rockhampton, QLD 4700 AUSTRALIA


Re: Hunslet No.1239 4-6-0T locomotive - North Eton Mill No.4 [1 Attachment]

Chris Stratton
 

I only have a photo of it at Ipswich pre-restoration, with band-aids attached.

 

Regards,

CS

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Saturday, 14 April 2018 10:19 AM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: [LRRSA] Hunslet No.1239 4-6-0T locomotive - North Eton Mill No.4 [1 Attachment]

 

[Attachment(s) from frank.stamford@... [LRRSA] included below]


Good morning all,

 

The next issue of Light Railways will include an article about Hunslet 4-6-0T locomotive, Buuilder's No.1239, which is now restored in the Workshops Railway, Museum, Ipswich.

 

This locomotive was formerly No.4 of North Eton sugar mill, Queensland. 

 

Whilst we have a number of illustrations for the article, we are looking for:

 

(1)  a photograph of it is service at North Eton (which would be before 1965); and 

 

(2) a photograph of it in its fully restored condition at the Museum.

 

Would any member of this Group be able to provide one or both of these please?

 

The attached picture is one I took in 1964 of the loco in a park.

 

Regards,

Frank

(wearing LR Associate Editor hat!)

 

 





Hunslet No.1239 4-6-0T locomotive - North Eton Mill No.4

Frank Stamford
 

Good morning all,


The next issue of Light Railways will include an article about Hunslet 4-6-0T locomotive, Buuilder's No.1239, which is now restored in the Workshops Railway, Museum, Ipswich.


This locomotive was formerly No.4 of North Eton sugar mill, Queensland. 


Whilst we have a number of illustrations for the article, we are looking for:


(1)  a photograph of it is service at North Eton (which would be before 1965); and 


(2) a photograph of it in its fully restored condition at the Museum.


Would any member of this Group be able to provide one or both of these please?


The attached picture is one I took in 1964 of the loco in a park.


Regards,

Frank

(wearing LR Associate Editor hat!)




Re: Pyrmont CSR

Petan
 

Thanks John!

 

Cheers Peter Cokley

 

From: LRRSA@...
Sent: Thursday, 12 April 2018 2:32 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: [LRRSA] Re: Pyrmont CSR

 




Molasses sounds like a possibility.

John





Re: Pyrmont CSR

John Browning
 

Molasses sounds like a possibility.

John


Re: Pyrmont CSR

Petan
 

Folks, I am still following up on the molasses help I received the other week .

 

I am checking why, in 1897, the cargo list of a CSR Condong mill, Tweed River, bound ship would include empty casks listed as for CSR, as well as the to be expected coal from Newcastle for CSR Condong. In July 1897 the Langley Brothers ‘Heroine’, an 1894 Nambucca River built 98 feet schooner, was anchored off Coolangatta waiting to enter the Tweed River. Storms generated by an East Coast low lashed at the boat causing waves to break over her deck, staving in her hatches. She slipped her anchors and she was driven ashore close to Coolangatta Creek at North Kirra. Fortunately, the captain and crew landed safely but she was badly damaged and abandoned.   Sources include The Sydney Morning Herald, 27 July 1897, p5 http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article28252432  

 

My suggestion for the empty casks would be to send out molasses, so I wonder if any other person’s research has found molasses was transported in casks in that era?   

 

On a side note, we are members of the Geocaching GPS hobby and we have a cache at the probably wreck site of the Heroine which is also close to the probably site of the August 1846 wreck of the Coolangatta, a 63 foot 88 ton top sail schooner built in the Shoalhaven area of southern NSW in 1843. She was in the area to pick-up cedar logs harvested amongst the hills of the Tweed Valley. Coolangatta QLD is named after this 1846 wreck. Our geocaching user name is Petan, same as my Railpage name. Our geocaching page Has more  https://www.geocaching.com/geocache/GC5M69F_coolangatta-or-heroine?guid=f948ee9c-a59e-438e-96ca-d1c105c9d06b

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley

 

From: LRRSA@...
Sent: Sunday, 4 March 2018 5:31 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Pyrmont CSR

 

      Indeed Kevin, My Dad reports workmen who spent time in the empty fermenting vats becoming somewhat merry. They also used beryllium copper tools, to prevent any chance of a spark igniting the vapour. The sugar dust was also highly explosive, a spark from a conveyor, at one time blew out all the windows of the warehouse, into the harbour.

  I rather wonder if the molasses loaded on rail at Condong, went to Pyrmont at all. There were many other users of it. Stock food makers use. Bob


Re: Speed Limit 20 Plus - sold out !

Noel Reed
 

Hello all,

I have travelled on the Gembrook and Crowes lines [as far as Beech Forest] in VR days.

I have also walked from Wangaratta to Targoora on the Whitfield line and travelled back on the open ‘Postal Motor’ in VR days. Targoora looked the same as the picture in ‘Speed Limit 20 Plus’.

I had met  the author, Ted Downs on several occasions at the home of Gifford [Giff] Eardley, Ted’s father in law at Rockdale NSW.

Noel Reed. [once a LRRSA member].

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Friday, 6 April 2018 9:43 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] Speed Limit 20 Plus - sold out !

 

 

Still available from the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway bookshop in Porthmadog.

;-)

Michael Chapman

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ smartphone

"frank.stamford@... [LRRSA]" wrote:

 

Hello all,

 

Please note that we have now sold out of Speed Limit 20 Plus, and we are unable to get any more stock.

 

Frank

 


Posted by: Michael Chapman



Re: Speed Limit 20 Plus - sold out !

Michael C.
 

Still available from the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway bookshop in Porthmadog.

;-)

Michael Chapman

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ smartphone

"frank.stamford@... [LRRSA]" <LRRSA@...> wrote:

 

Hello all,


Please note that we have now sold out of Speed Limit 20 Plus, and we are unable to get any more stock.


Frank



Speed Limit 20 Plus - sold out !

Frank Stamford
 

Hello all,


Please note that we have now sold out of Speed Limit 20 Plus, and we are unable to get any more stock.


Frank



Re: Pre-decimal converter

Petan
 

Thanks Stuart!

 

Use the 19th century website http://www.thomblake.com.au/secondary/hisdata/calculate.php  for that era and I used £21000 in 1882 to convert to present day $2622750. But it only worked for £21000 not  £21,000 with the comma after the thousand, so no comma.

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley

 

From: LRRSA@...
Sent: Wednesday, 28 March 2018 3:36 PM
To: Light Railways Yahoo
Subject: [LRRSA] Pre-decimal converter

 

For those who want to know what the pound has bought over the years, the short item below is from the RAHS newsletter. Only goes back to 1901 unfortunately.

Pre-Decimal Inflation Calculator

The Reserve bank of Australia has a very useful tool on its website, the Pre-Decimal Inflation Calculator, to access, click here. This tool will assist you in calculating the value of amounts expressed in Pounds, Shillings and Pence (Australia’s pre-decimal currency). This can be very useful in determining wages and salaries as compared with the cost of buying land or a house, paying rent or purchasing item(s) between 1901 and 2017. For example, it shows that £1/-/- in calendar year 1901 would cost $150.45 in 2017. The total change in cost is 7422.3 per cent, over 116 years, at an average annual inflation rate of 3.8 per cent._._,_.___


Posted by: Stuart Thyer <stuart.thyer@...>

 

 


Pre-decimal converter

Stuart Thyer
 

For those who want to know what the pound has bought over the years, the short item below is from the RAHS newsletter. Only goes back to 1901 unfortunately.

Pre-Decimal Inflation Calculator
The Reserve bank of Australia has a very useful tool on its website, the Pre-Decimal Inflation Calculator, to access, click here. This tool will assist you in calculating the value of amounts expressed in Pounds, Shillings and Pence (Australia’s pre-decimal currency). This can be very useful in determining wages and salaries as compared with the cost of buying land or a house, paying rent or purchasing item(s) between 1901 and 2017. For example, it shows that £1/-/- in calendar year 1901 would cost $150.45 in 2017. The total change in cost is 7422.3 per cent, over 116 years, at an average annual inflation rate of 3.8 per cent.


Hairyleg 2018

Petan
 

The latest 2018 Hairyleg kmz file (4MB file size) is now available from my Google Drive.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qgWfJ_ov9-Kqvq6tLdrpErDQafMcrJpI/view  

 

John “Hairyleg” (LRRSA member) asked that any comments or questions appear on this Railpage thread https://www.railpage.com.au/f-p2097795.htm#2097795  Obviously that is to ensure people can see everyone else's comments so the extra knowledge can be shared. If you make a comment elsewhere that maybe only those who are members of that group can learn from your remarks. Railpage can be easily  viewed by non members.

 

I have found several extras around the Tweed which I know are correct as I sent my recently discovered research material to John for the kmz. Even the Salisbury TNT freight yard from my January / March Australian Railway History article makes an appearance in the kmz file. Many more just waiting to be found.

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley

 


Re: Light Railways 260

David in Avenel
 

I look forward to the article on Torrumbarry having driven through there just recently and remembering that the VR had a siding for the SR&WSC on the Cohuna branch. 

--
cheers and best wishes,  
David in Avenel.au
{Before you change anything, learn why it is the way it is.)


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