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Re: Speed Limit 20 Plus

Karen & Paul
 

John,

 

I too have just ordered the book and I also had the message unsecure connection.

So at least 2 of us have experienced this

 

Paul Dove

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Monday, 27 November, 2017 4:40 PM
To: LRRSA Yahoogroup
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Re: Speed Limit 20 Plus

 

 

I've never noticed that before David, and nobody else has raised this.  Once you are logged in everything thereafter is secured. The page you are taken to is a secure page, but whether you login details would be exposed, I don't know. I shall investigate.

 

John

 

On 27 November 2017 at 16:28, espee8800 espee8800@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:

 

Upon reading this glowing report/review I immediately went the shop and it instructed me to log-in or I couldn't buy anything.  Fair enough.    When I went to log in it said that it would be over an insecure connection and I am reluctant to log in over an insecure connection.

Please advise.


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Re: Speed Limit 20 Plus

John Dennis
 

I've never noticed that before David, and nobody else has raised this.  Once you are logged in everything thereafter is secured. The page you are taken to is a secure page, but whether you login details would be exposed, I don't know. I shall investigate.

John

On 27 November 2017 at 16:28, espee8800 espee8800@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:
 

Upon reading this glowing report/review I immediately went the shop and it instructed me to log-in or I couldn't buy anything.  Fair enough.    When I went to log in it said that it would be over an insecure connection and I am reluctant to log in over an insecure connection.

Please advise.

--
best wishes,  
David in Avenel.au
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Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: Speed Limit 20 Plus

David in Avenel
 

Upon reading this glowing report/review I immediately went the shop and it instructed me to log-in or I couldn't buy anything.  Fair enough.    When I went to log in it said that it would be over an insecure connection and I am reluctant to log in over an insecure connection.

Please advise.

--
best wishes,  
David in Avenel.au
{Before you change anything, learn why it is the way it is.)


Virus-free. www.avg.com

Speed Limit 20 Plus

Frank Stamford
 

"Speed Limit 20 Plus" published by the Puffing Billy Preservation Society is now available from the LRRSA's Online Shop: http://lightrailwayresearchsocietyofaustralia.cart.net.au/

I have now had the opportunity to compare it to the original "Speed Limit 20" published in 1963 which commanded prices sometimes exceeding $400 on the second-hand book market. The reason it was so sought-after was that it contains a vast amount of information, with very few errors, in a very compact well laid out format.

The new version very closely follows the original in terms of page size, content, layout, and illustrations. In terms of quality the new version is superior to the old in every respect: the printing, the paper, the binding, and the photographic reproduction. Much more care has been taken with the cropping of locomotive and rolling stock photographs than was the case in the original version.

The photographs are reproduced better, in some cases startlingly so, like the photograph of Walhalla on page 114. Eleven of the original photographs have been replaced by different photographs illustrating similar content. In all but one case the replacement photographs are superior or more interesting than those they have replaced.

Some corrections have been made to the original text, but these changes have not been identified by the publishers - so I went hunting for them. Those I found were: delivery dates of locomotives p.14; location of air pump on early NA class locomotives p.16; livery of early NAs p.16; Wangaratta - Whitfield station histories p.39. After page 39 I did not find any changes.

The original book ended at page 130 and no attempt has been made to update it to cover subsequent events. It describes the situation as it existed in 1963.
However, pages 133 to 164 are all new and describe subsequent events relating to all five VR 2 ft 6 in gauge lines, including details of locomotives and rolling stock currently on the Gembrook and Walhalla lines, and what remains of the other three lines. Twenty-six new photographs are included in this section.
Contrary to information contained in some of the advertising of this book, it does not contain an index. But because of the structure and layout it is not too difficult to find information quickly.

The price is $49.95 plus postage, with 10% discount to LRRSA members. I expect it may sell out quickly.


Re: : Light Railways 258 & Plateways

Bob Backway
 

Definitely in the late 60s John. I rode a bicycle from Parkdale to Heatherton every Saturday from 1966 to 1970 to work part time as a gardener/handyman while at high school. On Centre Dandenong Rd the plateway clearly formed the left edge of the bitumen alongside the Moorabbin Airport.


Bob Backway, Belgrave Hts, Victoria, Australia
Commodore, Lake Eyre Yacht Club   LakeEyreYC.com

Re: : Light Railways 258

John Dennis
 

Hello Graeme,

Thanks for the link. I have memories of seeing the plateways in that area as a kid, in the 50s and possibly the 60s. 

John

On 24 November 2017 at 21:24, gin78205@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:
 

Thanks John for the LR info. As another plateway appetite-whetter, the City of Kingston has the following available on its website: http://localhistory.kingston.vic.gov.au/htm/article/137.htm
Regards, Graeme


Re: : Light Railways 258

Graeme Inglis
 

Thanks John for the LR info. As another plateway appetite-whetter, the City of Kingston has the following available on its website: http://localhistory.kingston.vic.gov.au/htm/article/137.htm
Regards, Graeme

Light Railways 258

John Dennis
 

Greetings All,

LR 258 was handed over to Australia Post this morning.  It's on the way to members - I cannot say when it might appear in the Newsagents as that distribution is handled by Gordon & Gotch, and may be related to the month of issue. 

I'm certainly looking forward to sitting down and reading the fascinating article on Plateways of Melbourne (map attached) plus all the other goodies in the magazine.

John Dennis

OFF TOPIC photographs from Germany

Michael C.
 

Dear all,
 
Back in September I visited the Technikmuseum in Berlin (http://sdtb.de/546/)
 
They have a fascinating collection of railway locomotives and rolling stock including an NGG13 Garratt.
 
I have uploaded a collection of images to Flickr. Take a look if you are interested:
 
 
Cheers,
 
Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
Follow me on Twitter @mikenarrowgauge
Support the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WHHRly

Re: Queensland Accident Files

John Dennis
 

I assume you have got to the list of files by following this link:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0ByB-ppGeDyvwVnJrSDIxdnRESWM

If you right click on a filename one of the options presented to you is "Download".

John

On 16 November 2017 at 14:49, espee8800 espee8800@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:
 

Hello all,

Recently there was a link provided to a list of these files and I created a tab meaning to get back to it and have a look.   Just tried it and thought I would download some to read but alas I cannot find anywhere that permits a download.   Clearly I am a complete novice at this computer malarky and would relish some advice on how one downloads from Google drive or whatever it is called.

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best wishes,  
David in Avenel.au
{Before you change anything, learn why it is the way it is.)


Queensland Accident Files

David in Avenel
 

Hello all,

Recently there was a link provided to a list of these files and I created a tab meaning to get back to it and have a look.   Just tried it and thought I would download some to read but alas I cannot find anywhere that permits a download.   Clearly I am a complete novice at this computer malarky and would relish some advice on how one downloads from Google drive or whatever it is called.

--
best wishes,  
David in Avenel.au
{Before you change anything, learn why it is the way it is.)

LRRSA Meetings for December

John Dennis
 

Hi All,

As LR 258 is being prepared, here are the meeting dates for December:

Brisbane - Mike Loveday photo competition

The meeting will feature the late Mike Loveday photo and slide competition that is open to all members. Bring a plate of Christmas goodies for supper.
Location: BCC Library, 107 Orange Grove Road, Coopers Plains. Date: Friday 15 December 2017 at 7:30pm 

Sydney - No meeting in December

The next meeting of the NSW Division will be in February 2017 and details will be provided in the next Light Railways. 

Melbourne - Industrial archeology in Cornwall and Wales

Society Treasurer Colin Harvey will provide an overview of his recent trip to Cornwall and Wales. He will be presenting some magnificent photos and details of some fascinating sites that he visited whilst there.
Location: Ashburton Uniting Church Hall, Ashburn Grove, Ashburton.
Date: Thursday 14 December 2017 at 8:00 pm 

Adelaide - Czech light railways - part 2

Our topic for this meeting will be the second part of the light railways of Czechoslovakia, presented by Gerry Ohmer. News of any other light railways will be welcome from any member. Intending participants would be well advised to contact Les Howard on 8278 3082 or by email lfhoward@..., since accommodation is limited.
Location: 1 Kindergarten Drive, Hawthorndene
Date: Thursday 7 December 2017 at 8:00 pm

John Dennis

Re: Helensvale trams

Petan
 

Video of the trip from QLD Dept Transport and Main Roads via Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/TMRQld/videos/1586829064693304/?q=department%20of%20transport%20and%20main%20roads%20(queensland)

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Thursday, 9 November 2017 9:12 AM
To: qrig@...; LRRSA@...
Subject: [LRRSA] Helensvale trams

 

Hi Folks,

From the (Translink) Gold Coast tram website below and note the bit about continuing to Helensvale on test runs.

Today Thursday 9 November, the Gold Coast tram timetable will change.  This change is being made as part of Stage 2 testing, in preparation for passenger services in early 2018.

What to expect:

Trams will still run at the same frequency however the time of departure may change slightly.

If you catch a connecting bus service, your transfer time may also change.

Passengers travelling northbound will still need to exit the tram at Gold Coast University Hospital, as trams will switch to 'out of service' mode and continue to Helensvale as part of the testing phase.

Southbound services will depart from Gold Coast University Hospital station Platform 2 and will stop all stations to Broadbeach South.

 

https://translink.com.au/about-translink/projects-and-initiatives/gold-coast-light-rail  

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley




Helensvale trams

Petan
 

Hi Folks,

From the (Translink) Gold Coast tram website below and note the bit about continuing to Helensvale on test runs.

Today Thursday 9 November, the Gold Coast tram timetable will change.  This change is being made as part of Stage 2 testing, in preparation for passenger services in early 2018.

 

What to expect:

Trams will still run at the same frequency however the time of departure may change slightly.

If you catch a connecting bus service, your transfer time may also change.

Passengers travelling northbound will still need to exit the tram at Gold Coast University Hospital, as trams will switch to 'out of service' mode and continue to Helensvale as part of the testing phase.

Southbound services will depart from Gold Coast University Hospital station Platform 2 and will stop all stations to Broadbeach South.

 

https://translink.com.au/about-translink/projects-and-initiatives/gold-coast-light-rail  

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley

Re: : Toowoomba Range rail tunnels lowering

Philip G Graham
 

Interesting project. The requirement to retain heritage integrity rules out the approach made by the TGR in Tasmania to use an existing TBM (tunnel boring machine) to ream out the diameter of the Rhyndaston Tunnel on the Main Line between Hobart and Launceston, for a similar clearance problem.

Tasmanian Transport Commission, Tasmania - Expansion reaming of Rhyndaston rail tunnel - HEC/TGR jv - Robbins TBM-Main Beam Open Gripper #161-108 "The Mole" 4.93 m x 945 m (_/64~_/65)

TGR utilized the ex-Hydro Electric Commission Robbins hard rock TBM that had previously been used on the Poatina HEP project head and tail-race tunnels, some 6 800 km of successful tunneling.

For the railway based project, the TBM was partly mounted on the TGR heavy duty well wagon P2 (previously used for transformer and generating machinery transport) and the remainder of the TBM traveling on the heavier rated bogies from a withdrawn M-class tender. This was a requirement as the reaming machine was to be withdrawn from the tunnel during daytime windows to allow regular train working to continue.

This project progressed relatively quickly as the material being shaved out was the softer, but abrasive Tasmanian sandstone. Unfortunately, the "heritage" brickwork forming the portals at either end of the Tasmanian tunnel was destroyed and lost in the process here.

-PGG-

Toowoomba Range rail tunnels lowering

John Cleverdon
 

Hello all,
A little off-topic, but as some of you may be aware, the heritage rail tunnels in the Toowoomba Range are to be lowered to allow higher-clearance trains through them.

A professional magazine I get mentioned use of laser scanning as part of the lowering of these tunnels.
Details are at: http://bennettandbennett.com.au/projects/rail-clearance-upgrade-toowoomba-laidley/ and a video is at: https://player.vimeo.com/video/220393665

Regards,
John
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John Cleverdon
Mornington Peninsula, Victoria, Australia
John's web page: http://users.cdi.com.au/~johnc/
LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/pub/john-cleverdon/a/a81/2b



Re: QR derailments etc 1950s - 1990s

Petan
 

Eventually found the other version on my computer and now uploaded to the same download site and remember to use the included spreadsheet as well. Must reorganise this computer one day!

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0ByB-ppGeDyvwVnJrSDIxdnRESWM   

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley

 

From: Peter Cokley [mailto:yahoomail@...]
Sent: Monday, 30 October 2017 11:04 AM
To: 'LRRSA@...'
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] QR derailments etc 1950s - 1990s

 

Forgot to add that someone sent these to me some years ago, so obviously I don’t claim authorship.

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Monday, 30 October 2017 10:12 AM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: [LRRSA] QR derailments etc 1950s - 1990s

 



I offer a very extensive list of 1950s to 1990s list of QR train derailments etc etc in MS Word format. It includes both QR long closed lines thus on topic for LRRSA as well as many events resulting from interactions with QR and sugar mill tramway traffic.  

 

An example follows and I am not sure what the ‘3’ and B53.5984 indicate although obviously some QR code system; 24/7/53  7m Woongarra branch 3 B53.5984 Collision and derailment of PB15 537 and a Qunaba Mill cane train.

 

As far as I am concerned, these railway historical research documents are now available for other researchers.

 

1950s QR derailments etc, 1960s QR derailments etc, 1970s QR derailments etc, 1980s QR derailments etc, 1990s QR derailments etc

All from the one URL https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0ByB-ppGeDyvwVnJrSDIxdnRESWM

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley                                        

 

 

 



Re: QR derailments etc 1950s - 1990s

Petan
 

For an interesting time, use search term ‘Innisfail’ and watch all the QR Innisfail tramway entries pop up!  Tramway sold by QR in 1977. Arthur Robinson has mentioned the code eg B53.5984, would most likely refer to the year (1953) and the rest the QR file number. Obvious these are historical files and not mine originally so I would have no interest what you decide to do with them after you download eg share with your researcher mates etc  

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Monday, 30 October 2017 10:12 AM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: [LRRSA] QR derailments etc 1950s - 1990s

 

I offer a very extensive list of 1950s to 1990s list of QR train derailments etc etc in MS Word format. It includes both QR long closed lines thus on topic for LRRSA as well as many events resulting from interactions with QR and sugar mill tramway traffic.  

 

An example follows and I am not sure what the ‘3’ and B53.5984 indicate although obviously some QR code system; 24/7/53  7m Woongarra branch 3 B53.5984 Collision and derailment of PB15 537 and a Qunaba Mill cane train.

 

As far as I am concerned, these railway historical research documents are now available for other researchers.

 

1950s QR derailments etc, 1960s QR derailments etc, 1970s QR derailments etc, 1980s QR derailments etc, 1990s QR derailments etc

All from the one URL https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0ByB-ppGeDyvwVnJrSDIxdnRESWM

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley                                        

 

 

 




Re: QR derailments etc 1950s - 1990s

Petan
 

Forgot to add that someone sent these to me some years ago, so obviously I don’t claim authorship.

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Monday, 30 October 2017 10:12 AM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: [LRRSA] QR derailments etc 1950s - 1990s

 




I offer a very extensive list of 1950s to 1990s list of QR train derailments etc etc in MS Word format. It includes both QR long closed lines thus on topic for LRRSA as well as many events resulting from interactions with QR and sugar mill tramway traffic.  

 

An example follows and I am not sure what the ‘3’ and B53.5984 indicate although obviously some QR code system; 24/7/53  7m Woongarra branch 3 B53.5984 Collision and derailment of PB15 537 and a Qunaba Mill cane train.

 

As far as I am concerned, these railway historical research documents are now available for other researchers.

 

1950s QR derailments etc, 1960s QR derailments etc, 1970s QR derailments etc, 1980s QR derailments etc, 1990s QR derailments etc

All from the one URL https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0ByB-ppGeDyvwVnJrSDIxdnRESWM

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley                                        

 

 

 




QR derailments etc 1950s - 1990s

Petan
 

I offer a very extensive list of 1950s to 1990s list of QR train derailments etc etc in MS Word format. It includes both QR long closed lines thus on topic for LRRSA as well as many events resulting from interactions with QR and sugar mill tramway traffic.  

 

An example follows and I am not sure what the ‘3’ and B53.5984 indicate although obviously some QR code system; 24/7/53  7m Woongarra branch 3 B53.5984 Collision and derailment of PB15 537 and a Qunaba Mill cane train.

 

As far as I am concerned, these railway historical research documents are now available for other researchers.

 

1950s QR derailments etc, 1960s QR derailments etc, 1970s QR derailments etc, 1980s QR derailments etc, 1990s QR derailments etc

All from the one URL https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0ByB-ppGeDyvwVnJrSDIxdnRESWM

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley