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Re: Road construction tramway Sydney

neville conder
 

I think I've seen a photo with the construction of the houses in the background with a small Simplex locomotive leading tipper wagons. I will have to have a look for the photo.
Neville Conder.


On 5 Jul 2017, at 8:45 pm, 'Mike Bickford' mikebickford55@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:

 

Peter,
 
 
 
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Mike Bickford

 
From: 'Peter Cokley' yahoomail@... [LRRSA]
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 2:15 PM
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Subject: [LRRSA] Road construction tramway Sydney
 


A road construction tramway is shown in ABC TV’s Building Australia Series 1 Ep 5 The Federation House. It appears in the Daceyville segment about half way through. Although I have visited the Sydney suburb of Daceyville many years ago, I am not familiar with the area so I have no idea if the TV producers just used file footage or if the real location is Daceyville. It is a moving image, not a still, as the men shovelling soil into tipper wagons are moving.

http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/building-australia/ZW1210A005S00#pageloaded

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley


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Re: Road construction tramway Sydney

Mike Bickford
 

From: 'Peter Cokley' yahoomail@... [LRRSA]
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 2:15 PM
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Subject: [LRRSA] Road construction tramway Sydney
 


A road construction tramway is shown in ABC TV’s Building Australia Series 1 Ep 5 The Federation House. It appears in the Daceyville segment about half way through. Although I have visited the Sydney suburb of Daceyville many years ago, I am not familiar with the area so I have no idea if the TV producers just used file footage or if the real location is Daceyville. It is a moving image, not a still, as the men shovelling soil into tipper wagons are moving.

http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/building-australia/ZW1210A005S00#pageloaded

 

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Peter Cokley


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Re: Road construction tramway Sydney

Eddie Oliver
 

On 2017-07-05 06:15, 'Peter Cokley' yahoomail@petan.net [LRRSA] wrote:
A road construction tramway is shown in ABC TV's Building Australia
Series 1 Ep 5 The Federation House. It appears in the Daceyville
segment about half way through. Although I have visited the Sydney
suburb of Daceyville many years ago, I am not familiar with the area
so I have no idea if the TV producers just used file footage or if the
real location is Daceyville. It is a moving image, not a still, as the
men shovelling soil into tipper wagons are moving.
The Rosebery tramway sand siding was off Gardeners Road in Daceyville


Road construction tramway Sydney

Petan
 

A road construction tramway is shown in ABC TV’s Building Australia Series 1 Ep 5 The Federation House. It appears in the Daceyville segment about half way through. Although I have visited the Sydney suburb of Daceyville many years ago, I am not familiar with the area so I have no idea if the TV producers just used file footage or if the real location is Daceyville. It is a moving image, not a still, as the men shovelling soil into tipper wagons are moving.

http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/building-australia/ZW1210A005S00#pageloaded

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley


Re: Indonesian oil-fired industrial tank loco

B.Rumary
 

I saw quite a few of steam locos in Indonesia (Java) with ordinary oil drums fitted across the top of the boiler, to carry oil for the firebox. Some others had rectangular tanks in this position for the same purpose - to me they looked like domestic roof water tanks!

I think the reason for the oil-firing was at the start of the season, before sufficient supplies of "bagasse" (crushed cane) had been accumulated, as this was the normal loco fuel. The oil could also be used to speed up the raising of boiler pressure, and also if the loco ran out of bagasse on the run (it was consumed at quite a rate). I think it could also be used as as a "boost" to the fire when working hard.

In Romania in the steam era they used a similar system of auxiliary oil-firing on top of the usual coal, to boost performance of their locos - I don't think that Romania had access to good quality coal, but they had plenty of oil.

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Re: : Indonesian oil-fired industrial tank loco

Phil Rickard
 

Frank,

Sragi SM in Central Java is what you're after. There are many pictures at
http://www.flickriver.com/places/Indonesia/Central+Java/Sragi/

Flickr also has one or two but flickriver has many - about ten different locos by the look of it, with
tanks of various shapes and number. Take your pick!

cheers   Phil Rickard


Re: : Indonesian oil-fired industrial tank loco

john_raby
 

They were mounted on the boiler in front of the cab.


This was Sragi mill - 600mm gauge.

John
 


Re: Indonesian oil-fired industrial tank loco

Chris Stratton
 

That would have the added benefit of preheating the oil wouldn’t it?

 

Regards,

Chris

 

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Subject: [LRRSA] Re: Indonesian oil-fired industrial tank loco

 




Hi Frank

 

Top of the firebox in front of the cab was the usual spot.

Here is an example http://www.internationalsteam.co.uk/sweetdreams/display.htm?small=wringinanom&large=Wringinanom&number=06

 

I think you have a patient search through the relevant pages of Rob Dickinson’s International Steam site, you will probably find some more examples of what you are looking for. Here might be a good place to start http://www.internationalsteam.co.uk/sweetdreams/index.htm

 

If you email me off list, I can put you in contact with the gentleman you mention.

 

John

 





Re: [AusNG] Indonesian oil-fired industrial tank loco

A C Lynn Zelmer
 

Hello Frank

Several of the Philippine mills converted their locos to oil-firing as well. The photos I have show that they mostly did so using the existing tenders (even their tank locos had tenders for transporting bagasse). However La Carlotta seems to have had at least one loco with what appears to be a supplementary 44 gal oil tank mounted ahead of the cab.

I'd also be quite interested in a photo of the Indonesian loco for potential modelling purposes but if it doesn't show up I'd be happy to share Hans Huffnagel's photo of the La Carlotta loco and/or photos of one or more of the tender-based conversions at other mills, at least one of which appears to be a much larger drum mounted on top of the tender body. The latter appears as the bottom photo on page 35 of the latest issue (July 2017) of Narrow Gauge Down Under.

Happy modelling, Lynn

On 3/07/2017 11:17 PM, Frank Savery franksavery@... [LRRSA] wrote:

Hi Guys,

About 15 years ago, when I lived up in Sunny Queensland,I was Hon. Sec. of the S. E. Queensland branch of the LRRSA  and we had a nice guy who came every so often to give us a lecture and enthrall us with his photos of early Indonesian industrial steam locos.


He showed some fascinating photos of a small tank loco which had been converted to oil-firing and to store the fuel they had adopted the novel expedient of strapping a couple of 44-gallon oil drums up on top of the roof so that the diesel fuel fed by gravity into the firebox furnace.


I always liked the idea, and Now, I'd like to kitbash one of my small On30 steamers into an oil-fired loco using this idea, BUT, now, I can't remember If the two 44-gal drums were strapped up on top of the cab roof or on the top of the firebox in front of the cab.

...
-- 
Lynn Zelmer
Box 1414 Main Post Office
Rockhampton, QLD 4700 AUSTRALIA


Re: Indonesian oil-fired industrial tank loco

John Browning
 

Hi Frank

 

Top of the firebox in front of the cab was the usual spot.

Here is an example http://www.internationalsteam.co.uk/sweetdreams/display.htm?small=wringinanom&large=Wringinanom&number=06

 

I think you have a patient search through the relevant pages of Rob Dickinson’s International Steam site, you will probably find some more examples of what you are looking for. Here might be a good place to start http://www.internationalsteam.co.uk/sweetdreams/index.htm

 

If you email me off list, I can put you in contact with the gentleman you mention.

 

John

 


Indonesian oil-fired industrial tank loco

Frank Savery
 

Hi Guys,

About 15 years ago, when I lived up in Sunny Queensland,I was Hon. Sec. of the S. E. Queensland branch of the LRRSA  and we had a nice guy who came every so often to give us a lecture and enthrall us with his photos of early Indonesian industrial steam locos.


He showed some fascinating photos of a small tank loco which had been converted to oil-firing and to store the fuel they had adopted the novel expedient of strapping a couple of 44-gallon oil drums up on top of the roof so that the diesel fuel fed by gravity into the firebox furnace.


I always liked the idea, and Now, I'd like to kitbash one of my small On30 steamers into an oil-fired loco using this idea, BUT, now, I can't remember If the two 44-gal drums were strapped up on top of the cab roof or on the top of the firebox in front of the cab.


I wonder If anyone can recall seeing a photo of this kind of Indonesian 'backwoods' engineering on the internet, in a book or in a video ?


If so, I'd be very grateful If the could point me towards it.


Thanx. Much appreciated.

Frank Savery,

w-a-y down south in Tasmania


  


Re: Harwood sugar mill tramways.

Frank Stamford
 

Hello Chris,

There are a number of people who do maps for Light Railways. If you could reply to me direct with some more details of the type of map work you need I can make some enquiries and we should be able to find someone to do this.

Regards,

Frank 


On 2 Jul 2017, at 8:38 pm, c.tait@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:

 

I have now located the approximate locations of the two permanent tramways that operated out of the Harwood sugar mill in northern NSW, i'd like to do an article for the magazine but would like to know who does the coloured maps  and their contact details.

Chris


Harwood sugar mill tramways.

on30shayloco
 

I have now located the approximate locations of the two permanent tramways that operated out of the Harwood sugar mill in northern NSW, i'd like to do an article for the magazine but would like to know who does the coloured maps  and their contact details.

Chris


QSA Hard Batch guide

Petan
 

As many know, Queensland State Archives (QSA) have Hard Batch series of railway correspondence. These are large bundles of correspondence and often include the large track plan blue prints that are mentioned by the correspondence. They are wrapped in strong paper and bound in string.  The problem is knowing which one is of particular interest as some topics need several batch files eg there are over forty of these for the standard gauge ‘South Brisbane to Kyogle and Grafton’ files. Often thoughts such as ‘Needle in the Haystack’ come to mind.

 

My trip to QSA this week found the key to sorting all these as QSA have produced a guide book with the main topics within each hard batch file. The public research room has a computer section where you search the catalog and order your material. On the far wall of that computer area are various railway documents including staff lists and various red bound books including a nomenclature of railway stations guide. Look for “Guide to the Railway Department, Hard Batch Series of Correspondence 1867 -1960”. It covers the files for the various railway lines including some tramways such as the Belmont, Beaudesert and some Brisbane street tramway files. It is quite  a large document and I did not check if all lines are listed although it was very extensive and so I will be surprised if many are missing. I only photographed the lines of interest to me plus a couple of samples for other parts of QLD (Cloncurry area and Etheridge area samples). There are more Cloncurry and Etheridge files than I show in the PDF. The pages don’t have the present QSA item IDs so you need to take the book to the desk and they will decode it and order the item.

 

I have a PDF of the front cover, inside intro page and some sample pages on my Google drive. I reduced the individual page size to keep the total PDF size manageable as it is intended as  a quick introduction only   https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByB-ppGeDyvwRkdHVzVJdEdRQW8/view   

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley


Re: Broadbeach monorail tracks gone

Brad P
 

  Headed up there in two weeks.
  Had hoped to be there in time to get some shots.
  Guess I still have the light rail :-)

On 18 Jun 2017 7:24 PM, "'Peter Cokley' yahoomail@... [LRRSA]" <LRRSA@...> wrote:
 

Broadbeach monorail tracks across the Gold Coast highway at Broadbeach have been removed. No sign of the pylons or track this afternoon and the exit out of the eastern side shopping centre has might be a new or temporary  structure as a wall. Not sure when the tracks themselves went but the last run was Sunday 29 January 2017. Due to time restraints, we did not enter the shopping center to check if the carriages were up in the top floor depot eastern side. We also did not check the casino side although there is a lot of construction in that part of the casino area.

 

The following refer to the closure last January and most have probably seen these URLs before

 

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/news/gold-coast/longtime-driver-les-davis-says-goodbye-to-the-broadbeach-monorail-as-redevelopment-starts/news-story/778c824f098f51a3787505691113bf5f

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-30/broadbeach-monorail-closes-after-almost-three-decades/8224210

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley


Broadbeach monorail tracks gone

Petan
 

Broadbeach monorail tracks across the Gold Coast highway at Broadbeach have been removed. No sign of the pylons or track this afternoon and the exit out of the eastern side shopping centre has might be a new or temporary  structure as a wall. Not sure when the tracks themselves went but the last run was Sunday 29 January 2017. Due to time restraints, we did not enter the shopping center to check if the carriages were up in the top floor depot eastern side. We also did not check the casino side although there is a lot of construction in that part of the casino area.

 

The following refer to the closure last January and most have probably seen these URLs before

 

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/news/gold-coast/longtime-driver-les-davis-says-goodbye-to-the-broadbeach-monorail-as-redevelopment-starts/news-story/778c824f098f51a3787505691113bf5f

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-30/broadbeach-monorail-closes-after-almost-three-decades/8224210

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley


Re: : Construction railway - Sewerage tunnel under Dromana

Philip G Graham
 

I would be happy to be corrected, but perhaps there may have been locos which may have been out of the batch of Baldwin units of type DHC12M mk2 built 2/70 under Job 3225 for operation on the South Eastern Trunk Sewer.
There is a good description on pp61-62 of the excellent LRRSA publication "Built by Baldwin".
The gauge of the these units was 762 mm. These locos went on to have further careers with MM&BW.

-PGG-


Construction railway - Sewerage tunnel under Dromana

John Cleverdon <johnc@...>
 

Hello all,
I've just got email email from the Dromana & District Historical Society (http://home.vicnet.net.au/~dromana/) about a talk they are having this coming Tuesday (11am, Old Shire Offices, Point Nepean Road, Dromana - Melway 159 F7 for those interested) on the sewerage outfall tunnel under Dromana/Arthurs Seat.
It is part of Melbourne's South Eastern sewerage outfall (built in the 1970's), running from Carrum to Gunnamatta.
What makes it interesting is that the 2 photos in the flier show a light railway, gauge maybe a little under a metre?? (photos not too clear to work out exactly). If my father goes along I'll try and get him to take a few notes.

I won't be able to make it due to being too busy at work.

Regards,
John
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Mornington Peninsula, Victoria, Australia
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Re: Light Railways No.255 is in the mail

John Dennis
 

That's because the LRRSA Web Master has better things to do at the moment, as he is travelling on the Huritgruten Coastal Voyage up the coast of Norway. (Actually, I was hoping that nobody would notice!)

One day when I have some free time I shall attend to that.

John Dennis

On 9 June 2017 at 18:31, Brian Rumary brian@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:
 

Funny thing is that, while everyone seems to be emailing that "its just reached here", it still hasn't appeared on the LRRSA website!!

--
Brian Rumary
England
brian(at)rumary.co.uk



Re: Light Railways No.255 is in the mail

B.Rumary
 

Funny thing is that, while everyone seems to be emailing that "its just reached here", it still hasn't appeared on the LRRSA website!!

-- 
Brian Rumary
England
brian(at)rumary.co.uk

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