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Merredin Water Tower

David Halfpenny
 

I’m making a two foot tall model of the iconic “Kalgoorlie Bitter” tank at Merredin Station (as was) and I’m pondering how water got up and down it.

The similar tank at Kylie Siding seems to have three pipes, one from the bottom of the tank, one from the side, and one up the outside and over the rim:


Meanwhile, the also similar Cunderdin tank has two stout iron pipes (one broken) from the bottom plus an up-and-over supply pipe:


This picture of Merredin shows one segmental cast iron pipe about 9” in diameter:


But poring over a couple of dozen other pictures of the Kalgoorlie tank has failed to show me any more pipes.

What combination of pipework might there have been when Merredin was a working station, please?

Thanks,  

David 1/2d 
(too far away to nip along and look)


Re: : Light Railways No.252 posted today

Eddie Oliver
 

On 8/12/2016 09:14, 'Hunslet' hunslet@... [LRRSA] wrote:
 

“Light Railways” does not appear to be the only magazine suffering this serious deterioration in service by Australia  Post.


So true. However all the offending instances I encounter are dispatched from Melbourne, with other dispatch origins apparently unaffected.



Re: : Light Railways No.252 posted today

Hunslet
 

Frank,

“Light Railways” does not appear to be the only magazine suffering this serious deterioration in service by Australia  Post.

I also subscribe to another Australian railway magazine.   I still have not received my subscription copy of the September/October 2016 issue and finally had to purchase a replacement copy from my local newsagent.   The November/December issue has been on sale for the last couple of weeks, but my subscription copy has still not arrived.   Inquiry with the publisher resulted in a response of “be patient”.

Cheers

Peter Neve OAM

Junee, NSW

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2016 8:41 AM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Re:: Light Railways No.252 posted today

 

 


Hello Mark,

I do not think anyone in Australia has received their December Light Railways yet, even though it was posted on 29 November.

Copies have been received in the United Kingdom, but they go air mail at a much higher postal rate.

Regards,

Frank



On 8/12/2016 7:41 AM, mlinn_2@... [LRRSA] wrote:

 

Hi all,

Has anyone in South East Queensland received this edition of light rail yet.

It may just be Aus Post again.

regards
. Mark

 


Re: : Light Railways No.252 posted today

Ian Barnes
 

Same.  Two members in Batemans Bay, NSW, equally curious.

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2016 8:21 AM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] Re:: Light Railways No.252 posted today

 

 

Certainly NOT received in Junee, in southern NSW.

I’m curious as to all this discussion about the “Trove” fill-in’s, being unable to comment.

Hunslet

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2016 7:41 AM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: [LRRSA] Re:: Light Railways No.252 posted today

 

 

Hi all,

Has anyone in South East Queensland received this edition of light rail yet.

It may just be Aus Post again.

regards
. Mark


Re: : Light Railways No.252 posted today

Frank Stamford
 


Hello Hunslet,

The Trove fill-ins related to the October issue of LR, No.251 (pages 15 and 22).

There are no such fillers in the issue currently in the mail system.

Regards,

Frank

On 8/12/2016 8:20 AM, 'Hunslet' hunslet@... [LRRSA] wrote:
 

Certainly NOT received in Junee, in southern NSW.

I’m curious as to all this discussion about the “Trove” fill-in’s, being unable to comment.

Hunslet

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2016 7:41 AM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: [LRRSA] Re:: Light Railways No.252 posted today

 

 

Hi all,

Has anyone in South East Queensland received this edition of light rail yet.

It may just be Aus Post again.

regards
. Mark



Re: : Light Railways No.252 posted today

Frank Stamford
 


Hello Mark,

I do not think anyone in Australia has received their December Light Railways yet, even though it was posted on 29 November.

Copies have been received in the United Kingdom, but they go air mail at a much higher postal rate.

Regards,

Frank



On 8/12/2016 7:41 AM, mlinn_2@... [LRRSA] wrote:
 

Hi all,

Has anyone in South East Queensland received this edition of light rail yet.

It may just be Aus Post again.

regards
. Mark



Re: : Light Railways No.252 posted today

Hunslet
 

Certainly NOT received in Junee, in southern NSW.

I’m curious as to all this discussion about the “Trove” fill-in’s, being unable to comment.

Hunslet

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2016 7:41 AM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: [LRRSA] Re:: Light Railways No.252 posted today

 

 

Hi all,

Has anyone in South East Queensland received this edition of light rail yet.

It may just be Aus Post again.

regards
. Mark


Re: : Light Railways No.252 posted today

Mark Linnett
 

Hi all,

Has anyone in South East Queensland received this edition of light rail yet.

It may just be Aus Post again.

regards
. Mark


Rocky Pt mill sugar to Condong

Petan
 

Not rail related but both mills used tramways in the past so might be of interest. The URL provides the reason why Rocky Pt mill near Beenleigh QLD has to transport cane to Condong mill near Murwillumbah NSW.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-07/queensland-farmers-to-truck-cane-to-new-south-wales/8099594

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley

 


Re: : 'Treasures from Trove' in 'Light Railways' N0.251 October 2016

Frank Stamford
 


Hello all,

Thank you for all the feedback on the "Treasures from Trove". It has been very helpful.

From the responses received it seems that most readers are happy with that type of content, so it will continue when needed.

By their very nature space fillers often need to be created at very short notice and under time pressure, which is one reason why their presentation might not always be everything that we would like.

If you have any "Treasures from Trove" which you think would be suitable for publication in LR please send them to the editor (whose email address can be found at the top left of page 2 of "Light Railways"). Items that are quirky, have an element of humour, or hint at some previously forgotten information are especially welcome. (I think the Kingston item in LR 251 ticked all those boxes!).

Regards,

Frank
 

On 5/12/2016 7:52 AM, pickard6@... [LRRSA] wrote:
 

Wow, really?

Feedback like that kind of makes you realise how unfortunately pedantic some people really are.  

I thought the Trove bits were not out of place, and were interesting little breaks in the overall read.  They represented a historical review and impression, which is what much of the magazine content is about.  That type of article I find no different than say running an old example of advertising from a former era.

Perhaps publish a one off special edition for the source of the complaint...just leave those fillers out and deliver them a blank spot on the page.

Dan Pickard


ARHS NSW survey

Petan
 

ARHS NSW have an online survey by Director James Dalton. The URL is https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5MGK3XK

James wrote on Facebook (NSW Heritage Railway Stations and Infrastructure) ….. The Society has been around for a long time and is keen to remain relevant to "all who are interested in railways". James is a member of the ARHS board and am acting on their behalf. Your responses can be anonymous, but if you provide your name and e-mail address at the survey site, you go into the draw to win a $50 voucher at the ARHS bookshop. The December ARHS NSW members sheet notes they have a task force on this topic area run by James.

 

Apart from that, I have no interest in the survey and suggest any responses are on their survey tool rather than here. My only link is I have been an ARHS NSW member since the 1970s.

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley


Re: : 'Treasures from Trove' in 'Light Railways' N0.251 October 2016

Dan Pickard
 

Ha,
Full stop...looks a bit like a rivet :)

Cheers,
Dan Pickard


Re: : 'Treasures from Trove' in 'Light Railways' N0.251 October 2016

sncs@...
 

Hi All, 

An interesting discussion - there must have been some great debate between the editorial team to decide to throw it open to the readership!

I'm in the not keen on it camp - while space fillers are a necessary part of filling awkward spaces, to use two of the same style "Treasures from Trove" in five pages caught my eye in a not pleasant way.

If perhaps on of them had been a "house ad" for LR subscriptions, or a reminder to late renewals to get the membership figures up, it wouldn't have stood out so much. Using two of the same format stuck out as being a very much last minute throw something at it. They were both difficult size spaces to deal with, at a quick glance, both the items would have fitted on the one page and made a much neater job of it, in the form of a "Looking Back" but caused layout issues elsewhere. I'm certainly not going to get too hung up on that, Bruce always does a great job with the layout and considers these things and offers alternatives.

I am absolutely a firm believer in referencing Trove, and encouraging readers to go looking - Stuart has always done a great job of this in his Research column, flicking back over his last three years worth will highlight that - as will looking at Bob's prior to that.

Editing the magazine is a tough gig - bear in mind while Richard and Andrew are the most experienced members of the team, the Associate Editors have only been in the game six months, and it takes a while to settle into.

As for pedantry Dan, this barely rates, I once had an author withdraw an article because I deleted a few full stops!

Regards, 

Scott (with my former editor hat on)





Re: 'Treasures from Trove' in 'Light Railways' N0.251 October 2016

David Whiteford
 

Lots of comments in favour of such ‘fillers’ and add me to the list. When I was a magazine editor I found it great to have something on hand to fill space – you never know when contributions will be insufficient. I have already submitted a WA ‘Trove’ piece for use as a filler. I agree that such items could stimulate research or allow a minor light railway, which may not warrant further research, to be recorded in LR.
 
David Whiteford
 

From: frank.stamford@... [LRRSA]
Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 1:46 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: [LRRSA] 'Treasures from Trove' in 'Light Railways' N0.251 October 2016
 
 

 

Hello to all readers of 'Light Railways',

 

The Light Railways editorial team is looking for some feedback from readers on the two ‘Treasures from Trove’ items in LR 251, October 2016. These were ‘New Mountain Railway’ on page 15, and ‘Kingston’ on page 22.

 

The editor received comments from one reader that the items ‘jarred with me and broke up the flow of the magazine’.

 

These were last minute space fillers, which the editors thought would be of interest to readers. Consequently we were planning to continue using such items as space fillers. But if many readers find them jarring we might have to review that.

 

Regards,

Frank

(wearing LR Associate Editor hat)



Re: : 'Treasures from Trove' in 'Light Railways' N0.251 October 2016

Dan Pickard
 

Wow, really?
Feedback like that kind of makes you realise how unfortunately pedantic some people really are.  

I thought the Trove bits were not out of place, and were interesting little breaks in the overall read.  They represented a historical review and impression, which is what much of the magazine content is about.  That type of article I find no different than say running an old example of advertising from a former era.

Perhaps publish a one off special edition for the source of the complaint...just leave those fillers out and deliver them a blank spot on the page.

Dan Pickard


Re: 'Treasures from Trove' in 'Light Railways' N0.251 October 2016

Petan
 

My experience is some of these fillers in LR and ARH actually are very interesting so please keep them coming. They provide a nice contrast to the more extensive articles and so add some variety and enrichment.

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Monday, 5 December 2016 5:47 AM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] 'Treasures from Trove' in 'Light Railways' N0.251 October 2016

 

Frank,

I had a Light Railways reader come to my office at ARHS last week with a complaint about the layout of this issue with the so-called ‘fillers’, but I had some difficulty in understanding why this was an issue! Using ‘fillers’ is a key component of the layout for Australian Railway History.

Regards

Bob McKillop

Editor: Australian Railway History


Re: 'Treasures from Trove' in 'Light Railways' N0.251 October 2016

denis.wasley
 

As the former editor of Australian Steam Power magazine, I grabbed fillers wherever I could find them. They are essential to any magazine.

Would suggest if anyone is “offended” by the fillers used, they send in their own for the LR editors to consider inclusion.

Cheers

Denis  Wasley

Berri SA

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Monday, 5 December 2016 6:17 AM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] 'Treasures from Trove' in 'Light Railways' N0.251 October 2016

 

 

Frank,

I had a Light Railways reader come to my office at ARHS last week with a complaint about the layout of this issue with the so-called ‘fillers’, but I had some difficulty in understanding why this was an issue! Using ‘fillers’ is a key component of the layout for Australian Railway History.

 

Regards

Bob McKillop

Editor: Australian Railway History

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Sunday, 4 December 2016 4:47 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: [LRRSA] 'Treasures from Trove' in 'Light Railways' N0.251 October 2016

 

 

 

Hello to all readers of 'Light Railways',

 

The Light Railways editorial team is looking for some feedback from readers on the two ‘Treasures from Trove’ items in LR 251, October 2016. These were ‘New Mountain Railway’ on page 15, and ‘Kingston’ on page 22.

 

The editor received comments from one reader that the items ‘jarred with me and broke up the flow of the magazine’.

 

These were last minute space fillers, which the editors thought would be of interest to readers. Consequently we were planning to continue using such items as space fillers. But if many readers find them jarring we might have to review that.

 

Regards,

Frank

(wearing LR Associate Editor hat)

 


Re: 'Treasures from Trove' in 'Light Railways' N0.251 October 2016

BM
 

Frank,

I had a Light Railways reader come to my office at ARHS last week with a complaint about the layout of this issue with the so-called ‘fillers’, but I had some difficulty in understanding why this was an issue! Using ‘fillers’ is a key component of the layout for Australian Railway History.

 

Regards

Bob McKillop

Editor: Australian Railway History

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Sunday, 4 December 2016 4:47 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: [LRRSA] 'Treasures from Trove' in 'Light Railways' N0.251 October 2016

 

 

 

Hello to all readers of 'Light Railways',

 

The Light Railways editorial team is looking for some feedback from readers on the two ‘Treasures from Trove’ items in LR 251, October 2016. These were ‘New Mountain Railway’ on page 15, and ‘Kingston’ on page 22.

 

The editor received comments from one reader that the items ‘jarred with me and broke up the flow of the magazine’.

 

These were last minute space fillers, which the editors thought would be of interest to readers. Consequently we were planning to continue using such items as space fillers. But if many readers find them jarring we might have to review that.

 

Regards,

Frank

(wearing LR Associate Editor hat)

 


Re: 'Treasures from Trove' in 'Light Railways' N0.251 October 2016

rthorne475
 

Frank,

I also am at a loss to understand how these two fillers can be objected to.  Depending on personal taste, they are as interesting or uninteresting as any other article.

In my view, if anything 'jarred with and broke up the flow of the magazine', it was the two pages given over to GPS.  I would have been happy with a brief paragraph…and, oh dear,  we are promised a follow up article!

Regards,

Richard Horne
England



From: "frank.stamford@... [LRRSA]" <LRRSA@...>
To: LRRSA@...
Sent: Sunday, 4 December 2016, 5:46
Subject: [LRRSA] 'Treasures from Trove' in 'Light Railways' N0.251 October 2016

 

Hello to all readers of 'Light Railways',
 
The Light Railways editorial team is looking for some feedback from readers on the two ‘Treasures from Trove’ items in LR 251, October 2016. These were ‘New Mountain Railway’ on page 15, and ‘Kingston’ on page 22.

The editor received comments from one reader that the items ‘jarred with me and broke up the flow of the magazine’.

These were last minute space fillers, which the editors thought would be of interest to readers. Consequently we were planning to continue using such items as space fillers. But if many readers find them jarring we might have to review that.
 
Regards,
Frank
(wearing LR Associate Editor hat)




Re: 'Treasures from Trove' in 'Light Railways' N0.251 October 2016

Chris Stratton
 

I thought they were interesting and worth reading

 

Regards,

Chris

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Sunday, 4 December 2016 4:47 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: [LRRSA] 'Treasures from Trove' in 'Light Railways' N0.251 October 2016

 




 

Hello to all readers of 'Light Railways',

 

The Light Railways editorial team is looking for some feedback from readers on the two ‘Treasures from Trove’ items in LR 251, October 2016. These were ‘New Mountain Railway’ on page 15, and ‘Kingston’ on page 22.

 

The editor received comments from one reader that the items ‘jarred with me and broke up the flow of the magazine’.

 

These were last minute space fillers, which the editors thought would be of interest to readers. Consequently we were planning to continue using such items as space fillers. But if many readers find them jarring we might have to review that.

 

Regards,

Frank

(wearing LR Associate Editor hat)

 




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