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Re: Recycled plastic sleepers

denis.wasley
 

G’Day Michael,
We were given a couple to see if we could use them. They sat around for some time while we decided what to do.
I think that during the first spell of hot weather, they became very plastic and I wonder if they would have held a dog spike.
We never did put them in the track and I don’t know what happened to them. They were 2 foot gauge.
 
We have just installed plastic treads on the Humphrey Pump catwalk for the surge towers. Will be interesting to see how they go.
We will be having 45 degree days next week, which could be a good test.
 
cheers
Denis
Cobdogla Steam Friends Society Inc.
 

Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 4:48 PM
Subject: [LRRSA] Recycled plastic sleepers
 
 

Does anyone have knowledge about the use of plastic sleepers made from recycled materials in Australia? I believe that I have heard of their use, at least experimentally, on some cane railways. There also seems to be a growing trend in the US for their use on mainlines. I am primarily interested in their use as point and crossing timbers as we are using concrete sleepers for plain track.

 

Given the increasing use of concrete sleepers on mainline railways it is getting harder to get decent second hand wooden ones. The heritage sector with its low speeds and axle loads should be able make good use of plastic sleepers. I wonder how resistant they are to ash from steam locomotives.

 

Regards,

Michael Milway

Illawarra Light Railway Museum Society.


Recycled plastic sleepers

Michael Milway
 

Does anyone have knowledge about the use of plastic sleepers made from recycled materials in Australia? I believe that I have heard of their use, at least experimentally, on some cane railways. There also seems to be a growing trend in the US for their use on mainlines. I am primarily interested in their use as point and crossing timbers as we are using concrete sleepers for plain track.

 

Given the increasing use of concrete sleepers on mainline railways it is getting harder to get decent second hand wooden ones. The heritage sector with its low speeds and axle loads should be able make good use of plastic sleepers. I wonder how resistant they are to ash from steam locomotives.

 

Regards,

Michael Milway

Illawarra Light Railway Museum Society.


Re: : Re: Re:: John Kerr's notes online

A C Lynn Zelmer
 

Hi John

Firefox 44.0.2 with Mac OS X 10.6.8.

Each file showed up as teo temporary pdf files in my download directory until they were fully downloaded, then one large file appeared with the proper icon, extension, etc.

   Lynn


Hi Lynn,

...

Very confusing. Which browser are you using?

John

On 19 February 2016 at 15:18, A C Lynn Zelmer lynn@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:
 

Fantastic resource, likely thousands of pages of esoteric information, with variable reading quality depending upon the quality of the original page. I haven't found an index yet, and suspect that there may not be one. Still potentially quite useful if looking for when/where a particular industry had a siding, or when a station/loop opened/closed, etc., etc., etc.

And I had no trouble downloading as pdf... simply selected the online option as directed in the initial e-mail and had a list of download links to the eight volumes, all of which came down as pdf files. Certainly big files, some took more than 30 minutes, obviously depending on the demand of the system and my neighbourhood video downloaders.

Happy reading
   Lynn

On 18/02/16 10:08 PM, yahoomail@... [LRRSA] wrote:

The save process, after you have downloaded, requires you to use your computer's **print** function and print it as a PDF and save the PDF. Not sure how to manage if you don't have the ability to print it as a PDF.

Note I said to use the print function, as saving it otherwise might only get the website page not the file. How do others manage?

Cheers
Peter Cokley
_,_._,___
...

-- 
Lynn Zelmer
Box 1414 Main Post Office
Rockhampton, QLD 4700 AUSTRALIA




-- 
Lynn Zelmer
Box 1414 Main Post Office
Rockhampton, QLD 4700 AUSTRALIA


Re: : Re: Re:: John Kerr's notes online

John Dennis
 

Whoops. Hold that thought. Vol 7 just saved as a PDF. Perhaps I was trying to save them before they had fully downloaded?  I shall continue with the other volumes and see what happens.

John

On 19 February 2016 at 15:41, John Dennis <jdennis412@...> wrote:
Hi Lynn,

Perhaps it's a browser thing, or related to the size of the file. I was able to save vol 8 as a PDF after opening in the browser, but clicking on the links in the Online tab only ever shows an html file being saved (for me), which means the only option is opening them in the browser and then saving. Volume 8 worked fine that way - the little floppy disk icon worked to save the file, but with Volumes 1 and 7 that icon also only shows an html result. 

In my case for vols 1 and 7 printing to Cute PDF Writer, Adobe PDF, or saving as PDF results in a file with nothing but blank pages, and only hundreds of Kb in size, when it should be hundreds of Mb.

Very confusing. Which browser are you using?

John

On 19 February 2016 at 15:18, A C Lynn Zelmer lynn@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:
 

Fantastic resource, likely thousands of pages of esoteric information, with variable reading quality depending upon the quality of the original page. I haven't found an index yet, and suspect that there may not be one. Still potentially quite useful if looking for when/where a particular industry had a siding, or when a station/loop opened/closed, etc., etc., etc.

And I had no trouble downloading as pdf... simply selected the online option as directed in the initial e-mail and had a list of download links to the eight volumes, all of which came down as pdf files. Certainly big files, some took more than 30 minutes, obviously depending on the demand of the system and my neighbourhood video downloaders.

Happy reading
   Lynn

On 18/02/16 10:08 PM, yahoomail@... [LRRSA] wrote:

The save process, after you have downloaded, requires you to use your computer's **print** function and print it as a PDF and save the PDF. Not sure how to manage if you don't have the ability to print it as a PDF.

Note I said to use the print function, as saving it otherwise might only get the website page not the file. How do others manage?

Cheers
Peter Cokley
_,_._,___
...

--
Lynn Zelmer
Box 1414 Main Post Office
Rockhampton, QLD 4700 AUSTRALIA




Re: : Re: Re:: John Kerr's notes online

John Dennis
 

Hi Lynn,

Perhaps it's a browser thing, or related to the size of the file. I was able to save vol 8 as a PDF after opening in the browser, but clicking on the links in the Online tab only ever shows an html file being saved (for me), which means the only option is opening them in the browser and then saving. Volume 8 worked fine that way - the little floppy disk icon worked to save the file, but with Volumes 1 and 7 that icon also only shows an html result. 

In my case for vols 1 and 7 printing to Cute PDF Writer, Adobe PDF, or saving as PDF results in a file with nothing but blank pages, and only hundreds of Kb in size, when it should be hundreds of Mb.

Very confusing. Which browser are you using?

John

On 19 February 2016 at 15:18, A C Lynn Zelmer lynn@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:
 

Fantastic resource, likely thousands of pages of esoteric information, with variable reading quality depending upon the quality of the original page. I haven't found an index yet, and suspect that there may not be one. Still potentially quite useful if looking for when/where a particular industry had a siding, or when a station/loop opened/closed, etc., etc., etc.

And I had no trouble downloading as pdf... simply selected the online option as directed in the initial e-mail and had a list of download links to the eight volumes, all of which came down as pdf files. Certainly big files, some took more than 30 minutes, obviously depending on the demand of the system and my neighbourhood video downloaders.

Happy reading
   Lynn

On 18/02/16 10:08 PM, yahoomail@... [LRRSA] wrote:

The save process, after you have downloaded, requires you to use your computer's **print** function and print it as a PDF and save the PDF. Not sure how to manage if you don't have the ability to print it as a PDF.

Note I said to use the print function, as saving it otherwise might only get the website page not the file. How do others manage?

Cheers
Peter Cokley
_,_._,___
...

--
Lynn Zelmer
Box 1414 Main Post Office
Rockhampton, QLD 4700 AUSTRALIA



Re: : Re: Re:: John Kerr's notes online

A C Lynn Zelmer
 

Fantastic resource, likely thousands of pages of esoteric information, with variable reading quality depending upon the quality of the original page. I haven't found an index yet, and suspect that there may not be one. Still potentially quite useful if looking for when/where a particular industry had a siding, or when a station/loop opened/closed, etc., etc., etc.

And I had no trouble downloading as pdf... simply selected the online option as directed in the initial e-mail and had a list of download links to the eight volumes, all of which came down as pdf files. Certainly big files, some took more than 30 minutes, obviously depending on the demand of the system and my neighbourhood video downloaders.

Happy reading
   Lynn

On 18/02/16 10:08 PM, yahoomail@... [LRRSA] wrote:
The save process, after you have downloaded, requires you to use your computer's **print** function and print it as a PDF and save the PDF. Not sure how to manage if you don't have the ability to print it as a PDF.

Note I said to use the print function, as saving it otherwise might only get the website page not the file. How do others manage?

Cheers
Peter Cokley
_,_._,___
...

-- 
Lynn Zelmer
Box 1414 Main Post Office
Rockhampton, QLD 4700 AUSTRALIA


FW: [trove-announce] FW: Newspaper titles recently added to Trove

John Browning
 

For information.

-----Original Message-----
From: trove-announce-request@nla.gov.au
[mailto:trove-announce-request@nla.gov.au] On Behalf Of Catriona Bryce
Sent: Friday, 19 February 2016 9:17 AM
To: trove-announce-l <trove-announce@listserver.nla.gov.au>
Subject: [trove-announce] FW: Newspaper titles recently added to Trove

Hi all,
There are new newspapers in Trove for you to enjoy. Find them here:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper?q=
Also, just to remind you, Trove will be unavailable from 5pm AEDT 22
February until 25 February for one of the largest upgrades in our history.
All these lovely newspapers will be available when we return.
Happy Troveing,
Catriona

NSW
The Australian Workman (Sydney, NSW : 1890 - 1897) The Bird O' Freedom
(Sydney, NSW : 1891 - 1896) The Dead Bird (Sydney, NSW : 1889 - 1891) Dutch
Australian Weekly (Sydney, NSW : 1951 - 1993) Dutch Weekly (Sydney, NSW :
1993 - 2004) The Workers' Weekly (Sydney, NSW : 1923 - 1939)

QLD
Balonne Beacon (St. George, Qld. : 1909 - 1954) The Beaudesert Times (Qld. :
1908 - 1954) Brisbane Telegraph (Qld. : 1948 - 1954) The Bundaberg Mail
(Qld. : 1917 - 1925) The Bundaberg Mail and Burnett Advertiser (Qld. : 1892
- 1917) The Daily Mail (Brisbane, Qld. : 1903 - 1926) The Daily Northern
Argus (Rockhampton, Qld. : 1875 - 1896) The Dalby Herald (Qld. : 1910 -
1954) Dalby Herald and Western Queensland Advertiser (Qld. : 1886 - 1879)
The Evening Advocate (Innisfail, Qld. : 1941 - 1954) The Evening Telegraph
(Charters Towers, Qld. : 1901 - 1921) Johnstone River Advocate (Geraldton,
Qld. : 1906 - 1908) Johnstone River Advocate and Innisfail News (Qld. : 1928
- 1941) Northern Argus (Rockhampton, Qld. : 1865 - 1874) The St. George
Standard and Balonne Advertiser (Qld. : 1878 - 1879; 1902 - 1904) The
Toowoomba Chronicle and Queensland Advertiser (Qld. : 1861 - 1875) Toowoomba
Chronicle and Darling Downs General Advertiser (Qld. : 1875 - 1902)

SA
Australian Christian Commonwealth (SA : 1901 - 1940) Blyth Agriculturist (SA
: 1908 - 1954) Border Chronicle (Bordertown, SA : 1908 - 1950) Christian
Colonist (SA : 1878 - 1894) Critic (Adelaide, SA : 1897-1924) The Express
(Adelaide, SA : 1922 - 1923) Glenelg Guardian (SA : 1914 - 1954) The Pennant
(Penola, SA : 1946 - 1954) Port Adelaide News (SA : 1904) Port Adelaide News
(SA :1913 - 1933) Quorn Mercury (SA : 1895 - 1954) Sport (Adelaide, SA :
1911 - 1948) The Terowie Enterprise (SA : 1884 - 1891) Yorke's Peninsula
Advertiser (SA : 1878 - 1922) Yorke's Peninsula Advertiser and Miners' and
Farmers' Journal (SA : 1875 - 1878) Yorke's Peninsula Advertiser and Miners'
News (SA : 1872 - 1874)

TAS
The Coastal News and North Western Advertiser (Ulverstone, Tas. : 1890 -
1893) Deloraine - Westbury Advocate (Ulverstone, Tas. : 1893 - 1894) The
Derwent Star and Van Diemen's Land Intelligencer (Hobart, Tas. : 1810 -
1812) King Island News (Currie, King Island : 1912 - 1954) The North Coast
Standard (Latrobe, Tas. : 1890 - 1894) The North Western Chronicle (Latrobe,
Tas. : 1887 - 1888)

Vic
The Colonial Mining Journal, Railway and Share Gazette (Vic. : 1858 - 1859)
The Colonial Mining Journal, Railway and Share Gazette and Illustrated
Record (Melbourne, Vic. : 1859 - 1861)

WA
The Australian (Perth, WA : 1917 - 1923) The Avon Gazette and Kellerberrin
News (WA : 1914 - 1916) The Avon Gazette and York Times (WA : 1916 - 1930)
The Blackwood Times (Bunbury, WA : 1905 - 1920; 1945 - 1954) Coolgardie
Miner (WA : 1894 - 1917) The Leonora Miner (WA : 1910 - 1928) Narrogin
Observer (WA : 1952 - 1954) The Northam Advertiser (WA : 1895 - 1918; 1948 -
1954) The Pingelly Leader (WA : 1906 - 1925) Pingelly-Brookton Leader (WA :
1925 - 1926) The Southern Districts Advocate (Katanning, WA : 1913 - 1936)
The Sun (Kalgoorlie, WA : 1898 - 1919) The W.A. Record (Perth, WA : 1888 -
1922) Yilgarn Merredin Times (Southern Cross, WA : 1921 - 1923)

Catriona Bryce | Manager, Libraries Australia and Trove marketing and
communications | National Collections Access National Library of Australia,
Parkes Place, Canberra ACT 2600 | catrona.bryce@nla.gov.au


Re: : Re: Re:: John Kerr's notes online

Petan
 

The save process, after you have downloaded, requires you to use your computer's **print** function and print it as a PDF and save the PDF. Not sure how to manage if you don't have the ability to print it as a PDF.

Note I said to use the print function, as saving it otherwise might only get the website page not the file. How do others manage?

Cheers
Peter Cokley


Re: : John Kerr's notes online

John Dennis
 

I downloaded it Peter, but I couldn't work out how to save it as a PDF.  Hints would be useful.

John

On 18 February 2016 at 21:17, yahoomail@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:
 

 
I have been advised the first volume is 555mb, quite a large download and may be too large for some people.

Cheers
Peter cokley



Re: : John Kerr's notes online

Petan
 

 
I have been advised the first volume is 555mb, quite a large download and may be too large for some people.

Cheers
Peter cokley


John Kerr's notes online

Petan
 

Following is quote from State Library QLD (SLQ) Facebook. When you open the SLQ link you will see the online option, which, when clicked, shows the download  URL for each PDF.

 Queensland railway enthusiasts will be excited to discover that SLQ has digitised an 8 volume set called "Notes on Queensland railways" which was compiled by respected historian John Douglas Kerr between 1966 and 1972. Kerr's notes were compiled from a multitude of resources including newspapers, periodicals, annual reports, parliamentary papers and railway timetables. These eight volumes can be viewed in their entirety through our OneSearch catalogue -http://buzz.mw/baxbz_n


http://onesearch.slq.qld.gov.au/primo_library/libweb/action/dlDisplay.do?vid=SLQ&search_scope=SLQ_PCI_EBSCO&docId=slq_alma21124871410002061&fn=permalink 


Cheers 

Peter Cokley



Re: : Tweed Tramway RSJ bridge

Peter Evans
 

Hi Peter,


Could you please send a hi-res image of the Tweed tramway bridge to fieldreports@...?


Cheers,

PeterE.


Re: : OFF TOPIC; News from the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway

Terry
 

How good to read such a positive report about volunteers on a heritage railway. Sadly the heritage railway to which I belong in Australia is very much in the doldrums with serious bush fire damage and a couple of wash-aways  of track. Services have been suspended and the volunteer work force is, by necessity, mostly idle and dispirited while waiting slow responses from insurers.
Good luck with your work.
I hope to visit you and ride your trains in August or September.
Terry Boardman 


OFF TOPIC; News from the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway

Michael C.
 

Dear all,
 
Last weekend was the start of Volunteer's week at the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway in Porthmadog, North Wales.
 
At this time of year you could be forgiven for thinking the railway is in hibernation; our shop is closed and no trains are running. So from the outside it looks like we have shut-up-shop; however, you could not be more wrong.
 

Behind the scenes, people were working on the 2016 leaflet, getting it printed and distributed, placing adverts here-there-and-everywhere and working with North Wales businesses to raise awareness of what we are about and what we have planned for 2016.

 

Gelert’s Farm was a hive of activity; in the big shed a dedicated team of young volunteers were cleaning Russell and Gertrude for their boiler inspections; Russell has had a different Westinghouse air pump fitted; Emma’s bonnet was off and the engine was in pieces having a minor oil leak attended to, the replica NWNGR covered wagon was stripped and ready to be re-painted, carriage 42 was waiting to have some rotten wood replaced, Gelert’s bottom end was being looked at and measured – there’s a new boiler going soon…

 

People were working on the World War One diorama in the museum; there will be a flat screen television inside a replica period building and the WW1 internal combustion locomotives are to be posed outside.

 

A plan had been prepared to deal with a leak in the roof of the Ashbury carriage, and the PW gang were working on the track by the coal dock.

 

Your humble scribe had a bit of a eureka moment on Sunday; it was the realisation that railways are not just track, carriages and locomotives, they are PEOPLE; those individuals who work behind the scenes to make sure everything works okay, the volunteers who meet and great, run the trains and work tirelessly to make sure everything works on a day-to-day basis.

 

On the Sunday I photographed the permanent way gang working on the track; they were spot re-sleepering and shovel-packing by the coal dock. In my mind what made this event so special was there were three regulars and four much younger volunteers. The older volunteers were explaining how to shovel pack and where trains exert the most force on the track. You could see the youngsters soaking up the information and learning whilst they worked. The teamwork was really brilliant to see!

 

Away from the railway in the ‘real’ world I am a Job Coach with Job Centre Plus (Centre Link as you would say); one of the things I regularly have to do is build CVs for job seekers. This set me thinking… imagine you an employer and in front of you there are two applicants. ‘So what did you do during the half-term holidays?’ The first says I watched TV. The second says I worked as part of a small team doing voluntary work for a charity – I learned new skills and gained practical experience working in engineering, track-laying, woodwork and painting. Who would you employ?

 

Seeing all these people working together to make the railway a success was quite inspirational – there was a real sense of togetherness and camaraderie. This was reinforced by everyone eating together in the mess room and then having a well-earned drink.

 

Volunteer’s week couldn't have happened without everyone working together but the person who managed to organise everyone, assign tasks, motivate the team AND do the cooking was our volunteer co-ordinator. So hats off to him!

 

A selection of photos can be seen here.

 
 
Take a look if you're interested.
 
Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
Follow me on Twitter @mikenarrowgauge
Support the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WHHRly


Trove

Petan
 

Trove will be off from 22 FEB to 25 February 2016 then Trove 7 will be launched.


Cheers

Peter Cokley

Trove 7 is coming!!



Re: : RE: : Re: Light Railways No.247 posted

Chris Stratton
 

And it finally arrived in Wollongong yesterday (Monday).

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 9 February 2016 12:28 AM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: Re: : RE: : Re: [LRRSA] Light Railways No.247 posted

 




LR 247 delivered here, in the UK, today…and dry, too, in spite of gales and lashing rain!

 

Richard Horne

 


From: "dickwho1@... [LRRSA]" <LRRSA@...>
To: LRRSA@...
Sent: Friday, 5 February 2016, 10:57
Subject: Re: : RE: : Re: [LRRSA] Light Railways No.247 posted

 

 

My copy arrived in Broken Hill this AM (Friday).

 

Which really is amazing as we get mail posted a week ago in Sydney, today.

 

Dick

 



On 5 Feb 2016, at 20:55, ta1712@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:

 

Nor arrived in downtown Dapto as yet.

 





Re: : RE: : Re: Light Railways No.247 posted

rthorne475
 

LR 247 delivered here, in the UK, today…and dry, too, in spite of gales and lashing rain!

Richard Horne



From: "dickwho1@... [LRRSA]"
To: LRRSA@...
Sent: Friday, 5 February 2016, 10:57
Subject: Re: : RE: : Re: [LRRSA] Light Railways No.247 posted

 
My copy arrived in Broken Hill this AM (Friday).

Which really is amazing as we get mail posted a week ago in Sydney, today.

Dick



On 5 Feb 2016, at 20:55, ta1712@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:

 
Nor arrived in downtown Dapto as yet.



Re: Yarloop Steam Heritage Museum 2009 photos

John Dennis
 

I have been to Yarloop (the town), as recently as September 2015, but were a bit short of time so didn't stop. We plan to visit Perth and the South-West again shortly, and decided we would do Yarloop workshops then.  Silly decision in retrospect...

John

On 7 February 2016 at 16:44, Geoff Potter potgeoff@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:
 

Bill,
I had never seen Yarloop, and now greatly regret my not having gotten there. Your photographs are a great record, thanks,
Geoff Potter


On Sunday, 7 February 2016, 11:34, "Bill Daniels trailerail@... [LRRSA]" <LRRSA@...> wrote:


 
Howdy,
I posted 24 photos to this site yesterday - hope they are of interest, given the enormous loss due to the recent bushfire.
I have a number more from the pattern shop, and of saw milling equipment.
Regards,
Bill




Re: Photograph sought

A C Lynn Zelmer
 

"Australia Wide" on ABC's 24 hour TV news network had an item (first item) last evening on the Yarloop fire, complete with some vision of the destroyed workshops:
     http://www.abc.net.au/news/programs/australia-wide/

Lynn

On 2/02/16 7:11 PM, chapmanmchapman@... [LRRSA] wrote:
Dear all,
 
In the UK there is a magazine called Narrow Gauge World.
 
 
The editor has asked if anyone has a photograph of the destroyed workshops following the tragic fire in Yarloop.
 
Can anyone assist?
 ...


-- 
Lynn Zelmer
Box 1414 Main Post Office
Rockhampton, QLD 4700 AUSTRALIA


Re: Yarloop Steam Heritage Museum 2009 photos

Geoff Potter <potgeoff@...>
 

Bill,
I had never seen Yarloop, and now greatly regret my not having gotten there. Your photographs are a great record, thanks,
Geoff Potter


On Sunday, 7 February 2016, 11:34, "Bill Daniels trailerail@... [LRRSA]" wrote:


 
Howdy,
I posted 24 photos to this site yesterday - hope they are of interest, given the enormous loss due to the recent bushfire.
I have a number more from the pattern shop, and of saw milling equipment.
Regards,
Bill


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