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Yarra Ranges Shire - aerial photography

John Cleverdon <johnc@...>
 

Hello all,
Something that may be of interest. Yarra Ranges Shire (Melbourne's eastern side) has an online Geographic Information System website at:
http://www.mapimage.net/IntraMaps75/ApplicationEngine/Application.aspx?project=Yarra+Ranges&configId=bf9bd338-12aa-43f2-95aa-a491de0b3a8d
and this includes high-resolution aerial photos only a couple of years old.

To view the photos, zoom in to your area of interest, go to the 'Layers' box (bottom left of website), and tick the 'Aerial imagery' or '2013/2014 Aerial imagery' boxes while unticking the 'Crown land' and 'Property base' boxes.

Regards,
John
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John Cleverdon
Mornington Peninsula, Victoria, Australia
John's web page: http://users.cdi.com.au/~johnc/
LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/pub/john-cleverdon/a/a81/2b

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Re: : Re: OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge

sncs@...
 

Hi Michael, 

As it turns out, we were over there too for a friend's birthday - it was a fantastic experience!

We also stayed in Goslar which had a silver mine that operated for a thousand years, and has great underground tours, great fun.

Departing Einsfelder Tahmule on the steam hauled trip back to Wernigerode parallel to the rail motor departure was a fantastic experience!

Regards, 

Scott


Re: OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge

Michael C.
 

My first visit to the Harz was in 2010 when there was snow...

More images can be seen here:

https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/55958391@N07/sets/72157644704415275/

Take a look if you're interested.

Cheers,

Michael Chapman

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"'nconder' nconder@... [LRRSA]" <LRRSA@...> wrote:

 

Must be the only railway where the conductor checks your ticket and sells alcohol. Needed it when I went to Elsfelder Talmuhle as it was raining and cold and they had the steam heating on and it was early September last year. I thought that section was better than the Brocken but Brocken would look great in the snow. On the trip from Alexisbad to Quedlinburg we had the iconic 2-6-2 pulling the train. A very well run railway. One off the bucket list but would be good to see in the snow.
Neville Conder
 

Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2016 11:46 AM
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge
 
 

Michael,

Many thanks for sharing these images via the LRRSA Group. I have enjoyed them immensely and I envy your opportunity to experience this wonderful operation first-hand.

Cheers

Bob McKillop

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Saturday, 2 January 2016 12:10 AM
To: lrrsa@...
Subject: [LRRSA] OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge

 

Happy New Year!

Greetings from the United Kingdom.

Over Christmas I travelled to Germany via train to visit the metre-gauge Harzer Schmalspurbahnen.

I liked it so much I rode it twice on two separate days. Their articulated 2-10-2 locomotives are amazing. There was also a Mallet locomotive built in 1898 by Arn Jung in steam.

On the second day I caught a train to the top of the Brocken. Sadly there was no snow this year but it was zero degrees C on the top and when you add the wind-chill factor it felt much colder.

I have uploaded a collection of images to Flickr.

Going even further off-topic, pages 3 and 4 of the album show the modern trains (and a tram) used to get to Germany, travel around the Harz, and get back to the UK.

Take a look if you are interested.

Kind regards for 2016.

Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
Follow me on Twitter @mikenarrowgauge
Support the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WHHRly


Re: OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge

neville conder
 

Must be the only railway where the conductor checks your ticket and sells alcohol. Needed it when I went to Elsfelder Talmuhle as it was raining and cold and they had the steam heating on and it was early September last year. I thought that section was better than the Brocken but Brocken would look great in the snow. On the trip from Alexisbad to Quedlinburg we had the iconic 2-6-2 pulling the train. A very well run railway. One off the bucket list but would be good to see in the snow.
Neville Conder
 

Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2016 11:46 AM
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge
 
 

Michael,

Many thanks for sharing these images via the LRRSA Group. I have enjoyed them immensely and I envy your opportunity to experience this wonderful operation first-hand.

Cheers

Bob McKillop

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Saturday, 2 January 2016 12:10 AM
To: lrrsa@...
Subject: [LRRSA] OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge

 

Happy New Year!

Greetings from the United Kingdom.

Over Christmas I travelled to Germany via train to visit the metre-gauge Harzer Schmalspurbahnen.

I liked it so much I rode it twice on two separate days. Their articulated 2-10-2 locomotives are amazing. There was also a Mallet locomotive built in 1898 by Arn Jung in steam.

On the second day I caught a train to the top of the Brocken. Sadly there was no snow this year but it was zero degrees C on the top and when you add the wind-chill factor it felt much colder.

I have uploaded a collection of images to Flickr.

Going even further off-topic, pages 3 and 4 of the album show the modern trains (and a tram) used to get to Germany, travel around the Harz, and get back to the UK.

Take a look if you are interested.

Kind regards for 2016.

Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
Follow me on Twitter @mikenarrowgauge
Support the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WHHRly


Re: OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge

Stefan
 

 

On 02/01/2016 12:44, chapmanmchapman@... [LRRSA] wrote:
I beg to differ.
 
 
I don't think this can be regarded a true articulation, as found on Mallet or Beyer-Garratt locos. It is more a system to give a bit more flexibility and side-ways movement to the outer coupled axles.

These type of "bogies" (Krauss-Helmholtz, etc.) actually consist of a linkage between the pony-trucks and their adjacent coupled axles to push the driving axles a bit sideways and so ease its passage through sharp curves. They were often used on long-wheelbase, coupled locos in Europe, although I don't think they were much used here or the rest of the "English-speaking" world. The Germans also tried out various types of "flexible-wheelbase" locos, such a Luttermoller and Klein-Lindner, in which the end axles did actually pivot a bit on curves; there was no actual axle-pivoting in the Krauss-Helmholtz system.

There is no actual "hinge" between two groups of coupled wheels, to allow them to take up an angle to each other, as in true articulated locos.


-- 
Brian Rumary
England
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Re: OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge

B.Rumary
 

On 02/01/2016 12:44, chapmanmchapman@... [LRRSA] wrote:
I beg to differ.
 
 
I don't think this can be regarded a true articulation, as found on Mallet or Beyer-Garratt locos. It is more a system to give a bit more flexibility and side-ways movement to the outer coupled axles.

These type of "bogies" (Krauss-Helmholtz, etc.) actually consist of a linkage between the pony-trucks and their adjacent coupled axles to push the driving axles a bit sideways and so ease its passage through sharp curves. They were often used on long-wheelbase, coupled locos in Europe, although I don't think they were much used here or the rest of the "English-speaking" world. The Germans also tried out various types of "flexible-wheelbase" locos, such a Luttermoller and Klein-Lindner, in which the end axles did actually pivot a bit on curves; there was no actual axle-pivoting in the Krauss-Helmholtz system.

There is no actual "hinge" between two groups of coupled wheels, to allow them to take up an angle to each other, as in true articulated locos.


-- 
Brian Rumary
England
brian(at)rumary.co.uk


Re: OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge

Eddie Oliver
 

On 3/01/2016 08:02, Frank Stamford frank.stamford@... [LRRSA] wrote:
It depends on what your definition of "articulated" is, I think.
If you consider "articulated" to mean separate frames, as in Garratt, Meyer, Hagans, Fairlie, Mallet etc, then the Harz 2-10-2Ts are not articulated.

That is surely what is normally meant by the term.


If you consider "articulated" to mean not having a rigid wheelbase, then the Harz 2-10-2Ts are articulated, the first and fifth driving axles are allowed some radial movement.


Is that a customary usage? It would never occur to me to use the word with such a meaning.

Origin of articulate

Classical Latin articulatus, past participle of articulare, to separate into joints, utter distinctly
 

http://www.yourdictionary.com/articulate#gWJ0mqg5cBfOVuAE.99



Re: OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge

Geoff Potter <potgeoff@...>
 

Happy New Year Michael.
I too have enjoyed your fine photographs,
regards
Geoff Potter


On Sunday, 3 January 2016, 8:02, "Frank Stamford frank.stamford@... [LRRSA]" wrote:


 

Good morning all,

It depends on what your definition of "articulated" is, I think.

If you consider "articulated" to mean separate frames, as in Garratt, Meyer, Hagans, Fairlie, Mallet etc, then the Harz 2-10-2Ts are not articulated.

If you consider "articulated" to mean not having a rigid wheelbase, then the Harz 2-10-2Ts are articulated, the first and fifth driving axles are allowed some radial movement.

In any case, thanks Michael for posting some very nice pictures of a most interesting railway.

Regards,

Frank


On 2/01/2016 11:44 PM, chapmanmchapman@... [LRRSA] wrote:
 
I beg to differ.
 
 
Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
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In a message dated 02/01/2016 11:39:19 GMT Standard Time, LRRSA@... writes:
 
On 01/01/2016 13:10, chapmanmchapman@... [LRRSA] wrote:
Their articulated 2-10-2 locomotives are amazing.

Nice photos - however the 2-10-2T locos are NOT articulated!

--
Brian Rumary
England
brian(at)rumary.co.uk





Re: OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge

Frank Stamford
 


Good morning all,

It depends on what your definition of "articulated" is, I think.

If you consider "articulated" to mean separate frames, as in Garratt, Meyer, Hagans, Fairlie, Mallet etc, then the Harz 2-10-2Ts are not articulated.

If you consider "articulated" to mean not having a rigid wheelbase, then the Harz 2-10-2Ts are articulated, the first and fifth driving axles are allowed some radial movement.

In any case, thanks Michael for posting some very nice pictures of a most interesting railway.

Regards,

Frank


On 2/01/2016 11:44 PM, chapmanmchapman@... [LRRSA] wrote:
 

I beg to differ.
 
 
Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
Follow me on Twitter @mikenarrowgauge
Support the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WHHRly


 
 
In a message dated 02/01/2016 11:39:19 GMT Standard Time, LRRSA@... writes:
 

On 01/01/2016 13:10, chapmanmchapman@... [LRRSA] wrote:
Their articulated 2-10-2 locomotives are amazing.

Nice photos - however the 2-10-2T locos are NOT articulated!

-- 
Brian Rumary
England
brian(at)rumary.co.uk



Re: OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge

Michael C.
 

I beg to differ.
 
 
Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
Follow me on Twitter @mikenarrowgauge
Support the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WHHRly


 
 

In a message dated 02/01/2016 11:39:19 GMT Standard Time, LRRSA@... writes:
 

On 01/01/2016 13:10, chapmanmchapman@... [LRRSA] wrote:
Their articulated 2-10-2 locomotives are amazing.

Nice photos - however the 2-10-2T locos are NOT articulated!

--
Brian Rumary
England
brian(at)rumary.co.uk


Re: OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge

B.Rumary
 

On 01/01/2016 13:10, chapmanmchapman@... [LRRSA] wrote:
Their articulated 2-10-2 locomotives are amazing.

Nice photos - however the 2-10-2T locos are NOT articulated!

-- 
Brian Rumary
England
brian(at)rumary.co.uk


Re: OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge

BM
 

Michael,

Many thanks for sharing these images via the LRRSA Group. I have enjoyed them immensely and I envy your opportunity to experience this wonderful operation first-hand.

 

Cheers

Bob McKillop

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Saturday, 2 January 2016 12:10 AM
To: lrrsa@...
Subject: [LRRSA] OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge

 

 

Happy New Year!

 

Greetings from the United Kingdom.

 

Over Christmas I travelled to Germany via train to visit the metre-gauge Harzer Schmalspurbahnen.

 

I liked it so much I rode it twice on two separate days. Their articulated 2-10-2 locomotives are amazing. There was also a Mallet locomotive built in 1898 by Arn Jung in steam.

 

On the second day I caught a train to the top of the Brocken. Sadly there was no snow this year but it was zero degrees C on the top and when you add the wind-chill factor it felt much colder.

 

I have uploaded a collection of images to Flickr.

 

Going even further off-topic, pages 3 and 4 of the album show the modern trains (and a tram) used to get to Germany, travel around the Harz, and get back to the UK.

 

Take a look if you are interested.

 

Kind regards for 2016.

 

Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
Follow me on Twitter @mikenarrowgauge
Support the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WHHRly


Victorian State Forests - Digital map data

John Cleverdon <johnc@...>
 

Hello all,
Something that may be of interest for those of you who use CAD or GIS (Geographic Information Software).

You can now download datasets with information on Victorian State Forest features such as historic relics (including a few timber tramway/mill remains), picnic/camping sites, toilets, car parks, huts and walking tracks. See: https://www.data.vic.gov.au/data/dataset?q=recreation+site (ignore the first item).

I've already download all 6 items and added them to GIS workspaces I have.

Further details are:
"Recreation Facility attributes were collected on site. The majority of the attributes are from drop down lists which minimises errors. Data has been collected with a Trimble Pro XR GPSwith an external antenna. The majority of points have sub metre accuracy, detailed in the attributes. The upper limit of accuracy is within 10m for 95% of the data. All data has been post processed using GPSnet base stations."

Those of you who are tech-savvy (but don't have GIS software) might want to try the open-source 'QGIS' software (see: http://www.qgis.org/en/site/forusers/download.html) and use the above datasets along with other Vicmap datasets such as transport, hydrology, or elevation (do a search at: https://www.data.vic.gov.au/).
Alternatively, you could use CAD/similar software as the data is available in DWG and DXF formats.

Regards,
John
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John Cleverdon
Mornington Peninsula, Victoria, Australia
John's web page: http://users.cdi.com.au/~johnc/
LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/pub/john-cleverdon/a/a81/2b

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OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge

Michael C.
 

Happy New Year!
 
Greetings from the United Kingdom.
 
Over Christmas I travelled to Germany via train to visit the metre-gauge Harzer Schmalspurbahnen.
 
I liked it so much I rode it twice on two separate days. Their articulated 2-10-2 locomotives are amazing. There was also a Mallet locomotive built in 1898 by Arn Jung in steam.
 
On the second day I caught a train to the top of the Brocken. Sadly there was no snow this year but it was zero degrees C on the top and when you add the wind-chill factor it felt much colder.
 
I have uploaded a collection of images to Flickr.
 
Going even further off-topic, pages 3 and 4 of the album show the modern trains (and a tram) used to get to Germany, travel around the Harz, and get back to the UK.
 
Take a look if you are interested.
 
Kind regards for 2016.
 
Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
Follow me on Twitter @mikenarrowgauge
Support the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WHHRly


More photographs on Flickr

Michael C.
 

Dear all,
 
Festive greetings from the United Kingdom.
 
I've been uploading photographs to Flickr again; this time from AHRS Vic Division Railway Museum in Williamstown.
 
Take a look if you're interested.
 
 
Best wishes for Christmas.
 
Michael Chapman

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Off-topic - more photos on Flickr

Michael C.
 

Hi all,
 
I have uploaded a collection of images to Flickr from Canberra. The album can be seen here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/albums/72157660449551411
 
The first part of the album shows Garratt 6029 at the Canberra Railway Museum.
 
From this point on there are scenes of the other locos and stock in the museum:
 
There are three shots of Parliament starting here:
 
Canberra Railway Station starting here:
 
Then I went on The Stockman train hauled by a heritage diesel from Canberra to Bungendore
 
There are a couple of shots of the German 'Mephisto' tank in Canberra starting here:
 
Then going off-topic there are some shots of the Canberra Deep Space Communication Complex and associated dishes.
 
Shots from the Mount Stromlo Observatory start here:
 
Then to finish with and to try and get back on topic there are some views of the miniature John Fowler locomotive at Cockington Green Gardens and Miniature Village. It has wing mirrors and even a cash drawer built into the tender!
 
Take a look if you're interested.
 
Cheers,
 
Michael Chapman

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Cane train derails after hitting fishing boat on tracks in Cairns

Bill Bolton
 

"An MSF Sugar cane train was travelling alongside Redbank Road at
Packers Camp, south of Cairns, when it hit a fishing boat at a road
crossing about 1.25pm today.

It is understood a ute, towing the fishing boat, was crossing the
train line when the cane train hit the boat.

An MSF Sugar spokesman said the cane train had been hauling 32 empty
bins to a harvesting contractor from MSF Sugar's Mulgrave Mill at
Gordonvale.

He said the train was damaged and will be taken back to the Mulgrave
Mill, roughly eight kilometres south of the crash site.

MSF Sugar were conducting an internal investigation.

Queensland Ambulance Service confirmed no one was injured."

[There are some photos on the web link below]

<http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/cane-train-derails-after-hitting-fishing-boat-on-tracks-in-cairns-20151207-glhfbi.html>;


****

Bill Bolton
Sydney, Australia


Re: Photographs from Bellarine

Michael C.
 

Dear all,
 
Me again, I have uploaded a collection of images from October of the Bellarine Railway to Flickr.
 
 
Cheers,
 
Michael Chapman

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In a message dated 06/12/2015 16:18:47 GMT Standard Time, Chapmanmchapman@... writes:
Dear all,
 
I am slowly working my way through my collection of Australian photos and have just finished uploading a collection from the Walhalla Goldfields Railway to Flickr.
 
The WGR is an awesome railway with a constant 1 in 30 gradient; the steepest part is 1 in 28! It has back-to-back two chain radius curves meaning it has the sharpest bends on any railway in Australia. The railway presents a constant challenge to the train crew as the rails are usually wet and more often than not covered in leaves.
 
I'm told the WGR carries 32 thousand passengers per year making it the second busiest tourist railway in Victoria after Puffing Billy.
 
You may be aware the WGR is now twinned with the Lynton & Barnstaple Railway in the UK.
 
 
The images show the station at Thomson and then take you on a return journey from Walhalla; then you get some views of the train in the landscape; then I was offered a footplate ride! 
 
These photos are quite good too:
 
 
 
 
Cheers,
 
Michael Chapman

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Photographs from Walhalla

Michael C.
 

Dear all,
 
I am slowly working my way through my collection of Australian photos and have just finished uploading a collection from the Walhalla Goldfields Railway to Flickr.
 
The WGR is an awesome railway with a constant 1 in 30 gradient; the steepest part is 1 in 28! It has back-to-back two chain radius curves meaning it has the sharpest bends on any railway in Australia. The railway presents a constant challenge to the train crew as the rails are usually wet and more often than not covered in leaves.
 
I'm told the WGR carries 32 thousand passengers per year making it the second busiest tourist railway in Victoria after Puffing Billy.
 
You may be aware the WGR is now twinned with the Lynton & Barnstaple Railway in the UK.
 
 
The images show the station at Thomson and then take you on a return journey from Walhalla; then you get some views of the train in the landscape; then I was offered a footplate ride! 
 
These photos are quite good too:
 
 
 
 
Cheers,
 
Michael Chapman

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Re: : Plates at Melbourne Benevolent Asylum

Phil Rickard
 

Thanks Bob,

What I'm enquirying about was a plateway-type of track we believe the asylum used, probably along an internal road that was subject to heavy road traffic. 
The contractor's steam-powered construction tramway (2ft-ga) was totally separate, from Cheltenham station, for the duration of construction.  And also not to be confused with the asylum's internal electric tramway from the kitchens to the main building. And also not to be confused with the 5ft 3in gauge private line that the asylum wanted to build from Cheltenham station, before the 2ft-gauge line was built! (the VR killed off the private line by demanding very high connection costs at Cheltenham goods yard.)

So, apart from all those lines, the asylum bought some surplus Bochum Union road plates to supplement some old type plateway channel plates they had previously bought. The big question is: What did they do with them?  Thanks for the tip - I'll try and find the group to which you refer.

cheers

Phil

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