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Re: : RE: Yarloop workshops destroyed in bushfire

Eddie Oliver
 

On 10/01/2016 16:32, John Dennis jdennis412@... [LRRSA] wrote:

The Rail Heritage arena has been sorely done by fires in recent years, what with the Zig Zag and the ElecRail fire in Newport Workshops.



and trams etc at Loftus


Re: : RE: Yarloop workshops destroyed in bushfire

John Dennis
 

Sadly, I never visited. I drove past in September this year, but having already decided that we would return to Perth in a year or two, decided to put off a visit until then. Very bad decision...

The Rail Heritage arena has been sorely done by fires in recent years, what with the Zig Zag and the ElecRail fire in Newport Workshops.

John

On 10 January 2016 at 16:21, 'Denis Wasley' denis.wasley@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:
 

G’Day,
I visited Yarloop on two occasions. Each time I met interesting and friendly volunteers and was fascinated with the history of the museum.
Its loss is very sad. My sympathies also go to those museum volunteers who also lost their homes.
regards
Denis Wasley
Secretary & Manager Steam Plant Operations
Cobdogla Steam Friends Society Inc
04 1788 3353
enquiries@...
cobdoglasteammuseum.com.au
 
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 12:02 PM
Subject: Re:: RE: [LRRSA] Yarloop workshops destroyed in bushfire
 
 

Hi all 

for those on the list who are unfamiliar or have never heard of Yarloop previously, check out the Photo Gallery, Slideshow and History Links links at
There is a site plan under the History link
The e-brochure is worth a look too while their website is still up,

This was a large site with all the steam machinery housed in large timber buildings across the site.
Regards,
John Garaty
Unanderra in oz
 


Re: : RE: Yarloop workshops destroyed in bushfire

denis.wasley
 

G’Day,
I visited Yarloop on two occasions. Each time I met interesting and friendly volunteers and was fascinated with the history of the museum.
Its loss is very sad. My sympathies also go to those museum volunteers who also lost their homes.
regards
Denis Wasley
Secretary & Manager Steam Plant Operations
Cobdogla Steam Friends Society Inc
04 1788 3353
enquiries@...
cobdoglasteammuseum.com.au
 

Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 12:02 PM
Subject: Re:: RE: [LRRSA] Yarloop workshops destroyed in bushfire
 
 

Hi all 

for those on the list who are unfamiliar or have never heard of Yarloop previously, check out the Photo Gallery, Slideshow and History Links links at
There is a site plan under the History link
The e-brochure is worth a look too while their website is still up,

This was a large site with all the steam machinery housed in large timber buildings across the site.
Regards,
John Garaty
Unanderra in oz
 

Re: : RE: Yarloop workshops destroyed in bushfire

John Garaty
 

Hi all 
for those on the list who are unfamiliar or have never heard of Yarloop previously, check out the Photo Gallery, Slideshow and History Links links at 
There is a site plan under the History link
The e-brochure is worth a look too while their website is still up,

This was a large site with all the steam machinery housed in large timber buildings across the site. 
Regards,
John Garaty
Unanderra in oz
 

Re: : RE: Yarloop workshops destroyed in bushfire

Bill
 

In deed, very sad news.

Yarloop Loco Depot and Sawmill complex was the best living museum site that I have seen in Australia.

The collection of rolling stock; pattern shop, with all the masters; saw milling display - blacksmith shop etc.

Sympathy to all the staff, and people living in the area.

Regards,
Bill

Re: Yarloop workshops destroyed in bushfire

Geoffrey Hansen
 

Very sad news. I regret not stopping in Yarloop in 2014.

Regards
Geoffrey


To: LRRSA@...
From: LRRSA@...
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 22:07:17 -0800
Subject: [LRRSA] Yarloop workshops destroyed in bushfire

 
As has been widely reported, the Yarloop Workshops Museum has been destroyed in a bushfire.

A report can be found in the Bunbury Mail:

WA fires: historic Yarloop timber workshops destroyed by Waroona blaze

 

And the Workshops Museum can be seen in happier times in this YouTube video:

https://youtu.be/zCDebFsszKI


Regards,

Frank



Yarloop workshops destroyed in bushfire

Frank Stamford
 

As has been widely reported, the Yarloop Workshops Museum has been destroyed in a bushfire.

A report can be found in the Bunbury Mail:

WA fires: historic Yarloop timber workshops destroyed by Waroona blaze

 


And the Workshops Museum can be seen in happier times in this YouTube video:

https://youtu.be/zCDebFsszKI


Regards,

Frank


Re: Victorian State Forests - Digital map data

John Cleverdon
 

Hello all,
A follow-up about this for those who may be interested.
These State forest features can also be viewed on the Victorian 'Forest Explorer' online mapping website at: http://nremap-sc.nre.vic.gov.au/MapShare.v2/imf.jsp?site=forestexplorer

As an example, zoom in to an area of interest, say, around the Ada River Sawmills area.
In the 'Map layers' box (right-hand side), tick on 'Site and Track infrastructure' and then click on 'Refresh map'.

Click on the 'Legend' button (under the title) and the legend appears. As an example, a bold 'R' appears for 'Historic Relics'.
Back on the Map Layers option, click on the 'i' next to the 'Site and Track infrastructure' to make it bold. Then click on an 'R' to identify a historic relic.

Regards,
John
--
John Cleverdon
Mornington Peninsula, Victoria, Australia
John's web page: http://users.cdi.com.au/~johnc/
LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/pub/john-cleverdon/a/a81/2b

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Yarra Ranges Shire - aerial photography

John Cleverdon
 

Hello all,
Something that may be of interest. Yarra Ranges Shire (Melbourne's eastern side) has an online Geographic Information System website at:
http://www.mapimage.net/IntraMaps75/ApplicationEngine/Application.aspx?project=Yarra+Ranges&configId=bf9bd338-12aa-43f2-95aa-a491de0b3a8d
and this includes high-resolution aerial photos only a couple of years old.

To view the photos, zoom in to your area of interest, go to the 'Layers' box (bottom left of website), and tick the 'Aerial imagery' or '2013/2014 Aerial imagery' boxes while unticking the 'Crown land' and 'Property base' boxes.

Regards,
John
--
John Cleverdon
Mornington Peninsula, Victoria, Australia
John's web page: http://users.cdi.com.au/~johnc/
LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/pub/john-cleverdon/a/a81/2b

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Re: : Re: OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge

sncs@...
 

Hi Michael, 

As it turns out, we were over there too for a friend's birthday - it was a fantastic experience!

We also stayed in Goslar which had a silver mine that operated for a thousand years, and has great underground tours, great fun.

Departing Einsfelder Tahmule on the steam hauled trip back to Wernigerode parallel to the rail motor departure was a fantastic experience!

Regards, 

Scott

Re: OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge

Michael C.
 

My first visit to the Harz was in 2010 when there was snow...

More images can be seen here:

https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/55958391@N07/sets/72157644704415275/

Take a look if you're interested.

Cheers,

Michael Chapman

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ smartphone

"'nconder' nconder@... [LRRSA]" <LRRSA@...> wrote:

 

Must be the only railway where the conductor checks your ticket and sells alcohol. Needed it when I went to Elsfelder Talmuhle as it was raining and cold and they had the steam heating on and it was early September last year. I thought that section was better than the Brocken but Brocken would look great in the snow. On the trip from Alexisbad to Quedlinburg we had the iconic 2-6-2 pulling the train. A very well run railway. One off the bucket list but would be good to see in the snow.
Neville Conder
 

Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2016 11:46 AM
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge
 
 

Michael,

Many thanks for sharing these images via the LRRSA Group. I have enjoyed them immensely and I envy your opportunity to experience this wonderful operation first-hand.

Cheers

Bob McKillop

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Saturday, 2 January 2016 12:10 AM
To: lrrsa@...
Subject: [LRRSA] OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge

 

Happy New Year!

Greetings from the United Kingdom.

Over Christmas I travelled to Germany via train to visit the metre-gauge Harzer Schmalspurbahnen.

I liked it so much I rode it twice on two separate days. Their articulated 2-10-2 locomotives are amazing. There was also a Mallet locomotive built in 1898 by Arn Jung in steam.

On the second day I caught a train to the top of the Brocken. Sadly there was no snow this year but it was zero degrees C on the top and when you add the wind-chill factor it felt much colder.

I have uploaded a collection of images to Flickr.

Going even further off-topic, pages 3 and 4 of the album show the modern trains (and a tram) used to get to Germany, travel around the Harz, and get back to the UK.

Take a look if you are interested.

Kind regards for 2016.

Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
Follow me on Twitter @mikenarrowgauge
Support the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WHHRly

Re: OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge

neville conder
 

Must be the only railway where the conductor checks your ticket and sells alcohol. Needed it when I went to Elsfelder Talmuhle as it was raining and cold and they had the steam heating on and it was early September last year. I thought that section was better than the Brocken but Brocken would look great in the snow. On the trip from Alexisbad to Quedlinburg we had the iconic 2-6-2 pulling the train. A very well run railway. One off the bucket list but would be good to see in the snow.
Neville Conder
 

Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2016 11:46 AM
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge
 
 

Michael,

Many thanks for sharing these images via the LRRSA Group. I have enjoyed them immensely and I envy your opportunity to experience this wonderful operation first-hand.

Cheers

Bob McKillop

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Saturday, 2 January 2016 12:10 AM
To: lrrsa@...
Subject: [LRRSA] OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge

 

Happy New Year!

Greetings from the United Kingdom.

Over Christmas I travelled to Germany via train to visit the metre-gauge Harzer Schmalspurbahnen.

I liked it so much I rode it twice on two separate days. Their articulated 2-10-2 locomotives are amazing. There was also a Mallet locomotive built in 1898 by Arn Jung in steam.

On the second day I caught a train to the top of the Brocken. Sadly there was no snow this year but it was zero degrees C on the top and when you add the wind-chill factor it felt much colder.

I have uploaded a collection of images to Flickr.

Going even further off-topic, pages 3 and 4 of the album show the modern trains (and a tram) used to get to Germany, travel around the Harz, and get back to the UK.

Take a look if you are interested.

Kind regards for 2016.

Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
Follow me on Twitter @mikenarrowgauge
Support the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WHHRly

Re: OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge

Stefan
 

 

On 02/01/2016 12:44, chapmanmchapman@... [LRRSA] wrote:
I beg to differ.
 
 
I don't think this can be regarded a true articulation, as found on Mallet or Beyer-Garratt locos. It is more a system to give a bit more flexibility and side-ways movement to the outer coupled axles.

These type of "bogies" (Krauss-Helmholtz, etc.) actually consist of a linkage between the pony-trucks and their adjacent coupled axles to push the driving axles a bit sideways and so ease its passage through sharp curves. They were often used on long-wheelbase, coupled locos in Europe, although I don't think they were much used here or the rest of the "English-speaking" world. The Germans also tried out various types of "flexible-wheelbase" locos, such a Luttermoller and Klein-Lindner, in which the end axles did actually pivot a bit on curves; there was no actual axle-pivoting in the Krauss-Helmholtz system.

There is no actual "hinge" between two groups of coupled wheels, to allow them to take up an angle to each other, as in true articulated locos.


-- 
Brian Rumary
England
brian(at)rumary.co.uk

Re: OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge

B.Rumary
 

On 02/01/2016 12:44, chapmanmchapman@... [LRRSA] wrote:
I beg to differ.
 
 
I don't think this can be regarded a true articulation, as found on Mallet or Beyer-Garratt locos. It is more a system to give a bit more flexibility and side-ways movement to the outer coupled axles.

These type of "bogies" (Krauss-Helmholtz, etc.) actually consist of a linkage between the pony-trucks and their adjacent coupled axles to push the driving axles a bit sideways and so ease its passage through sharp curves. They were often used on long-wheelbase, coupled locos in Europe, although I don't think they were much used here or the rest of the "English-speaking" world. The Germans also tried out various types of "flexible-wheelbase" locos, such a Luttermoller and Klein-Lindner, in which the end axles did actually pivot a bit on curves; there was no actual axle-pivoting in the Krauss-Helmholtz system.

There is no actual "hinge" between two groups of coupled wheels, to allow them to take up an angle to each other, as in true articulated locos.


-- 
Brian Rumary
England
brian(at)rumary.co.uk

Re: OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge

Eddie Oliver
 

On 3/01/2016 08:02, Frank Stamford frank.stamford@... [LRRSA] wrote:
It depends on what your definition of "articulated" is, I think.
If you consider "articulated" to mean separate frames, as in Garratt, Meyer, Hagans, Fairlie, Mallet etc, then the Harz 2-10-2Ts are not articulated.

That is surely what is normally meant by the term.


If you consider "articulated" to mean not having a rigid wheelbase, then the Harz 2-10-2Ts are articulated, the first and fifth driving axles are allowed some radial movement.


Is that a customary usage? It would never occur to me to use the word with such a meaning.

Origin of articulate

Classical Latin articulatus, past participle of articulare, to separate into joints, utter distinctly
 

http://www.yourdictionary.com/articulate#gWJ0mqg5cBfOVuAE.99


Re: OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge

Geoff Potter <potgeoff@...>
 

Happy New Year Michael.
I too have enjoyed your fine photographs,
regards
Geoff Potter


On Sunday, 3 January 2016, 8:02, "Frank Stamford frank.stamford@... [LRRSA]" wrote:


 

Good morning all,

It depends on what your definition of "articulated" is, I think.

If you consider "articulated" to mean separate frames, as in Garratt, Meyer, Hagans, Fairlie, Mallet etc, then the Harz 2-10-2Ts are not articulated.

If you consider "articulated" to mean not having a rigid wheelbase, then the Harz 2-10-2Ts are articulated, the first and fifth driving axles are allowed some radial movement.

In any case, thanks Michael for posting some very nice pictures of a most interesting railway.

Regards,

Frank


On 2/01/2016 11:44 PM, chapmanmchapman@... [LRRSA] wrote:
 
I beg to differ.
 
 
Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
Follow me on Twitter @mikenarrowgauge
Support the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WHHRly


 
 
In a message dated 02/01/2016 11:39:19 GMT Standard Time, LRRSA@... writes:
 
On 01/01/2016 13:10, chapmanmchapman@... [LRRSA] wrote:
Their articulated 2-10-2 locomotives are amazing.

Nice photos - however the 2-10-2T locos are NOT articulated!

--
Brian Rumary
England
brian(at)rumary.co.uk




Re: OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge

Frank Stamford
 


Good morning all,

It depends on what your definition of "articulated" is, I think.

If you consider "articulated" to mean separate frames, as in Garratt, Meyer, Hagans, Fairlie, Mallet etc, then the Harz 2-10-2Ts are not articulated.

If you consider "articulated" to mean not having a rigid wheelbase, then the Harz 2-10-2Ts are articulated, the first and fifth driving axles are allowed some radial movement.

In any case, thanks Michael for posting some very nice pictures of a most interesting railway.

Regards,

Frank


On 2/01/2016 11:44 PM, chapmanmchapman@... [LRRSA] wrote:
 

I beg to differ.
 
 
Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
Follow me on Twitter @mikenarrowgauge
Support the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WHHRly


 
 
In a message dated 02/01/2016 11:39:19 GMT Standard Time, LRRSA@... writes:
 

On 01/01/2016 13:10, chapmanmchapman@... [LRRSA] wrote:
Their articulated 2-10-2 locomotives are amazing.

Nice photos - however the 2-10-2T locos are NOT articulated!

-- 
Brian Rumary
England
brian(at)rumary.co.uk


Re: OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge

Michael C.
 

I beg to differ.
 
 
Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
Follow me on Twitter @mikenarrowgauge
Support the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WHHRly


 
 

In a message dated 02/01/2016 11:39:19 GMT Standard Time, LRRSA@... writes:
 

On 01/01/2016 13:10, chapmanmchapman@... [LRRSA] wrote:
Their articulated 2-10-2 locomotives are amazing.

Nice photos - however the 2-10-2T locos are NOT articulated!

--
Brian Rumary
England
brian(at)rumary.co.uk

Re: OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge

B.Rumary
 

On 01/01/2016 13:10, chapmanmchapman@... [LRRSA] wrote:
Their articulated 2-10-2 locomotives are amazing.

Nice photos - however the 2-10-2T locos are NOT articulated!

-- 
Brian Rumary
England
brian(at)rumary.co.uk

Re: OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge

BM
 

Michael,

Many thanks for sharing these images via the LRRSA Group. I have enjoyed them immensely and I envy your opportunity to experience this wonderful operation first-hand.

 

Cheers

Bob McKillop

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Saturday, 2 January 2016 12:10 AM
To: lrrsa@...
Subject: [LRRSA] OFF TOPIC German narrow gauge

 

 

Happy New Year!

 

Greetings from the United Kingdom.

 

Over Christmas I travelled to Germany via train to visit the metre-gauge Harzer Schmalspurbahnen.

 

I liked it so much I rode it twice on two separate days. Their articulated 2-10-2 locomotives are amazing. There was also a Mallet locomotive built in 1898 by Arn Jung in steam.

 

On the second day I caught a train to the top of the Brocken. Sadly there was no snow this year but it was zero degrees C on the top and when you add the wind-chill factor it felt much colder.

 

I have uploaded a collection of images to Flickr.

 

Going even further off-topic, pages 3 and 4 of the album show the modern trains (and a tram) used to get to Germany, travel around the Harz, and get back to the UK.

 

Take a look if you are interested.

 

Kind regards for 2016.

 

Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
Follow me on Twitter @mikenarrowgauge
Support the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WHHRly