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Re: Ballina

Eddie Oliver
 

On 1/10/2015 18:49, 'Bruce Wood' bruce.wood@... [LRRSA] wrote:
It appears that the author has many other books, including: Out of Puff – The Ballina Train
 
 
Does anyone own any of these author’s books, who can provide a reference on the quality?
 


I have checked my stacks of unread books, and confirm that I have both of them. I have moved them to the top of the highest priority stack. I therefore may be able to answer your question within about three years.

I now vaguely recall ordering them direct from the Alstonville society a few years ago.



Re: Ballina

Bruce Wood
 

It appears that the author has many other books, including: Out of Puff – The Ballina Train
 
 
Does anyone own any of these author’s books, who can provide a reference on the quality?
 
Bruce
 

Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Ballina
 
 

https://books.google.com.au/books/about/Forgotten_Railways_of_the_Northern_River.html?id=mYxiGgAACAAJ&redir_esc=y


Re: Ballina

Eddie Oliver
 


Re: : RE: Ballina

Kevin Sewell
 

I have a similarly VERY vague recollection of some article other than Byways, and wonder if praps there was an article in ARH mag that I might be thinking of.

On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Eddie Oliver eoliver@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:

>> I know that the “Byways of Steam” range of books had
>> an edition dedicated to “The Tweed Railway”
> "Byways of Steam 18 - the Tweed Railway", circa 2001.
>
> ISBN  1876568143
>

Even though that is obviously highly pertinent, it's not actually what I
was thinking of - it's pathetic that I have such a mental block about
its identity, but the thing in my semi-mind was specifically about the
Ballina line rather than part of a bigger treatise.




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Re: : RE: Ballina

Bruce Wood
 

Ron Preston in his book "Tender into Tank", in the 13 class section, had an essay on a trip he did on the Ballina branch - however that publication must go back 45 years?

Bruce

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From: Eddie Oliver eoliver@logitel.net.au [LRRSA]
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I know that the �Byways of Steam� range of books had
an edition dedicated to �The Tweed Railway�
"Byways of Steam 18 - the Tweed Railway", circa 2001.

ISBN 1876568143
Even though that is obviously highly pertinent, it's not actually what I
was thinking of - it's pathetic that I have such a mental block about
its identity, but the thing in my semi-mind was specifically about the
Ballina line rather than part of a bigger treatise.




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Re: : Climax Locomotive Twylight Outing 10 October 2015

Frank Stamford
 

A reminder about the Climax locomotive Twylight outing on 10 October. Bookings are still open but are due to close on Wednesday 7 October, providing it is not fully booked before that date. Bookings close then to enable catering arrangements to be finalised.
 
If you are thinking of going it would be worthwhile booking promptly as it is more than 80% full already.

All being well we will have two open seated NQR trucks on the train, which will not be booked, but will give the option to travel in the open air providing the weather is good!


Climax Locomotive Twylight Outing

 

Regards,

Frank


Re: : RE: Ballina

Eddie Oliver
 

I know that the �Byways of Steam� range of books had
an edition dedicated to �The Tweed Railway�
"Byways of Steam 18 - the Tweed Railway", circa 2001.

ISBN 1876568143
Even though that is obviously highly pertinent, it's not actually what I was thinking of - it's pathetic that I have such a mental block about its identity, but the thing in my semi-mind was specifically about the Ballina line rather than part of a bigger treatise.


Re: : RE: Ballina

Bill Bolton
 

On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 15:54:47 +1000, Bruce wrote:

I know that the “Byways of Steam” range of books had
an edition dedicated to “The Tweed Railway”
"Byways of Steam 18 - the Tweed Railway", circa 2001.

ISBN 1876568143

Cheers,

Bill

Bill Bolton
Sydney, Australia


Re: : RE: Ballina

Bruce Wood
 

I know that the “Byways of Steam” range of books had an edition dedicated to “The Tweed Railway”, and the author, Ian Dunn had some coverage, and pictures of surviving structures and features of the line.
 
Bruce 
 

Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: : RE: [LRRSA] Ballina
 
 


>
> The June 1953 ARHS Bulletin has the Ballina article

There was a substantial Ballina line article - perhaps even a book - in
much more recent times, probably within the last 10 years. I don't
recall the details, but I am confident that it covered a wide range of
relevant issues and hence much of the current discussion may be
'reinventing the wheel'.


Re: : RE: Ballina

Bruce Wood
 

Thanks Peter – all good now.
 
I can see now what was going wrong. I was clicking the link, and getting an enlarged thumbnail, rather than taking the download option and getting the complete file.
 
Thanks again!
Bruce
 
 
 

Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 2:56 PM
Subject: Re:: RE: [LRRSA] Ballina
 
 

Hi Bruce,

I understand some email processes initially give a thumbnail view which *might* be what you have. I hope there might be an option hiding somewhere to get past that thumbnail?
 
The June 1953 ARHS Bulletin has the Ballina article which mentions (quote) the branch to the wharf on the Richmond River or a short extension through the town along Bentinck Street to near the bridge to East Ballina. Both these extensions appear on the Engineer's plan and section for the line, but were never constructed. (end quote)
 
The historical maps and plans for Ballina town itself are available via the six.nsw.gov.au website. Look on the right of that website for the historical maps link and then use Ballina as the search term. I have extracted the 1936 version (900KB) with the wharf line https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByB-ppGeDyvwLWZjUjBkaWozM1E/view 
 
Cheers
Peter Cokley
 
From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Thursday, 1 October 2015 12:13 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Ballina
 
Hi Peter,
Thank-you for sharing your work. I was keen to see the information on the former Ballina branch, however something is going wrong when I open the links. The file names suggest the files are 3MB. The files I am opening are about 107 – 133 KB. When I magnify the map, the pixelation loses all clarity. Am I doing something wrong? All your previous maps, I have magnified, have all had very good definition. Cheers Bruce


Re: : RE: Ballina

Eddie Oliver
 


The June 1953 ARHS Bulletin has the Ballina article
There was a substantial Ballina line article - perhaps even a book - in much more recent times, probably within the last 10 years. I don't recall the details, but I am confident that it covered a wide range of relevant issues and hence much of the current discussion may be 'reinventing the wheel'.


Re: : RE: Ballina

Petan
 

 Hi Bruce,
I understand some email processes initially give a thumbnail view which *might* be what you have. I hope there might be an option hiding somewhere to get past that thumbnail?

The June 1953 ARHS Bulletin has the Ballina article which mentions (quote) the branch to the wharf on the Richmond River or a short extension through the town along Bentinck Street to near the bridge to East Ballina. Both these extensions appear on the Engineer's plan and section for the line, but were never constructed. (end quote) 

The historical maps and plans for Ballina town itself are available via the six.nsw.gov.au website. Look on the right of that website for the historical maps link and then use Ballina as the search term. I have extracted the 1936 version (900KB) with the wharf line https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByB-ppGeDyvwLWZjUjBkaWozM1E/view  

Cheers
Peter Cokley

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...] 
Sent: Thursday, 1 October 2015 12:13 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Ballina

Hi Peter, 
Thank-you for sharing your work. I was keen to see the information on the former Ballina branch, however something is going wrong when I open the links. The file names suggest the files are 3MB. The files I am opening are about 107 – 133 KB. When I magnify the map, the pixelation loses all clarity. Am I doing something wrong? All your previous maps, I have magnified, have all had very good definition. Cheers Bruce


Re: Ballina

Chris Stratton
 

Thanks Peter.

I had a look at bridge piers remaining at Ballina early last year but would like more time to look at more of the line. I followed the line on Google satellite view and most, if not all, of the formation appears to have not been built on.

 

Regards,

CS

 

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Sent: Thursday, 1 October 2015 11:41 AM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: [LRRSA] Ballina

 




I managed to scan the Ballina rail route maps at Murwillumbah Library recently. The Ballina end is from a 1942 map and most of the other end from a 1976 map with map names and scales on each. Some might be interested in this long closed NSWGR line. 

 

Ballina end (3MB) Ballina-1942-3MB.jpg

 

Booyang end (4MB)    Lismore 1976 extract.jpg  

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley

 

 





Re: Ballina

Noel Reed
 

Hello all,

I have a bit of information about the Ballina branch line from my early years of working with the NSWGR S&T Branch.

 

During the WW2 years, the main northern railway had been duplicated only as far as Branxton.  About 1948/49, increasing coal traffic from mines beyond Branxton were causing congestion on the single line which carried all rail traffic to and from the north and north west.

 

An early plan for duplication towards Singleton was to lay a second track beyond Branxton with light rails because  heavier rail was difficult to obtain at the time. The intention was that the second track was to have light rails only and was to be used for coal traffic carried  in the old ten ton private hopper  wagons, hauled by 50 class locos. The intended light rail for this project was to be pre-used consequent on closure of the Ballina line.

 

A plan was prepared for the use of single line track block  (i.e. bi-directional) working on both tracks between  Branxton and  Whittingham with remotely controlled crossing loops at Belford .  A new diagram was prepared for Branxton signal box from where the twin single lines would be controlled.

 

Before this scheme could be carried out, heavier rail  became available for the extra track.  Duplication with the usual Down and Up lines was used with the loops at Belford signalled as uni-directional refuge loops.

 

Noel Reed.  Railway signal engineer since 1948.

 

PS Has research on the Ballina line produced any details of the interlocking of a lifting bridge near Ballina ?

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From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Thursday, 1 October 2015 12:13 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Ballina

 

Hi Peter,

 

Thank-you for sharing your work.

 

I was keen to see the information on the former Ballina branch, however something is going wrong when I open the links. The file names suggest the files are 3MB. The files I am opening are about 107 – 133 KB. When I magnify the map, the pixelation loses all clarity.

 

Am I doing something wrong? All your previous maps, I have magnified, have all had very good definition.

 

 

Cheers

Bruce 

 

Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 11:40 AM

Subject: [LRRSA] Ballina

 

 

I managed to scan the Ballina rail route maps at Murwillumbah Library recently. The Ballina end is from a 1942 map and most of the other end from a 1976 map with map names and scales on each. Some might be interested in this long closed NSWGR line.

 

Ballina end (3MB) Ballina-1942-3MB.jpg

 

Booyang end (4MB)    Lismore 1976 extract.jpg 

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley

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Re: Ballina

Bruce Wood
 

Hi Peter,
 
Thank-you for sharing your work.
 
I was keen to see the information on the former Ballina branch, however something is going wrong when I open the links. The file names suggest the files are 3MB. The files I am opening are about 107 – 133 KB. When I magnify the map, the pixelation loses all clarity.
 
Am I doing something wrong? All your previous maps, I have magnified, have all had very good definition.
 
 
Cheers
Bruce
 
 
 

Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 11:40 AM
Subject: [LRRSA] Ballina
 
 

I managed to scan the Ballina rail route maps at Murwillumbah Library recently. The Ballina end is from a 1942 map and most of the other end from a 1976 map with map names and scales on each. Some might be interested in this long closed NSWGR line.

 

Ballina end (3MB) Ballina-1942-3MB.jpg

 

Booyang end (4MB)    Lismore 1976 extract.jpg 

 

Cheers

Peter Cokley

 



Ballina

Petan
 

I managed to scan the Ballina rail route maps at Murwillumbah Library recently. The Ballina end is from a 1942 map and most of the other end from a 1976 map with map names and scales on each. Some might be interested in this long closed NSWGR line. 


Ballina end (3MB) Ballina-1942-3MB.jpg

 

Booyang end (4MB)    Lismore 1976 extract.jpg  


Cheers

Peter Cokley




Re: Victorian Railways F Drawings - Picket Fence?

Iain
 

If it is a heritage issue have you seen John Pickards work on Australian Rural Fences An Illustrated Glossary of Australian Rural Fence terms which has a huge amount of information in it and is available on-line (google).

 

Cheers

 

Dr Iain Stuart

 

JCIS Consultants

P.O. Box 2397

Burwood North

NSW 2134

Australia

 

(02) 97010191

Iain_Stuart@...

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 29 September 2015 11:24 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: [LRRSA] Victorian Railways F Drawings - Picket Fence?

 

 

Hi all,



I have a number of VR "F" drawings but am chasing one that shows specifications for picket fence construction as used at both Broad & Narrow Gauge stations.



Has to be the genuine VR drawing I'm afraid as I am attempting to resolve a Heritage issue.



Any help would be greatly appreciated

 

David Price

 

 

 


 


Victorian Railways F Drawings - Picket Fence?

David Price
 

Hi all,

I have a number of VR "F" drawings but am chasing one that shows specifications for picket fence construction as used at both Broad & Narrow Gauge stations.

Has to be the genuine VR drawing I'm afraid as I am attempting to resolve a Heritage issue.

Any help would be greatly appreciated
 
David Price
 





Re: : Irvinebank mining tramways

sncs@...
 

Nice finds Peter!

Regards, 

Scott


Re: : Irvinebank mining tramways

Petan
 

This one inch to the mile Herberton 1943 topographical has more detail on the route of the Stannary Hills and Irvinebank mining tramway than the earlier 4 miles to an inch map. Other QR lines are also on this map. Look towards the top left corner for the Irvinebank route marked as disused light railway.    Downloadable (14 MB) from my Google Drive and courtesy QLD State Archives Runcorn    QSA Item ID 537093 scale 1.63360 Herberton 1943.jpg
 
Cheers
Peter Cokley

1881 - 1900 of 10236