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Re: : Coolangatta airport tramway 1939

Petan
 

The 1939 quarry has been confirmed as the Miles St quarry now the site of the electrical substation. Family members used to ride bikes around the many bush tracks between Binda Ave and the airport in the 1970s. As the area is very flat and thus no need for tramway earthworks such as cuttings, any of the tracks could have been the tramway route as the border fence along Binya Ave was removed in the urban area December 1958. The far side of Binya Ave is the state border around there so family bike riders rode regardless of state borders. The area between the Border Park trotting track now greyhound track and Miles St on Binya Ave is all developed so no tramway remnants there. North of the race track was heavily sand mined thus I suspect no 1939 tramway remnants there either. The Southern Cross university site south of the airport was the military holiday camp site from about the very early 1960s so was bulldozed by then.  The Border Park raceway area was established 1965 and was previously part of a sand mining lease.   

Sources: Winter Peter, “Look Back”, Daily News 22SEPT 1988; Miles St Quarry site 1938, Tweed Heads Historical Society, “Look Back” Vol7 P.27; Border Park raceway data.

Cheers
Peter Cokley


Re: Cane Locos

A C Lynn Zelmer
 

Also try Fainges as the search term in the rail heritage image collection search engine:
     http://www.zelmeroz.com/albumquery/_search.php
and scroll down.

O scale drawings are 1:48 but can be enlarges to 7mm when printing.

Happy modelling
   Lynn
   CaneSIG Coordinator

On 17/07/15 8:17 PM, citadis@... [LRRSA] wrote:

...get some loco drawings...

Would anyone be able to assist me please?

...
-- 
Lynn Zelmer
Box 1414 Main Post Office
Rockhampton, QLD 4700 AUSTRALIA


OFF TOPIC - more photos from the UK

Michael C.
 

Hi all,
 
Yesterday I was at the Middleton Railway near Leeds.
 
The Middleton Railway is very historic and has been in existence since 1758. Visit their web site for more information: http://www.middletonrailway.org.uk/
 
This weekend they have been running a special event to celebrate the 150th anniversary of the Hunslet Engine Co. Visit: http://hunslet150.webs.com/
 
As a bonus two narrow gauge locomotives have been running up and down on temporary track at the Jack Lane site - the former Hunslet Engine Company works.
 
I have uploaded a collection of photos to Flickr including several views of the Jack Lane offices where track is still to be seen embedded in the road.
 
 
Take a look if you're interested.
 
Cheers,
 
Michael Chapman

Follow my railway adventures on Flickr at http://tinyurl.com/nlvlnmt
Follow me on Twitter @mikenarrowgauge
Support the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WHHRly


Re: the SA V class 0-4-4RT

Frank Stamford
 

On 1/06/2015 10:12 PM, Frank Stamford frank.stamford@... [LRRSA] wrote:
 

Hello John,

Very interesting questions.

The reason they did not work as expected was that they were just too small and too light for 'mainline' work. In that respect they had the same faults as the horses they replaced. I do not think there was anything fundamentally wrong with the design, and they worked sufficiently well in shunting duties to warrant building more of them even after they had failed in 'mainline' work.


Since writing the above I have done a lot more probing. This has led me to the conclusion that the V class were not by any means failures on the Kingston - Narracoorte line. They did everything that was expected of them. After working on that line for three years they were superseded by the W class 2-6-0 tender locomotives, which was a design of locomotive which did not exist in 1875 when the V class were ordered.

The W class performed better in that role than the V, but does not mean the V failed. It was a case of evolution from experience.

From everything I have read the V class provided a reliable service, and carried all the traffic that was offering without problems to the customers.

When called upon to run excursion trains they could do the the 52 miles between Narracoorte and Kingston in less than 3 hours hauling trains with many hundreds of passengers. Less than three hours on a light railway with 35 lb rails, with a well loaded train is a pretty good effort I think.

Regards,

Frank


Re: : Re: : Re: Cane Locos

Greg King
 

Thank you, that is exactly what I wanted, most appreciated, no excuse now not to build!!

Cheers and thanks again gents.

greg


Re: Cane Locos - urban and cane tramways

John Browning
 

In 1951 the shortest distance would have been the Brisbane Tramways Mount Gravatt terminus (opened in 1951) to Rocky Point Mill line at Norwell (tramway closed end 1951), approximately 40km. A little bit further when the Rocky Point mill line opened in 1924 as the Brisbane tram route terminus was then Greenslopes, with the line extended down Logan Road to Holland Park in 1926.

 

More than twice that distance from Chermside to the Paynter’s Creek terminus of Moreton Mill (about 88km).

 

From Rocky you’d have to go 235km north to Plane Creek mill’s Carmila tramline on dirt roads most of the way – the coast road wasn’t fully completed until around 1980 - or 270km south to the Gin Gin area (Bingera Mill).

 

The Gold Coast tram (opened 2014) currently runs about 3km from where the Nerang Mill line used to run.

 

John

 

John Browning

Brisbane

Australia

 


Re: : Re: : Re: Cane Locos

Greg King
 

Perfect, thank you so much.

Greg


Re: : Re: Cane Locos

Geoff Potter <potgeoff@...>
 

Not sure, but this could be where to look...
Scroll down to see more on the page above
Hope this assists,
Geoff Potter




On Saturday, 18 July 2015, 14:46, "Frank Stamford frank.stamford@... [LRRSA]" wrote:


 
On 18/07/2015 2:28 PM, citadis@... [LRRSA] wrote:
 
Hi brad, Have tried that site but for the life of me, I can't find any loco drawings??

Cheers
greg

There are some here:

http://www.zelmeroz.com/album_rail/qld/1978-loco/Locos-1978_Drawings.pdf

Regards,

Frank

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Re: : Re: Cane Locos

Frank Stamford
 

On 18/07/2015 2:28 PM, citadis@... [LRRSA] wrote:
 

Hi brad, Have tried that site but for the life of me, I can't find any loco drawings??

Cheers
greg


There are some here:

http://www.zelmeroz.com/album_rail/qld/1978-loco/Locos-1978_Drawings.pdf

Regards,

Frank

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Re: : Re: Cane Locos

Greg King
 

Hi brad, Have tried that site but for the life of me, I can't find any loco drawings??

Cheers
greg


Re: Cane Locos

Brad P
 

Hi Greg,
             Google 'CaneSig'. Hundreds of photos and drawings to be found on there.

  Same state is good.
  I am trying to work out a way to get cane locos on a Batlow-ish layout :-)

Brad

On Jul 17, 2015 8:25 PM, "citadis@... [LRRSA]" <LRRSA@...> wrote:
 

Hi All,

I have just joined the group as I am very interested in the Cane Railways of Queensland. I have just returned from Cairns where I was amazed at just how comprehensive they are.

I model electric trams in 7mm scale and I would love to work in a small section of cane railways on my layout ( I know the cane railways did not run near electric tramways but I do model Brisbane trams as well so I'm in the same state!!!) and I was wondering if someone could point me in the direction where I might be able to get some loco drawings, I would like to do some of the current 0-6-0 fleet preferably or even some of the double truck versions.

Would anyone be able to assist me please?

best wishes
Greg



Re: Cane Locos

Geoffrey Hansen
 

Did the steam trams in Rockhampton run anywhere near the sugar tramways?

Or would the closest tramway have been the Brisbane tramways and the cane tramways at Nambour? (I wish I had paid more attention to the latter when it was still running).

Regards
Geoffrey


To: LRRSA@...
From: LRRSA@...
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 03:17:42 -0700
Subject: [LRRSA] Cane Locos

 
Hi All,

I have just joined the group as I am very interested in the Cane Railways of Queensland. I have just returned from Cairns where I was amazed at just how comprehensive they are.

I model electric trams in 7mm scale and I would love to work in a small section of cane railways on my layout ( I know the cane railways did not run near electric tramways but I do model Brisbane trams as well so I'm in the same state!!!) and I was wondering if someone could point me in the direction where I might be able to get some loco drawings, I would like to do some of the current 0-6-0 fleet preferably or even some of the double truck versions.

Would anyone be able to assist me please?

best wishes
Greg




Re: Cane Locos

Luke Horniblow
 

Hello.

There is a few groups on Facebook that could help.



To: LRRSA@...
From: LRRSA@...
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 23:34:29 +1000
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] Cane Locos

 

> I was wondering if someone could point me in the direction
> where I might be able to get some loco drawings, I would like
> to do some of the current 0-6-0 fleet preferably or even some
> of the double truck versions.
>
> Would anyone be able to assist me please?
>

Greg,

You might care to start looking at http://www.zelmeroz.com/canesig/

Stephen Cox
Canberra



Re: : Re: Cane Locos

Greg King
 

Hi David,

Australia, Sunbury Victoria to be exact.

Greg


Re: : Re: Cane Locos

Greg King
 

Hi Brian,

Wow, what a response, I guess any would be good but mainly I am interested in what South Johnstone uses as 0-6-0's, I think their 1-7 types, I'm sorry I am unfamiliar with them as individual locos, I always liked the old Clydes with the ridge along the hood but the current batch seem a bit more brutish, perhaps if I can find a picture and post it so you will know what I am after.

Thank you for your response.

Greg


Re: Cane Locos

Stephen Cox
 

I was wondering if someone could point me in the direction
where I might be able to get some loco drawings, I would like
to do some of the current 0-6-0 fleet preferably or even some
of the double truck versions.

Would anyone be able to assist me please?

Greg,

You might care to start looking at http://www.zelmeroz.com/canesig/


Stephen Cox
Canberra


Re: Cane Locos

David Halfpenny
 

Greg, what country are you in, please.

That could have quite an impact on the price of a book :-)

For example I saw a copy of Made by Baldwin for sale in England last week - quite a few drawings in that.

David 1/2d


On 17 Jul 2015, at 11:17, citadis@... [LRRSA] <LRRSA@...> wrote:

Hi All,

I have just joined the group as I am very interested in the Cane Railways of Queensland. I have just returned from Cairns where I was amazed at just how comprehensive they are.

I model electric trams in 7mm scale and I would love to work in a small section of cane railways on my layout ( I know the cane railways did not run near electric tramways but I do model Brisbane trams as well so I'm in the same state!!!) and I was wondering if someone could point me in the direction where I might be able to get some loco drawings, I would like to do some of the current 0-6-0 fleet preferably or even some of the double truck versions.

Would anyone be able to assist me please?

best wishes
Greg




Re: Cane Locos

Brian <rallim56@...>
 

Which type of loco’s do you want drawings of, Clyde, Comeng, Baldwin’s, Eimco’s or converted Walkers DH as in QR DH or 73 class?
 
Brian
Qld. Aust.
 

Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 8:17 PM
Subject: [LRRSA] Cane Locos
 


Hi All,

I have just joined the group as I am very interested in the Cane Railways of Queensland. I have just returned from Cairns where I was amazed at just how comprehensive they are.

I model electric trams in 7mm scale and I would love to work in a small section of cane railways on my layout ( I know the cane railways did not run near electric tramways but I do model Brisbane trams as well so I'm in the same state!!!) and I was wondering if someone could point me in the direction where I might be able to get some loco drawings, I would like to do some of the current 0-6-0 fleet preferably or even some of the double truck versions.

Would anyone be able to assist me please?

best wishes
Greg


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Cane Locos

Greg King
 

Hi All,

I have just joined the group as I am very interested in the Cane Railways of Queensland. I have just returned from Cairns where I was amazed at just how comprehensive they are.

I model electric trams in 7mm scale and I would love to work in a small section of cane railways on my layout ( I know the cane railways did not run near electric tramways but I do model Brisbane trams as well so I'm in the same state!!!) and I was wondering if someone could point me in the direction where I might be able to get some loco drawings, I would like to do some of the current 0-6-0 fleet preferably or even some of the double truck versions.

Would anyone be able to assist me please?

best wishes
Greg



Cane Locos

Greg King
 

Hi All,

I have just joined the group as I am very interested in the Cane Railways of Queensland. I have just returned from Cairns where I was amazed at just how comprehensive they are.

I model electric trams in 7mm scale and I would love to work in a small section of cane railways on my layout ( I know the cane railways did not run near electric tramways but I do model Brisbane trams as well so I'm in the same state!!!) and I was wondering if someone could point me in the direction where I might be able to get some loco drawings, I would like to do some of the current 0-6-0 fleet preferably or even some of the double truck versions.

Would anyone be able to assist me please?

best wishes
Greg


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