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Re: Google Earth and railway features

Stefan
 

Hello,

through the past years I used Google Earth to map down the whole Indonesia archipelago with the help some friends. We mapped down about 300 histroric and still existing sugar mills on Java island and elsewhere, plus douzens of logging lines on Java and Sumatra, plus plantation lines, mining railways and other industrials. And we also collected all the private and state owned public railways. The file contains all locations, factories, stations and so on and all track layouts as far we could find it. It is a very impressive work as finally it gave an impression how many railways have been there. Here are a few screen shots.








Beside indonesia I also started (but not completed) the same for a few other countries, Germany, Philippines, Fidji, Egypt, Laos, Angola, Mozambique, Puerto Rico, Reunion and Egypt (in these countries mostly only sugar industry).



Stefan


Am 11.10.2013 03:27, schrieb John Cleverdon:

 

Hello all,
After doing some recent work with Google Earth and KML files at work (land surveying/civil engineering design/town planning company), I wondered 'what other possibilities might there be?'
Railway features were something I thought of, and so I've created an example at: http://users.cdi.com.au/~johnc/kml_samples.htm for the well-known trestle bridge at Noojee. OK, it isn't narrow gauge, though 8-)

Could something such as this be of interest, also given the recent work on mapping the Powelltown line?

When I can find the time, I'll do something more advanced, showing part of the Warburton line and stations.

Regards,
John

--
John Cleverdon
Mornington Peninsula, Victoria, Australia
John's web page: http://users.cdi.com.au/~johnc/
LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/pub/john-cleverdon/a/a81/2b


Re: TULLOCH

Geoff Potter <potgeoff@...>
 

David,

Weston Langford's photograph database seemingly has many shots of the VR DRC railcars


I cannot locate any other images on the database from your list. It may be best to contact them direct and ask if they can assist.
regards
Geoff Potter


From: David Jehan
To: "LRRSA@..."
Sent: Saturday, 12 October 2013 7:48 PM
Subject: [LRRSA] TULLOCH

 
Gents,
 
I'm ripping into the Tulloch history so I can walk into the printer with this 250-300 page tome in late December/early January.
I'm after COLOUR shots of any of the following :-
 
South Maitland Railway railcars
Coal Cliff Colliery No. 5
VR W class locos
TGR W class locos
VR DRC railcars
 
Can anyone assist ?
 
Regards
Dave Jehan


Re: TULLOCH

John Dennis
 

Hi David,

I have a single slide of the SMR railcars, stored at East Greta, If nobody else puts their hand up with a photo of them in operation, I can send you a scan.

John


On 12 October 2013 19:48, David Jehan <davidjehan69@...> wrote:
 

Gents,
 
I'm ripping into the Tulloch history so I can walk into the printer with this 250-300 page tome in late December/early January.
I'm after COLOUR shots of any of the following :-
 
South Maitland Railway railcars
Coal Cliff Colliery No. 5
VR W class locos
TGR W class locos
VR DRC railcars
 

Re: TULLOCH

Peter Knife
 

Hi again David,

 

Sorry, scratch the TGR W class from me – just found it, but my shot isn’t worth considering. Someone else is bound to have a better one.

 

Cheers,

Peter Knife

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...] On Behalf Of Peter Knife
Sent: Saturday, 12 October 2013 9:13 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] TULLOCH

 

 

Hi David,

 

I can help with both VR and TGR W classes. Will scan some slides and forward to you.

 

Cheers,

Peter Knife

 

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...] On Behalf Of David Jehan
Sent: Saturday, 12 October 2013 7:18 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: [LRRSA] TULLOCH

 

 

Gents,

 

I'm ripping into the Tulloch history so I can walk into the printer with this 250-300 page tome in late December/early January.

I'm after COLOUR shots of any of the following :-

 

South Maitland Railway railcars

Coal Cliff Colliery No. 5

VR W class locos

TGR W class locos

VR DRC railcars

 

Can anyone assist ?

 

Regards

Dave Jehan

._,___

Re: TULLOCH

Peter Knife
 

Hi David,

 

I can help with both VR and TGR W classes. Will scan some slides and forward to you.

 

Cheers,

Peter Knife

 

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...] On Behalf Of David Jehan
Sent: Saturday, 12 October 2013 7:18 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: [LRRSA] TULLOCH

 

 

Gents,

 

I'm ripping into the Tulloch history so I can walk into the printer with this 250-300 page tome in late December/early January.

I'm after COLOUR shots of any of the following :-

 

South Maitland Railway railcars

Coal Cliff Colliery No. 5

VR W class locos

TGR W class locos

VR DRC railcars

 

Can anyone assist ?

 

Regards

Dave Jehan

._,___

Re: TULLOCH

David Axup
 

Dave,

 

Have you looked at Mark Bau’s site www.victorianrailways.net for photos of the VR DRC railcars.  You can contact Mark through the website.

 

Cheers,

 

David  Axup

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...] On Behalf Of David Jehan
Sent: Saturday, 12 October 2013 7:48 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: [LRRSA] TULLOCH

 

 

Gents,

 

I'm ripping into the Tulloch history so I can walk into the printer with this 250-300 page tome in late December/early January.

I'm after COLOUR shots of any of the following :-

 

South Maitland Railway railcars

Coal Cliff Colliery No. 5

VR W class locos

TGR W class locos

VR DRC railcars

 

Can anyone assist ?

 

Regards

Dave Jehan

Re: Google Earth and railway features

hairyleg@y7mail.com
 

Thanks for the plug Eddie.

Read about it here:
http://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11349045-s100.htm

and download it here:
http://www.ozroads.com.au/rail/hairyleg_aus_tracks_rev03_2012_10_24.kmz

p.s. I will soon be releasing an update.

John
(HairyLeg)

--- In LRRSA@..., Eddie Oliver <eoliver@...> wrote:

Of course there is the truly remarkable KML mapping of (intended to be)
all Australian railways, created by "Hairyleg" and available from
railpage or ozroads. The effort involved in creating it must have been
astronomical, and it is amazingly good although not absolutely perfect.

TULLOCH

David Jehan
 

Gents,
 
I'm ripping into the Tulloch history so I can walk into the printer with this 250-300 page tome in late December/early January.
I'm after COLOUR shots of any of the following :-
 
South Maitland Railway railcars
Coal Cliff Colliery No. 5
VR W class locos
TGR W class locos
VR DRC railcars
 
Can anyone assist ?
 
Regards
Dave Jehan

Google Earth and railway features

Iain
 

I use Google Earth for my archaeological and historical work and it is really useful.

 

There is some ability to overlay historical plans and aerials which will be usefully for researching old railway lines.

 

The datum is, I think, slightly different from GDA/MGA which is the Australian one but if you are using a simple GPS then you are working at a 5-10m level of accuracy so it probably doesn’t matter but it comes up as an issue when I load kmls into ArcGIS.

 

There is a good tutorial on the Geospatial Historian website on how to use Google Earth http://geospatialhistorian.wordpress.com/

 

Cheers

 

Dr Iain Stuart

 

JCIS Consultants

P.O. Box 2397

Burwood North

NSW 2134

Australia

 

(02) 97010191

Iain_Stuart@...

 

Re: Google Earth and railway features

Chris Stratton
 

Right-click on the file, select Save Target As, and change the extension to .kml (In Internet Explorer the extension defaults to .xml).

Then you can double-click the file and Google Earth will open, as long as you have it installed.

 

Regards,

Chris

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...] On Behalf Of Frank Stamford
Sent: Friday, 11 October 2013 7:00 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Google Earth and railway features

 




Hello Brian,

 

You are right!

 

It is a kml file - keyhole markup language, which is used with Google Earth.

 

I think those who use Google Earth will understand these, and know how to use them.

 

There are quite a number of people in the LRRSA who are using Google Earth with very good results.

 

Google Earth was one of the tools used by Mike McCarthy in producing the maps and gradient profiles in the Powelltown Tramway Centenary publication.


Regards,

 

Frank


On 11/10/2013, at 17:52, "Brian" <rallim56@...> wrote:

 

All as it gives you is a bunch of numbers???

 

Brian
Qld. Aust.

 

Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 11:27 AM

Subject: [LRRSA] Google Earth and railway features

 



Hello all,
After doing some recent work with Google Earth and KML files at work (land surveying/civil engineering design/town planning company), I wondered 'what other possibilities might there be?'
Railway features were something I thought of, and so I've created an example at: http://users.cdi.com.au/~johnc/kml_samples.htm for the well-known trestle bridge at Noojee. OK, it isn't narrow gauge, though 8-)

Could something such as this be of interest, also given the recent work on mapping the Powelltown line?

When I can find the time, I'll do something more advanced, showing part of the Warburton line and stations.

Regards,
John

--
John Cleverdon
Mornington Peninsula, Victoria, Australia
John's web page: http://users.cdi.com.au/~johnc/
LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/pub/john-cleverdon/a/a81/2b

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Re: Google Earth and railway features

Sam Laybutt
 

Brian,

You will need to "right click" and "save as" the link in John's email. Then open that file in Google Earth.

Cheers
Sam


To: LRRSA@...
From: frank.stamford@...
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 18:59:50 +1100
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Google Earth and railway features

 

Hello Brian,

You are right!

It is a kml file - keyhole markup language, which is used with Google Earth.

I think those who use Google Earth will understand these, and know how to use them.

There are quite a number of people in the LRRSA who are using Google Earth with very good results.

Google Earth was one of the tools used by Mike McCarthy in producing the maps and gradient profiles in the Powelltown Tramway Centenary publication.

Regards,

Frank

On 11/10/2013, at 17:52, "Brian" <rallim56@...> wrote:

 

All as it gives you is a bunch of numbers???
 
Brian
Qld. Aust.
 
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 11:27 AM
Subject: [LRRSA] Google Earth and railway features
 


Hello all,
After doing some recent work with Google Earth and KML files at work (land surveying/civil engineering design/town planning company), I wondered 'what other possibilities might there be?'
Railway features were something I thought of, and so I've created an example at: http://users.cdi.com.au/~johnc/kml_samples.htm for the well-known trestle bridge at Noojee. OK, it isn't narrow gauge, though 8-)

Could something such as this be of interest, also given the recent work on mapping the Powelltown line?

When I can find the time, I'll do something more advanced, showing part of the Warburton line and stations.

Regards,
John
--
John Cleverdon
Mornington Peninsula, Victoria, Australia
John's web page: http://users.cdi.com.au/~johnc/
LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/pub/john-cleverdon/a/a81/2b

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Re: Google Earth and railway features

Eddie Oliver <eoliver@...>
 

Of course there is the truly remarkable KML mapping of (intended to be) all Australian railways, created by "Hairyleg" and available from railpage or ozroads. The effort involved in creating it must have been astronomical, and it is amazingly good although not absolutely perfect.

Re: Google Earth and railway features

Frank Stamford
 

Hello Brian,

You are right!

It is a kml file - keyhole markup language, which is used with Google Earth.

I think those who use Google Earth will understand these, and know how to use them.

There are quite a number of people in the LRRSA who are using Google Earth with very good results.

Google Earth was one of the tools used by Mike McCarthy in producing the maps and gradient profiles in the Powelltown Tramway Centenary publication.

Regards,

Frank

On 11/10/2013, at 17:52, "Brian" <rallim56@...> wrote:

 

All as it gives you is a bunch of numbers???
 
Brian
Qld. Aust.
 
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 11:27 AM
Subject: [LRRSA] Google Earth and railway features
 


Hello all,
After doing some recent work with Google Earth and KML files at work (land surveying/civil engineering design/town planning company), I wondered 'what other possibilities might there be?'
Railway features were something I thought of, and so I've created an example at: http://users.cdi.com.au/~johnc/kml_samples.htm for the well-known trestle bridge at Noojee. OK, it isn't narrow gauge, though 8-)

Could something such as this be of interest, also given the recent work on mapping the Powelltown line?

When I can find the time, I'll do something more advanced, showing part of the Warburton line and stations.

Regards,
John
--
John Cleverdon
Mornington Peninsula, Victoria, Australia
John's web page: http://users.cdi.com.au/~johnc/
LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/pub/john-cleverdon/a/a81/2b

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Re: Google Earth and railway features

Brian <rallim56@...>
 

All as it gives you is a bunch of numbers???
 
Brian
Qld. Aust.
 

Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 11:27 AM
Subject: [LRRSA] Google Earth and railway features
 


Hello all,
After doing some recent work with Google Earth and KML files at work (land surveying/civil engineering design/town planning company), I wondered 'what other possibilities might there be?'
Railway features were something I thought of, and so I've created an example at: http://users.cdi.com.au/~johnc/kml_samples.htm for the well-known trestle bridge at Noojee. OK, it isn't narrow gauge, though 8-)

Could something such as this be of interest, also given the recent work on mapping the Powelltown line?

When I can find the time, I'll do something more advanced, showing part of the Warburton line and stations.

Regards,
John
--
John Cleverdon
Mornington Peninsula, Victoria, Australia
John's web page: http://users.cdi.com.au/~johnc/
LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/pub/john-cleverdon/a/a81/2b

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Google Earth and railway features

John Cleverdon
 

Hello all,
After doing some recent work with Google Earth and KML files at work (land surveying/civil engineering design/town planning company), I wondered 'what other possibilities might there be?'
Railway features were something I thought of, and so I've created an example at: http://users.cdi.com.au/~johnc/kml_samples.htm for the well-known trestle bridge at Noojee. OK, it isn't narrow gauge, though 8-)

Could something such as this be of interest, also given the recent work on mapping the Powelltown line?

When I can find the time, I'll do something more advanced, showing part of the Warburton line and stations.

Regards,
John
--
John Cleverdon
Mornington Peninsula, Victoria, Australia
John's web page: http://users.cdi.com.au/~johnc/
LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/pub/john-cleverdon/a/a81/2b

Re: October issue - State Brickworks

Michael McCarthy
 

Thanks Iain, it was a lot of fun digging into it. You are quite right of course about the Hoffman needing a continuous run to work effectively. Sadly, at Wonthaggi, because of the clay and coal, the process was such a failure they never successfully completed a single round of the kiln. The lack of long term demand for bricks didn't get the chance to prove that it was doomed for failure anyway!
Cheers,
Mike

--- In LRRSA@..., "Iain Stuart" <iain_stuart@...> wrote:

I got my October issue yesterday and to Mike McCarthy on his article on the
State Brickworks at Wonthaggi congratulations and, reflecting on my half
written article of over 20years; Bugger!



I really like the maps and plans.



The apart from the poor clay and coal, other problem with the Hoffman kiln
is that it was a continuous one that required a decent demand for bricks so
it could run continuously. You couldn't simple burn a kiln of a few hundred
bricks you had to run the thing for a few months to really get it going.
Most brick yards had a continuous kiln and then had a few Scotch kilns to do
special bricks or small runs when the Hoffman kiln was not working.



I do however agree that the State Brickworks was a fiasco however not the
only one involving Hoffman kilns.



Cheers



Dr Iain Stuart



JCIS Consultants

P.O. Box 2397

Burwood North

NSW 2134

Australia



(02) 97010191

Iain_Stuart@...

Re: October issue - State Brickworks

Colin Harvey
 

Iain 

>reflecting on my half written article of over 20years
Perhaps you would like to do something on the Hoffman brickworks at Brunswick?

Colin


 


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On 10/10/2013 06:43, Iain Stuart wrote:

Most brick yards had a continuous kiln and then had a few Scotch kilns to do special bricks or small runs when the Hoffman kiln was not working.

I visited a modern brickworks in the UK a couple of months ago and they had a "tunnel kiln" (where pallets of bricks are carried by chain through a long chamber with gas burners in the centre), as well as a couple of box kilns for doing small jobs, mainly of decorative bricks and tiles.

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Re: October issue - State Brickworks

B.Rumary
 

On 10/10/2013 06:43, Iain Stuart wrote:

Most brick yards had a continuous kiln and then had a few Scotch kilns to do special bricks or small runs when the Hoffman kiln was not working.

 

I visited a modern brickworks in the UK a couple of months ago and they had a "tunnel kiln" (where pallets of bricks are carried by chain through a long chamber with gas burners in the centre), as well as a couple of box kilns for doing small jobs, mainly of decorative bricks and tiles.

-- 
Brian Rumary
England

*** Moreton Mill 10th Anniversary Celebration Update. ***

Brad P
 

*** Moreton Mill 10th Anniversary Celebration Update. ***

Guys, just a quick update for the upcoming anniversary weekend at Nambour (see flyer in files section).

Space at the Saturday night BBQ Clive's place at is slowly filling. However with limited space, please email or PM me if you wish to come.
We have confirmed a speaker about the Mapleton line, and think we have one to discuss the Buderim line and current plans. We await confirmation of a third speaker.
A BBQ will be supplied for a small cost, money being raised going to the Nambour historical society.
We also plan to have videos showing and ask anyone coming if they could share same.

Saturday morning we have a group visit to the Nambour Historical Society, while just after lunch a guided tour of the Mapleton line has been organized.
Sunday morning (8am - time subject to confirmation) a guided tour of part of the Buderim line is being organized.
In between these events it is planned to view as much of the old Moreton system as possible.

The BBQ and entertainment evening is the only event that strictly needs to be booked in due to space - all others are freely open for you to attend at your leisure.

Email me and join the mailing list for info:

PRHS . Society @ gmail . com (Remove spaces)


--

October issue - State Brickworks

Iain
 

I got my October issue yesterday and to Mike McCarthy on his article on the State Brickworks at Wonthaggi congratulations and, reflecting on my half written article of over 20years;   Bugger!  

 

I really like the maps and plans.

 

The apart from the poor clay and coal, other problem with the Hoffman kiln is that it was a continuous one that required a decent demand for bricks so it could run continuously. You couldn’t simple burn a kiln of a few hundred bricks you had to run the thing for a few months to really get it going. Most brick yards had a continuous kiln and then had a few Scotch kilns to do special bricks or small runs when the Hoffman kiln was not working.

 

I do however agree that the State Brickworks was a fiasco however not the only one involving Hoffman kilns.

 

Cheers

 

Dr Iain Stuart

 

JCIS Consultants

P.O. Box 2397

Burwood North

NSW 2134

Australia

 

(02) 97010191

Iain_Stuart@...