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Re: Mt Lyell electric locos

Chris Stratton
 

I have a photo of one on display at the mine in Queenstown in 1987, I can’t see a number so don’t know which it is.

 

Regards,

CS

 

From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...] On Behalf Of John Browning
Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2013 12:24 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: [LRRSA] Mt Lyell electric locos

 




I am on the lookout for a late photo of 2ft gauge overhead wire electric locomotive number 4 at Mt Lyell.

It was similar to the three English Electrics numbered 1 to 3.

While there are quite a few of it around in its earlier days, I’d like to find one from the 1970s, or of it after its withdrawal.

It was reportedly out the back of the Zeehan Museum in 1997 but has since disappeared. Perhaps someone took a photo of it there?

Thanks

 

     John

 





Mt Lyell electric locos

John Browning
 

I am on the lookout for a late photo of 2ft gauge overhead wire electric locomotive number 4 at Mt Lyell.

It was similar to the three English Electrics numbered 1 to 3.

While there are quite a few of it around in its earlier days, I’d like to find one from the 1970s, or of it after its withdrawal.

It was reportedly out the back of the Zeehan Museum in 1997 but has since disappeared. Perhaps someone took a photo of it there?

Thanks

 

     John

 


Re: New Books available from LRRSA Online Shop

John Dennis
 

Bother - accidentally pressed "send".

Go to the online shop through http://www.lrrsa.org.au/LRR_Online_shop.html and both books appear as "Featured Items",

John Dennis


On 27 April 2013 16:47, John Dennis <jdennis412@...> wrote:
Hi All,

Given the next Light Railways, and therefore Members News & Sales List is five or so weeks away, I thought I might let everybody know that the LRRSA Online Shop has a couple of new books in stock.

Wombat Woodsmen by Norm Houghton 
Sawmills and timber tramways of the Wombat State Forest 1853 to 2008.

The foundations of large scale commercial sawmilling in Victoria were laid in the Wombat Forest from 1853. This forest was the testing ground for ideas and attitudes to the harvesting, transport and sawing techniques that forged resource management and sawmilling management styles well into the 20th century. The discovery of gold throughout Victoria from 1851 onwards led to the opening of numerous mining sites and the mining centres of central Victoria were to require an enormous supply of timber and the eucalypt trees of the Wombat Forest were ideally placed to supply that need.
Soft cover, 166 pages, 40 maps and diagrams, 161 photographs. Price $47.50 plus postage.
With the 10% discount for LRRSA members that comes down to $42.75 [plus postage]


The Anatomy of:- The Darjeeling Garratt and the Engine it tried to Replace By Peter Manning.

In the same format as the popular "The Anatomy of a Garratt", this book covers the history of both the Garratt and the B Class locomotives used on the DHR. The book includes details of the construction of both locomotives and a superb selection of accurate scale drawings mostly in full colour. Drawings on the B Class is shown both as constructed by Sharp, Stewart from 1888 onwards, and as revised by North British in 1914.

Like its predecessor, it contains numerous sub-assembly diagrams from various aspects, shown in both complete form, and as cut-aways showing the interior workings.

64 pages, A4 size landscape format, card cover spiral bound. Price excluding postage is $39.95, or $35.96 to LRRSA members.


New Books available from LRRSA Online Shop

John Dennis
 

Hi All,

Given the next Light Railways, and therefore Members News & Sales List is five or so weeks away, I thought I might let everybody know that the LRRSA Online Shop has a couple of new books in stock.

Wombat Woodsmen by Norm Houghton 
Sawmills and timber tramways of the Wombat State Forest 1853 to 2008.

The foundations of large scale commercial sawmilling in Victoria were laid in the Wombat Forest from 1853. This forest was the testing ground for ideas and attitudes to the harvesting, transport and sawing techniques that forged resource management and sawmilling management styles well into the 20th century. The discovery of gold throughout Victoria from 1851 onwards led to the opening of numerous mining sites and the mining centres of central Victoria were to require an enormous supply of timber and the eucalypt trees of the Wombat Forest were ideally placed to supply that need.
Soft cover, 166 pages, 40 maps and diagrams, 161 photographs. Price $47.50 plus postage.
With the 10% discount for LRRSA members that comes down to $42.75 [plus postage]


The Anatomy of:- The Darjeeling Garratt and the Engine it tried to Replace By Peter Manning.

In the same format as the popular "The Anatomy of a Garratt", this book covers the history of both the Garratt and the B Class locomotives used on the DHR. The book includes details of the construction of both locomotives and a superb selection of accurate scale drawings mostly in full colour. Drawings on the B Class is shown both as constructed by Sharp, Stewart from 1888 onwards, and as revised by North British in 1914.

Like its predecessor, it contains numerous sub-assembly diagrams from various aspects, shown in both complete form, and as cut-aways showing the interior workings.

64 pages, A4 size landscape format, card cover spiral bound. Price excluding postage is $39.95, or $35.96 to LRRSA members.


Re: Magnet Town film and adventure

Mark Trainbrain
 

Hi Sam,
 The Arthur River has variously been known as the Whyte River or Magnet Creek from what I gather, but these days is known as the Arthur River all the way to Magnet.
 There were a number of bridges over the Arthur, the one in the town area was a footbridge-the abutments are still obvious next to the little stamper battery, and the rail bridge still more-or-less standing is further east, just before the line climbs through the rainforest section.
-Mark



On 24/04/2013 12:36 PM, Sam Laybutt wrote:
Thanks Mark. Is the old bridge over Arthur River located at the town site? or further east?

I've got the 1:25 000 Tasmap series topos for that area (not sure of the map name as I don't have it on me right now). It shows the route of the line as a track and also shows the 'Proclaimed Town of Magnet'. No other useful features as far as I can see unfortunately. 


To: LRRSA@...
From: trainbrain@...
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:07:20 +1000
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Magnet Town film and adventure

 
Hi all,
 As Tony said, the narrator was referring to the mine tunnel or adit. Part of the switchback is now washed away, and it was very steep!
 The mine is south west of the town site. Unfortunately Google Earth shows a nuisance cloud cover over the area. If you plug  41°26'24.16"S 145°27'5.27"E into Google Earth you will see where the town area was, the mine is approximately at  41°26'38.60"S 145°26'52.29"E.

Which topo maps do you have? Mine are next to useless...
Cheers,
 Mark



Re: Hattah - Spectacle Lake tramway

John Dennis
 

Google Maps has a nice view of what I believe to be Lake Daytrap. It shows a couple of lagoons which could have been used to harvest salt. Wonder where the heritage rails might be?  Here:

https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=-35.183507,142.803876&spn=0.016398,0.024698&t=k&z=16

I am planning to drive from Swan Hill to Mildura in about three weeks time, via Managatang, Annuello and the Hattah-Kulkyne Lakes NP. Lake Daytrap is only a short detour from Manangatang, so I might pop in.

John


--- In LRRSA@..., "Phil" wrote:
>
>
> The mention of SUNRAY SALT PTY LTD is also interesting. Nothing found in Trove, however an entry in the Vic Heritage Database has this Swan Hill-based company commencing salt harvesting operations at Lake Daytrap, Parish of Gerahmin (abt 14km due west of Chinkapook) in 1934, and says "Low to moderate [heritage value] however the railway lines may be a unique feature".
>
> Whilst rail lines at salt lakes are certainly NOT unique, I had not previously heard of this operation. Clearly there are still remains there . . . This operation is not mentioned in "The Cheetham Chronicles".
>
> Do we have any intepid travelling researchers up near the Mallee who might just happen to be "passing" and could have a squizz and report?
> (Google "Sunray Salt Mine" Yes , I know it's not a mine . . . !)
>
> cheers Phil Rickard


Re: Nerang Central Sugar Mill

Petan
 

Thanks Mike as your explanation allows me to solve a few other puzzles on
those maps!!!

Cheers
Peter Cokley

-----Original Message-----
From: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au [mailto:LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au] On Behalf
Of Mike Bickford
Sent: Thursday, 25 April 2013 5:05 PM
To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Re: Nerang Central Sugar Mill

Hi Peter C,

Those symbols are used to indicate the land on either side of the road
corridor form a single lot For instance the example you gave of the number
44 near Benowa Road - this refers to a Lot 44 which is bisected by Benowa
Road.

cheers,
Mike Bickford
Murrumburrah-Harden
NSW
Australia

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter C" <yahoomail@petan.net>
To: <LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 3:48 PM
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] Re: Nerang Central Sugar Mill

I need some help with mapping legends from early last century, please, as
shown on this map?
http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk478/petanoz/Tramways/NCSM-cadastral0001
-mill_zps5dd67a6a.jpg

Towards the bottom of that map is the Carrara Ferry and under that the
Carrara School. The main road next to the Carrara School has a line across
that is bent in opposite directions at each end. Can anyone explain that
symbol please? There is a similar symbol on the tramway under the sugar
mill> and another on Benowa Rd north of the mill near the number 44? It
appears
on > many other places on that map as well as similar maps of that era.
Thanks
Peter Cokley


Re: Nerang Central Sugar Mill

Mike Bickford <mikebickford@...>
 

Hi Peter C,

Those symbols are used to indicate the land on either side of the road corridor form a single lot
For instance the example you gave of the number 44 near Benowa Road - this refers to a Lot 44 which is bisected by Benowa Road.

cheers,
Mike Bickford
Murrumburrah-Harden
NSW
Australia

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter C" <yahoomail@petan.net>
To: <LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 3:48 PM
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] Re: Nerang Central Sugar Mill


I need some help with mapping legends from early last century, please, as
shown on this map?
http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk478/petanoz/Tramways/NCSM-cadastral0001
-mill_zps5dd67a6a.jpg

Towards the bottom of that map is the Carrara Ferry and under that the
Carrara School. The main road next to the Carrara School has a line across
that is bent in opposite directions at each end. Can anyone explain that
symbol please? There is a similar symbol on the tramway under the sugar mill
and another on Benowa Rd north of the mill near the number 44? It appears on
many other places on that map as well as similar maps of that era.

Thanks
Peter Cokley



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Re: Nerang Central Sugar Mill

Petan
 

I need some help with mapping legends from early last century, please, as
shown on this map?
http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk478/petanoz/Tramways/NCSM-cadastral0001
-mill_zps5dd67a6a.jpg

Towards the bottom of that map is the Carrara Ferry and under that the
Carrara School. The main road next to the Carrara School has a line across
that is bent in opposite directions at each end. Can anyone explain that
symbol please? There is a similar symbol on the tramway under the sugar mill
and another on Benowa Rd north of the mill near the number 44? It appears on
many other places on that map as well as similar maps of that era.

Thanks
Peter Cokley


Re: Hattah - Spectacle Lake tramway

rjluke63
 

Thanks for the answers

John has the plan I was looking at. The line from Hattah station heading east is a pipe line to the Hattah Lakes, where a pump is still set up for delivery of water to the station. You can see the location at the western edge of "Lake Hattah" on Google maps.

I'm spending a bit of time up that way over the next couple of months, so I'll have a look around. Interesting that no ones had a look at it before. I know there was a line from Linga to the Pink Lakes salt mine, which is well documented. I might have to drop by Chinkapook as well.

FYI, in NSW, if you want to extract salt from a lake, you need a mining licence... It's a very open cut mine :)

Cheers

Rick

--- In LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au, "Phil" <chy_gwel_an_meneth@...> wrote:

A quick trawl in Trove found an 1918 advert from Crown Lands calling for tenders for the removal of salt from the various Spectacle lakes (North and South). Ditto in 1921 and 1925.

The Argus, 27 Nov 1926, advert has the assets of DONALD MACLEOD AND CO PTY LTD [note: spelling is, correctly, MacLeod, not McLeod], salt merchants, in liquidation, up for sale. Items are at Pink Lakes, Underbool, Hattah and Melbourne. No mention of tramway or associated plant however Norm Houghton's artcle "The Cheetham Chronicles" Part 1, LR112, page 7, mentions "McLeod used a tramway", presumably only for salt harvesting on the lake, not for transport to Hattah. [Note the map on page 7 has these lakes on the west (incorrect) side of Hattah, whereas they are to the east.]

The Melbourne plant included a "Caterpillar-type" all-steel waggon. This vehicle is mentioned in The Argus 22 Aug 1923 as being on test on sandy ground at Port Melbourne - it was designed for travelling over soft, muddy ground, such as one might encounter at a salt lake.
Whether it was ever tried at Underbool or Hattah is unknown.

The mention of SUNRAY SALT PTY LTD is also interesting. Nothing found in Trove, however an entry in the Vic Heritage Database has this Swan Hill-based company commencing salt harvesting operations at Lake Daytrap, Parish of Gerahmin (abt 14km due west of Chinkapook) in 1934, and says "Low to moderate [heritage value] however the railway lines may be a unique feature".

Whilst rail lines at salt lakes are certainly NOT unique, I had not previously heard of this operation. Clearly there are still remains there . . . This operation is not mentioned in "The Cheetham Chronicles".

Do we have any intepid travelling researchers up near the Mallee who might just happen to be "passing" and could have a squizz and report?
(Google "Sunray Salt Mine" Yes , I know it's not a mine . . . !)

cheers Phil Rickard



--- In LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au, "John Hyett" <john.hyett@> wrote:

My digital copy of the parish map, dated Nov 1918 but with modern additions,
shows the tramline from Spectacle Lake to the Hattah railway station. It is
marked "Donald McLeod & Co Pty Ltd (crossed out) Tramway". At Spectacle Lake
in finishes in an area marked with dotted red lines and labeled "D Thomson,
L Hobbs, D Collicoat (all crossed out) permission to stockpile within broken
red lines". The northern end of the lake is marked "Sunray Salt Pty Ltd".
There are no dates or Gazette numbers for any of these annotations. The
Hattah TP (dated Sept 1929 and again with modern additions) does not show
the tramway but does show an area at the rail yards owned by the "Salt
Transport Authority". It would seem reasonable to assume that the tramway
was used to transport salt from the lake to the rail link to Melbourne.

Hope this is of some help

Cheers John




Re: Hattah - Spectacle Lake tramway

Phil <chy_gwel_an_meneth@...>
 

A quick trawl in Trove found an 1918 advert from Crown Lands calling for tenders for the removal of salt from the various Spectacle lakes (North and South). Ditto in 1921 and 1925.

The Argus, 27 Nov 1926, advert has the assets of DONALD MACLEOD AND CO PTY LTD [note: spelling is, correctly, MacLeod, not McLeod], salt merchants, in liquidation, up for sale. Items are at Pink Lakes, Underbool, Hattah and Melbourne. No mention of tramway or associated plant however Norm Houghton's artcle "The Cheetham Chronicles" Part 1, LR112, page 7, mentions "McLeod used a tramway", presumably only for salt harvesting on the lake, not for transport to Hattah. [Note the map on page 7 has these lakes on the west (incorrect) side of Hattah, whereas they are to the east.]

The Melbourne plant included a "Caterpillar-type" all-steel waggon. This vehicle is mentioned in The Argus 22 Aug 1923 as being on test on sandy ground at Port Melbourne - it was designed for travelling over soft, muddy ground, such as one might encounter at a salt lake.
Whether it was ever tried at Underbool or Hattah is unknown.

The mention of SUNRAY SALT PTY LTD is also interesting. Nothing found in Trove, however an entry in the Vic Heritage Database has this Swan Hill-based company commencing salt harvesting operations at Lake Daytrap, Parish of Gerahmin (abt 14km due west of Chinkapook) in 1934, and says "Low to moderate [heritage value] however the railway lines may be a unique feature".

Whilst rail lines at salt lakes are certainly NOT unique, I had not previously heard of this operation. Clearly there are still remains there . . . This operation is not mentioned in "The Cheetham Chronicles".

Do we have any intepid travelling researchers up near the Mallee who might just happen to be "passing" and could have a squizz and report?
(Google "Sunray Salt Mine" Yes , I know it's not a mine . . . !)

cheers Phil Rickard

--- In LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au, "John Hyett" <john.hyett@...> wrote:

My digital copy of the parish map, dated Nov 1918 but with modern additions,
shows the tramline from Spectacle Lake to the Hattah railway station. It is
marked "Donald McLeod & Co Pty Ltd (crossed out) Tramway". At Spectacle Lake
in finishes in an area marked with dotted red lines and labeled "D Thomson,
L Hobbs, D Collicoat (all crossed out) permission to stockpile within broken
red lines". The northern end of the lake is marked "Sunray Salt Pty Ltd".
There are no dates or Gazette numbers for any of these annotations. The
Hattah TP (dated Sept 1929 and again with modern additions) does not show
the tramway but does show an area at the rail yards owned by the "Salt
Transport Authority". It would seem reasonable to assume that the tramway
was used to transport salt from the lake to the rail link to Melbourne.

Hope this is of some help

Cheers John




Re: Magnet Town film and adventure

Rod Hutchinson
 

Hi Mark,

That is a fascinating movie. I watched it on the train coming home tonight.  I observe that timber fences and houses are in good condition, not that run down look often favoured by modelers.

The images of the Mallett coming round the curves is fantastic.  Pass on my thanks to Mark F.

Rod H

On Apr 23, 2013 5:30 PM, "Mark Kendrick" <trainbrain@...> wrote:
 

Hi all,
Mark Fry was kind enough to pass on a copy of this film to me at the
Aus Narrow Gauge Convention over Easter, and I have since found it has
already been uploaded to Youtube:
http://youtu.be/ADYFY6xisAY

I spent a couple of days towards the middle of March exploring Magnet
and drove whilst videoing the track bed from Waratah to the mine, not
really a viable track to drive unless you don't mind scratching your 4WD
due to overgrowth.
Gee that track is dark and dank until it levels with the Arthur River.
Historic photos show the hillsides bare of trees, the regrowth has
closed in successfully, so it is hard to pick out locations where photos
of the train was taken.
The valley where the mine and town was is thoroughly revegetated
predominately with Celery Top Pine too.
There are still some fantastic remains at the mine site, uprights from
the concentrating shed, brick foundations from the crusher, concrete
foundations from the hydro powerhouse and auxilliary power plant, a
small stamp mill below the town area, the main adit and the later lower
level trial adit, a pair of boots by the site of a workman's hut,
bottles and bricks at the site of the shops, footbridge abutments,
embankments, the enormous overburden/spoil banks that dominate
everything, rusty mine skips, a vertical boiler and lengths of rail 'up
the gully'. There is still most of a bridge over the Arthur River and of
course most of the earthworks are still more or less intact. I took
around 20 gig of digital media of the line and mine site! I can upload
to photobucket a selection of photos if anyone is interested. A photo of
my camp with the concentrating mill in the background can be seen here:
http://s418.photobucket.com/user/Burra2a/media/On-The-Road/20130320_092439a_zpsb2eb5c28.jpg.html

Now I have grandiose plans to model the Magnet Tram and mine/town far
more accurately than I had previously intended.
Regards,
Mark K
who was going to rejoin the LRRSA at the ANGC but there wasn't a stand :(


Re: section car driver wanted

CNsylvester
 

What a classic!

 

When was the last ad for a Section Car Driver 197?

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: crannyjohn

Sent: 04/23/13 09:21 PM

To: LRRSA@...

Subject: [LRRSA] section car driver wanted

 
 

Hello,

The Loxton Historical Village near Renmark SA is an interesting place that has among other things the only remains of a Caillet monorail in the world; the subject of a future article in Light Railways.

They run a Fairmont section car on their open days but need more volunteer drivers. If you are interested in helping out occasionally please contact them via the volunteer link at the site:

http://www.loxtonhistoricalvillage.com.au/

Cheers
John P

 


Re: Magnet Town film and adventure

halfpilotstaff
 

Thanks Mark for posting this, most fascinating. Puts me in mind of long-gone mining places like Glen Davis, Newnes and Joadja.

I have taken the liberty of posting the YouTube link on Railpage etc. in the Railway Archaeology forums. I'm sure you'd agree that that little film well deserves to get to a wider & appreciative audience.

Cheerz

Alec Piggott

--- In LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au, Mark Kendrick <trainbrain@...> wrote:

Hi all,
Mark Fry was kind enough to pass on a copy of this film to me at the
Aus Narrow Gauge Convention over Easter, and I have since found it has
already been uploaded to Youtube:
http://youtu.be/ADYFY6xisAY

I spent a couple of days towards the middle of March exploring Magnet
and drove whilst videoing the track bed from Waratah to the mine, not
really a viable track to drive unless you don't mind scratching your 4WD
due to overgrowth.
Gee that track is dark and dank until it levels with the Arthur River.
Historic photos show the hillsides bare of trees, the regrowth has
closed in successfully, so it is hard to pick out locations where photos
of the train was taken.
The valley where the mine and town was is thoroughly revegetated
predominately with Celery Top Pine too.
There are still some fantastic remains at the mine site, uprights from
the concentrating shed, brick foundations from the crusher, concrete
foundations from the hydro powerhouse and auxilliary power plant, a
small stamp mill below the town area, the main adit and the later lower
level trial adit, a pair of boots by the site of a workman's hut,
bottles and bricks at the site of the shops, footbridge abutments,
embankments, the enormous overburden/spoil banks that dominate
everything, rusty mine skips, a vertical boiler and lengths of rail 'up
the gully'. There is still most of a bridge over the Arthur River and of
course most of the earthworks are still more or less intact. I took
around 20 gig of digital media of the line and mine site! I can upload
to photobucket a selection of photos if anyone is interested. A photo of
my camp with the concentrating mill in the background can be seen here:
http://s418.photobucket.com/user/Burra2a/media/On-The-Road/20130320_092439a_zpsb2eb5c28.jpg.html

Now I have grandiose plans to model the Magnet Tram and mine/town far
more accurately than I had previously intended.
Regards,
Mark K
who was going to rejoin the LRRSA at the ANGC but there wasn't a stand :(


Re: Nerang Central Sugar Mill

Petan
 

I am placing this on several groups in the hope something will be discovered.

Ever heard of the Rushton Ferry which transported sugar cane across the Nerang River, Gold Coast QLD, downstream of the Carrara public vehicle ferry at Benowa Rd and upstream of Meyers Ferry at Cavill Ave? Read about it here [downloadable] https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByB-ppGeDyvwMHNtT0VwWExxcEk/edit

A group of historians, some of whom are members of this yahoogroup, are attempting to discover data about the Rushton Ferry and the associated local history. The Carrara Ferry also had sugar tramway tracks so both in use in the sugar season. The two ferries, Rushton and Carrara, are mentioned in the scan I have attached which is from "When Sugar Cane Grew On The Banks Of The Nerang River" by Pat Fisher, in "Talk About Town" September 1993, page 7. The Rushton cane ferry must have been far enough downstream of the Carrara Ferry to make the Rushton Ferry worthwhile, otherwise cane would have used the Carrara one only. Heavy maintenance for the Rushton ferry was paid by the Nerang Central Sugar Mill in the 1915-16 financial year. That also tells us the Rushton Ferry was most likely mill property and thus probably disposed of along with the other mill equipment after the 1918 closure. The Carrara ferry finished c1952. Any extra data on the Rushton or any other similar local knowledge gratefully received, please???

Any data on the tramway on the southside of the Nerang River is also needed, please?

Thanks
Peter Cokley


Re: Magnet Town film and adventure

Sam Laybutt
 

Thanks Mark. Is the old bridge over Arthur River located at the town site? or further east?

I've got the 1:25 000 Tasmap series topos for that area (not sure of the map name as I don't have it on me right now). It shows the route of the line as a track and also shows the 'Proclaimed Town of Magnet'. No other useful features as far as I can see unfortunately. 


To: LRRSA@...
From: trainbrain@...
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:07:20 +1000
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Magnet Town film and adventure

 
Hi all,
 As Tony said, the narrator was referring to the mine tunnel or adit. Part of the switchback is now washed away, and it was very steep!
 The mine is south west of the town site. Unfortunately Google Earth shows a nuisance cloud cover over the area. If you plug  41°26'24.16"S 145°27'5.27"E into Google Earth you will see where the town area was, the mine is approximately at  41°26'38.60"S 145°26'52.29"E.

Which topo maps do you have? Mine are next to useless...
Cheers,
 Mark


Re: Magnet Town film and adventure

Mark Trainbrain
 

Hi all,
�As Tony said, the narrator was referring to the mine tunnel or adit. Part of the switchback is now washed away, and it was very steep!
�The mine is south west of the town site. Unfortunately Google Earth shows a nuisance cloud cover over the area. If you plug� 41�26'24.16"S 145�27'5.27"E into Google Earth you will see where the town area was, the mine is approximately at� 41�26'38.60"S 145�26'52.29"E.

Which topo maps do you have? Mine are next to useless...
Cheers,
�Mark



On 24/04/2013 12:40 AM, Sam Laybutt wrote:
Brilliant - thanks Mark! Really does give you a sense of the place. Such remote and beautifully atmospheric country.�


In the youtube via you linked to, the narrator mentions a railway tunnel a few times. Where along the line was this?



Also, was the mine located to the west of the town? The old townsite is easy enough to find on the topo maps but the mine ruins are not marked.�


To: LRRSA@...
From: trainbrain@...
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 23:28:00 +1000
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Magnet Town film and adventure

�
Hi Sam, all,
�I have uploaded a small selection to this photobucket folder:
http://s418.photobucket.com/user/Burra2a/library/Magnet
The photos have brief captions.
The videos are too big to upload and I don't have any editing software to remove the boring commentary anyway.
Cheers,
�Mark K




On 23/04/2013 6:09 PM, Sam Laybutt wrote:
I am most definitely interested in seeing a selection of your images, Mark! :)

Keen to watch that youtube vid when I get home from work too...

Sam


To: LRRSA@...
From: trainbrain@...
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:29:38 +1000
Subject: [LRRSA] Magnet Town film and adventure

�
Hi all,
Mark Fry was kind enough to pass on a copy of this film to me at the
Aus Narrow Gauge Convention over Easter, and I have since found it has
already been uploaded to Youtube:
http://youtu.be/ADYFY6xisAY

I spent a couple of days towards the middle of March exploring Magnet
and drove whilst videoing the track bed from Waratah to the mine, not
really a viable track to drive unless you don't mind scratching your 4WD
due to overgrowth.
Gee that track is dark and dank until it levels with the Arthur River.
Historic photos show the hillsides bare of trees, the regrowth has
closed in successfully, so it is hard to pick out locations where photos
of the train was taken.
The valley where the mine and town was is thoroughly revegetated
predominately with Celery Top Pine too.
There are still some fantastic remains at the mine site, uprights from
the concentrating shed, brick foundations from the crusher, concrete
foundations from the hydro powerhouse and auxilliary power plant, a
small stamp mill below the town area, the main adit and the later lower
level trial adit, a pair of boots by the site of a workman's hut,
bottles and bricks at the site of the shops, footbridge abutments,
embankments, the enormous overburden/spoil banks that dominate
everything, rusty mine skips, a vertical boiler and lengths of rail 'up
the gully'. There is still most of a bridge over the Arthur River and of
course most of the earthworks are still more or less intact. I took
around 20 gig of digital media of the line and mine site! I can upload
to photobucket a selection of photos if anyone is interested. A photo of
my camp with the concentrating mill in the background can be seen here:
http://s418.photobucket.com/user/Burra2a/media/On-The-Road/20130320_092439a_zpsb2eb5c28.jpg.html

Now I have grandiose plans to model the Magnet Tram and mine/town far
more accurately than I had previously intended.
Regards,
Mark K
who was going to rejoin the LRRSA at the ANGC but there wasn't a stand :(





Re: Magnet Town film and adventure

Anthony Coen <ajcoen@...>
 

The tunnel referred to is the mine adit. At the end of the line, a trailing siding ran up and around the side of the hill to the mine, which was located on the western end of the town. The formation is very good to drive along and Magnet is a great place to camp!

 

Cheers,

 

            Tony Coen.

 


From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...] On Behalf Of Sam Laybutt
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 12:41 AM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] Magnet Town film and adventure

 

 

Brilliant - thanks Mark! Really does give you a sense of the place. Such remote and beautifully atmospheric country. 


In the youtube via you linked to, the narrator mentions a railway tunnel a few times. Where along the line was this?



Also, was the mine located to the west of the town? The old townsite is easy enough to find on the topo maps but the mine ruins are not marked. 


To: LRRSA@...
From: trainbrain@...
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 23:28:00 +1000
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Magnet Town film and adventure

 

Hi Sam, all,
 I have uploaded a small selection to this photobucket folder:
http://s418.photobucket.com/user/Burra2a/library/Magnet
The photos have brief captions.
The videos are too big to upload and I don't have any editing software to remove the boring commentary anyway.
Cheers,
 Mark K



On 23/04/2013 6:09 PM, Sam Laybutt wrote:

I am most definitely interested in seeing a selection of your images, Mark! :)

 

Keen to watch that youtube vid when I get home from work too...


Sam


To: LRRSA@...
From: trainbrain@...
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:29:38 +1000
Subject: [LRRSA] Magnet Town film and adventure

 

Hi all,
Mark Fry was kind enough to pass on a copy of this film to me at the
Aus Narrow Gauge Convention over Easter, and I have since found it has
already been uploaded to Youtube:
http://youtu.be/ADYFY6xisAY

I spent a couple of days towards the middle of March exploring Magnet
and drove whilst videoing the track bed from Waratah to the mine, not
really a viable track to drive unless you don't mind scratching your 4WD
due to overgrowth.
Gee that track is dark and dank until it levels with the Arthur River.
Historic photos show the hillsides bare of trees, the regrowth has
closed in successfully, so it is hard to pick out locations where photos
of the train was taken.
The valley where the mine and town was is thoroughly revegetated
predominately with Celery Top Pine too.
There are still some fantastic remains at the mine site, uprights from
the concentrating shed, brick foundations from the crusher, concrete
foundations from the hydro powerhouse and auxilliary power plant, a
small stamp mill below the town area, the main adit and the later lower
level trial adit, a pair of boots by the site of a workman's hut,
bottles and bricks at the site of the shops, footbridge abutments,
embankments, the enormous overburden/spoil banks that dominate
everything, rusty mine skips, a vertical boiler and lengths of rail 'up
the gully'. There is still most of a bridge over the Arthur River and of
course most of the earthworks are still more or less intact. I took
around 20 gig of digital media of the line and mine site! I can upload
to photobucket a selection of photos if anyone is interested. A photo of
my camp with the concentrating mill in the background can be seen here:
http://s418.photobucket.com/user/Burra2a/media/On-The-Road/20130320_092439a_zpsb2eb5c28.jpg.html

Now I have grandiose plans to model the Magnet Tram and mine/town far
more accurately than I had previously intended.
Regards,
Mark K
who was going to rejoin the LRRSA at the ANGC but there wasn't a stand :(

 


Re: Magnet Town film and adventure

rthorne475
 

For a detailed map see page 173 of Lou Rae's 'A History Of Railways And Tramways On Tasmania's West Coast' 2nd Edition (self-published 1984).

Richard Horne


From: Sam Laybutt
To: "LRRSA@..."
Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013, 15:40
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] Magnet Town film and adventure

 
Brilliant - thanks Mark! Really does give you a sense of the place. Such remote and beautifully atmospheric country. 


In the youtube via you linked to, the narrator mentions a railway tunnel a few times. Where along the line was this?



Also, was the mine located to the west of the town? The old townsite is easy enough to find on the topo maps but the mine ruins are not marked. 


To: LRRSA@...
From: trainbrain@...
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 23:28:00 +1000
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Magnet Town film and adventure

 
Hi Sam, all,
 I have uploaded a small selection to this photobucket folder:
http://s418.photobucket.com/user/Burra2a/library/Magnet
The photos have brief captions.
The videos are too big to upload and I don't have any editing software to remove the boring commentary anyway.
Cheers,
 Mark K




On 23/04/2013 6:09 PM, Sam Laybutt wrote:
I am most definitely interested in seeing a selection of your images, Mark! :)

Keen to watch that youtube vid when I get home from work too...

Sam


To: LRRSA@...
From: trainbrain@...
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:29:38 +1000
Subject: [LRRSA] Magnet Town film and adventure

 
Hi all,
Mark Fry was kind enough to pass on a copy of this film to me at the
Aus Narrow Gauge Convention over Easter, and I have since found it has
already been uploaded to Youtube:
http://youtu.be/ADYFY6xisAY

I spent a couple of days towards the middle of March exploring Magnet
and drove whilst videoing the track bed from Waratah to the mine, not
really a viable track to drive unless you don't mind scratching your 4WD
due to overgrowth.
Gee that track is dark and dank until it levels with the Arthur River.
Historic photos show the hillsides bare of trees, the regrowth has
closed in successfully, so it is hard to pick out locations where photos
of the train was taken.
The valley where the mine and town was is thoroughly revegetated
predominately with Celery Top Pine too.
There are still some fantastic remains at the mine site, uprights from
the concentrating shed, brick foundations from the crusher, concrete
foundations from the hydro powerhouse and auxilliary power plant, a
small stamp mill below the town area, the main adit and the later lower
level trial adit, a pair of boots by the site of a workman's hut,
bottles and bricks at the site of the shops, footbridge abutments,
embankments, the enormous overburden/spoil banks that dominate
everything, rusty mine skips, a vertical boiler and lengths of rail 'up
the gully'. There is still most of a bridge over the Arthur River and of
course most of the earthworks are still more or less intact. I took
around 20 gig of digital media of the line and mine site! I can upload
to photobucket a selection of photos if anyone is interested. A photo of
my camp with the concentrating mill in the background can be seen here:
http://s418.photobucket.com/user/Burra2a/media/On-The-Road/20130320_092439a_zpsb2eb5c28.jpg.html

Now I have grandiose plans to model the Magnet Tram and mine/town far
more accurately than I had previously intended.
Regards,
Mark K
who was going to rejoin the LRRSA at the ANGC but there wasn't a stand :(






Re: Magnet Town film and adventure

Sam Laybutt
 

Brilliant - thanks Mark! Really does give you a sense of the place. Such remote and beautifully atmospheric country. 


In the youtube via you linked to, the narrator mentions a railway tunnel a few times. Where along the line was this?



Also, was the mine located to the west of the town? The old townsite is easy enough to find on the topo maps but the mine ruins are not marked. 


To: LRRSA@...
From: trainbrain@...
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 23:28:00 +1000
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Magnet Town film and adventure

 
Hi Sam, all,
 I have uploaded a small selection to this photobucket folder:
http://s418.photobucket.com/user/Burra2a/library/Magnet
The photos have brief captions.
The videos are too big to upload and I don't have any editing software to remove the boring commentary anyway.
Cheers,
 Mark K




On 23/04/2013 6:09 PM, Sam Laybutt wrote:
I am most definitely interested in seeing a selection of your images, Mark! :)

Keen to watch that youtube vid when I get home from work too...

Sam


To: LRRSA@...
From: trainbrain@...
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:29:38 +1000
Subject: [LRRSA] Magnet Town film and adventure

 
Hi all,
Mark Fry was kind enough to pass on a copy of this film to me at the
Aus Narrow Gauge Convention over Easter, and I have since found it has
already been uploaded to Youtube:
http://youtu.be/ADYFY6xisAY

I spent a couple of days towards the middle of March exploring Magnet
and drove whilst videoing the track bed from Waratah to the mine, not
really a viable track to drive unless you don't mind scratching your 4WD
due to overgrowth.
Gee that track is dark and dank until it levels with the Arthur River.
Historic photos show the hillsides bare of trees, the regrowth has
closed in successfully, so it is hard to pick out locations where photos
of the train was taken.
The valley where the mine and town was is thoroughly revegetated
predominately with Celery Top Pine too.
There are still some fantastic remains at the mine site, uprights from
the concentrating shed, brick foundations from the crusher, concrete
foundations from the hydro powerhouse and auxilliary power plant, a
small stamp mill below the town area, the main adit and the later lower
level trial adit, a pair of boots by the site of a workman's hut,
bottles and bricks at the site of the shops, footbridge abutments,
embankments, the enormous overburden/spoil banks that dominate
everything, rusty mine skips, a vertical boiler and lengths of rail 'up
the gully'. There is still most of a bridge over the Arthur River and of
course most of the earthworks are still more or less intact. I took
around 20 gig of digital media of the line and mine site! I can upload
to photobucket a selection of photos if anyone is interested. A photo of
my camp with the concentrating mill in the background can be seen here:
http://s418.photobucket.com/user/Burra2a/media/On-The-Road/20130320_092439a_zpsb2eb5c28.jpg.html

Now I have grandiose plans to model the Magnet Tram and mine/town far
more accurately than I had previously intended.
Regards,
Mark K
who was going to rejoin the LRRSA at the ANGC but there wasn't a stand :(



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