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Re: Attachments -

Frank Stamford
 

Hello Brad,

Thanks very much for coming in on this discussion.

So far nobody in the group has suggested a good reason why we should
continue to ban attachments.

Since you have had ten years of experience of groups which allow
attachments and have not had any problems with them, I would suggest you
now allow attachments on the LRRSA group.

Regards,

Frank

On 13/04/2012 9:35 AM, moretonshay wrote:

Hi everyone,
Firstly, in answer to Frank's enquiry, yes they can be reset.
I have numerous groups, some which allow attachments and some that
don't. In the ones that do, I have never had a problem in the over 10
years I have been doing it.
When setting up this LRRSA group I followed the wishes of the LRRSA in
all things initially said and done. If they feel than the changes to
the way Yahoogroups operates makes attachments a worthwhile option, I
shall be able to make the change swiftly.
Certainly, at least on my Philippine Railways group, the addition of
attachments has been a great thing for many years.

Brad

--- In LRRSA@... <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>,
Frank Stamford <frank.stamford@...> wrote:

Hello all,

Its probably my fault that attachments are not allowed. When this Yahoo
group was set up six years ago I suggested attachments should be turned
off as the conventional wisdom at the time was that they were
potentially dangerous, and most other groups at the time had them
turned
off. At that time it seemed a sensible precaution.

Since then Yahoo Groups seems to have tightened their controls on
attachments, and I cannot see any reason why we should still not
allow them.

However whether that setting can be changed retrospectively I do not
know.

Regards,

Frank






On 13/04/2012 2:34 AM, David Halfpenny (y) wrote:


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From: "John Browning" <ceo8@... <mailto:ceo8%40iinet.net.au>>
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:01 AM
To: <LRRSA@... <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>
<mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>>
Subject: [LRRSA] Attachments - Re: Tramway at Summer Day Valley
quarry? -
Grampians, VIC

We have 'attachments' turned off on this group in an attempt to
protect
your
computer from nasty stuff that may be embedded in attached files.
That's a good reason, with a plus that nobody is able to post in
irritating
Rich Text.

If anyone's now worried about their other groups, these days Yahoo
only
permit a very narrow range of attachment types, none of which can
harbour
malice without an extraordinary amount of skill. In other words
ordinary
members can't hurt your computer sending ordinary material.

David 1/2d






Re: Attachments -

Brian <rallim56@...>
 

Frank,
Just remember that any attachments sent by members do not go into the "Photos" section, Yahoo places them into the "Attachments" folder, from there one of the moderators would have to move them into that members photos folder, or just leave them in the photo section. I am not sure whether there is a number of different options on how attachments are sent, but on another group I am on there seems to be a couple of ways they come through, some come with the email and show as small thumbnails, while other attachments appear with the word "Attachment" as a hyper link at the top of the email and another way is the word "Attachment" at the top, but you have to scroll down to a hyper link which takes you to the folder in the Attachment section, each time an attachment is sent by anyone Yahoo creates a new folder, so if you sent 3 emails with 3 attachments the photos would appear in 3 different folders.
Brian
Qld. Aust.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Stamford" <frank.stamford@...>
To: <LRRSA@...>
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Attachments -


Hello all,

Its probably my fault that attachments are not allowed. When this Yahoo
group was set up six years ago I suggested attachments should be turned
off as the conventional wisdom at the time was that they were
potentially dangerous, and most other groups at the time had them turned
off. At that time it seemed a sensible precaution.

Since then Yahoo Groups seems to have tightened their controls on
attachments, and I cannot see any reason why we should still not allow them.

However whether that setting can be changed retrospectively I do not know.

Regards,

Frank






On 13/04/2012 2:34 AM, David Halfpenny (y) wrote:


--------------------------------------------------
From: "John Browning" <ceo8@... <mailto:ceo8%40iinet.net.au>>
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:01 AM
To: <LRRSA@... <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>>
Subject: [LRRSA] Attachments - Re: Tramway at Summer Day Valley quarry? -
Grampians, VIC

We have 'attachments' turned off on this group in an attempt to protect
your
computer from nasty stuff that may be embedded in attached files.
That's a good reason, with a plus that nobody is able to post in
irritating
Rich Text.

If anyone's now worried about their other groups, these days Yahoo only
permit a very narrow range of attachment types, none of which can harbour
malice without an extraordinary amount of skill. In other words ordinary
members can't hurt your computer sending ordinary material.

David 1/2d







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Re: Tramway at Summer Day Valley quarry? - Grampians, VIC

Peter Evans
 

There was a quarry at Mt Zero operated by the State Rivers and Water Supply Commission c1915-1928 to provide beaching stone for the Pine Lake and Taylors Lake dams to the north. When visited by the LRRSA Grampians tour in September 1988, remains included some light rails and, just below the quarry outlet road leading north, a portable boiler with a tapered barrel similar to those once used to power drilling rigs. The tramway followed a road leading north from the quarry and, on the right hand side a few kilometres along, was a V-skip body used as a feed trough in the adjacent paddock. Little else remains but some earthworks, but we did find a fishplate at one of the dams.

The tramway is covered in LR 21 page 21 which should be available for download from the LRRSA shop.

Cheers,
PeterE.

--- In LRRSA@..., "Trevor Staats" <steamfreak@...> wrote:

Hi again,
Sorry - didn't realise this group had attachments turned off...

You can view the image here:

http://pics.steamfreak.com/albums/misc/summerdayvalley.jpg

Cheers,
Trevor.

-----Original Message-----
From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...] On Behalf
Of Trevor Staats
Sent: Wednesday, 11 April 2012 10:20 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: [LRRSA] Tramway at Summer Day Valley quarry? - Grampians, VIC

Hi all,
I was rock climbing at the Grampians over Easter, in the Mt.
Stapylton/Summer Day Valley area. There is an old quarry just near Summer
Day Valley with a pair of railway/tramway tracks poking out of the ground
(attached). Just wondering if there was actually a tramway there, or if
these rails were part of something else. I did come across a couple of
loose lengths of similar sized rail in fairly thick bush nearby, as I cut
through the bush heading for the climbing area. I Googled for any
references to this but only came up with Heatherlie Quarry references.

Summer Day Valley is a recent name I think - might actually be called
something to do with Mt. Zero or Flat Rock?

The quarry is here: http://g.co/maps/tx292 In the satellite view, it is
the mostly clear area in the centre of the map.

Thanks,
Trevor.



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Java sugar lines tour

Roderick Smith
 

This has been mentioned before; now both stages are confirmed.
* Pretour, diesel lines. These provide transfer shunting and field work, and is the week for which I have booked. The locos include European types not seen in Australia.
* Main tour, steam lines. These provide mainly transfer shunting, with very little field work. The locos include many European types, with lots of technical variation; the mills have lots of vintage steam machinery (mainly from Netherlands). This replicates the tour which John B and I enjoyed in 2008.

Rob Dickenson no longer runs Java tours. Instead of continuing as sole organiser, former deputy leader John Raby has teamed with the well-respected Germany-based FarRail (run by Bernd Seiler).
For Australians, the tour will complement the Australian/Fiji sugar experience, from which steam vanished years ago. Airfares are cheap, and flights are short. Australians are far more familiar with the climate than Europeans are. The country is scenic; people are friendly; the restaurants chosen will provide good authentic food ( have fond memories of plentiful affordable crab). The organisers ensure that beer is available readily. Because of the need to use midibuses to access a lot of mill roads, the tours are compact and intimate.

See www.FarRail.com, which has details for both portions, and tour reports from earlier Java jaunts.

Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor


Re: Attachments -

moretonshay <alcogoodwin@...>
 

Hi everyone,
Firstly, in answer to Frank's enquiry, yes they can be reset.
I have numerous groups, some which allow attachments and some that don't. In the ones that do, I have never had a problem in the over 10 years I have been doing it.
When setting up this LRRSA group I followed the wishes of the LRRSA in all things initially said and done. If they feel than the changes to the way Yahoogroups operates makes attachments a worthwhile option, I shall be able to make the change swiftly.
Certainly, at least on my Philippine Railways group, the addition of attachments has been a great thing for many years.

Brad

--- In LRRSA@..., Frank Stamford <frank.stamford@...> wrote:

Hello all,

Its probably my fault that attachments are not allowed. When this Yahoo
group was set up six years ago I suggested attachments should be turned
off as the conventional wisdom at the time was that they were
potentially dangerous, and most other groups at the time had them turned
off. At that time it seemed a sensible precaution.

Since then Yahoo Groups seems to have tightened their controls on
attachments, and I cannot see any reason why we should still not allow them.

However whether that setting can be changed retrospectively I do not know.

Regards,

Frank






On 13/04/2012 2:34 AM, David Halfpenny (y) wrote:


--------------------------------------------------
From: "John Browning" <ceo8@... <mailto:ceo8%40iinet.net.au>>
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:01 AM
To: <LRRSA@... <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>>
Subject: [LRRSA] Attachments - Re: Tramway at Summer Day Valley quarry? -
Grampians, VIC

We have 'attachments' turned off on this group in an attempt to protect
your
computer from nasty stuff that may be embedded in attached files.
That's a good reason, with a plus that nobody is able to post in
irritating
Rich Text.

If anyone's now worried about their other groups, these days Yahoo only
permit a very narrow range of attachment types, none of which can harbour
malice without an extraordinary amount of skill. In other words ordinary
members can't hurt your computer sending ordinary material.

David 1/2d




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: Attachments -

Frank Stamford
 

Hello all,

Its probably my fault that attachments are not allowed. When this Yahoo
group was set up six years ago I suggested attachments should be turned
off as the conventional wisdom at the time was that they were
potentially dangerous, and most other groups at the time had them turned
off. At that time it seemed a sensible precaution.

Since then Yahoo Groups seems to have tightened their controls on
attachments, and I cannot see any reason why we should still not allow them.

However whether that setting can be changed retrospectively I do not know.

Regards,

Frank

On 13/04/2012 2:34 AM, David Halfpenny (y) wrote:


--------------------------------------------------
From: "John Browning" <ceo8@... <mailto:ceo8%40iinet.net.au>>
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:01 AM
To: <LRRSA@... <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>>
Subject: [LRRSA] Attachments - Re: Tramway at Summer Day Valley quarry? -
Grampians, VIC

We have 'attachments' turned off on this group in an attempt to protect
your
computer from nasty stuff that may be embedded in attached files.
That's a good reason, with a plus that nobody is able to post in
irritating
Rich Text.

If anyone's now worried about their other groups, these days Yahoo only
permit a very narrow range of attachment types, none of which can harbour
malice without an extraordinary amount of skill. In other words ordinary
members can't hurt your computer sending ordinary material.

David 1/2d



1301 - was -Re: New book: "Riches beneath the Flat"; "Little Yarra" coffee mugs;

Alf Aiken
 

Thank you for your very detailed reply Hunslet. As you know I am a member of the Yass Railway Heritage Centre & I was interested in the 13 class because of their operation on the Yass Tramway.

Alf


Re: Attachments - Re: Tramway at Summer Day Valley quarry? - Grampians, VIC

David
 

--------------------------------------------------
From: "John Browning" <ceo8@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:01 AM
To: <LRRSA@...>
Subject: [LRRSA] Attachments - Re: Tramway at Summer Day Valley quarry? - Grampians, VIC

We have 'attachments' turned off on this group in an attempt to protect your
computer from nasty stuff that may be embedded in attached files.
That's a good reason, with a plus that nobody is able to post in irritating Rich Text.

If anyone's now worried about their other groups, these days Yahoo only permit a very narrow range of attachment types, none of which can harbour malice without an extraordinary amount of skill. In other words ordinary members can't hurt your computer sending ordinary material.

David 1/2d


Attachments - Re: Tramway at Summer Day Valley quarry? - Grampians, VIC

John Browning
 

Thanks Trevor
I guess we could look at that option.
Best wishes
John


Re: Attachments - Re: Tramway at Summer Day Valley quarry? - Grampians, VIC

Eddie Oliver <eoliver@...>
 

On 12/04/2012 9:47 PM, Chris Stratton wrote:
I'm on another group which has 776 members and has e-mail attachments turned
on and we don't have any problems.

I agree. How are attachments to yahoo group emails any more dangerous than the myriads of attachments that float around any other sort of email?


Re: Attachments - Re: Tramway at Summer Day Valley quarry? - Grampians, VIC

Chris Stratton
 

I'm on another group which has 776 members and has e-mail attachments turned
on and we don't have any problems.

Regards,
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...] On Behalf
Of Trevor Staats
Sent: Thursday, 12 April 2012 9:38 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: RE: [LRRSA] Attachments - Re: Tramway at Summer Day Valley quarry?
- Grampians, VIC

Hi John,
No worries - yep I've had a look through the group file/photo areas -
thanks! I run a South African Railways list - we switched on attachments
not that long ago - it has been very beneficial to the group. The
attachments are stripped off by Yahoo and placed automatically in the group
photo/file area, then thumbnailed/hyperlinked into the message. It was of
particular use to that list, as a large number of members didn't have a
Yahoo account so could not access the group areas on Yahoo, but with the
attachment system they were able to. We don't allow direct attachments to
be sent in emails - yes, that would open up the members to all sorts of
nasties!

Cheers,
Trevor.

-----Original Message-----
From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...] On Behalf
Of John Browning
Sent: Thursday, 12 April 2012 8:02 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: [LRRSA] Attachments - Re: Tramway at Summer Day Valley quarry? -
Grampians, VIC

We have 'attachments' turned off on this group in an attempt to protect your
computer from nasty stuff that may be embedded in attached files.
Members can always post their attachments to the 'photos' or 'files' section
through the Group webpage and direct readers to them in their messages.
http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/LRRSA/
There's lots of interesting stuff there if you haven't looked.
John

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LRRSA, but the contents of postings are those of their authors and opinions
expressed do not necessarily conform with those of any LRRSA member nor of
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LRRSA web-site www.lrrsa.org.au

This group is for members who share common interests with the members of the
LRRSA, but the contents of postings are those of their authors and opinions
expressed do not necessarily conform with those of any LRRSA member nor of
the LRRSA Council of Management"
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Re: Attachments - Re: Tramway at Summer Day Valley quarry? - Grampians, VIC

Trevor Staats <steamfreak@...>
 

Hi John,
No worries - yep I've had a look through the group file/photo areas -
thanks! I run a South African Railways list - we switched on attachments
not that long ago - it has been very beneficial to the group. The
attachments are stripped off by Yahoo and placed automatically in the group
photo/file area, then thumbnailed/hyperlinked into the message. It was of
particular use to that list, as a large number of members didn't have a
Yahoo account so could not access the group areas on Yahoo, but with the
attachment system they were able to. We don't allow direct attachments to
be sent in emails - yes, that would open up the members to all sorts of
nasties!

Cheers,
Trevor.

-----Original Message-----
From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...] On Behalf
Of John Browning
Sent: Thursday, 12 April 2012 8:02 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: [LRRSA] Attachments - Re: Tramway at Summer Day Valley quarry? -
Grampians, VIC

We have 'attachments' turned off on this group in an attempt to protect your
computer from nasty stuff that may be embedded in attached files.
Members can always post their attachments to the 'photos' or 'files' section
through the Group webpage and direct readers to them in their messages.
http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/LRRSA/
There's lots of interesting stuff there if you haven't looked.
John

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LRRSA web-site www.lrrsa.org.au

This group is for members who share common interests with the members of the
LRRSA, but the contents of postings are those of their authors and opinions
expressed do not necessarily conform with those of any LRRSA member nor of
the LRRSA Council of Management"
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Attachments - Re: Tramway at Summer Day Valley quarry? - Grampians, VIC

John Browning
 

We have 'attachments' turned off on this group in an attempt to protect your
computer from nasty stuff that may be embedded in attached files.



Members can always post their attachments to the 'photos' or 'files' section
through the Group webpage and direct readers to them in their messages.



http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/LRRSA/



There's lots of interesting stuff there if you haven't looked.



John


Re: Perry 3' and 3'6" Locomotives

David Price
 

Hi Frank,

many thanks - have purchased Issue 23 (and some others) and downloaded.  Between this and John's email I am starting to build a bigger picture about the two Perry locomotives we have at the Bellarine Railway.

NB: Light Railways is probably my favourite read of all the publications I subscribe to (and I am a member).



Regards,

 
David Price


________________________________
From: Frank Stamford <frank.stamford@...>
To: LRRSA@...
Sent: Wednesday, 11 April 2012 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Perry 3' and 3'6" Locomotives


 
On 11/04/2012 9:24 PM, John Browning wrote:

An early copy of “Light Railways” (No.23) had some more details of the
Hume Weir project and may be worth hunting down (for example at the
State Library).
It is available as a pdf download at the LRRSA Online Shop in the "Light
Railways magazine" category.

Regards,

Frank

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: Perry 3' and 3'6" Locomotives

David Price
 

Hi John,

many thanks for the information - I do still wonder which Perry it may be in the photo I have posted under the Hume Dam folder on the LRRSA Yahoo Groups site (as it clearly is numbered 5on the side of the cab)?  The photo in Edition 23 of Light Railways shows another Perry numbered 25 on a cart - with similar sand dome between the steam dome and the cab.

Number 11 from the Cement Works (#267) had square sand boxes mounted on the front and rear of each side tank - a Perry design as shown on construction drawings.


Klondyke is definitely the locomotive that was originally 3'0" as one can see where the joggle in the frames has been straightened in converting to 3'6" - question still remains whether the 0-4-2 conversion was done firstly to improve riding (as one source suggests) or jointly to support the oil burning conversion (due to the weight Klondyke now carries over the trailing truck I would have thought the latter).

As an aside when we pulled the trailing truck out last year the axle appeared to have been fabricated by forging components together - possibly from a 2'0" axle with extensions forged on.  Crack testing revealed no faults where the apparent forgings were done.

Your information (and Light Railways #23) has confirmed that the other photo I had posted is in fact a Vulcan - I had thought initially it was a Davenport as, in my view, Vulcan products tend to be a little less elegant in their proportions (ie: Cement Works Numbers 4 & 5 of 1916) - but very tough and practical in operation!


Regards,

 
David Price


________________________________
From: John Browning <ceo8@...>
To: LRRSA@...
Sent: Wednesday, 11 April 2012 9:24 PM
Subject: [LRRSA] Perry 3' and 3'6" Locomotives


 
Dear David

A few belated comments on your original request that may be of value to you:

The Perry maker’s list (as published by LRRSA) shows the following contractor’s locomotives:

· 265 of 1925, 266 to 269 of 1926 and 270 of 1927 all 3ft 6in gauge for State Rivers & Water Supply Commission of Victoria, Hume Reservoir construction.

· 271 of 1927 3ft gauge for State Rivers & Water Supply Commission of Victoria, Bethanga Bridge construction.

· 272 to 280 of 1928 all 3ft 6in gauge for Melbourne & Metropolitan Board of Works, Silvan Dam construction.

Perry 271 was converted to 3ft 6in gauge for use on the Hume Reservoir project following the construction of the Bethanga Bridge.

3ft gauge was a common gauge used on construction projects, and the NSW PWD had 3ft gauge equipment that may have been used on the job, which was a joint one between the Victorian and NSW governments. The NSW PWD also had the following 3ft gauge locomotives working on their Hume Weir construction works:

· Vulcan Iron Works 3055 of 1920 0-4-0ST – NSW PWD, Hume Weir (67)

sold for scrap 1936

· Vulcan Iron Works 3232 of 1922 0-4-0ST - NSW PWD, Hume Weir (68)

sold for scrap 1936

· Fowler 16130 of 1924 0‑4‑0T - NSW PWD, Hume Weir (70)

sold for scrap 1936

· Barclay 1900 of 1927 0-4-0T - NSW PWD, Hume Weir (74)

Johnston’s Foundry, South Melbourne, Vic (for scrap), 1938

An early copy of “Light Railways” (No.23) had some more details of the Hume Weir project and may be worth hunting down (for example at the State Library).

My understanding is that the Pioneer Mill locomotives were converted to 0-4-2T to provide better riding characteristics before they were converted to oil firing.

I provide below brief detail of my notes of the disposal of the locomotives:

· Perry 265 - SR&WSC, Hume Weir (7)

Mt.Morgan Ltd., Qld, 1939 (No.1); out of use, 1946; Pioneer Sugar Mills Ltd., Pioneer Mill, Brandon, Qld, 1949 (KILRIE); rebuilt as 0-4-2T; converted to oil burning, 1959; Australian Narrow Gauge Railway Museum Society, Brisbane, Qld., 1980; leased to Pioneer Steam Railway Co-operative, Box Flat, Qld, 1980; Pioneer Steam Railway Co-operative, Box Flat, Qld, 2008.

· Perry 266 – SR&WSC, Hume Weir (21)

Bingle - McDavitt Machinery Co., Melbourne, 1939; State Electricity Commission of Victoria, Yallourn North, 1941 (66); out of use, 1942; offered for sale, July 1946; Australian Portland Cement Ltd., Fyansford, Vic., 1947 (10); scrapped

· Perry 267 – SR&WSC, Hume Weir

Bingle - McDavitt Machinery Co., Melbourne, 1939; State Electricity Commission of Victoria, Yallourn North, 1941 (67); out of use, 1942; offered for sale, July 1946; Australian Portland Cement Ltd., Fyansford, Vic., 1947 (11); out of use 1966; Puffing Billy Preservation Society, Menzies Creek Museum, Vic., 1968; Geelong Steam Preservation Society, Bellarine Peninsula Railway, Vic, 2009

· Perry 268 – SR&WSC, Hume Weir

Bingle - McDavitt Machinery Co., Melbourne, 1939; Evans Deakin Ltd., Rocklea, Qld., 1940 (LM2); out of use 1965; scrapped.

· Perry 269 – SR&WSC, Hume Weir

Bingle - McDavitt Machinery Co., Melbourne; Mt.Morgan Mines Ltd., Qld, 1936 (No.4); fitted with new Burns & Twigg boiler, 1936; Pioneer Sugar Mills Ltd., Pioneer Mill, Brandon, Qld., 1949 (PIONEER No.2 ‘Taipan'); rebuilt as 0-4-2T; converted to oil burner, 1960; out of use 1963; scrapped 1966.

· Perry 270 – SR&WSC, Hume Weir

Bingle - McDavitt Machinery Co., Melbourne, 1939; Evans Deakin Ltd., Rocklea, Qld., 1940 (LM1); out of use 1965; scrapped

· Perry 271 – SR&WSC, Bethanga Bridge (3ft gauge)

SR&WSC, Hume Weir, 1928 (converted to 3ft 6in gauge); Bingle - McDavitt Machinery Co., Melbourne, 1939; Pioneer Sugar Mills Ltd., Pioneer Mill, Brandon, Qld., 1940 (KLONDYKE No.2); rebuilt as 0-4-2T; converted to oil burner, 1962; out of use 1966; Geelong Steam Preservation Society, Belmont Common, Vic., 1971; Geelong Steam Preservation Society, Bellarine Peninsula Railway, Vic., 1983; leased to Mt Lyell Abt Wilderness Railway, Queenstown, Tas, 2000; returned 2001

· Perry 272 – M&MBW, Silvan Dam Construction (No.1)

out of use 1932; offered for sale at auction, December 1935; sold for scrap 1955/6

· Perry 273 – M&MBW, Silvan Dam Construction (No.2)

out of use 1932; offered for sale at auction, December 1935; sold for scrap 1955/6

· Perry 274 - M&MBW, Silvan Dam Construction (No.3)

out of use 1932; offered for sale at auction, December 1935; sold for scrap 1955/6

· Perry 275 - M&MBW, Silvan Dam Construction (No.4)

offered for sale at auction, December 1935; State Electricity Commission of Victoria, Yallourn North, 1942 (75); out of use 1942; offered for sale, July 1946; scrapped 1951

· Perry 276 - M&MBW, Silvan Dam Construction (No.5)

offered for sale at auction, December 1935; State Electricity Commission of Victoria, Yallourn North, 1942 (76); out of use 1942; offered for sale, July 1946; scrapped 1951

· Perry 277 - M&MBW, Silvan Dam Construction (No.6)

out of use 1932; offered for sale at auction, December 1935; State Electricity Commission of Victoria, Yallourn North, 1942 (77); out of use 1942; offered for sale, July 1946; scrapped 1951

· Perry 278 - M&MBW, Silvan Dam Construction (No.7)

out of use 1932; offered for sale at auction, December 1935; State Electricity Commission of Victoria, Yallourn North, 1942 (78); out of use 1942; offered for sale, July 1946; scrapped 1951

· Perry 279 - M&MBW, Silvan Dam Construction (No.8)

out of use 1932; offered for sale at auction, December 1935; sold for scrap 1955/6

· Perry 280 - M&MBW, Silvan Dam Construction (No.9)

out of use 1932; offered for sale at auction, December 1935; sold for scrap 1955/6

The Perry 0-4-0T locomotive design had originated with a consulting engineer named Leslie. The first locomotive to his design had been built for the SR&WSC for use at Hume Weir in 1923 by Alfred T Harman of Port Melbourne. It could be differentiated from the Perry locomotives by the round edge on its side tank tops.

Its history is supposedly as follows:

· offered for sale at disposal auction by JH Curnow & Son, 1936; Bingle - McDavitt Machinery Co., Melbourne, 1939; Tasmanian Hydro-Electric Commission, Clark Dam, 1944; Tasmanian Hydro-Electric Commission, Butler’s gorge; scrapped 1953

These Perry locomotives are really not my speciality so some of this recorded information may not be totally correct. Any comments, additions or corrections would be welcome.

John

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Brisbane LRRSA meeting cancellation tomorrow

John Browning
 

The Light Railways meeting at the Military Jeep Club Building at Rocklea
Showground on Friday 13th April 2012 has had to be cancelled due to a main
power board failure on Wednesday this week. There will be no power for a few
weeks.



The June meeting will go ahead as planned with Col Rough showing his slides.



Can you pass on to any other interested parties please.



Sorry for the inconvenience and late notice beyond our control.



Bob Gough

Convenor

South East Queensland Light Railways


Re: Tramway at Summer Day Valley quarry? - Grampians, VIC

Trevor Staats <steamfreak@...>
 

Hi again,
Sorry - didn't realise this group had attachments turned off...

You can view the image here:

http://pics.steamfreak.com/albums/misc/summerdayvalley.jpg

Cheers,
Trevor.

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Subject: [LRRSA] Tramway at Summer Day Valley quarry? - Grampians, VIC

Hi all,
I was rock climbing at the Grampians over Easter, in the Mt.
Stapylton/Summer Day Valley area. There is an old quarry just near Summer
Day Valley with a pair of railway/tramway tracks poking out of the ground
(attached). Just wondering if there was actually a tramway there, or if
these rails were part of something else. I did come across a couple of
loose lengths of similar sized rail in fairly thick bush nearby, as I cut
through the bush heading for the climbing area. I Googled for any
references to this but only came up with Heatherlie Quarry references.

Summer Day Valley is a recent name I think - might actually be called
something to do with Mt. Zero or Flat Rock?

The quarry is here: http://g.co/maps/tx292 In the satellite view, it is
the mostly clear area in the centre of the map.

Thanks,
Trevor.







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Tramway at Summer Day Valley quarry? - Grampians, VIC

Trevor Staats <steamfreak@...>
 

Hi all,
I was rock climbing at the Grampians over Easter, in the Mt. Stapylton/Summer Day Valley area. There is an old quarry just near Summer Day Valley with a pair of railway/tramway tracks poking out of the ground (attached). Just wondering if there was actually a tramway there, or if these rails were part of something else. I did come across a couple of loose lengths of similar sized rail in fairly thick bush nearby, as I cut through the bush heading for the climbing area. I Googled for any references to this but only came up with Heatherlie Quarry references.

Summer Day Valley is a recent name I think - might actually be called something to do with Mt. Zero or Flat Rock?

The quarry is here: http://g.co/maps/tx292 In the satellite view, it is the mostly clear area in the centre of the map.

Thanks,
Trevor.


Re: "Ned Kelly" film - Captain's Flat.

Hunslet
 

Re: Captain's Flat.


Posted by: "Chris Stratton" <mailto:gm4201@...?Subject=
Re%3A%20Captain%27s%20Flat%2E>gm4201@...
<http://profiles.yahoo.com/gm4201>gm4201


Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:59 pm (EST)


The train part of the Ned Kelly film with Mick Jagger was filmed over two
weeks in August 1969. 1243 was the loco used, renumbered back to 176 for the
film. The Ned Kelly train was two CW cattle wagons converted to passenger
cars, and two CW cattle wagons. The "passenger cars" were at Thirlmere for
many years before being scrapped.

No - the two "passenger carriages" were not scrapped. They were
purchased by Mario Mencigar of Australian Train Movers and relocated
to his rolling stock storage area for possible re-sale. The
Australian train Movers' web page is at:
http://www.a-tm.com.au/index.html

Hunslet.


Re: Perry 3' and 3'6" Locomotives

Frank Stamford
 

On 11/04/2012 9:24 PM, John Browning wrote:

An early copy of “Light Railways” (No.23) had some more details of the
Hume Weir project and may be worth hunting down (for example at the
State Library).
It is available as a pdf download at the LRRSA Online Shop in the "Light
Railways magazine" category.

Regards,

Frank


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