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Hunslet
 

Posted by: "Eddie Oliver" <mailto:eoliver@...?Subject=
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Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:32 pm (EST)

On 11/04/2012 12:48 PM, Alf wrote:
> Received my copy yesterday& it looks like a very good read. Can
anyone confirm or not if the 13 class that was used in the tour train
was one of those which was based at Goulburn& kept as a spare for
Yass Town working or was it one of the Vintage train locos.
>
did the Vintage Train locos even exist as such in 1962? Various 13
class, eg 1301, 1307, 1308, 1311 were probably still in regular service
then.

The story of the NSWR's Vintage Train is told in its entirety in the
October 1975 issue of the ARHS Bulletin. The first operation of
"The Vintage Train" was on 1/10/1960 to Dunedoo with locomotive 1210
hauling the 1891 State Car AC1 and passenger car HX2.

At the time of the excursion to Captain's Flat, 1301 had been based
at Goulburn as one of two of the class allocated there for working
the Yass Tramway. At the time, it was the oldest locomotive still
in general service on the System. It was utilised to haul the side
excursion from Bungendore to Captain's Flat, with the HX and a CBC,
while 1210 & 1243 proceeded with the remainder of the train to
Queanbeyan for servicing - it was the occasion of the delivery of
1210 to the National Capital Development Commission for static
preservation at Canberra. 1301 was turned on the turntable at
Captain's Flat and on the return to Bungendore, the whole train was
turned via the triangle that had been installed for the turning of
Beyer Garratt locomotives.

With 1210 left at Canberra, 1301 returned to Sydney doubling with
1243. 1301 then became a "full time" Vintage Train locomotive,
particularly for use on suburban runs - one such trip being to
Hurstville with 2-4-0 1033, which "strangely" was extended to
Thirroul as a fan tour once the official duties had been completed at
Hurstville.

After the cessation of the Vintage Train, 1301 continued for a period
as an operational locomotive with the fledgling NSW Rail Transport
Museum - and was the loco used to officially open the Museum at
Enfield in, I think, October 1972.

Regretfully, 1301 is no longer operational.

Hunslet.


Re: Captain's Flat.

Chris Stratton
 

The train part of the Ned Kelly film with Mick Jagger was filmed over two
weeks in August 1969. 1243 was the loco used, renumbered back to 176 for the
film. The Ned Kelly train was two CW cattle wagons converted to passenger
cars, and two CW cattle wagons. The "passenger cars" were at Thirlmere for
many years before being scrapped.

Regards,
Chris

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, 11 April 2012 2:08 PM
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Subject: [LRRSA] Captain's Flat.

My copy turned up yesterday, so a nice pre-dinner read took place.



The film 'Ned Kelly' was filmed in part on the Captain's Flat line. It took
place after the line was officially closed, and the heritage train was used
[I seem to recall].



I've never seen the film, I know it was disaster, and one M. Jagger was the
star. Could the photo of the 13 class being turned have come from that
time?



Dick



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Captain's Flat.

dickwho1
 

My copy turned up yesterday, so a nice pre-dinner read took place.



The film 'Ned Kelly' was filmed in part on the Captain's Flat line. It took
place after the line was officially closed, and the heritage train was used
[I seem to recall].



I've never seen the film, I know it was disaster, and one M. Jagger was the
star. Could the photo of the 13 class being turned have come from that
time?



Dick



Broken Hill


Re: New book: "Riches beneath the Flat"; "Little Yarra" coffee mugs; O&K catalogues

Eddie Oliver <eoliver@...>
 

On 11/04/2012 12:48 PM, Alf wrote:
Received my copy yesterday& it looks like a very good read. Can anyone confirm or not if the 13 class that was used in the tour train was one of those which was based at Goulburn& kept as a spare for Yass Town working or was it one of the Vintage train locos.
did the Vintage Train locos even exist as such in 1962? Various 13 class, eg 1301, 1307, 1308, 1311 were probably still in regular service then.


Perry Number 5?

David Price
 

Back on the 9 March (post #5062) I wrote requesting help from anyone who could supply information on an image of a locomotive used by the NSW Public Works department on the Hume Weir. I've posted another image from the same source (Howard Jones, The Border Mail, Wodonga) - this time of one of the Perry engines being transported on a dray by a team of horses (Hume Weir folder).

If anyone is interested in helping me with some of the questions I raised in my original post I would be most grateful.

Regards,


David Price


Re: New book: "Riches beneath the Flat"; "Little Yarra" coffee mugs; O&K catalogues

Alf Aiken
 

Received my copy yesterday & it looks like a very good read. Can anyone confirm or not if the 13 class that was used in the tour train was one of those which was based at Goulburn & kept as a spare for Yass Town working or was it one of the Vintage train locos.

Alf

--- In LRRSA@..., "Frank" <frank.stamford@...> wrote:

The LRRSA website and Online shop has just been updated with the following:

"Riches beneath the Flat: A history of the Lake George Mine at Captains Flat" by Ross Mainwaring. This new book, published by the LRRSA is now being printed and is expected to be available early in April. It is A4 size, soft cover, with 104 pages. The price will be $29.70, but for orders placed before 15 April a special price of $22.30 applies (or $19.90 if you are an LRRSA member).


Concerns over damaged bridge

Brad Peadon PRHS <alcogoodwin@...>
 

Concerns over damaged bridgeFelix Chaudhary
Tuesday, April 10, 2012MORE than 2000 sugarcane growers from five sectors in Nadi stand to be affected by the flood-damaged rail bridge at Navo.There are serious concerns that growers will face great difficulty in transporting harvested crop to the Lautoka Mill when crushing begins in May this year.The Sugar Cane Growers Council said there were limited access roads to most farms in the affected sectors because of the heavy reliance on rail transport systems."If the bridge is not fixed in time then we will have to look at alternative ways of getting crops out without further burdening growers with additional costs," said SCGC acting chief executive officer Sundresh Chetty. The Fiji Sugar Corporation executive chairman Abdul Khan, however, promised that the bridge would be fixed before the start of the 2012 season scheduled for late May or early June."We will fix that bridge. We have two to three months and the Navo Bridge will take priority over all other
damaged infrastructure repair programs," he said.Damage costs for last week's flooding will be announced once a joint industry assessment is completed later next week.The FSC recorded a total infrastructure damage bill of $13.5 million in the aftermath of the January floods.
   ** RIP: Harry Morgan  "Never insult seven men when all you have is a six shooter" ** Botany Line:  http://botany-line-sig.blogspot.com             Locoshed: http://locoshed.blogspot.com/                   Philippine Railway Historical Society: http://philippine-railways.blogspot.com                  South Maitland and Richmond Vale Railways: http://hunter-coal.blogspot.com/ 

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Re: Sandstone visit

Roderick Smith
 

I was at a 2009 event. It was wonderful, and drew the international brigade together. Much of the technical support was from Reefsteamers (Johannesburg), but one crew member was a regular steam driver from Switzerland. More-recent events have invited heritage-steam drivers from anywhere to front and 'strut their stuff'.
I have placed 17 photos into my album at
<http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/LRRSA/photos/album/341962557/pic/list?mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=141&count=20&dir=asc>
These were made for other groups, but are worth showing here too.

Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor

"John Browning" <ceo8@...> wrote:
...I had an excellent time at the Sandstone Gala in South Africa...
Countries represented included England, Scotland, USA, Germany, France, Belgium, Switzerland, Australia, New Zealand and of course South Africa...http://trainrover.blogspot.com.au


Re: Innisfail Tramway Baguley/RMP locos

John Dennis
 

Yes. DL14 through to DL19 were built by Comeng.

John

On 9 April 2012 12:17, Chris Stratton <gm4201@...> wrote:

**


I want to check the details I have for the Innisfail Tramway Baguley/RMP
locos?

DL12 "Mourilyan" b/n 3390 went to South Johnstone Mill as #10 in 1977,
later
renumbered #30, now at Lake Macquarie Light railway

DL13 "Innisfail" b/n 3391 went to Moreton Mill as "Jamaica (1st)" in ??,
scrapped 1994 with cab to Clive Plater

Were there only these two?

Regards,

CS


Innisfail Tramway Baguley/RMP locos

Chris Stratton
 

I want to check the details I have for the Innisfail Tramway Baguley/RMP
locos?



DL12 "Mourilyan" b/n 3390 went to South Johnstone Mill as #10 in 1977, later
renumbered #30, now at Lake Macquarie Light railway

DL13 "Innisfail" b/n 3391 went to Moreton Mill as "Jamaica (1st)" in ??,
scrapped 1994 with cab to Clive Plater



Were there only these two?



Regards,

CS

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gm4201


Mourilyan and Babinda locos

Chris Stratton
 

When Mourilyan Mill closed in 2006 did all the locos transfer to the South
Johnstone fleet? What date was Babinda closed and their locos transferred to
the South Johnstone fleet?



Regards,

CS

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gm4201


Buderim - Palmwoods Tramway, seeking 1921 film

Phil <chy_gwel_an_meneth@...>
 

A recent issue of the "Nambour Weekly" carries a report that the Buderim - Palmwoods Heritage Tramway Inc are trying to locate a copy of a film, known to have been made of the tramway in 1921.

Anyone with any leads or suggestions is asked to contact the tramway association's President, Helene Cronin on (07) 5476 9509.

To see what the association is up to with their Krauss locomotive partial restoration, readers are referred to
www.qldrailheritage.com/buderim/index.html

Phil Rickard


Re: LRRSA Brisbane Meeting, 13/4/2012, 19:30

John Browning
 

PLEASE NOTE



The Brisbane LRRSA meeting on 13 April will be held at:



The Military Jeep Club of Queensland Club House, Rocklea Showgrounds,
Goburra Street, Rocklea (off Ipswich Road)



not as advertised in the recent automatically-generated reminder.



(There was a hiccup on the part of Brisbane City Council Library Service
that has disrupted the 2012 meeting arrangements.)



John


LRRSA Brisbane Meeting, 13/4/2012, 19:30

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Time:   19:30 - 22:30
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Re: Shay boiler at ILRMS & Busy May

John Garaty
 

Hi Bill,
As I was the member showing Chris around down at the site perhaps I should clarify a few things.

At present there is NO plan to do anything with the A&D Munro Shay boiler any time in the immediate future. The idea of possibly sectioning this boiler was floated by myself as a "hypothetical" use for an unrepairable boiler should unlimited funds /labour / undercover storage space become available.

At present we are focussed on keeping our existing 4 locos in action. We have our regular running day on Easter Sunday but an extremely busy May with:
1 Ferrying passengers across to Wings Over The Illawarra on May 6
2 Our regular monthly running day on May 13
3 KidsFest activities on site on May 20th and the following week
4 Campfire ccoking festival on our site Saturday May 26

Preparatory also work continues on trying to organise our track extension towards the airport boundary as Stage 1 of linking our Museum to the HARS site ate Albion Park airport.

Regards,
John Garaty
ILRMS "tour guide"

--- In LRRSA@..., Bill Hanks <bhanks@...> wrote:

G'day John,
I recall seeing the Shay components at the ILRMS some years ago. At the time I thought it was an ambitious project, considering the condition of all the components I saw, in particular the boiler with a hole in the side where the cylinders had been removed with an explosive. I believe a spare Davenport boiler could be used instead.
In many instances, some historical items should not be restored, as too much of the original fabric is lost. I often think that some items should be properly conserved and displayed with appropriate interpretive material. At Puffing Billy there are two items of rolling stock recovered form private ownership, one item if restored would have less than 20 percent of the original fabric left. The other item remains much as the railways had finished with it in 1962, retaining the original interior and paint work. To restore both items would lose so much of their intrinsic value. It would be cheaper to build anew in many instances.
Regards,
Bill Hanks.

Sent from my iPad

On 04/04/2012, at 8:16 PM, "John Dimitrievich" <johnd@...<mailto:johnd@...>> wrote:



Dear Chris,

Most reports indicate that the original boiler is still "in the bush
down the back of the site"...

Partial Re-transmit from a current ILRMS member email:

"...Chris, ... the Shay boiler down the bush is one of the original A&D
Munro Shay boilers.

We are unsure whether it is the 1904 boiler or the later 1907 boiler.
Either way it is too severely damaged to be repaired and does not meet
the current boiler code even if it could be repaired.

Currently keeping our other 4 operational locos in operating trim is
taking most of our efforts. There has been little action on the Shay in
the past

12/18 months ..."

Hope this helps...

Happy Researching and Modelling,

Aim to Improve,

Prof Klyzlr

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Re: Talyllyn Railway film - in the early years of it preservation.

Mike
 

Frank -

Thanks. Early morning brain failure ! More coffee needed.

Cheers

MikeJ.


-------------------------------

--- In LRRSA@..., Frank Stamford <frank.stamford@...> wrote:


"Railway with a Heart of Gold" is the film which my first message in
this thread linked to.

Regards,

Frank


On 5/04/2012 4:59 PM, Mike wrote:

I certainly agree that the Talyllyn was one of the inspirations for
the 'Titfield Thunderbolt'

There is an absolutely classic little film, made in the 1950s in the
early days of the Talyllyn preservation by a visiting American
producer which captures the amateurish enthusiasm of the early
volunteeers.

Called 'Railway with a Heart of Gold' it is available on DVD from the
Talyllyn Railway shop, but the complete film is also on YouTube.

The link is extremely long & probably wouldm't survive posting, but a
search on YouTube with the film title should find it OK.

Recommended.

Cheers

Mike J.

-----------------------------------

--- In LRRSA@... <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>,
Frank Stamford <frank.stamford@> wrote:


Hello Graeme,

On 5/04/2012 12:06 AM, Graeme Inglis wrote:

Thank you Bill and Frank for drawing our attention to this film. I've
never
seen it before and it's an absolute gem for all kinds of reasons.

I can't help wondering if, along with much of the history of
saving the
Talyllyn as recorded in Rolt's 'Railway Adventure', it may have
provided
much of the impetus for the Ealing comedy 'Titfield Thunderbolt'
which was
made in 1953. There are all sorts of immediate parallels with this
film.
Definitely. That film was inspired by the Talyllyn project. It also had
a gentle dig at the unusually large numbers of members of the British
clergy who had an interest in railways, (eg the Rev. Edward Beal who
pioneered 00 gauge railway modelling and who helped fill the pages of
"Model Railway News" from 1925.

By the way, a DVD version of The Titfield Thunderbolt is available from
the English firm MovieMail at the very reasonable price of GBP5.99. See:

http://www.moviemail-online.co.uk/scripts/search_results.pl?searchterm=Titfield+Thunderbolt&image.x=5&image.y=8
<http://www.moviemail-online.co.uk/scripts/search_results.pl?searchterm=Titfield+Thunderbolt&image.x=5&image.y=8>

Regards,

Frank

I don't know if it's been posted on this group before, but there's
another
terrific film on YouTube about the 'Leek and Manifold' which - if it
had not
closed in 1935 would also have also been a prime candidate for
preservation,
although a sense of the line can be felt as the route is now a
cycle track
through picturesque country.

Entitled 'A Quaint Little Railway' filmed in 1930.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWZbZGGnE6E>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWZbZGGnE6E

Back to pleasant nostalgia . . . . !

Regards,

Graeme

_____

From: LRRSA@... <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>
<mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>
[mailto:LRRSA@...
<mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au> <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>]
On Behalf
Of Frank
Sent: Wednesday, 4 April 2012 9:41 PM
To: LRRSA@... <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>
<mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>
Subject: [LRRSA] Talyllyn Railway film - in the early years of it
preservation.

Hello all,

Bill Hanks has drawn my attention to an excellent film of the Welsh
2ft 3in
gauge Talyllyn Railway.

It can be found here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw4JCJjV87U
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw4JCJjV87U&feature=related
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw4JCJjV87U&feature=related>
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw4JCJjV87U&feature=related
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw4JCJjV87U&feature=related>>>
&feature=related

It is an extremely interesting film, taken by an American. Although
the date
shown at end of the film is 1965, it was actually taken around 1951.

These were the very early days of the Talyllyn Railway Preservation
Society,
when they were the only railway preservation society in the world,
and
they
were proving to themselves and others that amateurs could run a
railway.
Setting the path for so many others to follow - (with the
Festiniog and
Puffing Billy coming equal second and third).

L.T.C. Rolt's book "Railway Adventure" describes what they were going
through at that time, and how precarious the operation was. It is
a great
read and highly recommendable. And the track really was as bad as you
see in
the film.

I remember around 1953 seeing in one of my father's "Model Railway
Constructors" an item headed "This must not be the end" with a
photograph of
a section of the formation of the Talyllyn Railway with the track
ripped up,
and an explanation that they had to relay it and they desperately
needed
funds. That heading and the photograph are burned permanently in
my mind I
think.

Regards,

Frank




Re: Talyllyn Railway film - in the early years of it preservation.

Mike
 

To: LRRSA@...
From: frank.stamford@...
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 17:28:45 +1000
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Re: Talyllyn Railway film - in the early years of it preservation.







"Railway with a Heart of Gold" is the film which my first message in
this thread linked to.

Regards,

Frank

On 5/04/2012 4:59 PM, Mike wrote:

I certainly agree that the Talyllyn was one of the inspirations for
the 'Titfield Thunderbolt'

There is an absolutely classic little film, made in the 1950s in the
early days of the Talyllyn preservation by a visiting American
producer which captures the amateurish enthusiasm of the early
volunteeers.

Called 'Railway with a Heart of Gold' it is available on DVD from the
Talyllyn Railway shop, but the complete film is also on YouTube.

The link is extremely long & probably wouldm't survive posting, but a
search on YouTube with the film title should find it OK.

Recommended.

Cheers

Mike J.

-----------------------------------

--- In LRRSA@... <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>,
Frank Stamford <frank.stamford@...> wrote:


Hello Graeme,

On 5/04/2012 12:06 AM, Graeme Inglis wrote:

Thank you Bill and Frank for drawing our attention to this film. I've
never
seen it before and it's an absolute gem for all kinds of reasons.

I can't help wondering if, along with much of the history of
saving the
Talyllyn as recorded in Rolt's 'Railway Adventure', it may have
provided
much of the impetus for the Ealing comedy 'Titfield Thunderbolt'
which was
made in 1953. There are all sorts of immediate parallels with this
film.
Definitely. That film was inspired by the Talyllyn project. It also had
a gentle dig at the unusually large numbers of members of the British
clergy who had an interest in railways, (eg the Rev. Edward Beal who
pioneered 00 gauge railway modelling and who helped fill the pages of
"Model Railway News" from 1925.

By the way, a DVD version of The Titfield Thunderbolt is available from
the English firm MovieMail at the very reasonable price of GBP5.99. See:

http://www.moviemail-online.co.uk/scripts/search_results.pl?searchterm=Titfield+Thunderbolt&image.x=5&image.y=8
<http://www.moviemail-online.co.uk/scripts/search_results.pl?searchterm=Titfield+Thunderbolt&image.x=5&image.y=8>

Regards,

Frank

I don't know if it's been posted on this group before, but there's
another
terrific film on YouTube about the 'Leek and Manifold' which - if it
had not
closed in 1935 would also have also been a prime candidate for
preservation,
although a sense of the line can be felt as the route is now a
cycle track
through picturesque country.

Entitled 'A Quaint Little Railway' filmed in 1930.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWZbZGGnE6E>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWZbZGGnE6E

Back to pleasant nostalgia . . . . !

Regards,

Graeme

_____

From: LRRSA@... <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>
<mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>
[mailto:LRRSA@...
<mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au> <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>]
On Behalf
Of Frank
Sent: Wednesday, 4 April 2012 9:41 PM
To: LRRSA@... <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>
<mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>
Subject: [LRRSA] Talyllyn Railway film - in the early years of it
preservation.

Hello all,

Bill Hanks has drawn my attention to an excellent film of the Welsh
2ft 3in
gauge Talyllyn Railway.

It can be found here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw4JCJjV87U
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw4JCJjV87U&feature=related
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw4JCJjV87U&feature=related>
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw4JCJjV87U&feature=related
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw4JCJjV87U&feature=related>>>
&feature=related

It is an extremely interesting film, taken by an American. Although
the date
shown at end of the film is 1965, it was actually taken around 1951.

These were the very early days of the Talyllyn Railway Preservation
Society,
when they were the only railway preservation society in the world,
and
they
were proving to themselves and others that amateurs could run a
railway.
Setting the path for so many others to follow - (with the
Festiniog and
Puffing Billy coming equal second and third).

L.T.C. Rolt's book "Railway Adventure" describes what they were going
through at that time, and how precarious the operation was. It is
a great
read and highly recommendable. And the track really was as bad as you
see in
the film.

I remember around 1953 seeing in one of my father's "Model Railway
Constructors" an item headed "This must not be the end" with a
photograph of
a section of the formation of the Talyllyn Railway with the track
ripped up,
and an explanation that they had to relay it and they desperately
needed
funds. That heading and the photograph are burned permanently in
my mind I
think.

Regards,

Frank
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: Talyllyn Railway film - in the early years of it preservation.

Frank Stamford
 

"Railway with a Heart of Gold" is the film which my first message in
this thread linked to.

Regards,

Frank

On 5/04/2012 4:59 PM, Mike wrote:

I certainly agree that the Talyllyn was one of the inspirations for
the 'Titfield Thunderbolt'

There is an absolutely classic little film, made in the 1950s in the
early days of the Talyllyn preservation by a visiting American
producer which captures the amateurish enthusiasm of the early
volunteeers.

Called 'Railway with a Heart of Gold' it is available on DVD from the
Talyllyn Railway shop, but the complete film is also on YouTube.

The link is extremely long & probably wouldm't survive posting, but a
search on YouTube with the film title should find it OK.

Recommended.

Cheers

Mike J.

-----------------------------------

--- In LRRSA@... <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>,
Frank Stamford <frank.stamford@...> wrote:


Hello Graeme,

On 5/04/2012 12:06 AM, Graeme Inglis wrote:

Thank you Bill and Frank for drawing our attention to this film. I've
never
seen it before and it's an absolute gem for all kinds of reasons.

I can't help wondering if, along with much of the history of
saving the
Talyllyn as recorded in Rolt's 'Railway Adventure', it may have
provided
much of the impetus for the Ealing comedy 'Titfield Thunderbolt'
which was
made in 1953. There are all sorts of immediate parallels with this
film.
Definitely. That film was inspired by the Talyllyn project. It also had
a gentle dig at the unusually large numbers of members of the British
clergy who had an interest in railways, (eg the Rev. Edward Beal who
pioneered 00 gauge railway modelling and who helped fill the pages of
"Model Railway News" from 1925.

By the way, a DVD version of The Titfield Thunderbolt is available from
the English firm MovieMail at the very reasonable price of GBP5.99. See:

http://www.moviemail-online.co.uk/scripts/search_results.pl?searchterm=Titfield+Thunderbolt&image.x=5&image.y=8
<http://www.moviemail-online.co.uk/scripts/search_results.pl?searchterm=Titfield+Thunderbolt&image.x=5&image.y=8>

Regards,

Frank

I don't know if it's been posted on this group before, but there's
another
terrific film on YouTube about the 'Leek and Manifold' which - if it
had not
closed in 1935 would also have also been a prime candidate for
preservation,
although a sense of the line can be felt as the route is now a
cycle track
through picturesque country.

Entitled 'A Quaint Little Railway' filmed in 1930.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWZbZGGnE6E>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWZbZGGnE6E

Back to pleasant nostalgia . . . . !

Regards,

Graeme

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To: LRRSA@... <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>
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Subject: [LRRSA] Talyllyn Railway film - in the early years of it
preservation.

Hello all,

Bill Hanks has drawn my attention to an excellent film of the Welsh
2ft 3in
gauge Talyllyn Railway.

It can be found here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw4JCJjV87U
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw4JCJjV87U&feature=related
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw4JCJjV87U&feature=related>
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw4JCJjV87U&feature=related
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw4JCJjV87U&feature=related>>>
&feature=related

It is an extremely interesting film, taken by an American. Although
the date
shown at end of the film is 1965, it was actually taken around 1951.

These were the very early days of the Talyllyn Railway Preservation
Society,
when they were the only railway preservation society in the world,
and
they
were proving to themselves and others that amateurs could run a
railway.
Setting the path for so many others to follow - (with the
Festiniog and
Puffing Billy coming equal second and third).

L.T.C. Rolt's book "Railway Adventure" describes what they were going
through at that time, and how precarious the operation was. It is
a great
read and highly recommendable. And the track really was as bad as you
see in
the film.

I remember around 1953 seeing in one of my father's "Model Railway
Constructors" an item headed "This must not be the end" with a
photograph of
a section of the formation of the Talyllyn Railway with the track
ripped up,
and an explanation that they had to relay it and they desperately
needed
funds. That heading and the photograph are burned permanently in
my mind I
think.

Regards,

Frank


Re: Talyllyn Railway film - in the early years of it preservation.

Mike
 

I certainly agree that the Talyllyn was one of the inspirations for the 'Titfield Thunderbolt'

There is an absolutely classic little film, made in the 1950s in the early days of the Talyllyn preservation by a visiting American producer which captures the amateurish enthusiasm of the early volunteeers.

Called 'Railway with a Heart of Gold' it is available on DVD from the Talyllyn Railway shop, but the complete film is also on YouTube.

The link is extremely long & probably wouldm't survive posting, but a search on YouTube with the film title should find it OK.

Recommended.

Cheers

Mike J.


-----------------------------------

--- In LRRSA@..., Frank Stamford <frank.stamford@...> wrote:


Hello Graeme,

On 5/04/2012 12:06 AM, Graeme Inglis wrote:

Thank you Bill and Frank for drawing our attention to this film. I've
never
seen it before and it's an absolute gem for all kinds of reasons.

I can't help wondering if, along with much of the history of saving the
Talyllyn as recorded in Rolt's 'Railway Adventure', it may have provided
much of the impetus for the Ealing comedy 'Titfield Thunderbolt' which was
made in 1953. There are all sorts of immediate parallels with this film.
Definitely. That film was inspired by the Talyllyn project. It also had
a gentle dig at the unusually large numbers of members of the British
clergy who had an interest in railways, (eg the Rev. Edward Beal who
pioneered 00 gauge railway modelling and who helped fill the pages of
"Model Railway News" from 1925.

By the way, a DVD version of The Titfield Thunderbolt is available from
the English firm MovieMail at the very reasonable price of GBP5.99. See:

http://www.moviemail-online.co.uk/scripts/search_results.pl?searchterm=Titfield+Thunderbolt&image.x=5&image.y=8

Regards,

Frank

I don't know if it's been posted on this group before, but there's another
terrific film on YouTube about the 'Leek and Manifold' which - if it
had not
closed in 1935 would also have also been a prime candidate for
preservation,
although a sense of the line can be felt as the route is now a cycle track
through picturesque country.

Entitled 'A Quaint Little Railway' filmed in 1930.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWZbZGGnE6E>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWZbZGGnE6E

Back to pleasant nostalgia . . . . !

Regards,

Graeme

_____

From: LRRSA@... <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>
[mailto:LRRSA@... <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>]
On Behalf
Of Frank
Sent: Wednesday, 4 April 2012 9:41 PM
To: LRRSA@... <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>
Subject: [LRRSA] Talyllyn Railway film - in the early years of it
preservation.

Hello all,

Bill Hanks has drawn my attention to an excellent film of the Welsh
2ft 3in
gauge Talyllyn Railway.

It can be found here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw4JCJjV87U
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw4JCJjV87U&feature=related
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw4JCJjV87U&feature=related>>
&feature=related

It is an extremely interesting film, taken by an American. Although
the date
shown at end of the film is 1965, it was actually taken around 1951.

These were the very early days of the Talyllyn Railway Preservation
Society,
when they were the only railway preservation society in the world, and
they
were proving to themselves and others that amateurs could run a railway.
Setting the path for so many others to follow - (with the Festiniog and
Puffing Billy coming equal second and third).

L.T.C. Rolt's book "Railway Adventure" describes what they were going
through at that time, and how precarious the operation was. It is a great
read and highly recommendable. And the track really was as bad as you
see in
the film.

I remember around 1953 seeing in one of my father's "Model Railway
Constructors" an item headed "This must not be the end" with a
photograph of
a section of the formation of the Talyllyn Railway with the track
ripped up,
and an explanation that they had to relay it and they desperately needed
funds. That heading and the photograph are burned permanently in my mind I
think.

Regards,

Frank



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: Talyllyn Railway film - in the early years of it preservation.

Frank Stamford
 

Hello Graeme,

On 5/04/2012 12:06 AM, Graeme Inglis wrote:

Thank you Bill and Frank for drawing our attention to this film. I've
never
seen it before and it's an absolute gem for all kinds of reasons.

I can't help wondering if, along with much of the history of saving the
Talyllyn as recorded in Rolt's 'Railway Adventure', it may have provided
much of the impetus for the Ealing comedy 'Titfield Thunderbolt' which was
made in 1953. There are all sorts of immediate parallels with this film.
Definitely. That film was inspired by the Talyllyn project. It also had
a gentle dig at the unusually large numbers of members of the British
clergy who had an interest in railways, (eg the Rev. Edward Beal who
pioneered 00 gauge railway modelling and who helped fill the pages of
"Model Railway News" from 1925.

By the way, a DVD version of The Titfield Thunderbolt is available from
the English firm MovieMail at the very reasonable price of GBP5.99. See:

http://www.moviemail-online.co.uk/scripts/search_results.pl?searchterm=Titfield+Thunderbolt&image.x=5&image.y=8

Regards,

Frank

I don't know if it's been posted on this group before, but there's another
terrific film on YouTube about the 'Leek and Manifold' which - if it
had not
closed in 1935 would also have also been a prime candidate for
preservation,
although a sense of the line can be felt as the route is now a cycle track
through picturesque country.

Entitled 'A Quaint Little Railway' filmed in 1930.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWZbZGGnE6E>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWZbZGGnE6E

Back to pleasant nostalgia . . . . !

Regards,

Graeme

_____

From: LRRSA@... <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>
[mailto:LRRSA@... <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>]
On Behalf
Of Frank
Sent: Wednesday, 4 April 2012 9:41 PM
To: LRRSA@... <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>
Subject: [LRRSA] Talyllyn Railway film - in the early years of it
preservation.

Hello all,

Bill Hanks has drawn my attention to an excellent film of the Welsh
2ft 3in
gauge Talyllyn Railway.

It can be found here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw4JCJjV87U
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw4JCJjV87U&feature=related
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw4JCJjV87U&feature=related>>
&feature=related

It is an extremely interesting film, taken by an American. Although
the date
shown at end of the film is 1965, it was actually taken around 1951.

These were the very early days of the Talyllyn Railway Preservation
Society,
when they were the only railway preservation society in the world, and
they
were proving to themselves and others that amateurs could run a railway.
Setting the path for so many others to follow - (with the Festiniog and
Puffing Billy coming equal second and third).

L.T.C. Rolt's book "Railway Adventure" describes what they were going
through at that time, and how precarious the operation was. It is a great
read and highly recommendable. And the track really was as bad as you
see in
the film.

I remember around 1953 seeing in one of my father's "Model Railway
Constructors" an item headed "This must not be the end" with a
photograph of
a section of the formation of the Talyllyn Railway with the track
ripped up,
and an explanation that they had to relay it and they desperately needed
funds. That heading and the photograph are burned permanently in my mind I
think.

Regards,

Frank

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