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Re: Light railway in SW England

Phixer
 

A society is doing a good job of resurrecting sections of the Lynton &
Barnstaple railway. Otherwise I think light / narrow gauge railways in the
West Country are industrial or leisure.


Phixer

Me Too, as they say, we will be there in March.

We are definitely going to Great Orme Tramway in Wales, as it is a
funicular, also the Cliff Railway in Lynton, but I would like a list or
a book.

Don't miss Ffestinog. One of the best in Wales!!!

Phil Hammon


Re: Light railway in SW England

PH
 

Me Too, as they say, we will be there in March.

We are definitely going to Great Orme Tramway in Wales, as it is a funicular, also the Cliff Railway in Lynton, but I would like a list or a book.

Don't miss Ffestinog. One of the best in Wales!!!

Phil Hammon

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Re: Light railway in SW England

Bill
 

Hi Chris, Stephen and Alf,

Sincere thanks for your suggestions.

I'm following them up.

Cheers,
Bill


Re: Portable Track Research Update

bll_hnks
 

The First Fleet arrived at Sydney Cove in 1788. The has never been any mention of portable track in any of the ship manifests that I’ve heard of and never any mention of a ‘light railway’ so early, from the time of white settlement.

Bill Hanks

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Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012 9:31 AM
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Late 18th Century portable track? Was this brought out with the First Fleet?

Richard Horne

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Sent: Monday, 6 February 2012, 21:36
Subject: [LRRSA] Portable Track Research Update



Thanks to everyone who provided responses to my recent request for
information on late 18th and early 19th century users of portable track.
I'm still looking for specifics... especially which manufacturer
supplied which mill, etc.... but am getting closer.

Best wishes,
Lynn

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Box 1414 Main Post Office
Rockhampton, QLD 4700 AUSTRALIA


Re: Portable Track Research Update

rthorne475
 

Late 18th Century portable track?  Was this brought out with the First Fleet?

Richard Horne



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Sent: Monday, 6 February 2012, 21:36
Subject: [LRRSA] Portable Track Research Update


 
Thanks to everyone who provided responses to my recent request for
information on late 18th and early 19th century users of portable track.
I'm still looking for specifics... especially which manufacturer
supplied which mill, etc.... but am getting closer.

Best wishes,
Lynn

--
Lynn Zelmer
Box 1414 Main Post Office
Rockhampton, QLD 4700 AUSTRALIA




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Portable Track Research Update

A C Lynn Zelmer
 

Thanks to everyone who provided responses to my recent request for information on late 18th and early 19th century users of portable track. I'm still looking for specifics... especially which manufacturer supplied which mill, etc.... but am getting closer.

Best wishes,
Lynn

--
Lynn Zelmer
Box 1414 Main Post Office
Rockhampton, QLD 4700 AUSTRALIA


Re: Light railway in SW England

Alf Aiken
 

Hi Bill

Not a light railway but still worth seeing is Poldark Mine at Trenear near Wendron in Cornwall. It was known as Weldron Forge when I was there with the RAN in the mid 70's.

Have a look at this site for this & other sites of interest http://www.oliverscornwall.co.uk/museums.html

If you are staying at Redruth you will not be far away.

Alf

--- In LRRSA@..., Bill Daniels <trailerail@...> wrote:

Hi,

My wife and I will be spending a fortnight in SW England in May 2012 and I was wondering if there is a Directory of Light Railways, or someone who can recommend some places - we will be hiring a car from Heathrow and heading SW along the "bottom coast" - English Riviera, and then up along the coast to Minehead, Bristol and then to Swindon. We want to spend a day around Redruth.

Any help would be most appreciated.

Cheers,
Bill

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Re: Light railway in SW England

Stephen Cox
 


Re: Light railway in SW England

Chris Holloway \(Yahoo\) <tipton.harrier@...>
 


Light railway in SW England

Bill
 

Hi,

My wife and I will be spending a fortnight in SW England in May 2012 and I was wondering if there is a Directory of Light Railways, or someone who can recommend some places - we will be hiring a car from Heathrow and heading SW along the "bottom coast" - English Riviera, and then up along the coast to Minehead, Bristol and then to Swindon. We want to spend a day around Redruth.

Any help would be most appreciated.

Cheers,
Bill


Sorrrento Tramway, VIC, AUSTRALIA [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Rod Hutchinson <r.hutchinson@...>
 

Hi all,

Does anyone know of the availability of drawings of the Sorrento Steam Tram Rolling Stock?

Regards
Rod Hutchinson
------------------------------------------------------------
Melbourne, Victoria 3001, Australia


LRRSA Brisbane Meeting, 10/2/2012, 19:30

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Re: Researching Portable Railways

Mark Hambly
 

Evening,

With the exception of peat harvesting operations (see below) I would hazard a guess that possibly/probably the last regular use in UK was to assist the removal of spent sand from filter beds at Llanforda Water Treatment Works near Oswestry in Shropshire. The filter bed was drained, temporary track ("Jubilee" type 2ft gauge) was laid on the floor of the bed and sand was shovelled by hand into V skips which were propelled by hand to the edge of the bed where they were lifted out by a crane (rubber-tyred) onto the permanent track which surrounded the beds. Short trains of skips were then hauled by Hunslet and Ruston locomotives to a tip. This operation continued until at least the mid 1980s.

My caveat re. peat is because although peat harvesting operations in UK (and on a much larger scale in Ireland) involve a good deal of non-permanent trackwork, that trackwork is for the most part nevertheless of the same sort of weight as the permanent (i.e. not periodically moved) track on the same operations, as opposed to being of lightweight section and construction of "traditional" portable railways.

One "PS" to Stefan's comments - at a number of mills in Java where the rail operations have been reduced to relatively short hauls from truckyard to mill there were nevertheless still (in 2010) reasonable stockpiles of portable field track held at the mills - Pangka and Sragi come to mind.

Hope this is of some interest.

Regards,

Mark

--- In LRRSA@..., "stefan_matthaeus@..." <stefan_matthaeus@...> wrote:

Hello,

portable tracks still can be observed on Java on these mills:

- Asembagus
- Panji
- Maybe Olean (trains are often replaced by trucks now)
- Wringinanom
- Sumberharjo
- Maybe Jatiroto and Semboro (I haven't been there yet)

All other mills have terminated their field line activities. Rail
activities in these mills have been reduced to shunting in the factory
or completely terminated.

Stefan


Am 24.01.2012 08:32, schrieb Chris Stratton:

Last July I saw and photographed some bullocks pulling a couple of cane
wagons along some track in a paddock near Penang Mill in Fiji. The
track was
just laid across an already harvested section so I guess it was portable
track.

Regards,
Chris

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Sent: Tuesday, 24 January 2012 6:25 PM
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Subject: [LRRSA] Researching Portable Railways

G'day all

At John Browning's suggestion I've been working on a Light Railways
article
on portable railways, such as those used for manual and animal power
tramways in the early days of sugar plantations, some use of which has
lasted into the current century in Fiji, Indonesia, etc.

The article has now gone well beyond my knowledge base for modelling, and
John is busy finishing up a book, so I'm appealing for help from
anyone who
knows what companies (Decauville, O&K, Hudson, Gregg, etc.) supplied
portable systems to what countries, mills or plantations, and at what time
and through what agents. I know about Decauville and Homebush Mill but
otherwise...

As well, under what conditions are portable railways still being used?

Many thanks for your assistance
Lynn

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Box 1414 Main Post Office
Rockhampton, QLD 4700 AUSTRALIA

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Pictures of Ixion Models' RTR Hudswell Clarke 0-6-0ST

Lindsay O'Reilly <lindsay.oreilly@...>
 

Ixion Models is pleased to announce that we have received the first painted sample of the 7mm RTR Hudswell Clarke 0-6-0 standard contractor's tank. I have put a photo on our website at http://www.ixionmodels.com/welcome_page.htm . I would welcome your feedback.

Following evaluation of feedback from customers and retailers, we have decided to replace the lined blue livery with unlined black. The white/black/white lining will now appear on the green livery, as shown in the photo.
There will be a slight delay, as we are having two sections of the model re-tooled in order to remove unsightly join lines. The whole saddle tank will now lift off to access the DCC socket, eliminating the join seen in the photo. The second area is the bunker, which will eliminate the join seen in the photos of the first EP which can be viewed (along with high-res images of the new liveries) on the "7mm Hudswell Clarke" page of the website.

Samples of the black and maroon liveries should be available after Chinese New Year, and I will post photos as soon as we have them. The production run will hopefully commence in late February, and we anticipate delivery in late March/early April.

Lindsay O'Reilly
Ixion Model Railways Ltd.


Southern Forests Narrow Gauge Convention 2012

ianj0trains <ianaj@...>
 

Hi All,

I realised today that it's possible there are people on this forum who are not on the AusNG yahoo forum as well, and who may not be aware there is the Southern Forests Narrow Gauge Convention occuring on March 18th, in the Gemco Theatre at Emerald, Victoria.

The topics being covered are listed below.

We believe it will be a very interesting day, superb value for money, and encourage those who haven't yet registered to do so. Please note you have to register and pay prior to selecting your clinics, this is to ensure those who have paid get the best chance of attending the ones they prefer. I won't list all the speakers, suffice to say they all know their subject material.

The Future Direction of Puffing Billy (Eamonn Seddon, CEO PBPS)
NG railway modelling in NZ (Russell Postlewaight from NZ)
The history of the Corinella and Blackwood Forest Tramway
The NA class loco, and what has been changed to keep these veterans running into the future
Building Outback Model Company kits
Modelling in Sn3&1/2
The Cummins Smith Distillation Plant at Britannia Creek
Painting Models (NOTE: Only 3 places left in this clinic.)
Correcting and detailing the Model Company Krauss loco kit
Making realistic gum trees
The Art & Architecture of Queensland's 19th Century American Locomotives
Railway Ambulances
Making realistic gum trees
Prototype Freelancing
Painting Model Figures
Narrow Gauge Modelling, Materials and Methods

We look forward to seeing as many of you as possible on the day. If you haven't got a registration form, they're available from David Axup at daxup@... or myself, ianaj@...

As noted in the advertisements in Narrow Gauge Downunder Magazine and on the AusNG forum registration beforehand is compulsory, and they close on February 19th.

Regards

Ian Johnston
on behalf, Southern Forests Narrow Gauge Committee


Re: Researching Portable Railways

Stefan
 

Hello,

portable tracks still can be observed on Java on these mills:

- Asembagus
- Panji
- Maybe Olean (trains are often replaced by trucks now)
- Wringinanom
- Sumberharjo
- Maybe Jatiroto and Semboro (I haven't been there yet)

All other mills have terminated their field line activities. Rail
activities in these mills have been reduced to shunting in the factory
or completely terminated.

Stefan


Am 24.01.2012 08:32, schrieb Chris Stratton:


Last July I saw and photographed some bullocks pulling a couple of cane
wagons along some track in a paddock near Penang Mill in Fiji. The
track was
just laid across an already harvested section so I guess it was portable
track.

Regards,
Chris

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On Behalf
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Sent: Tuesday, 24 January 2012 6:25 PM
To: LRRSA@... <mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>
Subject: [LRRSA] Researching Portable Railways

G'day all

At John Browning's suggestion I've been working on a Light Railways
article
on portable railways, such as those used for manual and animal power
tramways in the early days of sugar plantations, some use of which has
lasted into the current century in Fiji, Indonesia, etc.

The article has now gone well beyond my knowledge base for modelling, and
John is busy finishing up a book, so I'm appealing for help from
anyone who
knows what companies (Decauville, O&K, Hudson, Gregg, etc.) supplied
portable systems to what countries, mills or plantations, and at what time
and through what agents. I know about Decauville and Homebush Mill but
otherwise...

As well, under what conditions are portable railways still being used?

Many thanks for your assistance
Lynn

--
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Box 1414 Main Post Office
Rockhampton, QLD 4700 AUSTRALIA

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Re: Researching Portable Railways

grahamharmer
 

Lynn,
Portable sections of 2 ft gauge track were used across the quarry floors at Pikes Hill at Kiama to convey blue metal blocks loaded into railed trucks by hand, to the crushers . These trucks were either then propelled by hand or by horse to the crushers. The track position was varied as the quarry walls were broken down and the working faces changed. Small turntables were incorporated in this system of temporary trackage in use in the 1920s and 30s
Graham Harmer


Re: Researching Portable Railways

Brian <rallim56@...>
 

Lynn,
At Racecourse Mill they still have some sections of line which are referred to as "Horse Lines", loco's cannot go over these tracks as the rail is too light, the farmer normally pulls the bins with a tractor to where they are loaded and then pulled back again by tractor to the siding, you can see one of these lines just across the road from the General Gordon pub. See link and look for line with a dog-leg slightly to the north opposite side of the road to the pub.
<http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-21.262048,149.081697&z=19&t=h&nmd=20100716>
Brian
Qld. Aust.

----- Original Message -----
From: "A C Lynn Zelmer" <lynn@...>
To: <LRRSA@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 5:24 PM
Subject: [LRRSA] Researching Portable Railways


G'day all

At John Browning's suggestion I've been working on a Light Railways
article on portable railways, such as those used for manual and animal
power tramways in the early days of sugar plantations, some use of which
has lasted into the current century in Fiji, Indonesia, etc.

The article has now gone well beyond my knowledge base for modelling,
and John is busy finishing up a book, so I'm appealing for help from
anyone who knows what companies (Decauville, O&K, Hudson, Gregg, etc.)
supplied portable systems to what countries, mills or plantations, and
at what time and through what agents. I know about Decauville and
Homebush Mill but otherwise...

As well, under what conditions are portable railways still being used?

Many thanks for your assistance
Lynn

--
Lynn Zelmer
Box 1414 Main Post Office
Rockhampton, QLD 4700 AUSTRALIA




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Re: Researching Portable Railways

Chris Stratton
 

Last July I saw and photographed some bullocks pulling a couple of cane
wagons along some track in a paddock near Penang Mill in Fiji. The track was
just laid across an already harvested section so I guess it was portable
track.

Regards,
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: LRRSA@... [mailto:LRRSA@...] On Behalf
Of A C Lynn Zelmer
Sent: Tuesday, 24 January 2012 6:25 PM
To: LRRSA@...
Subject: [LRRSA] Researching Portable Railways

G'day all

At John Browning's suggestion I've been working on a Light Railways article
on portable railways, such as those used for manual and animal power
tramways in the early days of sugar plantations, some use of which has
lasted into the current century in Fiji, Indonesia, etc.

The article has now gone well beyond my knowledge base for modelling, and
John is busy finishing up a book, so I'm appealing for help from anyone who
knows what companies (Decauville, O&K, Hudson, Gregg, etc.) supplied
portable systems to what countries, mills or plantations, and at what time
and through what agents. I know about Decauville and Homebush Mill but
otherwise...

As well, under what conditions are portable railways still being used?

Many thanks for your assistance
Lynn

--
Lynn Zelmer
Box 1414 Main Post Office
Rockhampton, QLD 4700 AUSTRALIA




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Researching Portable Railways

A C Lynn Zelmer
 

G'day all

At John Browning's suggestion I've been working on a Light Railways article on portable railways, such as those used for manual and animal power tramways in the early days of sugar plantations, some use of which has lasted into the current century in Fiji, Indonesia, etc.

The article has now gone well beyond my knowledge base for modelling, and John is busy finishing up a book, so I'm appealing for help from anyone who knows what companies (Decauville, O&K, Hudson, Gregg, etc.) supplied portable systems to what countries, mills or plantations, and at what time and through what agents. I know about Decauville and Homebush Mill but otherwise...

As well, under what conditions are portable railways still being used?

Many thanks for your assistance
Lynn

--
Lynn Zelmer
Box 1414 Main Post Office
Rockhampton, QLD 4700 AUSTRALIA