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Re: Film Unstoppable

PH
 

But how did that runaway train get through those points set against it when it wiped out the back two cars on the hero train?

Philip Hammon
ScenicWorld


Film Unstoppable

Terry
 

I just saw the film "Unstoppable" and would recommend it to fellow
railway gunzels as being interesting and enjoyable

While the story is hyped up somewhat it is loosely based on an incident
involving CSX locomotive 888

There is an account of the CSX incident on
http://kohlin.com/CSX8888/z-final-report.htm
<http://kohlin.com/CSX8888/z-final-report.htm> and also on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSX_8888_incident
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSX_8888_incident>

All in all it does show how easily simple mistakes can multiply into
potential disasters

Enjoy

Terry


Re: Tullah - Update

Stuart Livesey
 

Bill I would expect that the railway would show up on the topo maps seeing that it was the only way to access the town till the road was put in.

I should also tell you that there were one or two other towns on the west coast of Tasmania that could only be accessed by rail for many years - one was the home of an interesting 0-4-0+0-4-0T articulated loco from Germany

Stuart

--- In LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au, Bill Fornshell <bfornshell@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,
I have been looking at a lot of pictures on many web sites searching all the links, web sites and sending emails to all that were suggested or that I could find. �I have found a few more pictures and one that may help me tie in the other pictures. �This picture is a front shot of the mine area at Tullah.�
http://catalogue.statelibrary.tas.gov.au/item/?id=AB713-1-9226
It provides me with a way to place the other pictures in their relationship to the front, rear, right, or left of the mine. �With this picture I hope to create a mockup of sorts of the mine area and a close enough (I hope) track plan. �I also made a few card board mockups of the mine and started a photo album. �The card board mockup is not to scale but only a set of props to help me figure out the relationship between the pictures I have and where they sit on the terrain around the mine area. �From this I hope to rough in a track plan.
The photo album is called "Tullah" and can be found at this link:
http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/LRRSA/photos/album/1761146266/pic/list
Is their such a thing as an old Topo Map of that area? �Here in the US most of our old Topo Maps have the railroads on them. �Maybe the rail lines would show up on an old map of the area?
Thanks
Bill in Texas._,___









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Re: Tullah - Update

Bill Fornshell <bfornshell@...>
 

Hi everyone,
I have been looking at a lot of pictures on many web sites searching all the links, web sites and sending emails to all that were suggested or that I could find.  I have found a few more pictures and one that may help me tie in the other pictures.  This picture is a front shot of the mine area at Tullah. 
http://catalogue.statelibrary.tas.gov.au/item/?id=AB713-1-9226
It provides me with a way to place the other pictures in their relationship to the front, rear, right, or left of the mine.  With this picture I hope to create a mockup of sorts of the mine area and a close enough (I hope) track plan.  I also made a few card board mockups of the mine and started a photo album.  The card board mockup is not to scale but only a set of props to help me figure out the relationship between the pictures I have and where they sit on the terrain around the mine area.  From this I hope to rough in a track plan.
The photo album is called "Tullah" and can be found at this link:
http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/LRRSA/photos/album/1761146266/pic/list
Is their such a thing as an old Topo Map of that area?  Here in the US most of our old Topo Maps have the railroads on them.  Maybe the rail lines would show up on an old map of the area?
Thanks
Bill in Texas._,___









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Re: Tullah

John Dennis <jdennis@...>
 

Ah yes, I forgot about them, and that book. I thought I had arranged to buy
that book, but I can't find it in my collection. It might be worth emailing
Greg Blake (who's current email address is listed on the "under renovation"
website http://www.tullah.org/ ) he may have some diagrams, plans or maps
showing the mine area, and may be able to supply the book.

John

On 21 January 2011 12:17, billbolton16 <billbolton.email@gmail.com> wrote:



In LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au, Bill Fornshell <bfornshell@...> wrote:

I am looking for information about the Tullah Mining Area in Tasmania.
There's also this, from the National Library of Australia catalogue.....

Celebrating the centenary of the North Mount Farrell tramway : 1902-2002
Book Bib ID 2388447
Format Book, Online - Google Books
Description Rosebery, Tas. : Wee Georgie Wood Steam Railway Inc., c2002.
32 p. : ill., ports. ; 15 x 21 cm.

ISBN 0975001302


Re: Tullah

Bill Bolton
 

In LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au, Bill Fornshell <bfornshell@...> wrote:

I have to email them and have them send me a copy of issue 39.
The NGDU article is available on-line here.....

<http://www.westernwilderness.com.au/clients/westcoast/downloads/Farrell%20Tramway%20-%20finalised%20proofs%202.pdf>

Cheers,

Bill


Re: Tullah

Bill Bolton
 

In LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au, Bill Fornshell <bfornshell@...> wrote:

I am looking for information about the Tullah Mining Area in Tasmania.
There's also this, from the National Library of Australia catalogue.....

Celebrating the centenary of the North Mount Farrell tramway : 1902-2002
Book Bib ID 2388447
Format Book, Online - Google Books
Description Rosebery, Tas. : Wee Georgie Wood Steam Railway Inc., c2002.
32 p. : ill., ports. ; 15 x 21 cm.

ISBN 0975001302

Notes "November 2002".

Subjects North Mount Farrell Tramway. | Street-railroads - Tasmania - Tallah.

Other authors/contributors Wee Georgie Wood Steam Railway Inc

Also Titled 1902-2002 : celebrating the centenary of the North Mount Farrell Tramway

Available From 11 Bluff Street, TULLAH, TAS, 7321

****

Cheers,

Bill


Re: Tullah

John Dennis <jdennis@...>
 

Lou Rae's "History of Railways and Tramways on Tasmania's West Coast" has 8
or 9 pages covering the Tullah Tram, and does cover the history of the line,
but again tends to focussed very much on the line between Farrell Siding and
Tullah.

I have seen a number of photos of the workings around the mine, but I
suspect these were all taken, like Weston's, after the road went through and
the "main line" was closed, leaving just the short trip between mine and the
flotation plant, a distance of about half a mile.

The mine is an area which was obviously not explored by those who travelled
in and out on the train, more's the pity...

John

On 21 January 2011 11:39, Bruce Wood <bruce.wood@bigpond.com> wrote:

I find the Tullah tramway to be the most fascinating and inspirational
setting. There doesnt appear to have been much information recorded on the
evolving history of the railway? I dont know the likelihood of being able
to get a copy of the of the 1960 ARHS Bulletin?

A train picture book released in 2008 Trains and Railways of Australia
by the late Jim Powe, has a 11 picture coverage on the line. These are
mainly black and white pictures, and generally covers the supply train with
open wagons and covered van, between Tullah and Farrell Junction
(interchange with Emu Bay Railway). Only one photo has a date, which is
1954. There are no pictures of the ore train or the mine.

Regards

Bruce

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Re: Tullah

Bruce Wood
 

I find the Tullah tramway to be the most fascinating and inspirational setting. There doesn’t appear to have been much information recorded on the evolving history of the railway? I don’t know the likelihood of being able to get a copy of the of the 1960 ARHS Bulletin?

A train “picture book” released in 2008 – Trains and Railways of Australia by the late Jim Powe, has a 11 picture coverage on the line. These are mainly black and white pictures, and generally covers the supply train with open wagons and covered van, between Tullah and Farrell Junction (interchange with Emu Bay Railway). Only one photo has a date, which is 1954. There are no pictures of the ore train or the mine.

Regards

Bruce




From: Hunslet
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 8:20 AM
To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: [LRRSA] Re: Tullah


From MagIndex:

Article Name: The Tullah Tramway
ARH / Bulletin Vol 11, No 270, Apr 1960, pp49-56
Author/Contributor Name: Manny, LB
Comment: The Tullah Tramway connected the isolated mining town
of Tullah with the Emu Bay Railway. This article gives an account
of a journey over the line and describes the line, rolling stock,
and operational problems. 3 photos, 2 maps.
Contributions from JLN Southern, R Tonkies and JW Knowles appear
in Bn274 Aug 1960 , pp128 -31 . An earlier brief article on this
line appears in Bn104 Jun 1946 , p83 . IDENTIFIERS: Non-Government
Railways Tas / Mineral Railways
Tas / Tullah Tas / Southern, JLN / Tonkies, R / Knowles, JW

As has been said elsewhere, no track diagrams!

Hunslet


Re: 50 years of LRRSA - Sun.20.9.70 Lal Lal

Roderick Smith
 

I have reached the end of my printed b&w project: I will have to scan negatives, and most tours had very little coverage as colour slides.

AETA/LRRSA Yallourn Morwell trip 30.3.70: I was in Tasmania.
LRRSA "Upper Yarra Spectacular" trip in four-wheel drive vehicles 12 Apr.: Yet to scan.
LRRSA Lal Lal trip 20.9: A couple of colour ones have been added to my album.
LRRSA Sewer Tour II 21.11.70: Up already.
LRRSA McIvor Tour 13.12: I suspect that I missed this tour.

Today:
Photo 12: Possibly Phil Rickard.
Photo 14: ?, Arthur Straffen, prom Lionel Rickard, prob John Rickard.
The other slides were touristy, not LRRSA.

Regards,
Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor


Re: Tullah

Hunslet
 

From MagIndex:

Article Name: The Tullah Tramway
ARH / Bulletin Vol 11, No 270, Apr 1960, pp49-56
Author/Contributor Name: Manny, LB
Comment: The Tullah Tramway connected the isolated mining town of Tullah with the Emu Bay Railway. This article gives an account of a journey over the line and describes the line, rolling stock, and operational problems. 3 photos, 2 maps.
Contributions from JLN Southern, R Tonkies and JW Knowles appear in Bn274 Aug 1960 , pp128 -31 . An earlier brief article on this line appears in Bn104 Jun 1946 , p83 . IDENTIFIERS: Non-Government Railways Tas / Mineral Railways
Tas / Tullah Tas / Southern, JLN / Tonkies, R / Knowles, JW


As has been said elsewhere, no track diagrams!


Hunslet


Re: 50 years of LRRSA - Sat.4.10.69 SRWSC Tatura & Waranga

Roderick Smith
 

I have added the final five to my Roderick Smith album in the group's photos section.

35: ?, ?.
36: Seated David Hennell, ?, John Withers, Barry Stewart, Ian Stanley, Andrew Hennell; standing Richard Dempster.
37: Prob Richard Dempster standing, then ?, ?, ?, ?.
38: Front six: Phil Rickard, Andrew Hennell, ?, John Withers, David Hennell, Ian Stanley; rear two: Richard Dempster, ?.
39: prob John Prideaux.

Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor


Re: Tullah

John Dennis <jdennis@...>
 

The April 1960 Bulletin has an 8 page article, but there's no photo of the
mine area, and no description of the line beyond the township of Tullah. I
assumed that when Bill mentioned "Tullah Mine Area" and Weston Langford's
photos (almost all of which are between the town and the mine, as the line
to Farrell Siding was closed by the time of visit) that he is looking for
details of the Mine, not the "main line" end.

John

On 19 January 2011 19:32, frank_strik <fstrik@bigpond.net.au> wrote:


Bill,
If memory serves, there is more detail of the "main line" end of the Tullah
tramway in some older ARHS bulletins - I don't have copies handy but others
here might be able to delve into their archives...

If you want the current 'heritage' arrangements, the Quail Tasmanian rail
atlas should have the entire layout.

Cheers,
Frank Strik




Re: Tullah

Bob Thornton
 

G'day Bill,

don't think it's been mentioned yet, there are around 1000 articles on the NLA newspaper site....

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=tullah+tram&exactPhrase=&anyWords=¬Words=&l-textSearchScope=*ignore*|*ignore*&fromdd=&frommm=&fromyyyy=&todd=&tomm=&toyyyy=&l-word=*ignore*|*ignore*&sortby=

probably not much in the way of images, but plenty of words.

Fantastic resource, along with the NAA - http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch.aspx plenty of Tassie rail material, including bags of drawings.

cheers,
Bob


Re: Tullah

frank_strik
 

Bill,
If memory serves, there is more detail of the "main line" end of the Tullah tramway in some older ARHS bulletins - I don't have copies handy but others here might be able to delve into their archives...

If you want the current 'heritage' arrangements, the Quail Tasmanian rail atlas should have the entire layout.

Cheers,
Frank Strik


Re: Tullah

bll_hnks
 

A quick look at what's available via Picture Australia (Search on Tullah), doesn't reveal much. There is a general view of the mine, but no railway lines can be seen. One other photo is of a train on a truss bridge.

Bill Hanks
From: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au [mailto:LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au] On Behalf Of Ron Martin
Sent: Tuesday, 18 January 2011 8:10 PM
To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Re: Tullah



Yes, I've not entered this discussion, because, apart from the written
detail given in Lou Rae's books, all of my material is either of locomotives
or rolling stock, various lineside views and some pictures of the exchange
arrangements with the EBR. I have never seen actual track diagrams of any
part of the line.

Ron



-------Original Message-------

From: John Dennis
Date: 18/01/2011 7:02:59 PM
To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au<mailto:LRRSA%40yahoogroups.com.au>
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Re: Tullah

I think that there are probably sufficient photos taken at Farrell Siding,
plus written descriptions, to come up with a pretty reasonable idea of the
track plan there. I was under the impression that Bill wanted plans of the
mine area, which was much less visited, being beyond the "station" in the
township of Tullah.

John

On 18 January 2011 18:51, rnveditor <rodsmith@werple.net.au<mailto:rodsmith%40werple.net.au>> wrote:

There is a photo in one of the earliest Richardson booklets (Australian
Railways Today?) which shows just a stub-end track adjacent to EBR. There
could well have been a loop and proper station down the slope, away from
the
interchange.

Regards,
Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor





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Re: Tullah

Ron Martin <ronhil@...>
 

Yes, I've not entered this discussion, because, apart from the written
detail given in Lou Rae's books, all of my material is either of locomotives
or rolling stock, various lineside views and some pictures of the exchange
arrangements with the EBR. I have never seen actual track diagrams of any
part of the line.

Ron

-------Original Message-------

From: John Dennis
Date: 18/01/2011 7:02:59 PM
To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Re: Tullah

I think that there are probably sufficient photos taken at Farrell Siding,
plus written descriptions, to come up with a pretty reasonable idea of the
track plan there. I was under the impression that Bill wanted plans of the
mine area, which was much less visited, being beyond the "station" in the
township of Tullah.

John

On 18 January 2011 18:51, rnveditor <rodsmith@werple.net.au> wrote:

There is a photo in one of the earliest Richardson booklets (Australian
Railways Today?) which shows just a stub-end track adjacent to EBR. There
could well have been a loop and proper station down the slope, away from
the
interchange.

Regards,
Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor





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Re: Tullah

John Dennis <jdennis@...>
 

I think that there are probably sufficient photos taken at Farrell Siding,
plus written descriptions, to come up with a pretty reasonable idea of the
track plan there. I was under the impression that Bill wanted plans of the
mine area, which was much less visited, being beyond the "station" in the
township of Tullah.

John

On 18 January 2011 18:51, rnveditor <rodsmith@werple.net.au> wrote:

There is a photo in one of the earliest Richardson booklets (Australian
Railways Today?) which shows just a stub-end track adjacent to EBR. There
could well have been a loop and proper station down the slope, away from the
interchange.

Regards,
Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor





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Re: Tullah

Roderick Smith
 

There is a photo in one of the earliest Richardson booklets (Australian Railways Today?) which shows just a stub-end track adjacent to EBR. There could well have been a loop and proper station down the slope, away from the interchange.

Regards,
Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor


Re: Tullah

Bill Fornshell <bfornshell@...>
 

Hi Dennis,
Thank you for the copy of your article from Narrow Gauge Down Under (NGDU).  I subscribe to that magazine and have 33 issues of it.  My subscription expired with issue 38 and when I renewed they were suppose to start it with issue #39.  When I got the next issue I had a second copy of issue #38 and the current issue #40.  I am guessing this article of yours was in issue 39.  I have to email them and have them send me a copy of issue 39.
As soon as I read that you wrote the article for NGDU and pulled all my copies off the shelf. For those who don't get NGDU, Dennis is a feature writer for the magazine.  He writes an interesting article each issue called "Off The Beaten Path, Lesser know but interesting narrow gauge railways".  I also have to say at this point that NGDU is getting more popular here in the USA with each issue.
So I looked through each of my 33 or so back issues.  In issue 15 their are a couple pictures of a Turnout from the Railway at Tullah.  Then in issue 16, I found three pictures taken by Eric Marsh back in 1964.  I have to do a search for Eric, maybe someone here knows him.
A few minutes ago I got a return email from Weston Langford.  He doesn't have any information on a track plan but he said he is passing my request to a few friends who might have what I am looking for.  
Bill in Texas

--- On Mon, 1/17/11, John Dennis <jdennis@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

From: John Dennis <jdennis@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Tullah
To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au
Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 8:35 PM
















 









Hi Bill,



Issue #33 of LR contains a single paragraph about the Tullah Tramway, an

announcement that they were hoping to restore Wee Georgie Wood. There are a

few other references to the Tullah Tram in Light Railways, most recently in

issue 215 (October 2010) where there is a delightful article. No track plans

though - I don't believe I have ever seen any track plans.



I don't know what you already have about the tramway, but I wrote a small

column in Narrow Gauge Downunder recently, which has been made available

from a tasmanian website:

http://www.westernwilderness.com.au/clients/westcoast/downloads/Farrell%20Tramway%20-%20finalised%20proofs%202.pdf



I think I have some photos in my collection showing the mine area. I will

dig around and see what I can find which might help you.



John



On 18 January 2011 12:55, Bill Fornshell <bfornshell@yahoo.com> wrote:



Hi,
I am Bill a new member. I live in San Antonio, Texas - USA.
I am looking for information about the Tullah Mining Area in Tasmania.
First, I would like to thank those who replied to my request to Lynn. I
discovered this yahoo group from a CC reference on one of the emails to me.
I found the group, requested membership and was approved. After I was
approved I looked over the group site and did a message search for Tullah.
I found three messages. One message (#818) had a reference to issue #33 of
"Light Rails" now available as a PDF file. I looked up LRRSA and found the
issue #33 for sale. I was /will buy it but I am not sure how to pay the
$2.00 or so for the download. I sent them an email asking for about that.
This brings me to a question. Does anyone have issue #33 of Light Rail
that they could look at and let me know what is in the article. I am hoping
for some type of track plan for the area around the Mine and maybe a few
pictures of the Mine Buildings.
It was also suggested I email Weston of "westonlangford.com" and see if he
made a track plan when he took the pictures of the Tullah Mine Area that I
found on his web site. I sent him an email early this afternoon - Texas
Time.
Thanks.
Bill in Texas

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