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Re: Oberursel locomotives

B.Rumary
 

David Martin wrote:

I am in the process of writing up the history of an Oberursel
locomotive at the Museum of Transport and Technology in Auckland. I was
wondering if any locomotives from this manufacturer ever went to
Australia.

Can anyone throw further light on this subject please?+
Have you seen this web page?
www.werkbahn.de/eisenbahn/lokbau/oberursel.htm

Click on "Lieferliste" button to see a list of all known locos by this
builder. If you contact Jens Merte <mail@lokhersteller.de>, the author of
this website, you will find that he speaks reasonable English.

Brian Rumary, England

www.rumary.co.uk


Re: Port Melbourne 610 mm reclamation tramways

Roderick Smith
 

Adding to my March message,
I have placed in my Port of Melbourne photo album another photo of
tracks embedded in concrete, almost certainly in Williamstown Rd (Port
Melbourne / Garden City). This one was taken in Sept.73. Is it the
same as the one shown in my photo DV41? On this day I motorcycled
along Williamstown Rd to & from the former punt: out of use, moored at
the Williamstown bank, but not yet sunk or scrapped.

Regards,
Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor


Oberursel locomotives

David Martin <davidmart@...>
 

I am in the process of writing up the history of an Oberursel
locomotive at the Museum of Transport and Technology in Auckland. I was
wondering if any locomotives from this manufacturer ever went to
Australia.
The loco I am involved with was built in 1912 as a kerosine powered
single cylinder loco. Originally of 2ft gauge it was regauged to 3'6"
in the 1940's when it worked at a mercury mine.
From info learned so far there are only a few locos from this
manufacturer left in World and our one is the only one with the
original engine in operating condition. With its centenary due in 4
years it would be good to try and get as much info as possible about
Oberursel themselves. They became part of Deutz in 1920 and built less
than 1000 locos.
Can anyone throw further light on this subject please?+


Re: Connections between Kalka-Simla Railway and N E Dundas??

Michael J
 

----- Original Message -----
From: The Bickfords [mailto:womloc4@iinet.net.au]


I am pretty sure the G class 0-4-2T locos on the NE Dundas Tramway were
based on a standard design from Sharp Stewart.
Similarly the locos for the Kalka Simla line.
Also the L class on the Ceylon Railways. They were all very similar locos but with enough detail differences to see they were all individual designs. I've got a copy of the North British narrow gauge loco catalogue, which includes details of all of them. There was also a very similar, but much smaller model produced for another Indian narrow gauge line.

The main wheelbase of the G class and the Darjeeling locos is almost
identical.
The first two locos on the Kalka-Simla line were Darjeeling locos converted to 2'6" gauge.

The decision to build the NED line at 2 foot gauge was sure to have been
influenced by technical engineering papers on similar lines in India.
Maybe. The VR certainly got papers on Indian NG lines, which affected the decision to build in 2'6" gauge. The Kalka-Simla was started in 2' gauge but converted to 2'6" gauge during construction.

Cheers,

Michael


Re: Connections between Kalka-Simla Railway and N E Dundas??

The Bickfords <womloc4@...>
 

John,

I am pretty sure the G class 0-4-2T locos on the NE Dundas Tramway were based on a standard design from Sharp Stewart.
Similarly the locos for the Kalka Simla line.
The same magazine has an article about the building of the Towy Valley model railway. In that article the author refers to standard locos from Sharp Stewart. He has previously described the building of several models, influenced by the NED line Sharp Stewarts and those in India.

The National Archives digital plans collection of NED rollingstock includes a proposal drawing for the G class that has an open cab, similar to the Darjeeling locos ie roof on posts.
The main wheelbase of the G class and the Darjeeling locos is almost identical.
The decision to build the NED line at 2 foot gauge was sure to have been influenced by technical engineering papers on similar lines in India.

cheers,
Mike Bickford
Berowra Heights NSW

----- Original Message -----
From: "crannyjohn" <peterson.john.j@EDUMAIL.VIC.GOV.AU>
To: <LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au>
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 8:41 PM
Subject: [LRRSA] Connections between Kalka-Simla Railway and N E Dundas??


Hello all,

The latest NG&IRMR arrived from the UK today with an article on the
Kalka-Simla Railway in India. What struck me was a photo of a series
of locos built by Sharp Stewart which looked identical to the G class
on the NE Dundus line in Tassie. The cylinder dimensions are the same
as is the weight. The Indian ones were built in 1902 so therefore
after the Tassie ones. Did they copy the Tassie design or was this a
standard type from the builder?

The article also describes a series of coaches which used the light
steel frames of the coach to help support a lightened frame to reduce
the dead weight hauled up the grade instead of a traditional frame.
Was this tried in Australia??

Cheers
John


Connections between Kalka-Simla Railway and N E Dundas??

John Peterson
 

Hello all,

The latest NG&IRMR arrived from the UK today with an article on the
Kalka-Simla Railway in India. What struck me was a photo of a series
of locos built by Sharp Stewart which looked identical to the G class
on the NE Dundus line in Tassie. The cylinder dimensions are the same
as is the weight. The Indian ones were built in 1902 so therefore
after the Tassie ones. Did they copy the Tassie design or was this a
standard type from the builder?

The article also describes a series of coaches which used the light
steel frames of the coach to help support a lightened frame to reduce
the dead weight hauled up the grade instead of a traditional frame.
Was this tried in Australia??

Cheers
John


Re: Rottnest Island

Frank Stamford
 

Hello Alf,

LR46 is not currently available, but will eventually be made available
as a downloadable pdf.

In the meantime I have put a scan of the article in question in the
files section of this Yahoo Group: LR046_Rottnest_Island_Tramway.pdf


Regards,

Frank

--- In LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au, "Alf Atkin" <pollux1au@...> wrote:

I have recently been reading a number of old LR magazines that I
bought.

LR 131, January 1996 has an article in it about Rottnest Island. This
article refers to a previous article in LR46 which apparently details
the history of the railway on the island.

Would any one be able to supply me with a copy of this article, or is
LR46 still available.

Regards
Alf Atkin


New file uploaded to LRRSA

LRRSA@...
 

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Commonwealth Engineering - Second Volume of its history about to be published

Frank Stamford
 

Rosenberg Publishing has announced that:

"COMENG2: A History of Commonwealth Enginnering Volume 2, 1955-1966"
by John Dunn

is to be published in September this year.

Details can be found at this website:

http://www.rosenbergpub.com.au/handleProduct.asp?id=93&catid=2

This volume will cover the development of the Company's involvement
in the manufacture of narrow-gauge industrial locomotives (of the
non-steam variety) as widely used in the sugar industry.

The first volume (which is still available) was reviewed in LR 191,
page 22. I read the first volume from cover to cover and found it very
well researched and written, extremely interesting, and good value for
such a complex book.

Frank


Beyer Peacock website

Frank Stamford
 

The following website may be of interest:

http://www.beyerpeacock.co.uk/index.htm

It has a lot of information on Beyer Peacock locomotives.

Use the red builder's plates to navigate around the site.

"List of Locomotives" leads to a number of detailed pdf documents
which are searchable.

"Railways of Disctinction" leads to a list of BP's customers in
descending order of locomotives bought (I was surprised to find who
BP's best customer was).

"Drawings" leads to a number of beautiful scale drawings of a
selection of BP locomotives (though I found one where the end
elevation was of a different loco to the side elevation).

I am not sure how often this site is updated - the last date appears
to be 2005. Unfortunately the site is effectively anonymous which
makes me somewhat reluctant to create a link to it from the LRRSA
website.

Also on the subject of Beyer Peacock, the following website:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/d.a.ratcliffe/lhg/vol6/beyerpk.htm

has very interesting biographical data on the founders of the Company.
Karl Friedrich Beyer was the son of impoverished hand-loom weavers in
Saxony, and the story of his early life is extremely interesting.

Richard Peacock, at the age of only 20, was General Manager of the
Manchester, Sheffield and Lincolnshire Railway Company's Locomotive
and Carriage Workshops.

Regards,

Frank


Re: Museum Exhibit On-Demand Sound Systems

John Dimitrievich <johnd@...>
 

Dear Lynn,



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Lynn Zelmer Wrote:



Archer Park Museum has a state-of-the-art 'soundscape' that provides
background sound, but we're also interested in providing visitors
with opportunities to get more information about individual
exhibits... short explanations, oral histories, etc.

Ideally these would be a small wall or post-mounted box with a small
speaker (no earphones please) with an obvious push button to start
the commentary (there should probably also be a hidden on/off switch
and a 'brick' for power), solid state components (no tapes, CDs,
etc.) a USB connection to upload new material, and an auto-off at the
end of the selection. And obviously minimal cost!

I've tried searching for museum suppliers but haven't been able to
find anything that resembles what we want.

Any suggestions from what your organisation is using and/or suppliers
that you know?


Museum Exhibit On-Demand Sound Systems

A C Lynn Zelmer
 

Archer Park Museum has a state-of-the-art 'soundscape' that provides background sound, but we're also interested in providing visitors with opportunities to get more information about individual exhibits... short explanations, oral histories, etc.

Ideally these would be a small wall or post-mounted box with a small speaker (no earphones please) with an obvious push button to start the commentary (there should probably also be a hidden on/off switch and a 'brick' for power), solid state components (no tapes, CDs, etc.) a USB connection to upload new material, and an auto-off at the end of the selection. And obviously minimal cost!

I've tried searching for museum suppliers but haven't been able to find anything that resembles what we want.

Any suggestions from what your organisation is using and/or suppliers that you know?

Many thanks, Lynn
--
Helping preserve Queensland's rail heritage... qldrailheritage.com
A C Lynn Zelmer, coordinator: Box 1414, Rockhampton Qld 4700


LRRSA Melbourne Meeting , 14/8/2008, 20:00

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Date:   Thursday 14 August 2008
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LRRSA Adelaide Meeting, 7/8/2008, 20:00

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Date:   Thursday 7 August 2008
Time:   20:00 - 22:30
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Rottnest Island

Alf Aiken
 

I have recently been reading a number of old LR magazines that I
bought.

LR 131, January 1996 has an article in it about Rottnest Island. This
article refers to a previous article in LR46 which apparently details
the history of the railway on the island.

Would any one be able to supply me with a copy of this article, or is
LR46 still available.

Regards
Alf Atkin


LRRSA Brisbane Meeting, 8/8/2008, 19:30

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Title:   LRRSA Brisbane Meeting
 
Date:   Friday 8 August 2008
Time:   19:30 - 22:00
Repeats:   This event repeats every other month on the second Friday.
Location:   BCC Library, Garden City Shopping Centre, Mount Gravatt, after hours entrance, (rear of library) opposite Mega Theatre Complex, next to Toys R Us
 
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Re: "Light Railways" No.202 posted ... but will you get it?

BLI BLI <alcogoodwin@...>
 

Howdee,
            So much been happening the last two months I am thinking I may have been remiss in renewing this year?
  Suppose I better get my act together.

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--- On Fri, 8/1/08, Frank Stamford <frank.stamford@bigpond.com> wrote:
From: Frank Stamford <frank.stamford@bigpond.com>
Subject: [LRRSA] "Light Railways" No.202 posted ... but will you get it?
To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au
Date: Friday, 1 August, 2008, 8:40 PM











"Light Railways" No.202 August 2008 was packed last night and will be

put into the mail today or on Monday.



The LRRSA web site has also been updated to included LR 202, and the

preliminary announcement of the publication of the new book "Shays,

Crabs and Phosphate".



"Light Railways" No.202 is the first issue for the new financial year.



If you have not yet taken up the invitation to renew your

subscription, (which went out with the both the April and June issues)

you will unfortunately not be included in this mailout. However you

will receive another invitation to renew.



In the current financial year we expect to be offering members

pre-publication discounts on two books "Shays, Crabs and Phosphate";

and "Tall Timber and Tramlines in Queensland".



Plans are also underway for a meeting for our members in Perth in

September. This may be a one-off meeting, or could lead to regular

meetings.



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"Light Railways" No.202 posted ... but will you get it?

Frank Stamford
 

"Light Railways" No.202 August 2008 was packed last night and will be
put into the mail today or on Monday.

The LRRSA web site has also been updated to included LR 202, and the
preliminary announcement of the publication of the new book "Shays,
Crabs and Phosphate".

"Light Railways" No.202 is the first issue for the new financial year.

If you have not yet taken up the invitation to renew your
subscription, (which went out with the both the April and June issues)
you will unfortunately not be included in this mailout. However you
will receive another invitation to renew.

In the current financial year we expect to be offering members
pre-publication discounts on two books "Shays, Crabs and Phosphate";
and "Tall Timber and Tramlines in Queensland".

Plans are also underway for a meeting for our members in Perth in
September. This may be a one-off meeting, or could lead to regular
meetings.

Regards,

Frank


8102 visits Bluescope Flat Products area

Chris Stratton
 

On Thursday morning around 11:30 8102, the PN shunt loco at Port Kembla,
came trundling north up the Bluescope western perimeter line to the Flat
Products area near the North Gate. This is the first time I've seen an 81 in
this area. It returned south to Cringila yard about 15 minutes later with a
long rake of loaded steel wagons.
Regards.
CS


Re: Photos for Light Railways magazine

hemsvale <boxcargraphics@...>
 

--- In LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au, "Scott Gould" <sncs@...>
wrote:

Hi all,

I have some photos of some narrow gauge operations I would
like to
send in for publication in Light Railways, but am not too sure of
file
size and format required. I'm sure others may be in the same
situation, can our editors please respond with the
requirements? It
might bring some interesting stuff out of the woodwork!

Thanks,

Scott
Hi Scott,

Thanks for thinking of us. Contributions to Light Railways
magazine are always welcome.

Files can be e-mailed as Jpegs to:
boxcargraphics@optusnet.com.au
or sent on disk as Jpegs or Tiffs to
PO Box 674 St Ives NSW 2075.

Ideally, images should be at least 300dpi at full reproduction
size (or equivalent). For a typical News photo, this would mean
around 1500 x 1000 pixels, for a half-page News or half-page
feature photo around 2200 x 1500 and for a potential cover or
back cover photo around 3600 x 2400.

Regards
Bruce Belbin

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