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Re: Little Yarra

David Halfpenny <dh16mm@...>
 

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From: <thirtyinchfan@pearcedale.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 9:43 AM


There is an argument that prototypes are best modelled with the correct scale gauge for that prototype,
I think I've managed to say a lot without answering you question!
Well I'm sympathetic to the dilemma because I have much the same issue with "the odd six inches" but in the other direction.

When I started Australian modelling it all seemed so simple. Warburton and Powelltown's three foot gauge was perfect for 1/20 scale on 45mm gauge. I bought a couple of live steamers and started converting a third to a reasonable rendering of Warburton Steam Tramway No.3. If ever Little Yarra came out in 1/20 scale, I'd be like a dog with two lamp-posts.

I knew that my Lahey Brothers Climax had been built to 3'6" gauge, but, hey it didn't matter - maybe Powelltown could have tried a Climax along with their Shays? Maybe the Laheys could have sold theirs on to a line that regauged her instead of s t r e t c h i n g her boiler? She still looked OK.

And then I got interested in Kiwi bush trams. Sure I'd be happy with a Price on three foot gauge - I hear there were some three foot tramways on South Island. But when I came across Ollie Smith's rail tractors, they just looked horribly wrong in 1/20 scale. That odd six inches made a huge to difference to the "look" of those particular prototypes.

Then fate took an unexpected turn - I was offered some 1/24 scale live steamers . . . . I suppose I'll just run two separate fleets. After all, there's a lot more water between OX and NZ than most Poms realise!

David 1/2d
Blighty


Re: The sound of a Krauss whistle

John Dennis <jdennis@...>
 

Thanks to all those who offered assistance. Frank Savery sent me a
DVD taken at Redwater Creek in Tasmania, and from that I have
extracted a couple of the whistles. If people are interested they can
be found in the files section (of both groups) - look for the "JohnD's
Stuff" folder.

Bob Backway also provided a lovely clip of double headed Krauss locos,
but as we are not certain of the source, and not wishing to break any
copyright rules, I can't upload that.

Now to see whether the "decoder man" can come up with some sounds
which match this whistle...

Thanks,
John


On Tue, 20 May 2008 16:57:00 +1000, jdennis@optusnet.com.au wrote:

Hi All,

I am in the process of purchasing a DCC sound decoder to fit into
my (as yet unbuilt) Irvinebank Tramway 0-6-0 Krauss "Betty". The
supplier has asked me what type of whistle these locos had. Is
anybody able to advise on the sound of a typical Krauss whistle?
(I assume that this is a standard thing from the manufacturer). I
know it's difficult to describe sounds in words, but even something
like a high-pitched shriek, or a "peanut" whistle, will help.

Thanks,
John Dennis
==========================================================
John Dennis jdennis@optusnet.com.au
Melbourne,Australia Home of the HOn30 Dutton Bay Tramway
and the Australian Narrow Gauge Web-Exhibition Gallery
Dutton Bay URL: http://members.optusnet.com.au/duttonbay
WebX http://members.optusnet.com.au/jdennis/ng_webex.html


Re: Little Yarra

Brian Millar <rallim56@...>
 

Hi Michael, David & All,
With regards to the frames of a model of Little Yarra, it would be very easy for any manufacturer to build the main frames at 10mm. in width and have castings with all the detail which fit onto the main inner frames for On30, and additional spacers to space these detail frames out further for On3.
Cheers
Brian.Millar

----- Original Message -----
From: <thirtyinchfan@pearcedale.com>
To: <LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: [LRRSA] Re: Little Yarra


----- Original Message -----
From: David Halfpenny [mailto:dh16mm@hotmail.com]


I'm not sure I've got your drift, Michael.

Is your emphasis on "minor" or "offence"?

ie are you for it?
or agin it?
That's a difficult question!

I model in On30, and I guess the more that is available, the more interests covered, the more people will model On30, and the more likely it is products I would like to see will be produced. So from a purely selfish point of view the more the better.

There is an argument that prototypes are best modelled with the correct scale gauge for that prototype, and I have some sympathy for that. On the other hand there are practical considerations, and On30 is, as you have observed, a practical scale/gauge. The practical arguments can run from the difficulty of hand-building turnouts, as would be required in On3 for instance, to by choosing On30 I can run my equipment on my mates layout, and visa versa. There is also the very practical argument for the manufacturer that by choosing On30 he stands some chance of selling enough models to make the enterprise worthwhile.

Since coming back into the hobby 5 or more years ago I have become somewhat fascinated with 2'6" gauge railways in particular. I have collected quite a lot of information on 2'6" gauge railways and their equipment. One thing I note is that with industrial locomotives and the lines they ran on, choice of gauge is often a whim of their owner. That is there is no reason the Powelltown line could not have been built in 2'6" gauge, and operate very similar equipment. The question would Baldwin have built Little Yarra with outside frames for this gauge is an interesting one. Probably, but there is enough leeway there to give any modeller the benefit of the doubt. One interesting scenario for a freelance modeller would be to imagine the Warburton line was built to 2'6" gauge as planned, and the Powelltown interchanged with it.

I am a freelance modeller, but I hope that my scenario retains a high degree of plausibility. I probably won't buy a Little Yarra model, because it is too small and too modern for my scenario. And because I am modelling a 2'6" gauge railway (even if fictitious) I think I would also be worried about the frames issue as well.

I better become a politician, because I think I've managed to say a lot without answering you question!

My apologies to the moderators if this post has strayed too far off topic.

Cheers

Michael






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Re: Little Yarra

Michael J
 

----- Original Message -----
From: David Halfpenny [mailto:dh16mm@hotmail.com]


I'm not sure I've got your drift, Michael.

Is your emphasis on "minor" or "offence"?

ie are you for it?
or agin it?
That's a difficult question!

I model in On30, and I guess the more that is available, the more interests covered, the more people will model On30, and the more likely it is products I would like to see will be produced. So from a purely selfish point of view the more the better.

There is an argument that prototypes are best modelled with the correct scale gauge for that prototype, and I have some sympathy for that. On the other hand there are practical considerations, and On30 is, as you have observed, a practical scale/gauge. The practical arguments can run from the difficulty of hand-building turnouts, as would be required in On3 for instance, to by choosing On30 I can run my equipment on my mates layout, and visa versa. There is also the very practical argument for the manufacturer that by choosing On30 he stands some chance of selling enough models to make the enterprise worthwhile.

Since coming back into the hobby 5 or more years ago I have become somewhat fascinated with 2'6" gauge railways in particular. I have collected quite a lot of information on 2'6" gauge railways and their equipment. One thing I note is that with industrial locomotives and the lines they ran on, choice of gauge is often a whim of their owner. That is there is no reason the Powelltown line could not have been built in 2'6" gauge, and operate very similar equipment. The question would Baldwin have built Little Yarra with outside frames for this gauge is an interesting one. Probably, but there is enough leeway there to give any modeller the benefit of the doubt. One interesting scenario for a freelance modeller would be to imagine the Warburton line was built to 2'6" gauge as planned, and the Powelltown interchanged with it.

I am a freelance modeller, but I hope that my scenario retains a high degree of plausibility. I probably won't buy a Little Yarra model, because it is too small and too modern for my scenario. And because I am modelling a 2'6" gauge railway (even if fictitious) I think I would also be worried about the frames issue as well.

I better become a politician, because I think I've managed to say a lot without answering you question!

My apologies to the moderators if this post has strayed too far off topic.

Cheers

Michael


Re: Perry Locomotives

Ron & Hilary Martin <ronhil@...>
 

Mike and Bruce,

Many thanks for your excellent answers to my query.

Ron


Re: Little Yarra

David Halfpenny <dh16mm@...>
 

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From: <thirtyinchfan@pearcedale.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 11:36 PM

I think an On30 "Little Yarra" is a minor offence against the laws of nature.
I'm not sure I've got your drift, Michael.

Is your emphasis on "minor" or "offence"?

ie are you for it?
or agin it?

David 1/2d


Re: Little Yarra

Michael J
 

I think an On30 "Little Yarra" is a minor offence against the laws of nature. "Little Yarra" was quite a small loco and Baldwin certainly constructed inside framed locos of around this size for 2'6" gauge, although admittedly most that come to my mind were built a few decades before "Little Yarra".

Reality is that an On30 model is most commercially viable, as this is by far the most popular scale/gauge combination for Aussie narrow gauge modelers. However a benelvent manufacturer would design his product to allow correct 3/4" gauge wheelsets if desired by the modeler.

Anyway, I would be fascinated to see photos of 6-14-C class locos in 2'6" guage if they ever do come to light.

Cheers

Michael

----- Original Message -----
From: David Halfpenny [mailto:dh16mm@hotmail.com]
Sent: 27/05/2008 6:50:09 PM
To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: Re: [LRRSA] Re: Little Yarra



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From: "Frank Stamford" <frank.stamford@bigpond.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 4:58 AM
To: <LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au>
Subject: [LRRSA] Re: Little Yarra

Hello David,

Yes Brian is aware of the articles and drawings in the April "Narrow
Gauge Downunder" and "Light Railways". He actually approached us for
information in January, and he probably wrote to "Narrow Gauge and
Short Lines Gazette" at the same time.

Changing "Little Yarra" to 2 ft 6 in gauge is quite a radical
divergence from the prototype I think. Baldwin would probably have
used outside frames for 2 ft 6in gauge, though my efforts to find
photographs of any of the three 2 ft 6 in gauge 6-14-C class locos
have so far proved fruitless.
Thanks, Frank, that's what I guessed on all fronts.

I think On30 is a hard disease to cure, simply because it is so expedient -
easy track, easy scenics, and with outside framed gear and wide treads,
nobody notices that the flanges are pushed in a whisker too far.

I'm feeling queasy about an On30 Little Yarra, but then it's not my scale.

Brian in his Gazette letter mentions "the Australian market" which implies
big ideas. It will be interesting to see how Australians vote with their
wallets.

David 1/2d



Re: CARNARVON JETTY

tipong3 <mikejackson6@...>
 

David -

Thanks for the confirmation of the identity of KIA ORA at Carnarvon,
glad that the photo was of interest.

I have put a Wyndham view in the same folder, this time from one of
my own slides, taken on 12/10/71 from aboard a tanker whilst docking
at the meatworks jetty.

Sadly this is the only slide I took, I was not a railfan at the
time !

Cheers

Mike J.




--- In LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au, "David Whiteford"
<david.whiteford@...> wrote:

Hello all.
Thanks for that, Mike. It is a lovely image. Yes, "Kia Ora" is
preserved with Rail Heritage WA at their Bassendean railway museum
(formerly known as the Australian Railway Historical Society WA
Division). There are other photos of "Kia Ora" in use in Carnarvon
but I am not aware of that one.
Captain Alfred George Course wrote (and had published) a number of
maritime histories in the 1950s and 1960s, State Library of Western
Australia having 6 of his works. But we don't have his own journeys
in book form.
Regards
David Whiteford

________________________________

From: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au [mailto:LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au] On
Behalf Of tipong3
Sent: Tuesday, 27 May 2008 2:20 AM
To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: [LRRSA] CARNARVON JETTY



Greetings from the U.K.

I was reading the June 1955 issue of the long defunct
magazine 'Ships &
Ship Models' & came across an article 'South from Singapore' by
Capt.
A.G.Course.
Accompanying the article was a photo of a train on Carnarvon jetty.

As the article was in a non-railway magazine I was wondering
whether
the photo was 'new' to group members, given the interest in jetty
tramways.

I have posted a scan in the photo section under "Mike's Stuff"
The quality is not good as it was a small coarsely printed photo.

Unfortunately the article was part of a series & there is no
information as to the date or the name of Capt.Course's ship, but I
guess that the photo, which I guess was taken by the author, is
dated
in the 40s or 50s.

Presumably the loco is KIA ORA, BLW 7111/84 which I understand is
preserved near Perth.

I'd be very interested in group members' comments.

Cheers

Mike J.








Re: Early 3 ft 6 in gauge railways

John Browning
 

What a fantastic resource!



I wonder what progress has been made in making Australian newspapers
available?



John



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Brisbane
Queensland
Australia



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Mobile 0407 069 199


Forney locomotives in Oz

John Peterson
 

Hello all,

A recent trip to Japan brought back a copy of a book on the Kiso
Railway which was an extensive user of Forney locomotives in its
early years.

The basic concept is a 0-4-2 or 0-4-4 with a rear tank. Idea being
that the locomotive is built to the maximum limit of the axle load
over the drive wheels and the variable weight of water and fuel
carried on the trailing axle/s. In a sugar mill context it means
that it does not suffer from a reduction of tractive effort when
returning with a load to the mill. This was the reason for the
changing from tank to tender locos in fiji. In theory at least they
might be superior to the typical 0-4-2T used at that time?

The Fairymead mill was the only taker here and they persisted with
the type so must have found them successful. Why didn't they catch
on more??

Cheers
John


Re: Little Yarra

David Halfpenny <dh16mm@...>
 

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From: "Frank Stamford" <frank.stamford@bigpond.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 4:58 AM
To: <LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au>
Subject: [LRRSA] Re: Little Yarra

Hello David,

Yes Brian is aware of the articles and drawings in the April "Narrow
Gauge Downunder" and "Light Railways". He actually approached us for
information in January, and he probably wrote to "Narrow Gauge and
Short Lines Gazette" at the same time.

Changing "Little Yarra" to 2 ft 6 in gauge is quite a radical
divergence from the prototype I think. Baldwin would probably have
used outside frames for 2 ft 6in gauge, though my efforts to find
photographs of any of the three 2 ft 6 in gauge 6-14-C class locos
have so far proved fruitless.
Thanks, Frank, that's what I guessed on all fronts.

I think On30 is a hard disease to cure, simply because it is so expedient - easy track, easy scenics, and with outside framed gear and wide treads, nobody notices that the flanges are pushed in a whisker too far.

I'm feeling queasy about an On30 Little Yarra, but then it's not my scale.

Brian in his Gazette letter mentions "the Australian market" which implies big ideas. It will be interesting to see how Australians vote with their wallets.

David 1/2d


Early 3 ft 6 in gauge railways

Frank Stamford
 

If you have an interest in the early development
of 3 ft 6 in gauge then the following site is worth a look:



<http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/imageserver/imageserver.pl?oid=DSC18671111.1.4&ext=pdf&title=Daily%20Southern%20Cross%20-%2011%20November%201867>http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/imageserver/imageserver.pl?oid=DSC18671111.1.4&ext=pdf&title=Daily%20Southern%20Cross%20-%2011%20November%201867




It is a page from the New Zealand newspaper “The
Daily Southern Cross” of 11 November 1867. Look
for the articles titled “Norwegian Light
Railways” and “Cheap Railways”. The first article
is actually a report by the civil engineer
Charles Douglas Fox, and the date of the report
is 24 August 1864 – so it was over three years
old when it was published in the NZ newspaper.

In 1864 the first railway in Queensland was under
construction, and the Fox firm was heavily
involved in that project. The article includes
many references to Queensland, and gives some
clues why Queensland did not adopt the centre-buffer coupling.

I acknowledge Phil Rickard for brining this
fascinating document to my attention.



Frank


Re: Little Yarra

Frank Stamford
 

Hello David,

Yes Brian is aware of the articles and drawings in the April "Narrow
Gauge Downunder" and "Light Railways". He actually approached us for
information in January, and he probably wrote to "Narrow Gauge and
Short Lines Gazette" at the same time.

Changing "Little Yarra" to 2 ft 6 in gauge is quite a radical
divergence from the prototype I think. Baldwin would probably have
used outside frames for 2 ft 6in gauge, though my efforts to find
photographs of any of the three 2 ft 6 in gauge 6-14-C class locos
have so far proved fruitless.

Regards,

Frank




--- In LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au, "David Halfpenny" <dh16mm@...> wrote:

I notice that there's a guy asking in NGSLG V34/2 for plans of
Little Yarra
so he can make an On30 commercial model to go with the Baldwin NA
that his
company already does.

Can I assume somebody has already fielded this one?

He's "Brain Chester" (sic - probably Brian)
Manager, Broad Gauge Models,
bgm@...

David 1/2d


Re: CARNARVON JETTY

David Whiteford <david.whiteford@...>
 

Hello all.
Thanks for that, Mike. It is a lovely image. Yes, "Kia Ora" is preserved with Rail Heritage WA at their Bassendean railway museum (formerly known as the Australian Railway Historical Society WA Division). There are other photos of "Kia Ora" in use in Carnarvon but I am not aware of that one.
Captain Alfred George Course wrote (and had published) a number of maritime histories in the 1950s and 1960s, State Library of Western Australia having 6 of his works. But we don't have his own journeys in book form.
Regards
David Whiteford

________________________________

From: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au [mailto:LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au] On Behalf Of tipong3
Sent: Tuesday, 27 May 2008 2:20 AM
To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: [LRRSA] CARNARVON JETTY



Greetings from the U.K.

I was reading the June 1955 issue of the long defunct magazine 'Ships &
Ship Models' & came across an article 'South from Singapore' by Capt.
A.G.Course.
Accompanying the article was a photo of a train on Carnarvon jetty.

As the article was in a non-railway magazine I was wondering whether
the photo was 'new' to group members, given the interest in jetty
tramways.

I have posted a scan in the photo section under "Mike's Stuff"
The quality is not good as it was a small coarsely printed photo.

Unfortunately the article was part of a series & there is no
information as to the date or the name of Capt.Course's ship, but I
guess that the photo, which I guess was taken by the author, is dated
in the 40s or 50s.

Presumably the loco is KIA ORA, BLW 7111/84 which I understand is
preserved near Perth.

I'd be very interested in group members' comments.

Cheers

Mike J.


CARNARVON JETTY

tipong3 <mikejackson6@...>
 

Greetings from the U.K.

I was reading the June 1955 issue of the long defunct magazine 'Ships &
Ship Models' & came across an article 'South from Singapore' by Capt.
A.G.Course.
Accompanying the article was a photo of a train on Carnarvon jetty.

As the article was in a non-railway magazine I was wondering whether
the photo was 'new' to group members, given the interest in jetty
tramways.

I have posted a scan in the photo section under "Mike's Stuff"
The quality is not good as it was a small coarsely printed photo.

Unfortunately the article was part of a series & there is no
information as to the date or the name of Capt.Course's ship, but I
guess that the photo, which I guess was taken by the author, is dated
in the 40s or 50s.

Presumably the loco is KIA ORA, BLW 7111/84 which I understand is
preserved near Perth.

I'd be very interested in group members' comments.

Cheers

Mike J.


Re: Perry Locomotives

Bruce & Gaye Belbin <boxcargraphics@...>
 

Hi Ron,

The Bennett Brook Perry (8967/39/1 of 1939) was not one of the 'standard'
Perry 0-4-2T cane locos. It was a 'one-off' machine built for Inkerman Mill,
to the same overall specifications as the three Hunslet 'BODRY' class locos
already operating there. (It differed from the Hunslets in a few respects,
such as the drumhead smokebox, and the use of Walschaerts valve gear).

The other five Perry 0-4-2T locos were a shortened version of the 0-6-2T
design and were essentially the same except for minor details, such as
drawgear, chimneys, etc - plus the side-tanks on the first (9737/45/1 of
1945) did not have the dress strip around the top, as fitted to the final
four (though I note that it does now, in preservation).

General Arrangement Drawings of the 'standard' 0-4-2T can be found in Light
Railways 141 and Light Railways 95.

Most of the drawings for the Perry locos survived into the 1990s, when the
Company (by then part of the Boral Group) donated them for preservation.
Bryan Homann at the Pichi Richi Railway has microfilm copies of these and,
at least until a few years ago, was happy to run out A3 prints of individual
drawings for a nominal charge. All the drawings for the 'standard' 0-4-2T
were still in existence in the late 1980s, so I would think that the
drawings of 8967/39/1 would also have survived. However, this loco was
extensively rebuilt at Bennett Brook, so the G/A drawing will definitely not
reflect its current appearance.

Regards
Bruce



From: "Ron & Hilary Martin" <ronhil@iinet.net.au>
Reply-To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 19:26:42 +1000 (Tasmania Standard Time)
To: <LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au>
Subject: [LRRSA] Perry Locomotives


I've had an enquiry from outside Australia regarding possible sources of
information regarding Perry 0-4-2 locos, particularly the Bennett Brook
example. Such items as spec sheets, GA drawings etc.

Any ideas please,

Ron


Re: Perry Locomotives

The Bickfords <womloc4@...>
 

Hi Ron,

Issue 141 of Light Railways has an article about the 0-4-2T Perry owned by the Belbins.
Now located at the Lake Macquarie Light Railway, see http://www.lmlr.org.au/
There is a reproduction of the makers drawing in issue 141, plus lots of photos.

Sets of scanned copies Perry Cane Loco Drawings on CD were once available from one of the museums in South Australia.
Unfortunately, the price was rather beyond my means and I don't think they are still available.
Maybe someone else knows otherwise.

Pity your enquirer likes the Bennett Brook example - I reckon they 'vandalised' it with that 'English' style cab.
Happily I do not know of any drawings of it in that condition.

cheers,
Mike Bickford
Berowra & Nalya Tramway
Sydney, Australia
www.ritginc.org

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron & Hilary Martin" <ronhil@iinet.net.au>
To: <LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au>
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 7:26 PM
Subject: [LRRSA] Perry Locomotives


I've had an enquiry from outside Australia regarding possible sources of
information regarding Perry 0-4-2 locos, particularly the Bennett Brook
example. Such items as spec sheets, GA drawings etc.

Any ideas please,

Ron


Perry Locomotives

Ron & Hilary Martin <ronhil@...>
 

I've had an enquiry from outside Australia regarding possible sources of
information regarding Perry 0-4-2 locos, particularly the Bennett Brook
example. Such items as spec sheets, GA drawings etc.

Any ideas please,

Ron


Re: Leisureland, Langwarrin

Michael J
 

Just came upon this. Leasureland certainly existed in Langwarrin, on the Westernport Highway. Melways ref 131 D10. The property was quite large, and old Melways showed a network of railway lines running round the park.

I always assumed it was the park where the 2'6" gauge locos from the gasworks ran, however I guess that was Whistlestop?

Never went to the park so no idea what steam trains operated there.

Michael

----- Original Message -----
From: Roderick B Smith [mailto:rodsmith@werple.net.au]
Sent: 20/05/2008 5:51:40 PM
To: LRRSA@yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: [LRRSA] Leisureland, Langwarrin

I was asked about this one, which could be a misreporting of
Whistlestop (Skye Rd, Frankston) or could be legitimate.
Wikipedia's two contributors quoted no sources.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leisureland_Fair
Leisureland Fair is a now defunct amusement park in Langwarrin,
Victoria, Australia which operated from approximately 1984 to 1992.
It is now a housing estate with the only reference to it being a
street named after it. The amusement park was situated on a large
plot of land with a steam train which would take passengers from the
carpark to the park itself.
The park consisted of a large number of attractions including a
custom built steel roller coaster, log flume, waterslides, mini golf,
a function centre and various other rides. The park was then sold on
to a religious group who developed the site into housing.
The only remaining part of Leisureland Fair is the now abandoned
Function Centre, otherwise known as The Castle. The property is now
under Private Ownership and was once the main terminus for the
amusement park, situated in the centre of the park.

What is known about the steam train there?

I have thanked Peter offlist for his useful response to my last
question.

Regards,
Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor




Little Yarra

David Halfpenny <dh16mm@...>
 

I notice that there's a guy asking in NGSLG V34/2 for plans of Little Yarra so he can make an On30 commercial model to go with the Baldwin NA that his company already does.

Can I assume somebody has already fielded this one?

He's "Brain Chester" (sic - probably Brian)
Manager, Broad Gauge Models,
bgm@webaxz.net

David 1/2d

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